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5th Mar '17 9:50:30 AM Sonofstranger
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* In ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth'', the Kingdom of [[{{Ruritania}} Cohdopia]] had, a few years prior, split into the Kingdom of Allebahst and the Republic of Babahl in a vicious civil war. While the exact points of contention of the war were never outright stated, one of them was about which nation owned the legitimate copy of a solid gold statue of their first king. Even Kay [[LampshadeHanging points out that it's a rather childish point of conflict]]. [[SheepInSheepsClothing Ambassador Palaeno]] agrees, but says the people of Babahl and Allebahst still consider it SeriousBusiness, and the conflict between the nations cannot be resolved before it's determined which nation owns the bona fide article.
27th Feb '17 4:45:49 PM StarTropes
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* The Franchise/StarTrekExpandedUniverse novel ''I, Q'' told of a war between the Q and another race of similarly omnipotent beings, the M. These two [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien impossibly advanced species]] both admitted the real reason for their cataclysmic conflict was "there's just something about you that just really pisses me off." The war itself is kicked off when one of them blurts out, "[[MinorInsultMeltdown Your mother!]]"; nobody now knows who said it or who it was directed at. Both sides also show near [[BreakingTheFourthWall fourth-wall breaking]] [[GenreSavvy Genre Savviness]]: they're both aware enough to realize that in their reality every race ''always'' manages to get balanced out by some other race which exists to be an opposing force and source of plot. If they made up with their obvious opposite numbers, it would inevitably lead to a serious threat to both of them showing up.

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* The Franchise/StarTrekExpandedUniverse novel ''I, Q'' ''Literature/{{IQ}}'' told of a war between the Q and another race of similarly omnipotent beings, the M. These two [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien impossibly advanced species]] both admitted the real reason for their cataclysmic conflict was "there's just something about you that just really pisses me off." The war itself is kicked off when one of them blurts out, "[[MinorInsultMeltdown Your mother!]]"; nobody now knows who said it or who it was directed at.at (and it's not like any of them even ''had'' a mother). Both sides also show near [[BreakingTheFourthWall fourth-wall breaking]] [[GenreSavvy Genre Savviness]]: they're both aware enough to realize that in their reality every race ''always'' manages to get balanced out by some other race which exists to be an opposing force and source of plot. If they made up with their obvious opposite numbers, it would inevitably lead to a serious threat to both of them showing up.
16th Feb '17 4:06:05 PM Audobonible
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* "[[http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~magi/personal/humour/Shaggy_Dog/On%20Holy%20Wars%20and%20a%20Plea%20for%20Peace.html On Holy Wars and a Plea for Peace]]" Is a famous essay by Danny Cohen on whether data should be transmitted from the most-significant bit to the least-significant bit or vice versa. It draws heavily on ''Gulliver's Travels'' down to the names for the sides: Big-Endian (most significant first) and Little-Endian (least significant first). To this day, those are the "official" names of those groups.

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* "[[http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~magi/personal/humour/Shaggy_Dog/On%20Holy%20Wars%20and%20a%20Plea%20for%20Peace.html "[[https://www.ietf.org/rfc/ien/ien137.txt On Holy Wars and a Plea for Peace]]" Is a famous essay by Danny Cohen on whether data should be transmitted from the most-significant bit to the least-significant bit or vice versa. It draws heavily on ''Gulliver's Travels'' down to the names for the sides: Big-Endian (most significant first) and Little-Endian (least significant first). To this day, those are the "official" names of those groups.
8th Feb '17 2:41:41 PM margdean56
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* In 1900, in what is now Ghana, a war broke out between the British and Ashanti Empires over a golden stool. To the Ashanti, the golden stool was an object of immense cultural and spiritual significance, representing the souls of all Ashanti, dead, living, and unborn. The British governor, Frederick Hodgson, was unaware of this, believing it was simply a throne and rather unfortunately demanded the Ashanti hand it over so that he could sit on it. The result: the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Golden_Stool War of the Golden Stool]]--3,000 deaths, the dissolution of the Ashanti Empire, and the British never found the stool. The Ashanti to this day consider it a win, since their objective has been fulfilled--no Brit sat on it.
** In fact, the Ashanti were happy, since they had already been defeated by the British in another war, for ''Queen Victoria'' to sit on the stool, seeing as she was ruler of the British Empire and someone they saw as an equal and victor. Hodgson? Not so much...

