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20th Jun '17 1:04:45 PM PDL
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** The Unova series ended up rotting as well. It started with decent pacing and subdivisions for story arcs, which actually continued on to the TournamentArc. Unfortunately, things began slipping once the 2011 Tohoku-Fukushima disaster hit, and a two-parter was pulled [[TooSoon to avoid encountering criticism]], though it was still well-received for the remainder of the next year. Then ''Black 2 & White 2'' created an [[ExecutiveMeddling executive-mandated revamp of the arc, and it officially all fell apart.]] There were good spots, like when WhatCouldHaveBeen Johto's Celebi Arc (but with Meloetta instead) was made, and the Battle Club Tournament arcs where a number of reoccurring characters battled and interacted with each other, but the big League Tournament itself was almost universally reviled for making the the poor decision of having TheScrappy, an excruciatingly dopey boy named Cameron, knock out not just fan-favorite Bianca but Ash himself as well, making this his fifth tournament loss and thus ruining all momentum built up yet again. The Plasma arc afterward distilled a lot of the moral debates and ideals of the games and has ''massive'' amounts of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, and the arc after that, featuring Ash and co. island-hopping in the Decalore Archipelago, [[FillerArc is nothing but filler]], with a ton of plots unashamedly [[RecycledScript recycled]] from the series' extensive history and filled with shameless advertising for the then-upcoming ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''. [[ArcFatigue Needless to say, people were quite relieved when the Black and White saga ended]].

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** The Unova series ended up rotting as well. It started with decent pacing and subdivisions for story arcs, which actually continued on to the TournamentArc. Unfortunately, things began slipping once the 2011 Tohoku-Fukushima disaster hit, and a two-parter was pulled [[TooSoon to avoid encountering criticism]], though it was still well-received for the remainder of the next year. Then ''Black 2 & White 2'' created an [[ExecutiveMeddling executive-mandated revamp of the arc, and it officially all fell apart.]] There were good spots, like when WhatCouldHaveBeen Johto's Celebi Arc (but with Meloetta instead) was made, the decision to not have Team Rocket shoehorned into every episode and the Battle Club Tournament arcs where a number of reoccurring characters battled and interacted with each other, but the big League Tournament itself was almost universally reviled for making the the poor decision of having TheScrappy, an excruciatingly dopey boy named Cameron, knock out not just fan-favorite Bianca but Ash himself as well, making this his fifth tournament loss and thus ruining all momentum built up yet again. The Plasma arc afterward distilled a lot of the moral debates and ideals of the games and has ''massive'' amounts of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, and the arc after that, featuring Ash and co. island-hopping in the Decalore Archipelago, [[FillerArc is nothing but filler]], filler]] (think Orange Islands but no league for Ash to compete in), with a ton of plots unashamedly [[RecycledScript recycled]] from the series' extensive history and filled with shameless advertising for the then-upcoming ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''. [[ArcFatigue Needless to say, people were quite relieved when the Black and White saga ended]].
20th Jun '17 12:56:57 PM Wyldchyld
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** The later parts of the Arrancar saga proved to be extremely contentious, and ended up damaging the series' popularity. Common issues cited include [[AssPull poorly implemented plot twists]], many [[AntiClimax anticlimactic fights]] and an extremely painful case of ArcFatigue.
19th Jun '17 8:36:13 AM Austin
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** The later parts of the Arrancar saga proved to be extremely contentious, and ended up damaging the series' popularity. Common issues cited include [[AssPull poorly implemented plot twists]], many [[AntiClimax anticlimactic fights]] and an extremely painful case of ArcFatigue.
17th Jun '17 5:58:51 PM Wyldchyld
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** While exactly ''where'' the rot started is a matter of debate, the later parts of the Arrancar saga proved to be extremely contentious, and ended up damaging the series' popularity. Common issues cited include [[AssPull poorly implemented plot twists]], many [[AntiClimax anticlimactic fights]] and an extremely painful case of ArcFatigue.

