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13th Sep '17 9:47:29 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* While many are divided on whether or not the first season of ''Manga/Freezing'' had it's problems, the season that came after it is very much agreed to have a lot of problems. The most reviled feature is the meshing of the Siblings and E-Pandora arcs, it not only disrupted the flow, but managed to make Satellizer and Kazuya even more unlikable than they already were.

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* While many are divided on whether or not the first season of ''Manga/Freezing'' ''Manga/{{Freezing}}'' had it's problems, the season that came after it is very much agreed to have a lot of problems. The most reviled feature is the meshing of the Siblings and E-Pandora arcs, it not only disrupted the flow, but managed to make Satellizer and Kazuya even more unlikable than they already were.
13th Sep '17 9:44:02 PM Mikasa
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* ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'' is an example of a good series that could REALLY do without the filler. While the earlier fillers were brushed off as the series had stayed consistent for most fans, many consider the dropping point to be what came after Kyoto. It was filler, endless amounts of filler. Much like Naruto's and to a lesser extent Bleach's it relied on poor plots and managed to drive fans away.
* While many are divided on whether or not the first season of ''Manga/Freezing'' had it's problems, the season that came after it is very much agreed to have a lot of problems. The most reviled feature is the meshing of the Siblings and E-Pandora arcs, it not only disrupted the flow, but managed to make Satellizer and Kazuya even more unlikable than they already were.
13th Sep '17 4:40:41 AM Baeraad555
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* Literature/SisterhoodSeries by Creator/FernMichaels: This trope most certainly occurred after the book ''Free Fall''. The author herself said that she was only planning on writing 7 books for the series... at first. Then she decided to write more books. This resulted in 13 more books, and the storyline eventually just dragged on. That, and a number of flaws that had been present in the first 7 books became glaringly obvious, and the final book ''Home Free'' did have an ending that likely left readers feeling that the series ended not with a bang, but a whimper!

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* Literature/SisterhoodSeries by Creator/FernMichaels: This trope most certainly occurred after the book ''Free Fall''. The author herself said that she was only planning on writing 7 books for the series... at first. Then she decided to write more books. This resulted in 13 more books, and the storyline eventually just dragged on. That, and [[FranchiseOriginalSin a number of flaws that had been present in the first 7 books books]] became glaringly obvious, and the final book ''Home Free'' did have an ending that likely left readers feeling that the series ended not with a bang, but a whimper!
9th Sep '17 6:20:52 AM Pikachu4Prezident
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* Ever since ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'', the ''Franchise/DanganRonpa'' series has suffers a dip in quality and there was a huge BrokenBase within the franchise. ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' was accused of suffering from too much DarknessInducedAudienceApathy, a plot that involves a heavy FanDislikedExplanation, {{Flanderization}} of the ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' cast, and an ending that has a lot of PanderingToTheBase. Come to ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'' where while the first five chapters had a positive reception, the game was then hit with a ''massive'' EndingAversion that the fans [[NeverLiveItDown wouldn't have live down]].

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* Ever since The ''Franchise/DanganRonpa'' franchise has previously been met with critical and commercial acclaim, with the first game being seen as a worthy start to a new series and the second game often being considered [[EvenBetterSequel even better than its predecessor]]...but after the airing of ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'', the ''Franchise/DanganRonpa'' series has suffers suffered a dip in quality and there was a huge BrokenBase within quality, with all of the franchise. ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' was accused of suffering from too much DarknessInducedAudienceApathy, a plot [[BrokenBase base-splitting]] that involves a heavy FanDislikedExplanation, comes with it. To elaborate, ''Dangan Ronpa 3'' started off decently enough, but as it continued onward, its reputation began to sour; in the case of ''Side:Future'', the numerous deaths of the likeable Future Foundation members and mercilessly bleak tone lead to many fans [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy losing any reason to care about what was going on]], which was only exacerbated with TheReveal of the mastermind...whose plan quickly became infamous among the fanbase for being utterly nonsencical and [[ShockingSwerve coming completely out of nowhere with nothing before indicating any such thing was hinted at]]. ''Side:Despair'', on the other hand, not only suffered because of the {{Flanderization}} and overall [[DemotedToExtra middling importance]] of most of the ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' cast, and an ending but also failed thanks to everyone [[IdiotPlot acting like complete morons in order to make Junko's plot work in a certain way]] ''and'' the introduction of a [[FanDislikedExplanation much-derided plot element]] that has a lot destroyed much of PanderingToTheBase. Come the mystique behind the plot of ''Super Dangan Ronpa 2'' (and the larger story of ''Dangan Ronpa'', by extension) and Junko's character (which also [[spoiler:bled into ''Side:Future'', adding further derision to the mastermind's plan and serving to turn a previously popular character into TheScrappy]]). Both sides of the anime suffered from PacingProblems and [[{{Padding}} more time-filling than necessary]], [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter characters being introduced and quickly forgotten (or killed)]], [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot storylines fans wanted to see happen never coming to fruition]] and so many {{Retcon}}s to the already established lore that fans question if the studio behind the show had even ''played'' the first two games and ''VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls''. To top it all off, ''Side:Hope'' ended with what many consider to be a very blatant case of PanderingToTheBase that placated some fans but infuriated others. Fans who were hoping for a return to form coming off of ''Dangan Ronpa 3'' and a breath of fresh air in ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'' where while ended up feeling similarly short-changed; although the first five chapters had a positive reception, were well-received, the game was then hit with a ''massive'' '''vicious''' case of EndingAversion and FranchiseOriginalSin that the fans players are unlikely to [[NeverLiveItDown wouldn't have let the development team live down]].down]]. It remains to be seen if the series will recover from its missteps.
6th Sep '17 2:49:21 PM Yeow95
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* While every sequel to the original ''Franchise/PlanetOfTheApes'' suffered from both [[FranchiseZombie continuing when the previous installment was meant to be the last]] and a smaller budget than the previous one, the last one, ''Film/BattleForThePlanetOfTheApes'', is widely considered the absolute nadir. The reboot ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes'', however, has been very well received, and [[Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes its sequel]] is held as possibly the only one to rival the [[Film/PlanetOfTheApes1968 original]].

