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31st Mar '18 3:08:34 PM Scorntex
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* ''VideoGame/DigimonWorldNextOrder:''
** The Ohguino Wastelands are divided between two factions: Meat-lovers and vegetarians, in an all-out war.
** A post-game quest deals with the various Scum Digimon (Numemom and Sukamon) declaring war on ''toilets''. Pretty much every other character is baffled by the sheer passion they have about this.
30th Mar '18 1:42:42 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' starts with a dispute over tariffs that make the Trade Federation upset enough to blockade Naboo as a means of protest. It could possibly have been resolved peacefully had Darth Sideous not been a TreacherousAdvisor to them who convinced them to take their grievance much further into unethical and immoral actions, which eventually triggered the Clone Wars, Order 66,and Palpatine's rise to power.

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* ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' starts with a dispute over tariffs that make the Trade Federation upset enough to blockade Naboo as a means of protest. It could possibly have been resolved peacefully (the blockade itself is perfectly legal) had Darth Sideous not been a TreacherousAdvisor to them who convinced them to take their grievance much further into unethical and immoral actions, which eventually triggered the Clone Wars, Order 66,and Palpatine's rise to power.
19th Mar '18 1:57:25 PM fighwitt
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* Parodied in ''Fanfic/XMenTheEarlyYears''. In one chapter Warren implies that men start wars because of women. Later Scott concludes Warren's wrong, and men start wars to get the Hell away from women.
3rd Mar '18 1:23:42 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* The East Coast/West Coast HipHop feud, fought in the United States over regional variants of rap music. Music/TheNotoriousBIG (representing the East Coast) and Music/TupacShakur (representing the West Coast) were both assassinated during this conflict.

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* The East Coast/West Coast HipHop feud, fought in the United States UsefulNotes/TheUnitedStates over regional variants of rap music. Music/TheNotoriousBIG (representing the East Coast) and Music/TupacShakur (representing the West Coast) were both got assassinated during this conflict.
23rd Feb '18 9:27:49 AM JoltNinja
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Most early instances of FantasticRacism were based on [[SillyReasonForWar groups at odds over superficial matters]] but if the groups have real and important differences, it can fall into a FantasticAesop that trivializes their conflict just because it's analogous to some real-world group of humans that are at odds for some mundane reason.

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Most early instances of FantasticRacism were based on [[SillyReasonForWar groups at odds over superficial matters]] matters but if the groups have real and important differences, it can fall into a FantasticAesop that trivializes their conflict just because it's analogous to some real-world group of humans that are at odds for some mundane reason.
7th Feb '18 5:01:40 PM MasterN
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This trope is often paired with AnAesop about how what we consider life-and-death, irreconcilable differences may be based on cultural norms and would seem just as petty from an outsider's perspective, and maybe we should reconsider our intolerance. If the writer wants to be extra {{Anvilicious}} about the message, expect the alien group to counter any perplexed queries about why they're willing to segregate, oppress, ostracise, or even kill each other over something so asinine with a retort like ''"humans kill each other over less"''. Like what pigment their skin has, whose parents they were born from, which phrases they pray with, politics, and gender. And the aliens killing each other over what color hat they wear are ''far'' above that kind of petty bickering. The fact that they're comparing what select groups of humans do (or [[ValuesDissonance did waaay back in human history]]) to [[PlanetOfHats their entire species]] being willing to kill each other over this stuff won't really be addressed.