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** While exactly ''where'' the rot started The Lost Agent Arc is considered a matter of debate, the later parts very problematic part of the Arrancar saga proved canon storyline. Initially well-received as a chance to be extremely contentious, allow the human characters to shine, the new characters were unconvincing, the new powers introduced were considered confusing, and the arc ended up damaging with the series' popularity. Common issues cited include [[AssPull poorly implemented plot twists]], many [[AntiClimax anticlimactic fights]] and Shinigami saving the humans in an extremely painful case rushed wrap-up of ArcFatigue.the arc. This was predicted by the fandom but still caused huge disappointment. The arc is regarded as nothing more than a poorly designed plot device to give Ichigo back his powers; even the fans that like the arc regard it as a good example of how Kubo starts an arc really well, but cannot sustain the quality to the end.



** The Lost Agent Arc is considered a very problematic part of the canon storyline. Initially well-received as a chance to allow the human characters to shine, the new characters were unconvincing, the new powers introduced were considered confusing, and the arc ended with the Shinigami saving the humans in an extremely rushed wrap-up of the arc. This was predicted by the fandom but still caused huge disappointment. The arc is regarded as nothing more than a poorly designed plot device to give Ichigo back his powers; even the fans that like the arc regard it as a good example of how Kubo starts an arc really well, but cannot sustain the quality to the end.
11th Jun '17 2:47:54 PM FromtheWordsofBR
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* Some say WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd went through this between James [[CreatorBreakdown contracting major burnout]] in early 2010 and the filming of Film/AngryVideoGameNerdTheMovie in mid-2012. He had noticeably less energy and passion during this time period, and his "anger" (the defining trait of his character) was quite a bit more restrained. He ''may'' be making a comeback now that the film has been completed, allowing him to focus more on the show itself.

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* Some say WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd went through this between James [[CreatorBreakdown contracting major burnout]] in early 2010 and the filming of Film/AngryVideoGameNerdTheMovie in mid-2012. He had noticeably less energy and passion during this time period, and his "anger" (the defining trait of his character) was quite a bit more restrained. He ''may'' be making a comeback now that the film Fortunately, though, many have stated he has been completed, pulled out of the rot after the movie was finally finished and released, allowing him to focus more time to work on the show itself.series.
11th May '17 2:34:37 PM morenohijazo
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* ''ComicBook/MortadeloYFilemon'': Most fans agree that it's been going on since TheEighties, though very occasionally a decent album still appears.
3rd May '17 9:37:30 PM Jacob175
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* ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}'': After the death of script writer Creator/ReneGoscinny artist Albert Uderzo took the difficult decision of continuing the series alone. Though the art work of these comics were still top notch and the stories OK on their own terms, Uderzo lacked the wit of his genius script writer. Many ''Asterix'' stories after 1977 are far less clever and funny and more fantastical and melodramatic. It essentially became more geared at children than before, with the atrocious ''Asterix and the Falling Sky'' [[note]] where science fiction elements are mixed in [[/note]] as the final sign that Uderzo just didn't care anymore. He quit drawing the strip after that and new artists have continued the series.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}'': After the death of script writer Creator/ReneGoscinny Creator/ReneGoscinny, artist Albert Uderzo took the difficult decision of continuing the series alone. Though the art work of these comics were still top notch and the stories OK on their own terms, Uderzo lacked the wit of his genius script writer. Many ''Asterix'' stories after 1977 are far less clever and funny and more fantastical and melodramatic. It essentially became more geared at children than before, with the atrocious ''Asterix and the Falling Sky'' [[note]] where science fiction elements are mixed in [[/note]] as the final sign that Uderzo just didn't care anymore. He quit drawing the strip after that and new artists have continued the series.



* ''[[Comic/TheDandy The Dandy]]'' of the latter half of the 1960s and 1970s, while considered a golden age for the comic by some, is often seen as a weak point in the comic's history by many due to [[TwoDecadesBehind how badly the comic fell behind the times]], with outdated strips like Black Bob and Winker Watson running in an era where other comics had more relatable, down to earth strips like Dennis the Menace. To add to this, most people drawing the strips were veteran artists who had started with comics in the 1940s or before. If an artist [[AuthorExistenceFailure died]], then more often than not their strips were reprinted, rather than replaced or given a new artist. Little effort was made to remedy this until Albert Barnes, who had been the ''Dandy'' editor since its inception in the 1930s, was finally replaced... ''in 1982''.

