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12th Mar '17 9:09:16 PM KBABZ
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* ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'' suffered from this with the three games released after ''[[RatchetAndClankFutureACrackInTime A Crack in Time]]'', primarily the first being a linear co-op title and the second focusing on tower defense mechanics, driving away existing fans and tanking its relevance to gamers at large. While ''[[RatchetAndClankIntoTheNexus Into the Nexus]]'' returned to traditional gameplay, it wasn't until [[RatchetAndClank2016 the 2016 game]] that the series hit its stride once more and resonated beyond its hardcore audience.
7th Mar '17 4:47:53 AM PDL
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** All of the arcs after the Orange Islands have taken flak for running on longer than necessary, though Johto and Unova take more flak than most.

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** All of the arcs after the Orange Islands have taken flak for running on longer than necessary, though necessary. This is mostly due to the fact that there is usually a gap of 3 years between the release of new games and the games themselves have maybe 6 to 9 months worth of content without fillers or additional storylines invented for the anime. Though Johto and Unova take more flak than most.
25th Feb '17 1:54:00 PM Fighteer
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** Some in the fandom will say that the high point was reached around ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedII'', and that everything from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedBrotherhood'' onward was downhill.
23rd Feb '17 4:36:01 PM DeanMT94
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** Some in the fandom will say that the high point was reached around ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedII'', and that everything from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedBrotherhood'' onward was downhill.
23rd Feb '17 4:34:04 PM DeanMT94
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23rd Feb '17 8:23:41 AM PDL
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** All of the arcs after the Orange Islands have taken flak for running on longer than necessary, though Johto and Sinnoh take more flak than Hoenn due to ArcFatigue; Hoenn was shorter in order to make room for Battle Frontier (which, due to good pacing, was actually well-received).

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** All of the arcs after the Orange Islands have taken flak for running on longer than necessary, though Johto and Sinnoh Unova take more flak than Hoenn due to ArcFatigue; Hoenn was shorter in order to make room for Battle Frontier (which, due to good pacing, was actually well-received). most.



** The Unova arc ended up rotting as well. It started with decent pacing and subdivisions for story arcs, which actually continued on to the TournamentArc. Unfortunately, things began slipping once the 2011 Tohoku-Fukushima disaster hit, and a two-parter was pulled [[TooSoon to avoid encountering criticism]], though it was still well-received for the remainder of the next year. Then ''Black 2 & White 2'' created an [[ExecutiveMeddling executive-mandated revamp of the arc, and it officially all fell apart.]] There were good spots, like when WhatCouldHaveBeen Johto's Celebi Arc (but with Meloetta instead) was made, but the big League Tournament itself was almost universally reviled for making the the poor decision of having TheScrappy, an excruciatingly dopey boy named Cameron, knock out not just fan-favorite Bianca but Ash himself as well, making this his fifth tournament loss and thus ruining all momentum built up yet again. The Plasma arc afterward distilled a lot of the moral debates and ideals of the games and has ''massive'' amounts of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, and the arc after that, featuring Ash and co. island-hopping in the Decalore Archipelago, [[FillerArc is nothing but filler]], with a ton of plots unashamedly [[RecycledScript recycled]] from the series' extensive history and filled with shameless advertising for the then-upcoming ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''.
** The third and final season of the ''XY'' series, ''XY&Z'' has also come under fire by some of the BrokenBase, even from fans of the ''XY'' series. Despite a very well-liked [[ArcVillain arc centered around Team Flare]], it is criticized for Serena's Master Class episodes being badly written, Ash-Greninja ending up as a ShaggyDogStory, Team Rocket reverting back to a GoldfishPoopGang that appears too much, elements carried over from the Mega Evolution specials being mishandled, [[spoiler: Ash losing at the Kalos League]], and the last episode rushing Serena, Clemont and Bonnie's goodbyes and having flashbacks take up half of the running time.
** The Sun & Moon saga has come under fire for its more cartoonish redesigns of the characters, especially Ash, and the [[GenreShift shift in genre]] to a [[DenserAndWackier school-based comedy]] has been blasted by many as a cheap attempt to [[FollowTheLeader compete with]] ''Anime/YoKaiWatch''.

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** The Unova arc series ended up rotting as well. It started with decent pacing and subdivisions for story arcs, which actually continued on to the TournamentArc. Unfortunately, things began slipping once the 2011 Tohoku-Fukushima disaster hit, and a two-parter was pulled [[TooSoon to avoid encountering criticism]], though it was still well-received for the remainder of the next year. Then ''Black 2 & White 2'' created an [[ExecutiveMeddling executive-mandated revamp of the arc, and it officially all fell apart.]] There were good spots, like when WhatCouldHaveBeen Johto's Celebi Arc (but with Meloetta instead) was made, and the Battle Club Tournament arcs where a number of reoccurring characters battled and interacted with each other, but the big League Tournament itself was almost universally reviled for making the the poor decision of having TheScrappy, an excruciatingly dopey boy named Cameron, knock out not just fan-favorite Bianca but Ash himself as well, making this his fifth tournament loss and thus ruining all momentum built up yet again. The Plasma arc afterward distilled a lot of the moral debates and ideals of the games and has ''massive'' amounts of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, and the arc after that, featuring Ash and co. island-hopping in the Decalore Archipelago, [[FillerArc is nothing but filler]], with a ton of plots unashamedly [[RecycledScript recycled]] from the series' extensive history and filled with shameless advertising for the then-upcoming ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''. \n** The third [[ArcFatigue Needless to say, people were quite relieved when the Black and final season of the ''XY'' series, ''XY&Z'' has also come under fire by some of the BrokenBase, even from fans of the ''XY'' series. Despite a very well-liked [[ArcVillain arc centered around Team Flare]], it is criticized for Serena's Master Class episodes being badly written, Ash-Greninja ending up as a ShaggyDogStory, Team Rocket reverting back to a GoldfishPoopGang that appears too much, elements carried over from the Mega Evolution specials being mishandled, [[spoiler: Ash losing at the Kalos League]], and the last episode rushing Serena, Clemont and Bonnie's goodbyes and having flashbacks take up half of the running time.
** The Sun & Moon
White saga has come under fire for its more cartoonish redesigns of the characters, especially Ash, and the [[GenreShift shift in genre]] to a [[DenserAndWackier school-based comedy]] has been blasted by many as a cheap attempt to [[FollowTheLeader compete with]] ''Anime/YoKaiWatch''.ended]].
23rd Feb '17 8:13:25 AM MyFinalEdits
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** Some in the fandom will say that the pinnacle of the series was as early as ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedII'', and that from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedBrotherhood'' onward it was all downhill.
23rd Feb '17 8:06:10 AM DeanMT94
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* ''VideoGame/Stronghold'': It's a matter of debate among fans whether ''Stronghold'', ''Stronghold Crusader'' or ''Stronghold 2'' is better, but at least all three are widely praised as good games. From ''Legends'' on, however, the series has been almost universally panned, by both critics and gamers.
23rd Feb '17 7:47:00 AM DeanMT94
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** Some in the fandom will say that the pinnacle of the series was as early as ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedII'', and that from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedBrotherhood'' onward it was all downhill.
17th Feb '17 12:36:19 PM BulletproofLlama
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** The Sun & Moon saga has come under fire for its more cartoonish redesigns of the characters, especially Ash, and the [[GenreShift shift in genre]] to a [[DenserAndWackier school-based comedy]] has been blasted by many as a cheap attempt to [[FollowTheLeader compete with]] ''Anime/YoKaiWatch''.
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