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3rd May '16 12:57:16 PM Xodiarc
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* Seen in ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]'' in a boss battle at Joke's End. When Jojora asks the Mario Bros. which of her friends should come (and beat the crap out of them, presumably), the player is given the choice of four different names, which seem to refer to four different possible enemies. However, no matter which one you pick, Jojora's friend will look and fight exactly the same. The only thing your choice really affects is what name the battle display refers to her as.

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* Seen in ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]'' in a boss battle at Joke's End. When Jojora asks the Mario Bros. which of her friends should come (and beat the crap out of them, presumably), the player is given the choice of four different names, which seem to refer to four different possible enemies. However, no matter which one you pick, Jojora's friend will look and fight exactly the same. The only thing your choice really affects is what name the battle display refers to her as.as, as well as if you have a chance at a hidden item.
1st May '16 7:11:16 PM Grobi
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* In ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic II'', you can answer various questions about past events, such as Revan's fate in the first game and the color of the lightsaber the Jedi Council took away from you, and the answers retroactively determine what happened.

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* In ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic II'', ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'', you can answer various questions about past events, such as Revan's fate in the first game and the color of the lightsaber the Jedi Council took away from you, and the answers retroactively determine what happened.
13th Apr '16 6:25:02 AM Morgenthaler
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** Rampant in the ''Literature/{{Goosebumps}}'' ChooseYourOwnAdventure books. There'll at the very least be a major choice near the beginning that divides the book in half (say, try to give the magic book back or try to hide it), and the entire setup, the very nature of the situation you're in, will be completely different depending on which you choose. Then other decisions will cause the same thing to happen on a smaller scale. Worst, often there'll be a situation in which you have a single decision where both lead to a quick death and an unhappy end, but the nature of what was putting you in danger is not the same depending on which you pick.

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** * Rampant in the ''Literature/{{Goosebumps}}'' ChooseYourOwnAdventure ''Literature/GiveYourselfGoosebumps'' books. There'll at the very least be a major choice near the beginning that divides the book in half (say, try to give the magic book back or try to hide it), and the entire setup, the very nature of the situation you're in, will be completely different depending on which you choose. Then other decisions will cause the same thing to happen on a smaller scale. Worst, often there'll be a situation in which you have a single decision where both lead to a quick death and an unhappy end, but the nature of what was putting you in danger is not the same depending on which you pick.
13th Apr '16 6:24:27 AM Morgenthaler
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** When the final Cylon is revealed as [[spoiler: Ellen Tigh]], the niggling details are explained. [[spoiler: Cavil, the first humanoid Cylon they built, killed them, blocked their memories and placed them on the Colonies to witness the coming genocide.]] The "oldest" among them has been explained in official statements as [[spoiler: not having served in the first Cylon war, Saul just ''thinks'' he did, a service record was probably forged by Cavil.]]
** They're still Schodinger's Hit-squad when you realize that two of the four were unplanned additions to the cast, which means that there is literally no way their reveals were planned out from the start of the show. They even had to {{Retcon}} that [[spoiler: Nicki isn't a half cylon, Cally apparently slept with Hot Dog. The producers even admitted it was their biggest problem when picking Chief as a Cylon.]]
** They've since added [[spoiler: a 13th (well, actually the 7th) Cylon named Daniel. His clones were "corrupted" by Cavil, meaning they're either dead or transformed/transplanted into someone else, bringing it back to "Anyone could be a Cylon".]]
13th Apr '16 6:23:26 AM Morgenthaler
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** And now with the final Cylon revealed as [[spoiler: Ellen Tigh]], the niggling details are explained. [[spoiler: Cavil, the first humanoid Cylon they built, killed them, blocked their memories and placed them on the Colonies to witness the coming genocide.]] The "oldest" among them has been explained in official statements as [[spoiler: not having served in the first Cylon war, Saul just ''thinks'' he did, a service record was probably forged by Cavil.]]

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** And now with When the final Cylon is revealed as [[spoiler: Ellen Tigh]], the niggling details are explained. [[spoiler: Cavil, the first humanoid Cylon they built, killed them, blocked their memories and placed them on the Colonies to witness the coming genocide.]] The "oldest" among them has been explained in official statements as [[spoiler: not having served in the first Cylon war, Saul just ''thinks'' he did, a service record was probably forged by Cavil.]]
13th Apr '16 6:22:51 AM Morgenthaler
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* As a nod to the pre-written victory/concession speeches from RealLife below, TheWestWing final season election had Santos' speechwriter do these, then additional permutations (won but lost home state, lost but won home state, etc.) were brought up for the contingency speech list...

