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20th Apr '17 1:48:43 AM AlternativeCola
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** Creator/ManOfActionStudios were immune of this until the [[WesternAnimation/Ben102016 2016 reboot]] (their return to the franchise after leaving to work on SpiritualSuccessor ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'') began airing as several fans blame them for bordering heavily on slapstick and comedy than action, especially that it hasn't yet aired in the US despite given a worldwide premiere in 2016. This isn't the first time that they've become this as many ''Franchise/{{Spider-Man}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' fans have blamed the creative team for ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble''.

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** Creator/ManOfActionStudios were immune of this until the [[WesternAnimation/Ben102016 2016 reboot]] (their return to the franchise after leaving to work on SpiritualSuccessor ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'') began airing as several fans blame them for bordering heavily on slapstick and comedy than action, especially that it hasn't yet aired didn't air in the US until April 2017 despite given a worldwide premiere in October 2016. This isn't the first time that they've become this as many ''Franchise/{{Spider-Man}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' fans have blamed the creative team for ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble''.
20th Apr '17 1:44:42 AM Killerikala
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** The filmmakers usually get the flak when a character doesn't transform into a more iconic altmode. Even if we ignore that TechnologyMarchesOn, some vehicle manufacturers simply don't want their vehicles to appear in the given film; if this happens, either the character(s) are given a new name, altmode or they are cut entirely.
31st Mar '17 8:14:15 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* A lot of angry ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' fans blame the writers for the 38th episode of Season 19, which was highly anticipated since it was going to be a decisive battle for Ash, since he reached the final of Kalos League, only to [[spoiler:lose to his rival Alain, keeping the StatusQuoIsGod trope in play]].
** Not only that, many fans who have given up on the anime, have blamed the production teams for keeping the StatusQuoIsGod trope into play (as in Ash will never win a League, will never have a love interest, will always hit the ResetButton whenever he finds out about a new region, ditching the Big Three of the last in favor of the next or his Pikachu will never evolve into a Raichu) which resulted in the SeasonalRot.



* Creator/ZackSnyder has become this from detractors who were angry with ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''.
Feelings towards Snyder have become even more divisive following the release of the Ultimate Edition of the film. Fans of this cut have levied blame towards Warner Brothers for ordering Snyder to cut out 30 minutes of the film.

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* Creator/ZackSnyder has become this from detractors who were angry with ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. \n Feelings towards Snyder have become even more divisive following the release of the Ultimate Edition of the film. Fans of this cut have levied blame towards Warner Brothers for ordering Snyder to cut out 30 minutes of the film.
31st Mar '17 8:09:04 AM AlternativeCola
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* ''{{Series/Arrow}}'' showrunner Marc Guggenheim has been blamed by fans who stopped watching the show for the SeasonalRot that began in season three and these include: [[spoiler:Sara being StuffedIntoTheFridge]] in the season three premier ([[spoiler:later BackFromTheDead and became one of the main characters for spin-off ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'']]) and allowing [[spoiler:Laurel to become Black Canary (though she managed to get RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap)]], the RomanticPlotTumor involving Oliver and Felicity (which resulted in Felicity becoming from EnsembleDarkhorse to BaseBreakingCharacter then to [[TheScrappy Scrappy]]), the overuse of flashbacks, Roy being PutOnABus, mediocre plots and most controversially, [[spoiler:Laurel KilledOffForReal]] in season four.
** Several detractors blame him, Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg for turning Oliver into a Franchise/{{Batman}} {{Expy}} for the series, due to featuring villains from Batman's RoguesGallery.

