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25th Jun '16 11:49:32 PM WolfThunder
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* An odd example is ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'', with the [[CreatorCouple husband and wife team]] of director Mitsuo Fukuda and head script writer Chiaki Morosawa. They are responsible for some of the problems that afflicted the series; rather infamously, late in the show's run an animator blogged about Morosawa's perpetual tardiness with the scripts, which turned out to come from [[IllGirl her bad health]], which forced them to add lots of {{Padding}}. However, the fandom tends to exaggerate this wildly, and gladly parrots off a number of unflattering and '''never''' confirmed rumors on request, out of pure hatred for both of them ("Fukuda hates America because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and based off Blue Cosmos and ZAFT over them"; "Cagalli got [[{{Chickification}} demoted to extra]] because Morosawa hates her [[Creator/NaomiShindo voice actress]] personally"). All this is on top of the accusation that Kira Yamato and Lacus Clyne are their MarySue {{Author Avatar}}s, used to explain why they win and look good doing so (The fact that Creator/RieTanaka said that Lacus is a difficult role for her in [[http://www.animevice.com/news/nyaf08-interview-with-rie-tanaka/78/ an interview]] certainly didn't help matters.) Some have even gone so far as to whine about [[IllGirl Morosawa's perpetual illness]] and blame her for the DevelopmentHell that's delayed the rumored ''SEED'' conclusion movie for over five years - to the creepy point of ''hoping she dies of it as "punishment" for "ruining" the series"''.

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* An odd For arguably the ''worst'' example is ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'', with of this, look no further than ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' and the [[CreatorCouple husband and wife team]] of director Mitsuo Fukuda and head script writer Chiaki Morosawa. They are responsible for some of the problems that afflicted the series; rather infamously, late in the show's run an animator blogged about Morosawa's perpetual tardiness with the scripts, which turned out to come from [[IllGirl her bad health]], which forced them to add lots of {{Padding}}. However, the fandom tends to exaggerate this wildly, and gladly parrots off a number of unflattering and '''never''' confirmed rumors on request, out of pure hatred for both of them ("Fukuda hates America because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and based off Blue Cosmos and ZAFT over them"; "Cagalli got [[{{Chickification}} demoted to extra]] because Morosawa hates her [[Creator/NaomiShindo voice actress]] personally"). All this is on top of the accusation that Kira Yamato and Lacus Clyne are their MarySue {{Author Avatar}}s, used to explain why they win and look good doing so (The fact that Creator/RieTanaka said that Lacus is a difficult role for her in [[http://www.animevice.com/news/nyaf08-interview-with-rie-tanaka/78/ an interview]] certainly didn't help matters.) Some have even gone so far as to whine about [[IllGirl Morosawa's perpetual illness]] and blame her for the DevelopmentHell that's delayed the rumored ''SEED'' conclusion movie for over five years - to the creepy point of ''hoping she dies of it as "punishment" for "ruining" the series"''.series!''



** When [[AuthorExistenceFailure Morosawa DID fall victim to her illness]] in early 2016, [[http://khandri.tumblr.com/post/85172578225/things-i-wish-the-gundam-fandom-would-stop-doing some fans started poking fun at her demise]]. '''All because the SEED series didn't develop the way they wanted.'''

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** When [[AuthorExistenceFailure Morosawa DID fall victim to her illness]] in early 2016, [[http://khandri.tumblr.com/post/85172578225/things-i-wish-the-gundam-fandom-would-stop-doing some fans started poking fun at her demise]]. '''All '''[[FelonyMisdemeanor All because the SEED series didn't develop the way they wanted.'''wanted!]]'''
18th Jun '16 3:54:44 AM Morgenthaler
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* Creator/JeanPierreJeunet on ''Film/AlienResurrection''. He was brought in late into a troubled production and ended up being thrown under the bus by Fox for the film's failure despite most of the film's problems being the fault of either the studio or the [[Creator/JossWhedon screenwriters]]. The experience caused Jeunet to swear off Hollywood, and he hasn't returned since.

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* Creator/JeanPierreJeunet on ''Film/AlienResurrection''. He was brought in late into a troubled production and ended up being thrown under the bus by Fox for the film's failure despite most of the film's problems being the fault of either the studio or the [[Creator/JossWhedon screenwriters]].screenwriters]] (who in turn blamed both the studio and the director). The experience caused Jeunet to swear off Hollywood, and he hasn't returned since.
18th Jun '16 1:48:44 AM Silverblade2
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* In general, the directors of a film will receive most of the blame for a film's flopping (especially the story), even if it was mostly the writers' or cameramens'/animators' faults.



* Any poorly received game that is released on any console or format is automatically blamed on Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, regardless of whether or not those companies had any say in the actual creation of the game beyond funding and maybe localizing it. Likewise, any game that they publish is considered their responsibility. This also happens with other companies that have been known to work with indie or second-party game developers like Square-Enix. To further confound the cycle of hatred and blame, Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft often get blamed for [[NoExportForYou games that don't get released elsewhere in the world]] when it's not ''their'' doing.