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This trope is often paired with AnAesop about how what we consider life-and-death, irreconcilable differences may be based on cultural norms and would seem just as petty from an outsider's perspective, and maybe we should reconsider our intolerance. If the writer wants to be extra {{Anvilicious}} about the message, expect the alien group to counter any perplexed queries about why they're willing to segregate, oppress, ostracise, or even kill each other over something so asinine with a retort like ''"humans kill each other over less"''. Like what pigment their skin has, whose parents they were born from, which phrases they pray with, politics, what political party they support, and gender.what gender they were born with. And the aliens killing each other over what color hat they wear are ''far'' above that kind of petty bickering. The fact that they're comparing what select groups of humans do (or [[ValuesDissonance did waaay back in human history]]) to [[PlanetOfHats their entire species]] being willing to kill each other over this stuff won't really be addressed.
10th Jan '18 1:44:36 PM bitemytail
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* In 1870, the throne of Spain was offered to a prince from a Catholic side-branch of the ruling house of Prussia. The French government vehemently objected, so the Prussian prince withdrew his candidacy. Then the French government demanded that Prussian king never allow such an offer to occur again. Prussia refused. [[UsefulNotes/FrancoPrussianWar The French declared war on Prussia (despite Prussia's bigger army), which led all the other German states to declare war on France.]] The Germans quickly defeated the French, taking Alsace-Lorraine. The festering dispute over Alsace-Lorraine helped cause both world wars.
::Both the Prussian king and the French emperor Napoleon III (nephew of the first) realized it was a really silly pretext for war and were slowly backing down, but Bismarck, who wanted a war to kickstart the German unification, published part of their messages, enflaming German public opinion over the perceived harsh language (thanks to Bismarck's cautious editing of what got published). That in turn enflamed ''French'' public opinion because they thought it was a perfectly legitimate request (even though France had had no problems prevailing when the Habsburgs had ruled over Germany and Spain at the same time), who forced the government to declare war. Napoleon III is recalled complaining about this a few days before he had to sign the declaration.

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* In 1870, the throne of Spain was offered to a prince from a Catholic side-branch of the ruling house of Prussia. The French government vehemently objected, so the Prussian prince withdrew his candidacy. Then the French government demanded that Prussian king never allow such an offer to occur again. Prussia refused. [[UsefulNotes/FrancoPrussianWar The French declared war on Prussia (despite Prussia's bigger army), which led all the other German states to declare war on France.]] The Germans quickly defeated the French, taking Alsace-Lorraine. The festering dispute over Alsace-Lorraine helped cause both world wars.
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wars. Both the Prussian king and the French emperor Napoleon III (nephew of the first) realized it was a really silly pretext for war and were slowly backing down, but Bismarck, who wanted a war to kickstart the German unification, published part of their messages, enflaming German public opinion over the perceived harsh language (thanks to Bismarck's cautious editing of what got published). That in turn enflamed ''French'' public opinion because they thought it was a perfectly legitimate request (even though France had had no problems prevailing when the Habsburgs had ruled over Germany and Spain at the same time), who forced the government to declare war. Napoleon III is recalled complaining about this a few days before he had to sign the declaration.
10th Jan '18 8:36:17 AM Chabal2
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* In the Literature/{{Animorphs}} book The Ellimist Chronicles a race called the Capasin receives a trasmission from another race (the Ketrans) about a videogame they had made that's about creating new species of creatures and making them fight. The problem? Capasins don't have videogames and thus think the Ketrans are really creating creatures and making them fight. [[PoorCommunicationKills So the Capasins decide to wipe out the Ketrans.]]

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* In the Literature/{{Animorphs}} book The Ellimist Chronicles a race called the Capasin receives a trasmission transmission from another race (the Ketrans) about a videogame they had made that's about creating new species of creatures and making them fight. The problem? Capasins don't have videogames and thus think the Ketrans are really creating creatures and making them fight. [[PoorCommunicationKills So the Capasins decide to wipe out the Ketrans.]]



** To make it even worse, one version of Greek Myth claims that the Trojan War was the first war among men, and that it was caused originally by the [[JudgementOfParis vanity of three goddesses]], which, in turn, was started by Eris, who was angry for not being invited to a party. In short, going by this story, the long, bloody conflict was started out of spite and jealousy.

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** To make it even worse, one version of Greek Myth claims that the Trojan War was the first war among men, and that it was caused originally by the [[JudgementOfParis vanity of three goddesses]], goddesses]] (the winning goddess awarding Helen to Paris as a reward, neglecting to check whether or not Helen was married or even aware of the deal), which, in turn, was started by Eris, who was angry for not being invited to a party. In short, going by this story, the long, bloody conflict was started out of spite and jealousy.