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* ''{{Series/Arrow}}'' showrunner Marc Guggenheim has been blamed by fans who stopped watching the show for the SeasonalRot that began in season [[SeasonalRot divisive seasons three and four]] and these include: [[spoiler:Sara being StuffedIntoTheFridge]] in the season three premier ([[spoiler:later BackFromTheDead and became one of the main characters for spin-off ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'']]) and allowing [[spoiler:Laurel to become Black Canary (though she managed to get RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap)]], the RomanticPlotTumor involving Oliver and Felicity (which resulted in Felicity becoming from EnsembleDarkhorse to BaseBreakingCharacter then to [[TheScrappy Scrappy]]), the overuse of flashbacks, Roy being PutOnABus, mediocre plots and most controversially, [[spoiler:Laurel KilledOffForReal]] in season four.
four. Same goes for Wendy Mericle.
** Several detractors blame him, Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg for turning Oliver into a Franchise/{{Batman}} {{Expy}} for the series, due to featuring villains from Batman's RoguesGallery. That being said, Berlanti and Kreisberg have been blamed for the SeasonalRot of ''Series/TheFlash2014'' that began with season two.
31st Mar '17 4:29:24 AM Doug86
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* Creator/ZackSnyder has become this from detractors who were angry with ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''.

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* Creator/ZackSnyder has become this from detractors who were angry with ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''.''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''.
28th Mar '17 10:53:24 PM RacattackForce
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* Since Creator/SatoruIwata died, the most common YouTube video for leaving condolences has been the credits theme for ''VideoGame/SuperMario64''. Just one problem: he's not even ''in'' said credits.
25th Mar '17 10:30:51 AM VoxAquila
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Feelings towards Snyder have become even more divisive]] following the release of the Ultimate Edition of the film. Fans of this cut have levied blame towards Warner Brothers for ordering Snyder to cut out 30 minutes of the film.

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Feelings towards Snyder have become even more divisive]] divisive following the release of the Ultimate Edition of the film. Fans of this cut have levied blame towards Warner Brothers for ordering Snyder to cut out 30 minutes of the film.
25th Mar '17 10:29:14 AM VoxAquila
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* Creator/ZackSnyder has become this from detractors who were angry with ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Though it's not ''completely'' unjustified, as Snyder has been confirmed to have a large amount of creative control over BvS. In addition, he was already an extremely polarizing filmmaker coming into the DCEU and is considered responsible for many of the flaws in Film/ManOfSteel (almost all of which are on display once more in BvS). However, he is certainly ''not'' the only one responsible for the trainwreck that ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' was like his biggest detractors insist.
** [[BrokenBase Feelings towards Snyder have become even more divisive]] following the release of the Ultimate Edition of the film. Fans of this cut have levied blame towards Warner Brothers for ordering Snyder to cut out 30 minutes of the film. Others have pointed out [[Film/{{Watchmen}} that this is not the first time Snyder had to cut down a movie's length]] to something manageable and that he should have known better than to make such a long film (as is, BvS was 2 and 1/2 hours in theaters, with the extended cut being 3 hours, a length very few studios will ''ever'' tolerate) Finally, there's a significant number of viewers who despise the Ultimate Edition as much as, if not even more, than the theatrical cut who very, very squarely place the blame on Snyder.

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* Creator/ZackSnyder has become this from detractors who were angry with ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Though it's not ''completely'' unjustified, as Snyder has been confirmed to have a large amount of creative control over BvS. In addition, he was already an extremely polarizing filmmaker coming into the DCEU and is considered responsible for many of the flaws in Film/ManOfSteel (almost all of which are on display once more in BvS). However, he is certainly ''not'' the only one responsible for the trainwreck that ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' was like his biggest detractors insist.
** [[BrokenBase Feelings towards Snyder have become even more divisive]] following the release of the Ultimate Edition of the film. Fans of this cut have levied blame towards Warner Brothers for ordering Snyder to cut out 30 minutes of the film. Others have pointed out [[Film/{{Watchmen}} that this is not the first time Snyder had to cut down a movie's length]] to something manageable and that he should have known better than to make such a long film (as is, BvS was 2 and 1/2 hours in theaters, with the extended cut being 3 hours, a length very few studios will ''ever'' tolerate) Finally, there's a significant number of viewers who despise the Ultimate Edition as much as, if not even more, than the theatrical cut who very, very squarely place the blame on Snyder.
25th Mar '17 6:10:58 AM VoxAquila
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* A large portion of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' fandom, long after the series' conclusion in 2003, can still be guaranteed to meltdown at the name of Marti Noxon, whom they hold responsible for the divisive [[SeasonalRot sixth]] [[DorkAge season]], during which she took over showrunner duties while Creator/JossWhedon was giving the majority of his time to'' Series/{{Angel}}'' and ''Series/{{Firefly}}.'' For many of them, the failure of subsequent series ''Series/PointPleasant'' was often held up as "proof" that she was out of her depth helming a TV show. David Fury and Steven [=DeKnight=] sometimes also get this, although in their cases it's more down to off-screen interactions with fans that went bad.
** And some fans squarely place the blame on Creator/JossWhedon for dissatisfaction with the UPN years. Or [[BrokenBase anything else]].

