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16th Jul '17 10:00:12 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Downplayed in ''Magazine/{{Dragon}}'' magazine's "The Ecology of the Sheet Ghoul". The story's VillainProtagonist is a greedy miser who becomes a sheet phantom upon dying, and like any, seeks a human host to transform into a Sheet Ghoul. Eventually, he succeeds by slaying a female thief who tries to rob his house. He's a little irked at first upon finding himself in a woman's body, but then he figures, "Eh, better than nothing" and goes about his business.
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1st Jul '17 7:28:21 AM ZeroSD
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* Another aversion is in the case of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporus Sporus]], a slave boy whom Emperor Nero [[CripplingCastration castrated]] and [[AndNowYouMustMarryMe took as a "wife"]] (because Sporus physically resembled Nero's dead wife). Sporus was then forced to marry Nero's next two successors, until Nero's third successor planned to [[HumiliationConga have Sporus raped by gladiators as entertainment]] by which point [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled Sporus hilled himself]].

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* Another aversion is in the case of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporus Sporus]], a slave boy whom Emperor Nero [[CripplingCastration castrated]] and [[AndNowYouMustMarryMe took as a "wife"]] (because Sporus physically resembled Nero's dead wife). Sporus was then forced to marry Nero's next two successors, until Nero's third successor planned to [[HumiliationConga have Sporus raped by gladiators as entertainment]] by which point [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled Sporus hilled killed himself]].
23rd Jun '17 3:35:34 PM infernape612
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* [[spoiler: Xion]] from ''KingdomHearts'' is an iffy example. [[spoiler: She is physically male or genderless but was treated as female throughout the game.]] Regardless, she considers herself female even after the reveal.
-->[[spoiler:Xion]]: [[spoiler:Now its time for the puppet to play her part.]]
** [[spoiler: Her anatomy is clearly female at the start of the game and clearly male when she fights Roxas. Given that she is literally created from Sora's memories though, which in the Kingdom Hearts universe effect how you are seen by others, Xion's actual gender is difficult to pin down.]]

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* [[spoiler: Xion]] from ''KingdomHearts'' ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' is an iffy example. [[spoiler: She is physically male or genderless but was treated as female throughout the game.]] Regardless, she considers herself female even after the reveal.
-->[[spoiler:Xion]]: -->'''[[spoiler:Xion]]:''' [[spoiler:Now its time for the puppet to play her part.]]
** [[spoiler: Her anatomy is clearly female at the start of the game and clearly male when she fights Roxas. Given that she is literally created from Sora's memories though, which in the Kingdom Hearts ''Kingdom Hearts'' universe effect affects how you are seen by others, Xion's actual gender is difficult to pin down.]]



* Shouko Aihara from Gakuen Saimin Reido. Is originally a male bully and playboy known as Akira Aihara before getting hypnotized to take estrogen pills and breast implants and after reaching the female shape. Akira gets hypnotized again to act more feminine and is renamed Shouko.

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* Shouko Aihara from Gakuen ''Gakuen Saimin Reido.Reido''. Is originally a male bully and playboy known as Akira Aihara before getting hypnotized to take estrogen pills and breast implants and after reaching the female shape. Akira gets hypnotized again to act more feminine and is renamed Shouko.
16th Jun '17 11:29:04 AM Adeon
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** Gladys the golem from ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' and ''Discworld/MakingMoney''. Golems are technically genderless but are normally addressed with male pronouns [[ItIsDehumanizing as a courtesy]]. The golem responsible for cleaning the women's restroom was renamed Gladys and given female clothing to ensure propriety. Over the course of the books she starts adopting more and more female traits.
10th Jun '17 3:28:51 PM nombretomado
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* Played straight in ''Webcomic/{{Cheer}}'' (the aforementioned spinoff comic of ''TheWotch'') when Jo, the only one of the the transformed cheerleaders who knows she used to be a boy, freely admits that she and her friends were all troubled as boys and are all much happier as girls, though she still cries when she discovers that no one remembers her former male self's CrowningMomentOfAwesome. The other three jocks-turned-cheerleaders have so far averted this trope, since they don't appear to remember the past.

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* Played straight in ''Webcomic/{{Cheer}}'' (the aforementioned spinoff comic of ''TheWotch'') ''Webcomic/TheWotch'') when Jo, the only one of the the transformed cheerleaders who knows she used to be a boy, freely admits that she and her friends were all troubled as boys and are all much happier as girls, though she still cries when she discovers that no one remembers her former male self's CrowningMomentOfAwesome. The other three jocks-turned-cheerleaders have so far averted this trope, since they don't appear to remember the past.
9th Jun '17 3:06:50 PM nombretomado
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* The main characters in ''[[WhateleyUniverse Whateley Academy]]'' play this trope across the entire spectrum. It doesn't hurt that for most of them being turned female was a side effect to gaining the superpowers which make them some of the most attractive and powerful people ''on the planet.'' (It's also completely and utterly '''[[FirstLawOfGenderBending impossible]]''' for them to change back, period.) Still, the degree of acceptance tends to be directly contingent upon the degree to which each character was (knowingly or unknowingly) transgender in the first place.

