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9th Jun '16 10:44:06 PM bowserbros
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* It's generally agreed upon by fans that ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' took a noticeable decline in quality after the conclusion of the Hokuto Brothers arc, which served as the major story for the manga at that point. While the Jakoh, Shura, and Bolge arcs weren't terrible, they're seen as mediocre compared to what came before it as a result of it being a PostScriptSeason and the arcs after between the Shura & Bolge arcs were considered the nadir of the storyline in terms of quality. To elaborate, the arcs after [[spoiler:Raoh's]] defeat relied mainly on rehashing previous story elements, placing increasingly greater emphasis on the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil and [[KiAttacks Ki Attacks]] (though not to the extent that ''Manga/DragonBall'' took it), and in the arcs after the Shura one, relegating Kenshiro to the sidelines so that he could give an {{Anvilicious}} moral lesson to the villains and [[spoiler:pull a BigDamnHeroes]] moment at the conclusion of the Bolge arc. Because of this, most adaptations of the manga only go up to the end of the Hokuto Brothers arc, with only ''Fist of the North Star 2'' and several video games touching what came after (and even then, ''Fist of the North Star 2'' ended with the Shura arc rather than adapting anything past that).

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* It's generally agreed upon by fans that ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' took a noticeable decline in quality after the conclusion of the Hokuto Brothers arc, which served as the major story for focus of the manga at that point. manga's story. While the Jakoh, Shura, and Bolge arcs weren't terrible, they're seen as mediocre compared to what came before it as a result of it being a PostScriptSeason PostScriptSeason, and the arcs after between the Shura & Bolge arcs were are heavily considered the nadir of the storyline in terms of quality. To elaborate, the arcs after [[spoiler:Raoh's]] defeat relied mainly on rehashing previous story elements, hastily [[{{Retcon}} retconning]] several elements of the manga, placing increasingly greater emphasis on the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil and [[KiAttacks Ki Attacks]] (though not to the extent that other shonen comics such as ''Manga/DragonBall'' took it), and in the arcs after the Shura one, relegating Kenshiro to the sidelines so that he could give an {{Anvilicious}} moral lesson to the villains and [[spoiler:pull a BigDamnHeroes]] moment BigDamnHeroes moment]] at the conclusion of the Bolge arc. Because of this, most adaptations of the manga only go up to the end of the Hokuto Brothers arc, with only ''Fist of the North Star 2'' and several video games touching what came after (and even then, ''Fist of the North Star 2'' ended with the Shura arc rather than adapting anything past that).
9th Jun '16 10:38:36 PM bowserbros
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* It's generally agreed upon by fans that ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' took a noticeable decline in quality after the conclusion of the Hokuto Brothers arc, which served as the major story for the manga at that point. While the Jakoh, Shura, and Bolge arcs weren't terrible, they're seen as mediocre compared to what came before it as a result of it being a PostScriptSeason and the arcs after between the Shura & Bolge arcs were considered the nadir of the storyline in terms of quality. To elaborate, the arcs after [[spoiler:Raoh's]] defeat relied mainly on rehashing previous story elements, placing increasingly greater emphasis on the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil and [[KiAttacks Ki Attacks]] (though not to the extent that ''Manga/DragonBall'' took it), and in the arcs after the Shura one, relegating Kenshiro to the sidelines so that he could give an {{Anvilicious}} moral lesson to the villains and [[spoiler:pull a BigDamnHeroes]] moment at the conclusion of the Bolge arc. Because of this, most adaptations of the manga only go up to the end of the Hokuto Brothers arc, with only ''Fist of the North Star 2'' and several video games touching what came after (and even then, ''Fist of the North Star 2'' ended with the Shura arc rather than adapting anything past that).
5th Jun '16 9:24:51 PM DoctorNemesis
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** The site's editors can also be perceived as aggressive and dismissive towards their readers and their complaints, particularly when any of the above points are raised. While the site's comment sections and forums aren't entirely free of FanDumb and HateDumb either, even well-meaning and constructive criticism can be met with unnecessary hostility -- for example, [[http://forums.cracked.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=83873 this post]] expressing polite criticism regarding the site's approach towards "Photoplasty" articles, only to be met with a highly sarcastic response from the site's executive editor.
5th Jun '16 5:55:29 PM CynicalPeafowl
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* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'': Although some fans claim that the rot had begun as early as Wrath of the Lich King or even The Burning Crusade, the common consensus amongst players is Cataclysm was the beginning of WoW's rot, as it marked the beginning of the subscription decline, due to the story's intense focus on Thrall punctuated by a content drought after the Dragon Soul raid lasting 10 months , some believe that Mists of Pandaria was a step in the right direction in terms of game play and endgame content, but after 5.3 and the lack of content then, followed by 5.4 which led to another content drought lasting 13 months and the lacklustre Warlords of Draenor which had one content patch, and then a content drought that's lasted 14 months.
30th May '16 7:52:32 PM Midna
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** An emphasis on click-bait titles. To make it worse, for many articles the titles will change several times within hours of them being originally published, often in ways that don't really reflect the article content, apparently just to find a title which is going to get the most clicks. Starting in early 2016, certain article titles began to eschew the number of entries or even critical elements of the article itself in favor of vague statements or casual remarks/questions addressed directly to the reader (i.e. "Mind If We Explain (And Then Ruin) Your Favorite Songs?"), which many have noticed skews even closer to the [=BuzzFeed=] style of click-hungry writing that Cracked itself was once critical of.