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* A large portion of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' fandom, long after the series' conclusion in 2003, can still be guaranteed to meltdown at the name of Marti Noxon, whom they hold responsible for the divisive [[SeasonalRot sixth]] [[DorkAge season]], during which she took over showrunner duties while Creator/JossWhedon was giving the majority of his time to'' Series/{{Angel}}'' and ''Series/{{Firefly}}.'' For many of them, the failure of subsequent series ''Series/PointPleasant'' was often held up as "proof" that she was out of her depth helming a TV show. Creator/JossWhedon came to her defense, saying the most divisive story elements ultimately came from him. David Fury and Steven [=DeKnight=] sometimes also get this, although in their cases it's more down to off-screen interactions with fans that went bad.
** And some fans squarely place the blame on Creator/JossWhedon for dissatisfaction with the UPN years. Or [[BrokenBase anything else]].
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18th Mar '17 12:07:00 PM JulianLapostat
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Of course, if you set yourself up as the public face concerning a work, franchise or even a particular decision, you have to expect this to come with the territory. And if you've made a habit of deliberately needling fans in other areas, it is not wise to expect much charity from them. In Hollywood it's historically producers who have been targeted, although now thanks to the ''auteur'' theory it's commonly directors and at times even actors.

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Of course, if you set yourself up as the public face concerning a work, franchise or even a particular decision, you have to expect this to come with the territory. And if you've made a habit of deliberately needling fans in other areas, it is not wise to expect much charity from them. In Hollywood it's historically producers who have been targeted, although now thanks to the ''auteur'' theory UsefulNotes/TheAuteurTheory it's commonly directors and at times even actors.



** And just to add to the pile, Lucas generally gets the blame among film snobs for ending the "New Hollywood" of daring, auteur driven films with his crappy little sci-fi megahit. Somehow those arguments tend not to bring up Spielberg, who pioneered the summer blockbuster; or that right around when Star Wars came out, the directors that defined the '70s weren't exactly hitting critical (or perhaps more importantly for the studios, [[BoxOfficeBomb financial]]) home runs. Or that Lucas himself was good friends with Creator/FrancisFordCoppola, John Milius, and other noted ''auteur'' filmmakers of the era, and even attended the Academy Awards with them.

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** And just to add to the pile, Lucas generally gets the blame among film snobs for ending the "New Hollywood" of daring, auteur driven films with his crappy little sci-fi megahit. Somehow those arguments tend not to bring up Spielberg, who pioneered the summer blockbuster; or that right around when Star Wars came out, the directors that defined the '70s weren't exactly hitting critical (or perhaps more importantly for the studios, [[BoxOfficeBomb financial]]) home runs. Or that Lucas himself was good friends with Creator/FrancisFordCoppola, John Milius, and other noted ''auteur'' filmmakers of the era, and even attended the Academy Awards with them.them, and they, and Lucas himself (as of 2015) see this more as a case of the film-makers ComicallyMissingThePoint than anything.
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