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* As a nod to the pre-written victory/concession speeches from RealLife below, TheWestWing ''Series/TheWestWing'':
** The
final season election had Santos' speechwriter do these, then additional permutations (won but lost home state, lost but won home state, etc.) were brought up for the contingency speech list...



** ''TheWestWing,'' being a show about politicians and elections, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4rigI3FkwE mentioned this.]]
13th Apr '16 6:21:52 AM Morgenthaler
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*** [[spoiler: WordOfGod shot this theory down -- Daniel's long dead, Schrödinger's gun was never fired.]]
*** [[spoiler: It still qualifies, the production team had to find a work around their earlier ad hoc numbering sequence that put the first few Cylons revealed as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 8]]
*** Which is one place where the writers really missed a golden opportunity to tie off some dangling plot threads by making [[spoiler: Starbuck the daughter of the lone surviving #7.]]
* ''Series/BabylonFive''. During production, Creator/JMichaelStraczynski planned the ''B5'' plot out for a 5-year arc. However, he also made plans for RealLifeWritesThePlot. Indeed, the show didn't even end as he had originally meant for it to end, due to changing station commanders between seasons 1 and 2, changing several major plot points. And if you were just watching the show, you probably wouldn't have noticed (much).

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*** [[spoiler: WordOfGod shot this theory down -- Daniel's long dead, Schrödinger's gun was never fired.]]
*** [[spoiler: It still qualifies, the production team had to find a work around their earlier ad hoc numbering sequence that put the first few Cylons revealed as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 8]]
*** Which is one place where the writers really missed a golden opportunity to tie off some dangling plot threads by making [[spoiler: Starbuck the daughter of the lone surviving #7.]]
* ''Series/BabylonFive''. ''Series/BabylonFive'':
**
During production, Creator/JMichaelStraczynski planned the ''B5'' plot out for a 5-year arc. However, he also made plans for RealLifeWritesThePlot. Indeed, the show didn't even end as he had originally meant for it to end, due to changing station commanders between seasons 1 and 2, changing several major plot points. And if you were just watching the show, you probably wouldn't have noticed (much).



** The obvious actor/role substitutions: Jeffrey Sinclair/John Sheridan; Carolyn Sykes/Catherine Sakai/Anna Sheridan; Laurel Takashima/Ivanova/Lockley. Minor aversion with Ivanova, as she wasn't a straight substitution. [[spoiler: Originally, Takashima was a traitor. Instead, it's Garibaldi's aide.]]
*** WordOfGod is this was done because JMS let slip that [[spoiler: Takashima would have become a traitor.]] So instead he gave that to someone else, and tossed in the occasional RedHerring regarding Ivanova for those who thought she was a straight substitution as subtle misdirection.
* Each season of ''[[Series/TwentyFour 24]]'' has lots of shots of various characters giving significant looks and suspicious glances, so when TheMole is revealed, no matter who it is the audience has already been given a lot of seemingly suspicious behavior to justify it.
** The reason why is that each season only ''starts'' with the first half of the season planned out. The rest is written on the fly.

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** The obvious actor/role substitutions: Jeffrey Sinclair/John Sheridan; Carolyn Sykes/Catherine Sakai/Anna Sheridan; Laurel Takashima/Ivanova/Lockley. Minor aversion with Ivanova, as she wasn't a straight substitution. [[spoiler: Originally, Takashima was a traitor. Instead, it's Garibaldi's aide.]]
***
]] WordOfGod is this was done because JMS let slip that [[spoiler: Takashima would have become a traitor.]] So instead he gave that to someone else, and tossed in the occasional RedHerring regarding Ivanova for those who thought she was a straight substitution as subtle misdirection.
* Each season of ''[[Series/TwentyFour 24]]'' ''Series/TwentyFour'' has lots of shots of various characters giving significant looks and suspicious glances, so when TheMole is revealed, no matter who it is the audience has already been given a lot of seemingly suspicious behavior to justify it.
** The reason why is that each season only ''starts'' with the first half of the season planned out. The rest is written on the fly.
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** [[spoiler:As things turned out, ''they'' were the ones who ended up using it for the Tenth Doctor's finale.]]
5th Mar '16 1:32:16 PM thatother1dude
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* In ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'',[[spoiler: Heathcliff reveals that he had done this mid-game with the previously unused and unobtainable skill "Dual Blades", changing it into a player unique skill in order to designate which player would have the right to try and defeat him as the endboss. While granting the Unique Skills to special players was something he planned to do all along, his cover was blown prematurely, so he had to face his challenger a lot earlier than he had planned.]]