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** An emphasis on click-bait titles. To make it worse, for many articles the titles will change several times within hours of them being originally published, often in ways that don't really reflect the article content, apparently just to find a title which is going to get the most clicks. Starting in early 2016, certain article titles began to eschew the number of entries or even critical elements of the article itself in favor of vague statements or casual remarks/questions addressed directly to the reader (i.e.(e.g. "Mind If We Explain (And Then Ruin) Your Favorite Songs?"), which many have noticed skews even closer to the [=BuzzFeed=] style of click-hungry writing that Cracked itself was once critical of.
30th May '16 10:21:13 AM Midna
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** An emphasis on click-bait titles. To make it worse, for several articles the titles will change several times within hours of them being originally published, often in ways that don't really reflect the article content, apparently just to find a title which is going to get the most clicks.

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** An emphasis on click-bait titles. To make it worse, for several many articles the titles will change several times within hours of them being originally published, often in ways that don't really reflect the article content, apparently just to find a title which is going to get the most clicks.clicks. Starting in early 2016, certain article titles began to eschew the number of entries or even critical elements of the article itself in favor of vague statements or casual remarks/questions addressed directly to the reader (i.e. "Mind If We Explain (And Then Ruin) Your Favorite Songs?"), which many have noticed skews even closer to the [=BuzzFeed=] style of click-hungry writing that Cracked itself was once critical of.
27th May '16 1:37:48 PM pointycatears
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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': While Act 5 was widely considered the place where the webcomic grew the beard, Act 6 featured completely new characters that ''weren't'' as overall fanbase-expandingly popular as the trolls were and generally [[BaseBreaker even more divisive]], very very long sub-acts (and [[UpToEleven sub-sub acts]]!) causing EndingFatigue, a very long RomanticPlotTumour causing unnecessary drama between the new kids, and more [[InvincibleVillain villains that are so powerful they make you consider]] [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy whether these kids even have a ghost of a chance]], as well as a bunch of [[DudeNotFunny jokes that were either too dark to be humourous or just plain considered to be in bad taste]]. It took years for the original kids to finally meet up with their new counterparts, and even when that happened it took many more months in real time for them to actually get on to fighting these new villains. Its ending animation and the following Act 7 were both well received visually[[note]]The former for being an action-packed, 18 minute long fighting sequence and the latter for its very high-quality visual details and smooth animation[[/note]], but also got some story-related criticism for leaving a lot of plotlines to seemingly end abruptly (something the author intends to fix with an additional epilogue) and for the eventual victory for the heroes to have just been brought on by anti-climactically [[spoiler:making a new timeline where an intentional Base Breaker character was brought back and everything went almost perfectly according to plan]].