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* While every sequel to the original ''Franchise/PlanetOfTheApes'' suffered from both [[FranchiseZombie continuing when the previous installment was meant to be the last]] and a smaller budget than the previous one, the last one, ''Film/BattleForThePlanetOfTheApes'', is widely considered the absolute nadir. The reboot ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes'', however, has been very well received, and its [[Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes its sequel]] is two]] [[Film/WarForThePlanetOfTheApes sequels]] are held as possibly the only one to films that rival the [[Film/PlanetOfTheApes1968 original]].
6th Sep '17 1:55:17 PM PDL
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** All of the arcs after the Orange Islands have taken flak for running on longer than necessary. This is mostly due to the fact that there is usually a gap of 3 years between the release of new games and the games themselves have maybe 6 to 9 months worth of content without fillers or additional storylines invented for the anime. Though Johto and Unova take more flak than most.

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** All of the arcs after the Orange Islands have taken flak for running on longer than necessary. This is mostly due to the fact that there is usually a gap of 3 3-4 years between the release of new games and the games themselves have maybe 6 to 9 months to a year's worth of content without fillers or additional storylines invented for the anime. Though Johto and Unova take more flak than most.
24th Aug '17 1:30:51 PM Dedars1
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* Music/DavidBowie went through this after ''Music/LetsDance'' (1983), which was nevertheless a huge bestseller. Throughout the rest of the decade and the 1990s he seemed to have lost it. With ''The Heathen'' (2002) he made a comeback.

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* Music/DavidBowie went through this after ''Music/LetsDance'' (1983), which was nevertheless a huge bestseller. Throughout the rest of the decade and the early 1990s he seemed to have lost it. With ''The Heathen'' (2002) ''Black Tie, White Noise'' (1993) he made a comeback.
21st Aug '17 3:46:48 PM Jediuser
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* Many consider ''Anime/CodeGeass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2'' a step down from the first season due to [[{{Asspull}} increasingly absurd plot twists]], the vast majority of the old cast being DemotedToExtra, plot threads going unresolved or just dropped entirely, and an increased focus on [[MiniMecha mecha battles]] at the expense of the strategic interplay that characterized much of the first season (and main character Lelouch). However, the ending is almost universally praised for delivering proper closure to both the series and its title character.

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* Many consider ''Anime/CodeGeass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2'' a step down from the first season due to [[{{Asspull}} increasingly absurd plot twists]], the vast majority of the old cast being DemotedToExtra, OutOfFocus, plot threads going unresolved or just dropped entirely, and an increased focus on [[MiniMecha mecha battles]] at the expense of the strategic interplay that characterized much of the first season (and main character Lelouch). However, the ending is almost universally praised for delivering proper closure to both the series and its title character.
18th Aug '17 1:25:31 PM TheBigBopper
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One reason that ShortRunners are so fondly remembered is that they never lived long enough for Seasonal Rot to set in. Compare {{Sequelitis}}, SophomoreSlump and LaterInstallmentWeirdness; and if the whole network is undergoing this, NetworkDecay. Contrast with GrowingTheBeard (though it is possible for a show that has entered Seasonal Rot to re-Grow the Beard). A {{Retool}} may also be in order should the writers feel that the work needs it.

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One reason that ShortRunners are so often fondly remembered is that they never lived live long enough for Seasonal Rot to set in. Compare {{Sequelitis}}, SophomoreSlump and LaterInstallmentWeirdness; and if the whole network is undergoing this, NetworkDecay. Contrast with GrowingTheBeard (though it is possible for a show that has entered Seasonal Rot to re-Grow the Beard). A {{Retool}} may also be in order should the writers feel that the work needs it.
9th Aug '17 12:45:41 PM MBG
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* Marvel's ''ComicBook/TheTransformers'' hit this somewhere around #24. Bob Budiansky was initially decent, if uneven, but after that point, he began to suffer a CreatorBreakdown resulting from constant ExecutiveMeddling. The MerchandiseDriven nature of the series resulted in an ongoing CastHerd, and he grew tired of having to constantly incorporate new characters (the ''Headmasters'' miniseries alone had to introduce [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters over ''sixty'']]) and drop old plot points. It really showed in his writing; past that point, plots and dialogue became incoherent and writing got worse. Towards the end, he killed off [[KillEmAll over fifty characters in one issue]], which failed to even really dent the horde. Five issues later, he left the book to Simon Furman, who'd go on to put out some of his best work.
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