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14th Jun '18 8:44:05 AM PDL
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** The third and final season of the ''XY'' series, ''XY&Z'', is an unique case in that the season as a whole is still relatively [[DownplayedTrope well-liked]] with several of the anime's best moments coming from it, there were also a number of questionable decisions made near the end, namely [[spoiler:[[InternetBackdraft Ash's loss to Alain]] and releasing Greninja]].
14th Jun '18 8:40:22 AM Loekman3
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* The period of the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series between ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' and ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII''. Not only was the wait for ''[=KH3=]'' excruciatingly long, but [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsCoded all]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDreamDropDistance of]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsX the]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts02BirthBySleepAFragmentaryPassage games]] that were released in that time-span (that weren't repackaged HD versions of previous games) were more controversial than any of the games released before them, creating massive, widespread instances of BrokenBase, TheChrisCarterEffect, and DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.

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* The period of the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series between ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' and ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII''. Not only was the wait for ''[=KH3=]'' excruciatingly long, but [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsCoded all]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDreamDropDistance of]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsX the]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts02BirthBySleepAFragmentaryPassage games]] that were released in that time-span (that weren't repackaged HD versions of previous games) were more controversial than any of the games released before them, creating massive, widespread instances of BrokenBase, TheChrisCarterEffect, and DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.DarknessInducedAudienceApathy along with the losing relevance of both Disney and Final Fantasy characters despite it being the main selling point of the franchise.
11th Jun '18 12:53:17 PM Smash641
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* Some say ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' started decreasing in quality after its VideoGame3DLeap with the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 duology]], which hit the PolygonCeiling with its increased use of GameplayRoulette with various characters (most notoriously with Big the Cat and [[ScrappyMechanic his fishing gameplay]] from the first ''Adventure'' game) and having less-polished gameplay compared to the Genesis titles; or ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes'' for its slippery controls and [[FakeLongevity overly repetitive]] gameplay. However, most will agree that the series really began to rot with ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'' thanks to constant rush jobs, as well as the developments that ultimately doomed ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006''. The series showed considerable improvements starting with ''VideoGame/SonicColors'', but it's in a strange spot right now after the utter failure of Sega's attempt to "westernize" the franchise with the ''VideoGame/SonicBoom'' spin-off titles (in contrast to the [[WesternAnimation/SonicBoom TV series]], which has been an overall success).

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* Some say ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' started decreasing in quality after its VideoGame3DLeap with the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 duology]], which hit the PolygonCeiling with its increased use of GameplayRoulette with various characters (most notoriously with Big the Cat and [[ScrappyMechanic his fishing gameplay]] from the first ''Adventure'' game) and having less-polished gameplay compared to the Genesis titles; or ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes'' for its slippery controls and [[FakeLongevity overly repetitive]] gameplay. However, most will agree that the series really began to rot with ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'' thanks to constant rush jobs, as well as the developments that ultimately doomed ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006''. The series showed considerable improvements starting with ''VideoGame/SonicColors'', but it's in a strange spot right now after the utter failure of Sega's attempt to "westernize" the franchise with the ''VideoGame/SonicBoom'' spin-off titles (in contrast to the [[WesternAnimation/SonicBoom TV series]], which has been an overall success).success), the massive success of ''VideoGame/SonicMania'', and the mixed reception of ''VideoGame/SonicForces'', it's really hard to describe the current state of the series.
7th Jun '18 11:41:50 AM Isaac_Heller
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* The period of the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series between ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthbySleep'' and ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII''. Not only was the wait for ''[=KH3=]'' excruciatingly long, but [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsCoded all]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDreamDropDistance of]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsX the]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts02BirthBySleepAFragmentaryPassage games]] that were released in that time-span (that weren't repackaged HD versions of previous games) were more controversial than any of the games released before them, creating massive instances of BrokenBase, TheChrisCarterEffect, and DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.

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* The period of the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series between ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthbySleep'' ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' and ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII''. Not only was the wait for ''[=KH3=]'' excruciatingly long, but [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsCoded all]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDreamDropDistance of]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsX the]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts02BirthBySleepAFragmentaryPassage games]] that were released in that time-span (that weren't repackaged HD versions of previous games) were more controversial than any of the games released before them, creating massive massive, widespread instances of BrokenBase, TheChrisCarterEffect, and DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
7th Jun '18 11:39:31 AM Isaac_Heller
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* The period of the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series between ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthbySleep'' and ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII''. Not only was the wait for ''[=KH3=]'' excruciatingly long, but [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsCoded all]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDropDropDistance of]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsX the]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts02BirthBySleepAFragmentaryPassage released]] in that time-span (that weren't repackaged HD versions of previous games) were more controversial than any of the games released before them, creating massive instances of BrokenBase, TheChrisCarterEffect, and DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.