** At least Dark Crusade took some effort to justify the confrontation. Relics that could prove Blood Ravens are descended from a Traitor Legion have been found, while Alexandr could have been influenced by a daemon bound to Titan's cannon in his base. Soulstorm was worse. The plot sums up to Sisters (backed up by Inquisition) being self righteous zealots with no common or military sense whatsoever and Boreale being a complete idiot.
** In other bits of background fluff, this is why the Imperial Guard tries (unsuccessfully) to adopt a standardized uniform across the countless regiments raised from across the galaxy - there have been occasions when two loyalist forces ended up fighting because they looked so different, each assumed the other was the enemy.

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** At least Dark Crusade took some effort to justify the confrontation. Relics that could prove Blood Ravens are descended from a Traitor Legion have been found, while Alexandr could have been influenced by a daemon bound to Titan's cannon in his base. Soulstorm was worse. worse: The plot sums up to Sisters (backed up by Inquisition) being self righteous zealots with no common or military sense whatsoever and Boreale being a complete idiot.
** In other bits of background fluff, this is why the Imperial Guard tries (unsuccessfully) to adopt a standardized uniform across the countless regiments raised from across the galaxy - there have been occasions when two loyalist forces ended up fighting because they looked so different, each assumed the other was the enemy.enemy (the "standard" green uniform is originally Cadian, with most regiments following their example).
6th Jan '18 6:06:23 PM TheCuza
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* In a two-part episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' Cartman freezes himself and wakes up 1000 years in the future where [[OutgrownSuchSillySupersitions religion no longer exists and everyone is an atheist]]. They self-righteously speak of how silly and ridiculous it was for the people of the past to wage war over religion. However, the entire world has become a war-torn wasteland because there are currently three atheist factions locked in an everlasting MeleeATrois over ''[[spoiler:what name to call the atheist society]]''. The {{Aesop}} of the episode is that atheists are just as susceptible to stupidity as everyone else.

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* In a two-part episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' Cartman freezes himself and wakes up 1000 years in the future where [[OutgrownSuchSillySupersitions [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions religion no longer exists and everyone is an atheist]]. They self-righteously speak of how silly and ridiculous it was for the people of the past to wage war over religion. However, the entire world has become a war-torn wasteland because there are currently three atheist factions locked in an everlasting MeleeATrois over ''[[spoiler:what name to call the atheist society]]''. The {{Aesop}} of the episode is that atheists are just as susceptible to stupidity as everyone else.
6th Jan '18 6:05:41 PM TheCuza
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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' set 1000 years in the future shows a huge war between three atheist factions (who each speak of how silly it was for people to fight for religious reasons in the past). By the end, it's revealed that the war was over [[spoiler:what name to call the atheist society]].
** Plus the otters [[spoiler: felt that eating off of tables was stupid when you had nice furry bellies.]]
** Once (thanks to meddling with the past) that war is resolved, the three former aethiest groups promptly ally to go to war with the "French-Chinese" over who owns Hawaii.

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* An In a two-part episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' set Cartman freezes himself and wakes up 1000 years in the future shows a huge where [[OutgrownSuchSillySupersitions religion no longer exists and everyone is an atheist]]. They self-righteously speak of how silly and ridiculous it was for the people of the past to wage war between over religion. However, the entire world has become a war-torn wasteland because there are currently three atheist factions (who each speak of how silly it was for people to fight for religious reasons locked in the past). By the end, it's revealed that the war was an everlasting MeleeATrois over [[spoiler:what ''[[spoiler:what name to call the atheist society]].
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society]]''. The {{Aesop}} of the otters [[spoiler: felt episode is that eating off of tables was stupid when you had nice furry bellies.]]
** Once (thanks
atheists are just as susceptible to meddling with the past) that war is resolved, the three former aethiest groups promptly ally to go to war with the "French-Chinese" over who owns Hawaii.stupidity as everyone else.
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