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25th Jun '16 12:16:39 PM JackG
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ShootTheTelevision and SpareAMessenger.
23rd Jun '16 6:49:28 PM nombretomado
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* ''Film/{{Clue}}'' the movie is all about this. [[TimCurry Wadsworth]] points out directly that "everyone who's died gave vital information about one of [the guests]." Ironically, the last informant who is killed is a delivering a singing telegram shot at the front door.

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* ''Film/{{Clue}}'' the movie is all about this. [[TimCurry [[Creator/TimCurry Wadsworth]] points out directly that "everyone who's died gave vital information about one of [the guests]." Ironically, the last informant who is killed is a delivering a singing telegram shot at the front door.
14th Jun '16 1:36:03 PM thatother1dude
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Margical History Tour", Homer plays a UsefulNotes/HenryVIII who demands so many decapitations the castle runs out of pikes to put the heads on. After one of his servants (Moe) informs him of this, despite knowing what the king usually does to the bearer of bad news, we cut to an empty pike storage room. The king admits he was right, and the captain's ''[[LosingYourHead detached, but still living head]]'' is consoled by such.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Margical History Tour", Homer plays a UsefulNotes/HenryVIII who demands so many decapitations the castle runs out of pikes to put the heads on. After one of his servants (Moe) informs him of this, despite knowing what the king usually does to the bearer of bad news, we cut to an empty pike storage room. The king admits he was right, and the captain's servant's ''[[LosingYourHead detached, but still living head]]'' is consoled by such.
27th May '16 4:46:45 AM Killerikala
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* The Hitman games do this from time to time.
** In certain missions, it's actually possible to knock out/kill messengers for their clothes.
** In VideoGame/HitmanBloodMoney 47 kills an innocent postal worker [[MurderTheHypotenuse as he is a potential witness.]]
** In VideoGame/Hitman2016 an unnamed antagonist shoots an unidentified businessman after he is given "the key".[[/folder]]

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* Prosecutors from the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series have a habit of punishing the salaries of police officers who bring them bad or unwanted news -- sometimes even just for bothering them at all when they're busy. Series ButtMonkey Detective Gumshoe has the loss of his ever dwindling salary and resulting PerpetualPoverty as a RunningGag.



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* Prosecutors from the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series have a habit of punishing the salaries of police officers who bring them bad or unwanted news -- sometimes even just for bothering them at all when they're busy. Series ButtMonkey Detective Gumshoe has the loss of his ever dwindling salary and resulting PerpetualPoverty as a RunningGag.
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20th May '16 12:33:33 AM Morgenthaler
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** And in Stirling's ''{{In The Courts of the Crimson Kings}}'' an OrganicTechnology InstantMessengerPigeon buries its head under its wing in fear after noticing the Emperor's displeasure, having retained genetic memories of what can happen to the bearer of bad tidings.

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** And in Stirling's ''{{In ''Literature/{{In The Courts of the Crimson Kings}}'' an OrganicTechnology InstantMessengerPigeon buries its head under its wing in fear after noticing the Emperor's displeasure, having retained genetic memories of what can happen to the bearer of bad tidings.
19th May '16 1:49:32 PM TheWanderer
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And then there's the very worst part of being a BigBad's messenger: [[BearerOfBadNews bring him a message with bad news, any bad news]], (even just something small like that [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas his mother]] is running 10 minutes late for the party) and he'll flip out, fly into a rage, and kill you. Why? Because you're the closest thing to him when he gets the bad news, and [[WeHaveReserves you're expendable]]. [[MookFaceTurn Maybe it's time to see if the heroes need some extra help]] or {{sidekick}}s.

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And then there's the very worst part of being a BigBad's messenger: [[BearerOfBadNews bring him a message with bad news, any bad news]], (even just something small like that [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas his mother]] is running 10 minutes late for the party) and he'll flip out, fly into a rage, and kill you. Why? Because you're the closest thing to him when he gets the bad news, and [[WeHaveReserves you're expendable]]. [[MookFaceTurn Maybe it's time to see if the heroes need some extra help]] or {{sidekick}}s.
or a new {{sidekick}}, or... something. Anything!