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* ''[[Comic/TheDandy The Dandy]]'' ''Comic/TheDandy'' of the latter half of the 1960s and 1970s, while considered a golden age for the comic by some, is often seen as a weak point in the comic's history by many due to [[TwoDecadesBehind how badly the comic fell behind the times]], with outdated strips like Black Bob and Winker Watson running in an era where other comics had more relatable, down to earth strips like Dennis the Menace. To add to this, most people drawing the strips were veteran artists who had started with comics in the 1940s or before. If an artist [[AuthorExistenceFailure died]], then more often than not their strips were reprinted, rather than replaced or given a new artist. Little effort was made to remedy this until Albert Barnes, who had been the ''Dandy'' editor since its inception in the 1930s, was finally replaced... ''in 1982''.



** ''Film/LiveFreeOrDieHard'' got it bad upon release in 2007, not from critics (who praised the movie, and claimed it to be closer to the original), but the "Die Hard" fanbase, for flanderizing John [=McClane=]'s character from an everyday, humanised cop to a complete "superhero", and toning the franchise's content, from originally a hard R, to a PG-13 in the lines of the Michael Bay ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' movies.

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** ''Film/LiveFreeOrDieHard'' got it bad upon release in 2007, not from critics (who praised the movie, and claimed it to be closer to the original), but the "Die Hard" fanbase, for flanderizing John [=McClane=]'s character from an everyday, humanised cop to a complete "superhero", and toning the franchise's content, from originally a hard R, R to a PG-13 in the lines of the Michael Bay ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' movies.




* Ever since Anime/DanganRonpa3, the Franchise/DanganRonpa series has suffers a dip in quality and there was a huge BrokenBase within the franchise. Anime/DanganRonpa3 was accused of suffering from too much DarknessInducedAudienceApathy, a plot that involves a heavy FanDislikedExplanation, {{Flanderization}} of the VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2 cast, and an ending that has a lot of PanderingToTheBase. Come to VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 where while the first five chapters had a positive reception, the game was then hit with a ''massive'' EndingAversion that the fans [[NeverLiveItDown wouldn't have live down]].

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\n* Ever since Anime/DanganRonpa3, the Franchise/DanganRonpa series has suffers a dip in quality and there was a huge BrokenBase within the franchise. Anime/DanganRonpa3 was accused of suffering from too much DarknessInducedAudienceApathy, a plot that involves a heavy FanDislikedExplanation, {{Flanderization}} of the VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2 cast, and an ending that has a lot of PanderingToTheBase. Come to VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 where while the first five chapters had a positive reception, the game was then hit with a ''massive'' EndingAversion that the fans [[NeverLiveItDown wouldn't have live down]]. \n



* The daily ''ComicStrip/SpiderMan'' strip, in recent years, has been commonly criticized for Spiderman becoming [[AdaptationalWimp rather pathetic]] as his Spidey-Sense doesn't seem to work anymore (Spider-man has been whacked on the back of the head by generic thugs countless times), introduction of lame villains (a failed stage actor becomes a villain named [[IncrediblyLamePun "Clown 9"]] and for most of the arc easily defeats Spiderman despite having no actual superpowers) and Spider-man more often than not ends up getting rescued by other Marvel heroes or [[EnemyMine even villains]]. These faults eventually became so noticeable that they were spoofed in the ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' event, in which the daily strip's Peter is spared from consumption by Morlun thanks in part to his universe's repetitious timeline and the Master Weaver taking pity on the universe and opting to preserve it from Inheritor attacks.

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* The daily ''ComicStrip/SpiderMan'' strip, in recent years, has been commonly criticized for Spiderman Spider-Man becoming [[AdaptationalWimp rather pathetic]] as his Spidey-Sense doesn't seem to work anymore (Spider-man (Spider-Man has been whacked on the back of the head by generic thugs countless times), introduction of lame villains (a failed stage actor becomes a villain named [[IncrediblyLamePun "Clown 9"]] and for most of the arc easily defeats Spiderman Spider-Man despite having no actual superpowers) and Spider-man Spider-Man more often than not ends up getting rescued by other Marvel heroes or [[EnemyMine even villains]]. These faults eventually became so noticeable that they were spoofed in the ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' event, in which the daily strip's Peter is spared from consumption by Morlun thanks in part to his universe's repetitious timeline and the Master Weaver taking pity on the universe and opting to preserve it from Inheritor attacks.