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* In 1900, in what is now Ghana, a war broke out between the British and Ashanti Empires over a golden stool. To the Ashanti, the golden stool was an object of immense cultural and spiritual significance, representing the souls of all Ashanti, dead, living, and unborn. The British governor, Frederick Hodgson, was unaware of this, believing it was simply a throne throne, and rather unfortunately demanded the Ashanti hand it over so that he could sit on it. The result: the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Golden_Stool War of the Golden Stool]]--3,000 deaths, the dissolution of the Ashanti Empire, and the British never found the stool. The Ashanti to this day consider it a win, since their objective has been fulfilled--no Brit sat on it.
** In fact, the Ashanti were would have been happy, since they had already been defeated by the British in another war, for ''Queen Victoria'' to sit on the stool, seeing as she was ruler of the British Empire and someone they saw as an equal and victor. Hodgson? Not so much...



* Originally, the pre-conquest Mesoamericans had a general agreement to not begin a war until a messenger had been sent to the enemy and announced the reason why war was being declared. This worked just fine for a time, but after the Aztecs and their [[HumanSacrifice desperate]] [[BeatStillMyheart need]] for war prisoners came to power, wars began to be declared so often that they soon ran out of good excuses, and the reasons became increasingly sillier. For example, in 1473 the Aztec emperor declared war on the king of Tlatelolco (who was his brother-in-law) because he didn't sleep with his wife [[SeriousBusiness often enough]] and that made her sad - the king was thrown off Tlatelolco's main temple and his state annexed to the Aztec Empire. It's safe to assume that everybody else eventually ran out of excuses too, because by the time the Spanish showed up, all the surviving states had agreed to have some limited wars with each other each few years, the "flowery wars", with no single purpose but to provide sacrifice victims to everybody.
** This came back to bite the Aztecs hard - their neighbors had long memories, and when the Spanish made it clear they were willing to beat down the Aztecs, everyone around them basically said, "You know what? We don't like them, either. Let's be friends!"

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* Originally, the pre-conquest Mesoamericans had a general agreement to not begin a war until a messenger had been sent to the enemy and announced the reason why war was being declared. This worked just fine for a time, but after the Aztecs and their [[HumanSacrifice desperate]] [[BeatStillMyheart need]] for war prisoners came to power, wars began to be declared so often that they soon ran out of good excuses, and the reasons became increasingly sillier. For example, in 1473 the Aztec emperor declared war on the king of Tlatelolco (who was his brother-in-law) because he didn't sleep with his wife [[SeriousBusiness often enough]] and that made her sad - -- the king was thrown off Tlatelolco's main temple and his state annexed to the Aztec Empire. It's safe to assume that everybody else eventually ran out of excuses too, because by the time the Spanish showed up, all the surviving states had agreed to have some limited wars with each other each few years, the "flowery wars", with no single purpose but to provide sacrifice victims to everybody.
** This came back to bite the Aztecs hard - -- their neighbors had long memories, and when the Spanish made it clear they were willing to beat down the Aztecs, everyone around them basically said, "You know what? We don't like them, either. Let's be friends!"



* The War of Jenkins' Ear (1739-1748): Britain was looking for an excuse to go to war with Spain, and someone eventually pointed out that ''eight years earlier'', Spanish coast guards had boarded a English ship, captained by the aforementioned Jenkins, and cut off his ear. Parliament was duly outraged and war was declared. (The war was eventually subsumed in the UsefulNotes/WarOfTheAustrianSuccession, an all-European conflict that began when Prussia invaded Austrian Silesia in 1740).

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* The War of Jenkins' Ear (1739-1748): Britain was looking for an excuse to go to war with Spain, and someone eventually pointed out that ''eight years earlier'', Spanish coast guards had boarded a an English ship, captained by the aforementioned Jenkins, and cut off his ear. Parliament was duly outraged and war was declared. (The war was eventually subsumed in the UsefulNotes/WarOfTheAustrianSuccession, an all-European conflict that began when Prussia invaded Austrian Silesia in 1740).



* In 1870, the throne of Spain was offered to a prince from a Catholic side-branch of the ruling house of Prussia. The French government vehemently objected, so the Prussian prince withdrew his candidacy. Then the French government demanded that Prussian king never allow such an offer to occur again. Prussia refused. [[UsefulNotes/FrancoPrussianWar The French declared war on Prussia (despite Prussia's bigger army), which led to all other German states to declare war on France.]] The Germans quickly defeated the French, taking Alsace-Lorraine. The festering dispute over Alsace-Lorraine helped cause both world wars.