By the way, remember when we told the worst was bringing your master a bad news? [[ILied We lied]]. ''The'' worst is bringing ''someone else'' a message from your master. Such as an ultimatum. The recipient is guaranteed to reply, in a non-ambiguous way, that he will have none of it; and by "non-ambiguous", we mean by sending your head back. [[CaptainObvious Without the rest of your body.]] Also note that even the "good guys" might do this, especially {{Anti Hero}}es but only in special cases. Its depressing regularity in the ancient world led to the first rule of international law: Diplomatic Immunity. In the end, everyone (even UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan, who destroyed ''multiple empires'') thought it was just a little unfair to the messengers. In fact, Genghis Khan wiped out one of those empires ''because'' they killed some of his messengers.

When villains do this, it is generally done as a subtrope of YouHaveFailedMe and BearerOfBadNews, and is a way to KickTheDog by [[OffingTheAnnoyance killing the person who annoys you despite their innocence]]. And if you're in a story featuring BlackAndGreyMorality, do whatever it takes to get out of delivering a message, since your life expectancy is slightly shorter than that of a guy standing on top of skyscraper in a thunderstorm saying "[[TemptingFate What's the worst that could happen?]]" It's also usually a subtrope of AggressiveNegotiations. Guys, the messengers are coming in ''peace.''

When heroes do this (to enemy diplomats, NEVER their own servants), it's because [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the messenger was a bad guy anyway]], so why not [[ValuesDissonance murder him?]] Some shows make the messenger look and act particularly [[AssholeVictim evil]] and threaten the characters with death or worse, to avoid the negative aspects of this trope. He may even psychologically torment and provoke them by showing them what happened to those who said no.

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By the way, remember when we told the worst part was bringing your master a some bad news? [[ILied We lied]]. ''The'' worst is bringing ''someone else'' a message from your master. Such as an ultimatum. The recipient is guaranteed to reply, reply "ScrewYourUltimatum" in a non-ambiguous way, that he will have none of it; and by "non-ambiguous", we mean by [[DecapitationPresentation sending your head back. back]]. [[CaptainObvious Without the rest of your body.]] body]]. Also note that even the "good guys" might do this, especially {{Anti Hero}}es but only in special cases.Hero}}es. Its depressing regularity in the ancient world led to the first rule of international law: Diplomatic Immunity. In the end, everyone (even UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan, who destroyed ''multiple empires'') thought it was just a little unfair to the messengers. In fact, Genghis Khan wiped out one of those empires ''because'' they killed some of his messengers.

When villains do this, it is generally done as a subtrope of YouHaveFailedMe and BearerOfBadNews, and is a way to KickTheDog by [[OffingTheAnnoyance killing the person who annoys you despite their innocence]]. And if you're in a story featuring BlackAndGreyMorality, do whatever it takes to get out of delivering a message, since your life expectancy is slightly shorter than that of a guy standing on top of skyscraper in a thunderstorm saying "[[TemptingFate What's the worst that could happen?]]" It's also usually a subtrope of AggressiveNegotiations. Guys, the messengers are coming in ''peace.''

When heroes do this (to enemy diplomats, NEVER their own servants), it's because [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the messenger was a bad guy anyway]], so why not [[ValuesDissonance murder him?]] him]]? Some shows make the messenger look and act particularly [[AssholeVictim evil]] and threaten the characters with death or worse, to avoid the negative aspects of this trope. He may even psychologically torment and provoke them by showing them what happened to those who said no.
no.

And because of what we said earlier about how even anti-heroes may get in on the act, if you're in a story featuring BlackAndGreyMorality do whatever it takes to get out of delivering a message. If you do wind up having to deliver some bad news or an ultimatum in such a work, your life expectancy is probably slightly shorter than that of a guy standing on top of skyscraper in a thunderstorm who's also saying "[[TemptingFate What's the worst that could happen]]?" Guys, the messengers are coming in ''peace.''