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* The period of the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series between ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthbySleep'' and ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII''. Not only was the wait for ''[=KH3=]'' excruciatingly long, but [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsCoded all]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDropDropDistance [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDreamDropDistance of]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsX the]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts02BirthBySleepAFragmentaryPassage released]] games]] that were released in that time-span (that weren't repackaged HD versions of previous games) were more controversial than any of the games released before them, creating massive instances of BrokenBase, TheChrisCarterEffect, and DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
7th Jun '18 11:38:40 AM Isaac_Heller
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* The period of the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series between ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthbySleep'' and ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII''. Not only was the wait for ''[=KH3=]'' excruciatingly long, but [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsCoded all]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDropDropDistance of]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsX the]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts02BirthBySleepAFragmentaryPassage released]] in that time-span (that weren't repackaged HD versions of previous games) were more controversial than any of the games released before them, creating massive instances of BrokenBase, TheChrisCarterEffect, and DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
7th Jun '18 11:28:25 AM Isaac_Heller
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** Funnily enough, despite both Johto and Unova generally being considered the show's weakest eras, ''where'' the rot sets in for them is the opposite. For example, while Johto's beginning and middle sections are widely perceived as uneventful and moving at a snail's pace, the last third (featuring well-received moments like the Larvitar arc, Ash defeating Gary at the Silver Conference, and the original trio's [[TearJerker emotional]] [[TheFellowshipHasEnded farewell]] in ''Gotta Catch Ya Later!'') is widely viewed as an improvement. In contrast, Unova is widely considered to ''start out'' as promising, addressing many fan complaints (Team Rocket's incompetence, Ash not catching enough Pokemon) head-on, but it quickly squanders this potential, that by the time of Decalore Islands the season was viewed by many as irredeemable.

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** Funnily enough, despite both Johto and Unova generally being considered the show's weakest eras, ''where'' the rot sets in for them is the opposite. For example, while Johto's beginning and middle sections are widely perceived as uneventful and moving at a snail's pace, the last third (featuring well-received moments like the Larvitar arc, Ash defeating Gary at the Silver Conference, and the original trio's [[TearJerker emotional]] [[TheFellowshipHasEnded farewell]] in ''Gotta Catch Ya Later!'') is widely viewed as an improvement. In contrast, Unova is widely considered to ''start out'' as promising, addressing many fan complaints (Team Rocket's incompetence, Ash not catching enough Pokemon) head-on, but it quickly squanders starts squandering this potential, potential around the middle, so that by the time of Decalore Islands the season was viewed by many as irredeemable.
7th Jun '18 11:27:20 AM Isaac_Heller
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** All of the arcs after the Orange Islands have taken flak for running on longer than necessary. This is mostly due to the fact that there is usually a gap of 3-4 years between the release of new games and the games themselves have maybe 9 months to a year's worth of content without fillers or additional storylines invented for the anime. Though Johto and Unova take more flak than most.
** The Johto series suffered particularly because [[WhatCouldHaveBeen an entire storyline involving Celebi had been planned then scrapped,]] leaving the writers with a vast hole to plug with filler episodes. The result was a very long and tiresome series with ''loads'' of Characters of the Day and generally uneventful/boring episodes that contributed nothing to the larger plot.
** The ''Black and White'' series started with decent enough pacing, but things began slipping once the 2011 Tohoku-Fukushima disaster hit, and a two-parter with Team Plasma was pulled [[TooSoon to avoid encountering criticism]]. Despite this, it was still well-received... then ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' created an [[ExecutiveMeddling executive-mandated revamp of the arc]], and it officially all fell apart. There were good spots (such as the Meloetta arc and the Battle Club arcs), but the big League Tournament itself was almost universally reviled for making Ash lose ([[FailureIsTheOnlyOption again]]) to [[AmericansHateTingle Cameron]]. ''Episode N'' made the [[KnightTemplar morally-complex]] N and Team Plasma much more {{black and white|Morality}} and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot wasted potential storylines]], and the final arc was [[FillerArc purely filler]] with no goal for the heroes to achieve, with a ton of plots unashamedly [[RecycledScript recycled]] from the series' extensive history and filled with advertising for the then-upcoming ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''. [[ArcFatigue People were quite relieved when the series ended]].