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* In 1870, the throne of Spain was offered to a prince from a Catholic side-branch of the ruling house of Prussia. The French government vehemently objected, so the Prussian prince withdrew his candidacy. Then the French government demanded that Prussian king never allow such an offer to occur again. Prussia refused. [[UsefulNotes/FrancoPrussianWar The French declared war on Prussia (despite Prussia's bigger army), which led to all the other German states to declare war on France.]] The Germans quickly defeated the French, taking Alsace-Lorraine. The festering dispute over Alsace-Lorraine helped cause both world wars.



*** Speaking of Bismarck "Europe today is a powder keg and the leaders are like men smoking in an arsenal ... A single spark will set off an explosion that will consume us all ... I cannot tell you when that explosion will occur, but I can tell you where ... [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI Some damned silly thing in the Balkans will set it off]]".

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*** Speaking of Bismarck - "Europe today is a powder keg and the leaders are like men smoking in an arsenal ... A single spark will set off an explosion that will consume us all ... I cannot tell you when that explosion will occur, but I can tell you where ... [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI Some damned silly thing in the Balkans will set it off]]".



* Although it has not escalated to military conflict, Egypt and Sudan have a long-standing border dispute over an area called Bir Tawil - specifically, they each allege that the OTHER party owns it. The reason for the dispute is that each nation claims a different historical border to be the correct boundary between their nations (each of them favouring a border that includes a much more valuable piece of land within their nation), and both of their preferred borders exclude Bir Tawil from their nation. Thus, even if the other side doesn't want it, one side can't simply claim that territory as their own since it would be implicitly giving up the territory they actually want.
* [[http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/opinionator/2012/02/28/the-first-google-maps-war/?referer= The Google Maps War]], fought in 2010 between Nicaragua and Costa Rica. After Google Maps erroneously portrayed Costa Rica' s border with Nicaragua south of the accepted line, they sent 50 soldiers to the Isla Portillos in Costa Rica, justifying it by saying that, according to Google Maps, it was a part of Nicaragua. Costa Rica responded by sending 70 police officers to the island (as they do not have a real military). It ended with Google Maps correcting the error, and the UN ruling that technically, Nicaragua invaded Costa Rica.

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* Although it has not escalated to military conflict, Egypt and Sudan have a long-standing border dispute over an area called Bir Tawil - -- specifically, they each allege that the OTHER party owns it. The reason for the dispute is that each nation claims a different historical border to be the correct boundary between their nations (each of them favouring a border that includes a much more valuable piece of land within their nation), and both of their preferred borders exclude Bir Tawil from their nation. Thus, even if the other side doesn't want it, one side can't simply claim that territory as their own since it would be implicitly giving up the territory they actually want.
* [[http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/opinionator/2012/02/28/the-first-google-maps-war/?referer= The Google Maps War]], fought in 2010 between Nicaragua and Costa Rica. After Google Maps erroneously portrayed Costa Rica' s Rica's border with Nicaragua south of the accepted line, they sent 50 soldiers to the Isla Portillos in Costa Rica, justifying it by saying that, according to Google Maps, it was a part of Nicaragua. Costa Rica responded by sending 70 police officers to the island (as they do not have a real military). It ended with Google Maps correcting the error, and the UN ruling that technically, Nicaragua invaded Costa Rica.
13th Jan '17 10:44:19 PM marcoasalazarm
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* In ''Fanfic/TheUniversiad'' the Originals once fought a civil war over a paper shortage.

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* In ''Fanfic/TheUniversiad'' the Originals once fought a civil war over a paper shortage. Justified because ''paper'' was the only non-renewable resource they had on their growing post-scarcity, immortal community at the time.
19th Dec '16 3:55:01 AM Dingbot
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* Played for absurdly dark laughs (if not flat-out chillingly straight) with the TropeNamer GeneralRipper in ''Film/DrStrangelove'': his reason to send bombers into Russian airspace with orders to nuke everything that moves is because, essentially, he's blaming them for his sexual hangups.[note]Specifically, he assumed the feeling of post-orgasm lassitude was a plot by Communists to sap--or at least defile--Americans' vital bodily fluids.[/note]

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* Played for absurdly dark laughs (if not flat-out chillingly straight) with the TropeNamer GeneralRipper in ''Film/DrStrangelove'': his reason to send bombers into Russian airspace with orders to nuke everything that moves is because, essentially, he's blaming them for his sexual hangups.[note]Specifically, [[note]]Specifically, he assumed the feeling of post-orgasm lassitude was a plot by Communists to sap--or at least defile--Americans' vital bodily fluids.[/note][[/note]]
19th Dec '16 3:52:58 AM Dingbot
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* Played for absurdly dark laughs (if not flat-out chillingly straight) with the TropeNamer GeneralRipper in ''Film/DrStrangelove'': his reason to send bombers into Russian airspace with orders to nuke everything that moves is because, essentially, he's blaming them for ''his sexual impotence''.