* Some say ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' started decreasing in quality after its VideoGame3DLeap with the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 duology]], which hit the PolygonCeiling with its increased use of GameplayRoulette with various characters (most notoriously with Big the Cat and [[ScrappyMechanic his fishing gameplay]] from the first ''Adventure'' game) and having less-polished gameplay compared to the Genesis titles; or ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes'' for its slippery controls and [[FakeLongevity overly repetitive]] gameplay. However, most will agree that the series really began to rot with ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'' thanks to constant rush jobs, as well as the development hell that ultimately doomed ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006''. The series showed considerable improvements starting with ''VideoGame/SonicColors'', but it's in a strange spot right now after the utter failure of Sega's attempt to "westernize" the franchise with the ''VideoGame/SonicBoom'' spinoff titles. (In contast to the [[WesternAnimation/SonicBoom TV series]], which has been an overall success).

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* Some say ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' started decreasing in quality after its VideoGame3DLeap with the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 duology]], which hit the PolygonCeiling with its increased use of GameplayRoulette with various characters (most notoriously with Big the Cat and [[ScrappyMechanic his fishing gameplay]] from the first ''Adventure'' game) and having less-polished gameplay compared to the Genesis titles; or ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes'' for its slippery controls and [[FakeLongevity overly repetitive]] gameplay. However, most will agree that the series really began to rot with ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'' thanks to constant rush jobs, as well as the development hell that ultimately doomed ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006''. The series showed considerable improvements starting with ''VideoGame/SonicColors'', but it's in a strange spot right now after the utter failure of Sega's attempt to "westernize" the franchise with the ''VideoGame/SonicBoom'' spinoff titles. (In contast to the [[WesternAnimation/SonicBoom TV series]], which has been an overall success).



** Season 4 is considered a very bad Season in most fans' eyes. The characters become unlikeable and inept and {{Filler}} takes up most of the episodes. The plot in the first few episodes consists mostly of Mario and Luigi trying to pay for Snake's Foxdie medication, which makes no sense since not only is Foxdie inconsistent with how it's portrayed in Franchise/MetalGear, said plot is set up in a completely contrived scene. It all moves slowly for a few episodes before apparently ''[[AbortedArc forgetting]] about it'' and goes off on a different plot involving {{Ninja}}s and a group known as The Trifecta, led by [[BigBad Blaire Vherestorm]]. It's interesting, but just as it's about to be resolved, [[spoiler:The Darkness]], kills him, and takes over, [[ShockingSwerve completely out of nowhere]]. Not helping matters is that most of the jokes aren't funny, [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Brock and Gary]] are [[TheArtifact pointless]], Waluigi is written out in a weak manner, [[Franchise/StreetFighter Ken]] is one of the bad guys. and everyone mispronounces Ryu's name for no good reason.
** Whether or not Season 5 is any better is debated, but it's certainly not as good as the first three seasons and TheMovie. The main plot is interesting, involving a war between [[EvilVersusEvil two villainous factions]] and the main cast, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot but no one takes it seriously]], instead using it as a PiratesVersusNinjas storyline. Gary and Brock are involved in the plot, but clearly still have nothing to do. Characters come back to life for no reason. The BigBad ([[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Ganon]]) is underutilized, not helped by the fact that Link only appears in the GrandFinale to die and basically serve as ''Mario's power up''. In addition there's more {{Filler}}, {{Retcon}}s, {{Plot Hole}}s, and [[SeriesContinuityError inconsistencies]] than you can shake a stick at.