Not to be confused with PleaseShootTheMessenger, where the recipient is actively instructed by the message to kill the person who delivered it. Overlap with OffingTheAnnoyance is likely. Compare OffingTheMouth, which would be something like "Shoot the DeadpanSnarker". Contrast MookDepletion where the villain can only afford to have one messenger.

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Not to be confused with PleaseShootTheMessenger, where the recipient is actively instructed by the message to kill the person who delivered it. AggressiveNegotiations may well include this trope as part of said "negotiations". Overlap with OffingTheAnnoyance is likely. Compare OffingTheMouth, which would be something like "Shoot the DeadpanSnarker". Contrast MookDepletion where the villain can only afford to have one messenger.
16th May '16 10:33:23 AM SeanMurrayI
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12th May '16 6:03:38 PM nicktoon39
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* In ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' the reason King Vegeta killed his messenger was changed into the messenger simply being a smartass.
-->'''Butarega:''' [Bardock]'s been telling everyone that Freeza plans to destroy Vegeta.
-->'''King Vegeta:''' Wait, my son, the planet, or me?
-->'''Butarega:''' ...[[MathematiciansAnswer Yes.]]
28th Apr '16 4:16:05 PM Eddy1215
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Not to be confused with PleaseShootTheMessenger, where the recipient is actively instructed by the message to kill the person who delivered it. Overlap with OffingTheAnnoyance is likely. Compare OffingTheMouth, which would be something like "Shoot the DeadpanSnarker".

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Not to be confused with PleaseShootTheMessenger, where the recipient is actively instructed by the message to kill the person who delivered it. Overlap with OffingTheAnnoyance is likely. Compare OffingTheMouth, which would be something like "Shoot the DeadpanSnarker".
DeadpanSnarker". Contrast MookDepletion where the villain can only afford to have one messenger.



* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Margical History Tour", Homer plays a UsefulNotes/HenryVIII who demands so many decapitations the castle runs out of pikes to put the heads on. After the guard captain (Wiggum) informs him of this, despite knowing what the king usually does to the bearer of bad news, we cut to an empty pike storage room. The king admits he was right, and the captain's ''[[LosingYourHead detached, but still living head]]'' is consoled by such.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Margical History Tour", Homer plays a UsefulNotes/HenryVIII who demands so many decapitations the castle runs out of pikes to put the heads on. After the guard captain (Wiggum) one of his servants (Moe) informs him of this, despite knowing what the king usually does to the bearer of bad news, we cut to an empty pike storage room. The king admits he was right, and the captain's ''[[LosingYourHead detached, but still living head]]'' is consoled by such.



* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfRockyAndBullwinkle'', Fearless Leader had an agent executed for telling him that the only available spy for his plan was Boris. Even worse, this happened right after Fearless Leader told him he wouldn't get upset over being told the news.

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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfRockyAndBullwinkle'', Fearless Leader had an agent executed for telling him that the only available spy for his plan was Boris. [[SurroundedByIdiots Boris]]. Even worse, this happened right after Fearless Leader told him [[ILied he wouldn't get upset over being told the news.news]].
* In ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' episode "Vikings", when [=SpongeBob=] sent a letter to a Viking leader, he had the Viking delivering the message sent to the dungeon [[DisproportionateRetribution for interrupting his story]].
10th Apr '16 8:33:11 PM 10-13-2
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Is there a worse job to have than being a messenger for a major villain? The hours are long, the pay is low, your boss [[ItsAllAboutMe thinks that the world revolves around him]], and likes to [[TheNeidermeyer abuse his men]] [[BadBoss for fun]], and remember that [[SignedUpForTheDental dental plan that led you to join in the first place?]] Yeah, that got canceled last year.

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Is there a worse job to have than being a messenger for a major villain? The hours are long, the pay is low, your boss [[ItsAllAboutMe thinks that the world revolves around him]], and likes to [[TheNeidermeyer abuse his men]] [[BadBoss for fun]], and remember that [[SignedUpForTheDental dental plan that led you to join in the first place?]] [[TheCakeIsALie Yeah, that got canceled last year.
year.]]
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