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* Played for absurdly dark laughs (if not flat-out chillingly straight) with the TropeNamer GeneralRipper in ''Film/DrStrangelove'': his reason to send bombers into Russian airspace with orders to nuke everything that moves is because, essentially, he's blaming them for ''his his sexual impotence''.hangups.[note]Specifically, he assumed the feeling of post-orgasm lassitude was a plot by Communists to sap--or at least defile--Americans' vital bodily fluids.[/note]
18th Dec '16 11:14:14 PM Doug86
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The protagonists encounter two (or more) groups who are in a [[SeriousBusiness deadly serious]] conflict over what the protagonists (and likely the audience) perceive to be a trivial and petty difference or issue. Like [[GulliversTravels which end of the egg to crack first]], [[Creator/DrSeuss or whether toast should be eaten butter side up or down]], or even body features such as which [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries half of their face is black and which is white]].

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The protagonists encounter two (or more) groups who are in a [[SeriousBusiness deadly serious]] conflict over what the protagonists (and likely the audience) perceive to be a trivial and petty difference or issue. Like [[GulliversTravels [[Literature/GulliversTravels which end of the egg to crack first]], [[Creator/DrSeuss or whether toast should be eaten butter side up or down]], or even body features such as which [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries half of their face is black and which is white]].
14th Dec '16 12:12:03 AM PaulA
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* ''Literature/{{Elenium}}'':

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** In ''The Shining Ones'' it is revealed that a man angry his betrothed was [[HeterosexualLifePartners paying more attention to her sister than to him]] is the true origin of centuries of warfare and machinations in both the Eosian kingdoms and the Tamul Empire.

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** In ''The Shining Ones'' ''Literature/TheShiningOnes'' it is revealed that a man angry his betrothed was [[HeterosexualLifePartners paying more attention to her sister than to him]] is the true origin of centuries of warfare and machinations in both the Eosian kingdoms and the Tamul Empire.
11th Dec '16 1:53:31 AM ABE.Crudele
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* In most of the series in the ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', the only thing silly about the conflicts seems to be how [[SeriousBusiness the card game is used to dispute it.]] The reason for the conflict itself is anything but silly. (In ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds'' a WellIntentionedExtremist is trying to prevent a BadFuture, threatening the lives of millions in the process; ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'' is an OrderVersusChaos clash with both sides focused on genocide.) However, in ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', the card game ''itself'' is the focus of the conflict, where an inter-dimensional war has been started over ''which Special Summoning technique is superior.'' [[spoiler: However, it was revealed to be a ploy created by the Professor to gather as many captured souls and use them to fuse the four dimension into a new dimension one.]]

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* In most of the series in the ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', the only thing silly about the conflicts seems to be how [[SeriousBusiness the card game is used to dispute it.]] The reason for the conflict itself is anything but silly. (In ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds'' a WellIntentionedExtremist is trying to prevent a BadFuture, threatening the lives of millions in the process; ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'' is an OrderVersusChaos clash with both sides focused on genocide.) However, in ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'', the card game ''itself'' is the focus of the conflict, where an inter-dimensional war has been started over ''which Special Summoning technique is superior.'' [[spoiler: However, it was revealed to be a ploy created by the Professor to gather as many captured souls and use them to fuse the four dimension into a new dimension one.dimensions.]]



* The Franchise/StarTrekExpandedUniverse novel ''I, Q'' told of a war between the Q and another race of similarly omnipotent beings, the M. These two [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien impossibly advanced species]] both admitted the real reason for their catyclysmic conflict was "there's just something about you that just really pisses me off." The war itself is kicked off when one of them blurts out, "[[MinorInsultMeltdown Your mother!]]"; nobody now knows who said it or who it was directed at. Both sides also show near [[BreakingTheFourthWall fourth-wall breaking]] [[GenreSavvy Genre Savviness]]: they're both aware enough to realize that in their reality every race ''always'' manages to get balanced out by some other race which exists to be an opposing force and source of plot. If they made up with their obvious opposite numbers, it would inevitably lead to a serious threat to both of them showing up.