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* The main characters in ''[[WhateleyUniverse ''[[Literature/WhateleyUniverse Whateley Academy]]'' play this trope across the entire spectrum. It doesn't hurt that for most of them being turned female was a side effect to gaining the superpowers which make them some of the most attractive and powerful people ''on the planet.'' (It's also completely and utterly '''[[FirstLawOfGenderBending impossible]]''' for them to change back, period.) Still, the degree of acceptance tends to be directly contingent upon the degree to which each character was (knowingly or unknowingly) transgender in the first place.
17th May '17 12:10:58 PM DaibhidC
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* Largely averted in ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' despite all of the constant GenderBending: Elliot has no interest in remaining female for long and considers his gender-bending PowerIncontinence distasteful, Justin specifically rejects the idea even though it would make him sexually compatible with the object of his unrequited affection, Ellen accepts it without expressing any preference (though there are hints that the LossOfIdentity associated with [[OppositeSexClone Opposite Sex]] CloningBlues was a sore point until she got a new set of memories).

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* Largely averted Used sparingly in ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' despite all of the constant GenderBending: Elliot has no interest in remaining female for long and considers his gender-bending PowerIncontinence distasteful, GenderBending:
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Justin specifically rejects the idea even though it would make him sexually compatible with the object of his unrequited affection, Ellen accepts it without expressing any preference (though there are hints that the LossOfIdentity associated with [[OppositeSexClone Opposite Sex]] CloningBlues was a sore point until she got a new set of memories).affection.



** The current theory is that Elliot will acquire new female forms again and again until he really likes one of them -- then again, it was [[ChivalrousPervert Tedd]]'s idea. Between [[spoiler:flying around as a [[ChronicHeroSyndrome superhero]]''ine'']] and [[spoiler:ogling PerkyGoth form in a mirror]], he may have found this already.
** Tedd is the only straight example. He likes this form of shapeshifting because his androgynous face becomes an advantage while close enough to Tedd's own form and he likes to feel attractive. Once this problem became moot [[FirstLawOfGenderBending it was revealed]] that BodySwap is [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2006-08-07 #37 on his fetish list]].

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** The current theory is that Elliot will acquire new initially had no interest in remaining female forms again for long and again until considered his gender-bending PowerIncontinence distasteful. However, upon finding aspects of his magic he really likes one of them -- then again, it was [[ChivalrousPervert Tedd]]'s idea. Between [[spoiler:flying liked ([[spoiler:flying around as a [[ChronicHeroSyndrome superhero]]''ine'']] and [[spoiler:ogling PerkyGoth his {{Goth}} form in a mirror]], mirror]]) he's grown to accept the female forms [[spoiler: to the point of being worried that he may have found this already.
might lose them if magic changes]].
** Tedd is the only a straight example. He likes this form of shapeshifting because his androgynous face becomes an advantage while close enough to Tedd's own form and he likes to feel attractive. Once this problem became moot [[FirstLawOfGenderBending it was revealed]] that BodySwap is [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2006-08-07 #37 on his fetish list]]. Later strips established he's actually genderfluid, he just didn't know the term.
** Ellen states she doesn't suffer gender dysphoria and wouldn't want to be male (though there are hints that the LossOfIdentity associated with [[OppositeSexClone Opposite Sex]] CloningBlues was a sore point until she got a new set of memories).
4th Apr '17 9:55:14 PM Timjames98
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* Another aversion is in the case of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporus Sporus]], a slave boy whom Emperor Nero [[CripplingCastration castrated]] and [[AndNowYouMustMarryMe took as a "wife"]] (because Sporus physically resembled Nero's dead wife). Sporus was then forced to marry Nero's next two sucessors, until Nero's third sucessor planned to [[HuliationConga have Sporus raped by gladiators as entertainment]] by which point [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled Sporus hilled himself]].

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* Another aversion is in the case of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporus Sporus]], a slave boy whom Emperor Nero [[CripplingCastration castrated]] and [[AndNowYouMustMarryMe took as a "wife"]] (because Sporus physically resembled Nero's dead wife). Sporus was then forced to marry Nero's next two sucessors, successors, until Nero's third sucessor successor planned to [[HuliationConga [[HumiliationConga have Sporus raped by gladiators as entertainment]] by which point [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled Sporus hilled himself]].
4th Apr '17 9:48:43 PM Timjames98
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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer David Reimer]] case is a famous aversion. When doctors botched a circumcision and [[BodyHorror cut off the baby's penis]], some [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money quack psychologist]] thought he would use this opportunity to prove that gender is wholly based on nurture rather than nature, and had the parents raise this child as a girl, expecting that he would just accept his new gender. This did not work, as the child always felt confused and grew to intensely hate the psychologist who was using "her" as his personal guinea pig.

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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer David Reimer]] case is a famous aversion. When doctors botched a circumcision and [[BodyHorror cut off the baby's penis]], some [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money quack psychologist]] thought he would use this opportunity to prove that gender is wholly based on nurture rather than nature, and had the parents raise this child as a girl, expecting that he would just accept his new gender. This did not work, as the child always felt confused and grew to intensely hate the psychologist who was using "her" as his personal guinea pig. Eventually David Reimer underwent treatment to reverse this, making himself as close physically to a man as he could. Sadly his life started to fall apart a decade later and he was DrivenToSuicide.
* Another aversion is in the case of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporus Sporus]], a slave boy whom Emperor Nero [[CripplingCastration castrated]] and [[AndNowYouMustMarryMe took as a "wife"]] (because Sporus physically resembled Nero's dead wife). Sporus was then forced to marry Nero's next two sucessors, until Nero's third sucessor planned to [[HuliationConga have Sporus raped by gladiators as entertainment]] by which point [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled Sporus hilled himself]].
16th Mar '17 9:22:49 PM redandready45
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* ''Film/TheHotChick'': Though initially horrified, Clive uses Jessica's body to become a successful crook, and when Jessica tracks him down, [[spoiler: Jessica has to trick Clive into getting her body back]].
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