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* In ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'',[[spoiler: Heathcliff Heathcliff]] reveals that he had done this mid-game with changed the previously unused and unobtainable skill "Dual Blades", changing it Blades" into a player unique skill in order to designate which player would have the right to try and defeat him as the endboss. While granting the Unique Skills to special players was something he planned to do all along, his cover was blown prematurely, so he had to face his challenger a lot earlier than he had planned.]]
5th Mar '16 1:30:54 PM thatother1dude
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* ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution'' has this at least on an occasion: when you rescue [[spoiler:the three scientists at Omega Ranch]], the third one will always have the [[spoiler:virus Sevchenko built]], regardless of the order you visit them.

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* ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution'' has this at least on an occasion: ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution'': when you rescue [[spoiler:the the three scientists [[spoiler:scientists at Omega Ranch]], the third one will always have the [[spoiler:virus Sevchenko built]], regardless of the order you visit them.
25th Feb '16 2:04:35 PM Morgenthaler
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* Used extensively in ''IllusionOfGaia'', due to Will's ability to guess any question correctly. It is demonstrated at the beginning of the game, where Will is asked to pick a card. No matter what the player picks, it is the right one. It resurfaces much later for a WireDilemma, where the player simply has to remember that Will is psychic and make a decision quickly.

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* Used extensively in ''IllusionOfGaia'', ''VideoGame/IllusionOfGaia'', due to Will's ability to guess any question correctly. It is demonstrated at the beginning of the game, where Will is asked to pick a card. No matter what the player picks, it is the right one. It resurfaces much later for a WireDilemma, where the player simply has to remember that Will is psychic and make a decision quickly.



* In the ''StarOcean'' games, in order to keep some kind of weird ArbitraryHeadcountLimit, you can only pick certain party members; which prevents you from getting others, who just aren't available anymore.

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* In the ''StarOcean'' ''VideoGame/StarOcean'' games, in order to keep some kind of weird ArbitraryHeadcountLimit, you can only pick certain party members; which prevents you from getting others, who just aren't available anymore.



* ''{{Drakengard}}'' has what might be the most strenuous version of this. Depending on which ending you get the very fabric of reality functions differently. Your Dragon might be the only thing that can save the world, or you may be destined to destroy her lest she destroy the world.

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* ''{{Drakengard}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Drakengard}}'' has what might be the most strenuous version of this. Depending on which ending you get the very fabric of reality functions differently. Your Dragon might be the only thing that can save the world, or you may be destined to destroy her lest she destroy the world.



* ''BaldursGate II'' has a sidequest where one of your companions returns home to find his sister has been murdered, and an investigation is still in progress. His father is convinced it was a hit from a rival and tells you to kill him in revenge. [[MortonsFork If you kill the rival, you later find out that he was innocent; if you spare him, he was guilty all along.]]

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* ''BaldursGate ''VideoGame/BaldursGate II'' has a sidequest where one of your companions returns home to find his sister has been murdered, and an investigation is still in progress. His father is convinced it was a hit from a rival and tells you to kill him in revenge. [[MortonsFork If you kill the rival, you later find out that he was innocent; if you spare him, he was guilty all along.]]



* In the FMV-based adventure game ''{{Ripper}}'' by Take2Interactive, the titular serial murderer has four possible identities, depending on how the player pursue the investigation ([[spoiler:one of them being the main character's girlfriend]]).

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* In the FMV-based adventure game ''{{Ripper}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Ripper}}'' by Take2Interactive, Creator/Take2Interactive, the titular serial murderer has four possible identities, depending on how the player pursue the investigation ([[spoiler:one of them being the main character's girlfriend]]).



* A quest in GuildWars requires the player to help the prince find a gift for his beloved. There are three items you can show him; the first two will always be rejected, no matter the order you try them in. An alternative option is to find only one of the items and hand it directly to the birthday girl, who gets pissed that the prince hired someone else to choose a gift for her.

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* A quest in GuildWars ''VideoGame/GuildWars'' requires the player to help the prince find a gift for his beloved. There are three items you can show him; the first two will always be rejected, no matter the order you try them in. An alternative option is to find only one of the items and hand it directly to the birthday girl, who gets pissed that the prince hired someone else to choose a gift for her.
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