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** Season 4 is considered a very bad Season in most fans' eyes. The characters become unlikeable and inept and {{Filler}} takes up most of the episodes. The plot in the first few episodes consists mostly of Mario and Luigi trying to pay for Snake's Foxdie medication, which makes no sense since not only is Foxdie inconsistent with how it's portrayed in Franchise/MetalGear, Franchise/MetalGear and said plot is set up in a completely contrived scene. It all moves slowly for a few episodes before apparently ''[[AbortedArc forgetting]] about it'' and goes off on a different plot involving {{Ninja}}s and a group known as The Trifecta, led by [[BigBad Blaire Vherestorm]]. It's interesting, but just as it's about to be resolved, [[spoiler:The Darkness]], Darkness]] kills him, him and takes over, [[ShockingSwerve completely out of nowhere]]. Not helping matters is that most of the jokes aren't funny, [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Brock and Gary]] are [[TheArtifact pointless]], Waluigi is written out in a weak manner, [[Franchise/StreetFighter Ken]] is one of the bad guys. guys and everyone mispronounces Ryu's name for no good reason.
** Whether or not Season 5 is any better is debated, but it's certainly not as good as the first three seasons and TheMovie. The main plot is interesting, involving a war between [[EvilVersusEvil two villainous factions]] and the main cast, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot but no one takes it seriously]], instead using it as a PiratesVersusNinjas storyline. Gary and Brock are involved in the plot, but clearly still have nothing to do. Characters come back to life for no reason. The BigBad ([[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Ganon]]) [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Ganon]] is underutilized, not helped by the fact that Link only appears in the GrandFinale to die and basically serve as ''Mario's power up''. In addition there's more {{Filler}}, {{Retcon}}s, {{Plot Hole}}s, and [[SeriesContinuityError inconsistencies]] than you can shake a stick at.
28th Apr '17 6:58:32 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* While it wouldn't be the first divisive album that Music/TheBlackDahliaMurder released (''Everblack'' was also polarizing, but had a lot of fans who liked the heavier, darker direction), ''Abysmal'' definitely picked up the most flack of any album of theirs in some time. While it has its defenders and most fans can agree that it does have some great songs, the general consensus is that it's a warmed-over retread of ''Miasma'' with a bunch of throwaway tracks.
24th Apr '17 2:19:26 AM LondonKdS
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* ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'': Volumes I and II are very well-regarded due to having very strong plots which support a plethora of literary references and dirty jokes. However, in Volume 3 and ''Black Dossier'' the plot really takes a backseat to the references, which become increasingly obscure, and the jokes, which become increasingly dirty. What began as a fun comic any moderately well-read individual could enjoy became a nigh-incomprehensible tour of all the weird books Creator/AlanMoore wants you to know he has read. The ''Century'' mini-series also gets this reaction quite a bit, due to it both continuing several of the aforementioned issues regarding plotting and unnecessarily obscure references while also gradually becoming an extended AuthorTract on why Alan Moore hates twenty-first century pop culture / ''Franchise/HarryPotter''.

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* ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'': Volumes I and II are very well-regarded due to having very strong plots which support a plethora of literary references and dirty jokes. However, in Volume 3 and ''Black Dossier'' the plot really takes a backseat to the references, which become increasingly obscure, and the jokes, which become increasingly dirty. What began as a fun comic any moderately well-read individual could enjoy became a nigh-incomprehensible tour of all the weird books Creator/AlanMoore wants you to know he has read. The ''Century'' mini-series also gets this reaction quite a bit, due to it both continuing several of the aforementioned issues regarding plotting and unnecessarily obscure references while also gradually becoming an extended AuthorTract on why Alan Moore hates all twenty-first century pop culture / and especially ''Franchise/HarryPotter''.
18th Apr '17 3:11:59 PM FF32
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* Parodied in an 1980's issue of ''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' detailing the devolution of the fictional sitcom "Idle Hours". Originally about a trio of high school boys in 1940's Indiana, the show deteriorates thanks to pointlessly "zany" and "[{AVerySpecialEpisode socially conscious]]" [[CousinOliver new]] and [[ReplacementScrappy replacement]] characters, the loss of established characters (especially to spin-offs), guest stars, and nonsensical plotlines. After ten seasons, the setting transplanted to southern California and the cast whittled down to a "Korean war orphan" introduced in season five, the show is mercifully taken off the air [[spoiler: thirteen weeks after it premiered]].

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* Parodied in an 1980's issue of ''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' detailing the devolution of the fictional sitcom "Idle Hours". Originally about a trio of high school boys in 1940's Indiana, the show deteriorates thanks to pointlessly "zany" and "[{AVerySpecialEpisode "[[AVerySpecialEpisode socially conscious]]" [[CousinOliver new]] and [[ReplacementScrappy replacement]] characters, the loss of established characters (especially to spin-offs), guest stars, and nonsensical plotlines. After ten seasons, the setting transplanted to a southern California radio station and the cast whittled down to a "Korean war orphan" introduced in season five, the show is mercifully taken off the air [[spoiler: thirteen weeks after it premiered]].
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