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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': While Act 5 was widely considered the place where the webcomic grew the beard, Act 6 featured completely new characters that ''weren't'' as overall fanbase-expandingly popular as the trolls were and generally [[BaseBreaker even more divisive]], very very long sub-acts (and [[UpToEleven sub-sub acts]]!) causing EndingFatigue, a very long RomanticPlotTumour causing unnecessary drama between the new kids, and more [[InvincibleVillain villains that are so powerful they make you consider]] [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy whether these kids even have a ghost of a chance]], as well as a bunch of [[DudeNotFunny jokes that were either too dark to be humourous or just plain considered to be in bad taste]]. It took years for the original kids to finally meet up with their new counterparts, and even when that happened it took many more months in real time for them to actually get on to fighting these new villains. Its ending animation and the following Act 7 were both well received visually[[note]]The former for being an action-packed, 18 minute long fighting sequence and the latter for its very high-quality visual details and smooth animation[[/note]], but also got some story-related criticism [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse for leaving a lot of plotlines to seemingly end abruptly abruptly]] (something the author intends to fix with an additional epilogue) and for the eventual victory for the heroes to have just been brought on by anti-climactically [[spoiler:making a new timeline where an intentional Base Breaker BaseBreaker character was brought back and lost all their character development along with some of the other characters, and everything went almost perfectly according to plan]].
23rd May '16 3:56:44 PM MarcoPolo250
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* Some say ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' started getting stale after the ''VideoGame/Sonic3andKnuckles'' mark, with reviewers noting that the whole "Chaos Emeralds get stolen ''again''" plot to be [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks very samey]]. However, most will agree that the series really began to rot with ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'' thanks to constant rush jobs, as well as the development hell that ultimately doomed ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006''. The series showed considerable improvements starting with ''VideoGame/SonicColors'', but it's in a strange spot right now after the utter failure that was ''VideoGame/SonicBoom'' (Not to be confused with the [[WesternAnimation/SonicBoom TV series]] which has been an overall success).

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* Some say ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' started getting stale after the ''VideoGame/Sonic3andKnuckles'' mark, with reviewers noting that the whole "Chaos Emeralds get stolen ''again''" plot to be [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks very samey]]. However, most will agree that the series really began to rot with ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'' thanks to constant rush jobs, as well as the development hell that ultimately doomed ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006''. The series showed considerable improvements starting with ''VideoGame/SonicColors'', but it's in a strange spot right now after the utter failure that was of ''VideoGame/SonicBoom'' (Not to be confused with "westernize" the franchise. (In contast to the [[WesternAnimation/SonicBoom TV series]] series]], which has been an overall success).
20th May '16 7:11:33 AM erforce
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*** The last episode was particularly notable for this, being a blatant ShoutOut to ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'' and famously consisting of, to quote a fansite, "twenty minutes of filler, a minute of eyecatches, and the entire plot crammed into the ending theme." To say nothing of the episode a few earlier that was a [[Anime/SpeedRacer rather gimmicky race...]]

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*** The last episode was particularly notable for this, being a blatant ShoutOut to ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'' ''Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}'' and famously consisting of, to quote a fansite, "twenty minutes of filler, a minute of eyecatches, and the entire plot crammed into the ending theme." To say nothing of the episode a few earlier that was a [[Anime/SpeedRacer rather gimmicky race...]]
17th May '16 4:31:56 AM KlawKalash
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* Most fans of ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' will tell you that the series started to decline in quality immediately after Creator/BrianKVaughan left, but the rot really started to set in when the series was rebooted under Creator/TerryMoore and Creator/HumbertoRamos. Moore had a limited grasp of the characters' personalities and couldn't find the proper balance between comedy and drama, and Ramos' cartoonish style was not very flattering to the non-white members of the cast and did not mesh very well with a story arc that saw Karolina and Xavin being accused of genocide (and [[spoiler:Xavin ultimately handing themselves over to the antagonists to answer for their supposed crimes]].) Things improved when Moore and Ramos left, but the series was eventually cancelled in 2009.

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* Most fans of ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' will tell you that the series started to decline in quality immediately after Creator/BrianKVaughan left, but the rot really started to set in when the series was rebooted under Creator/TerryMoore and Creator/HumbertoRamos.Humberto Ramos. Moore had a limited grasp of the characters' personalities and couldn't find the proper balance between comedy and drama, and Ramos' cartoonish style was not very flattering to the non-white members of the cast and did not mesh very well with a story arc that saw Karolina and Xavin being accused of genocide (and [[spoiler:Xavin ultimately handing themselves over to the antagonists to answer for their supposed crimes]].) Things improved when Moore and Ramos left, but the series was eventually cancelled in 2009.
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