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** All of the arcs Pretty much everything after the Orange Islands have taken flak for running on longer than necessary. This is mostly due to the fact that there is usually Kanto has a gap fair share of 3-4 years between the release of new games and the games themselves have maybe 9 months to a year's worth of content without fillers or additional storylines invented for the anime. Though Johto and Unova take more flak than most.
** The Johto series suffered particularly because [[WhatCouldHaveBeen an entire storyline involving Celebi had been planned then scrapped,]] leaving the writers
detractors, with a vast hole to plug with filler episodes. The result was a very long and tiresome series with ''loads'' of Characters of the Day and generally uneventful/boring episodes that contributed nothing to the larger plot.
** The ''Black and White'' series started with decent enough pacing, but things began slipping once the 2011 Tohoku-Fukushima disaster hit, and a two-parter with Team Plasma was pulled [[TooSoon to avoid encountering criticism]]. Despite this, it was still well-received... then ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' created an [[ExecutiveMeddling executive-mandated revamp of the arc]], and it officially all fell apart. There were good spots (such as the Meloetta arc and the Battle Club arcs), but the big League Tournament itself was almost universally reviled for making Ash lose ([[FailureIsTheOnlyOption again]]) to [[AmericansHateTingle Cameron]]. ''Episode N'' made the [[KnightTemplar morally-complex]] N and Team Plasma much more {{black and white|Morality}} and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot wasted potential storylines]], and the final arc was [[FillerArc purely filler]] with no goal for the heroes to achieve, with a ton of plots unashamedly
most common complaints being ExecutiveMeddling, [[RecycledScript recycled]] recycled plots]] or lack of major character development for Ash and Team Rocket. The eras most commonly accused of this, however, are Johto (too much {{Filler}} resulting in poor pacing, Brock and Misty's characters began to stagnate, and Ash's Johto team, aside from [[ClingyJealousGirl Bayleef]], wasn't very well-fleshed out in comparison to his original Kanto team) and Black & White/Unova (Ash lost all his character development and reverted back to being a naïve IdiotHero, Cilan and especially Iris were poorly received and viewed as [[PoorMansSubstitute inferior copies]] for Brock and Misty, the series' extensive history League storyline was mishandled, the Team Plasma story arc was too short, Charizard's return was a wasted opportunity, and filled Decalore Islands was essentially an entire arc of {{Filler}} that made Johto look eventful).
** Funnily enough, despite both Johto and Unova generally being considered the show's weakest eras, ''where'' the rot sets in for them is the opposite. For example, while Johto's beginning and middle sections are widely perceived as uneventful and moving at a snail's pace, the last third (featuring well-received moments like the Larvitar arc, Ash defeating Gary at the Silver Conference, and the original trio's [[TearJerker emotional]] [[TheFellowshipHasEnded farewell]] in ''Gotta Catch Ya Later!'') is widely viewed as an improvement. In contrast, Unova is widely considered to ''start out'' as promising, addressing many fan complaints (Team Rocket's incompetence, Ash not catching enough Pokemon) head-on, but it quickly squanders this potential, that by the time of Decalore Islands the season was viewed by many as irredeemable.
** The third and final season of the ''XY'' series, ''XY&Z'', is an unique case in that the season as a whole is still relatively [[DownplayedTrope well-liked]]
with advertising for several of the then-upcoming ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''. [[ArcFatigue People anime's best moments coming from it, there were quite relieved when also a number of questionable decisions made near the series ended]].end, namely [[spoiler:[[InternetBackdraft Ash's loss to Alain]] and releasing Greninja]].
2nd Jun '18 1:40:07 PM Aipom-pom
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* Volume 5 of ''{{WebAnimation/RWBY}}'' is considered by many fans as inferior to the previous ones for different reasons, mainly the lack of action and the over-reliance on exposition that slows the narrative. This resulted in complaints from a part of the fandom while the reviews are mixed at best.
18th May '18 1:55:32 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ''Anime/DogDays'' has its second and third seasons, which are generally too busy [[ClothingDamage stripping the]] [[{{Fanservice}} female cast naked]] to focus on the cute and charming characters or the overarching plotline that made the first season so enjoyable. This can be especially uncomfortable for some viewers given [[{{Lolicon}} how young most of the girls look]]. One reviewer even compared the first season to a serious VisualNovel with the latter two being the bonus discs with all the pervy extra content.

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* ''Anime/DogDays'' has its second and third seasons, which are generally too busy [[ClothingDamage stripping the]] [[{{Fanservice}} female cast naked]] to focus on the cute and charming characters or the overarching plotline that made the first season so enjoyable. This can be especially uncomfortable for some viewers given [[{{Lolicon}} [[LoliconAndShotacon how young most of the girls look]]. One reviewer even compared the first season to a serious VisualNovel with the latter two being the bonus discs with all the pervy extra content.
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