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* The Franchise/StarTrekExpandedUniverse novel ''I, Q'' told of a war between the Q and another race of similarly omnipotent beings, the M. These two [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien impossibly advanced species]] both admitted the real reason for their catyclysmic cataclysmic conflict was "there's just something about you that just really pisses me off." The war itself is kicked off when one of them blurts out, "[[MinorInsultMeltdown Your mother!]]"; nobody now knows who said it or who it was directed at. Both sides also show near [[BreakingTheFourthWall fourth-wall breaking]] [[GenreSavvy Genre Savviness]]: they're both aware enough to realize that in their reality every race ''always'' manages to get balanced out by some other race which exists to be an opposing force and source of plot. If they made up with their obvious opposite numbers, it would inevitably lead to a serious threat to both of them showing up.



** The game encourages this when players need to justify why the Ultramarines and Salamanders, two undisputably good SpaceMarine chapters in a setting filled with BlackAndGrayMorality, are fighting each other. Obviously they were sent to retrieve a holy relic independently of each other or something like that, now roll to see who goes first.

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** The game encourages this when players need to justify why the Ultramarines and Salamanders, two undisputably indisputably good SpaceMarine chapters in a setting filled with BlackAndGrayMorality, are fighting each other. Obviously they were sent to retrieve a holy relic independently of each other or something like that, now roll to see who goes first.



** Then there's the rivalry between Springfield and Shelbyville, which can turn violent at times. (In one episode, as Lisa explains, Springfield built a mini-mall that was purposely larger than a mini-mall Shelbyville built. Then, after Shelbyville made the world's largest pizza, Springfield burned down their city hall. Then Shelbyville spiked Springfield's water supply to get even. And on, and on, and on.) Supposedly, the founders of the two towns, Jebediah Springfield and Shelbyville Manhattan were once friends and partners, but broke into two factions simply because the former objected to the latters' desire to allow citizens to marry their cousins.

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** Then there's the rivalry between Springfield and Shelbyville, which can turn violent at times. (In one episode, as Lisa explains, Springfield built a mini-mall that was purposely larger than a mini-mall Shelbyville built. Then, after Shelbyville made the world's largest pizza, Springfield burned down their city hall. Then Shelbyville spiked Springfield's water supply to get even. And on, and on, and on.) Supposedly, the founders of the two towns, Jebediah Springfield and Shelbyville Manhattan were once friends and partners, but broke into two factions simply because the former objected to the latters' latter's desire to allow citizens to marry their cousins.



* In 1325, Italy was still divided into city-states. A regiment of solders from the city-state of Modena invaded Bologna to steal a brown, oak bucket. During the raid, several ''hundred'' Bolognese citizens were killed by the Modenese troops. The ensuing war lasted 12 years. Modena won, and still has the bucket. It's still on display in Modena's cathedral tower, the "Ghirlandina". Here's [[https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/176/465245775_cf388f5fc9_z.jpg a photo.]]

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* In 1325, Italy was still divided into city-states. A regiment of solders soldiers from the city-state of Modena invaded Bologna to steal a brown, oak bucket. During the raid, several ''hundred'' Bolognese citizens were killed by the Modenese troops. The ensuing war lasted 12 years. Modena won, and still has the bucket. It's still on display in Modena's cathedral tower, the "Ghirlandina". Here's [[https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/176/465245775_cf388f5fc9_z.jpg a photo.]]



* [[http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/opinionator/2012/02/28/the-first-google-maps-war/?referer= The Google Maps War]], fought in 2010 between Nicaragua and Costa Rica. After Google Maps erreneously portrayed Costa Rica' s border with Nicaragua south of the accepted line, they sent 50 soldiers to the Isla Portillos in Costa Rica, justifying it by saying that, according to Google Maps, it was a part of Nicaragua. Costa Rica responded by sending 70 police officers to the island (as they do not have a real military). It ended with Google Maps correcting the error, and the UN ruling that technically, Nicaragua invaded Costa Rica.

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* [[http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/opinionator/2012/02/28/the-first-google-maps-war/?referer= The Google Maps War]], fought in 2010 between Nicaragua and Costa Rica. After Google Maps erreneously erroneously portrayed Costa Rica' s border with Nicaragua south of the accepted line, they sent 50 soldiers to the Isla Portillos in Costa Rica, justifying it by saying that, according to Google Maps, it was a part of Nicaragua. Costa Rica responded by sending 70 police officers to the island (as they do not have a real military). It ended with Google Maps correcting the error, and the UN ruling that technically, Nicaragua invaded Costa Rica.
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