* While websites are usually ran by a small crew (or the admin numbers is low), sometimes only the creator/head admin gets heat for controversial changes or issues.
18th Jun '16 12:16:18 AM Morgenthaler
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* Creator/JohnKricfalusi is widely blamed for the failures of ''TheRippingFriends'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon]]''--ignoring that the former show suffered from horrific meddling (which included throwing out all of the custom poses that Spumco is known for), and the latter show was pushed to be DarkerAndEdgier due to Spike TV wanting it to be another moneymaker along the lines of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''.

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* Creator/JohnKricfalusi is widely blamed for the failures of ''TheRippingFriends'' ''WesternAnimation/TheRippingFriends'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon]]''--ignoring that the former show suffered from horrific meddling (which included throwing out all of the custom poses that Spumco is known for), and the latter show was pushed to be DarkerAndEdgier due to Spike TV wanting it to be another moneymaker along the lines of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''.
16th Jun '16 8:02:10 PM comicwriter
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* Zack Snyder has become this from detractors who were angry with ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''.

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* Zack Snyder While Creator/JossWhedon did make some genuinely divisive and unpopular creative decisions for ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', he also gets blamed for stuff he had no control over, such as the heavily criticized Thor subplot and the copious amount of [[SequelHook Spin-Off Hooks]], both of which were studio mandates. He also got some criticism over the lack of diversity in the line-up in the [[Film/TheAvengers2012 first movie]], even though the team was decided on before he even signed on to direct.
* Creator/ZackSnyder
has become this from detractors who were angry with ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''.
12th Jun '16 1:31:06 PM AndIntroducingALeg
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*** Indeed, a faction of fandom argues that JNT was actually a pretty good producer when he had the help of a good script editor: in other words, Christopher H. Bidmead early on and Andrew Cartmel at the end. These fans would argue that the main culprit was the unhelpful incompetent he was lumbered with in between: Eric Saward.
3rd Jun '16 7:52:43 AM AlternativeCola
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*** Several fans of the original series would blame Dwayne [=McDuffie=] and Glen Murakami for ''Alien Force'' and ''Ultimate Alien''.

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*** Several fans of the original series would blame Dwayne [=McDuffie=] DwayneMcDuffie and Glen Murakami for ''Alien Force'' and ''Ultimate Alien''.



* Several Cartoon Network viewers tend to blame former president Stuart Snyder for the 2007-2014 NetworkDecay of the channel in addition to wanting to take all of CN's old property and licensing for granted as he introduced live-action (though not all of the live-action content was ridiculed by fans and critics with ''TowerPrep'' and ''UnnaturalHistory'' receiving more positive reception than the other live-action shows) and [[MerchandiseDriven merchandise-geared]] programming.

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* Several Cartoon Network Creator/CartoonNetwork viewers tend to blame former president Stuart Snyder for the 2007-2014 NetworkDecay of the channel in addition to wanting to take all of CN's old property and licensing for granted as he introduced live-action (though not all of the live-action content was ridiculed by fans and critics with ''TowerPrep'' and ''UnnaturalHistory'' receiving more positive reception than the other live-action shows) and [[MerchandiseDriven merchandise-geared]] programming.programming. He's also blamed for shutting down the channel's Creator/{{Toonami}} block in 2008 before it was revived as part of {{Adult Swim}} in 2012.



*** Subverted for ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', as the show was cancelled by Lucasfilm's new owner Disney to focus on the sequel trilogy despite strong ratings for Cartoon Network and a sixth season was in production at the time (originally going to be aired on Disney XD following the 2012 acquisition of Lucasfilm by Disney, before the cancellation led it to be aired on Netflix a year after the show was cancelled).
* Several Creator/DisneyChannel viewers blame president Anne Sweeney for the post-2000s NetworkDecay of the channel such as that it became a broken record of gender imbalance, tweenage pop stars, and the same handful of animated shows.

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*** Subverted for ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', as the show was cancelled by Lucasfilm's new owner Disney to focus on the sequel trilogy despite strong ratings for Cartoon Network and a sixth season was in production at the time (originally going to be aired on Disney XD following the 2012 acquisition of Lucasfilm by Disney, before the cancellation led it to be aired on Netflix a year after the show was cancelled).
cancelled) and due to the fact Disney didn't want to focus on two shows at the same time as ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels Rebels]]'' since it was in preproduction when ''The Clone Wars'' was cancelled.
* Several Creator/DisneyChannel viewers blame former president Anne Sweeney for the post-2000s NetworkDecay of the channel such as that it became a broken record of gender imbalance, tweenage pop stars, and the same handful of animated shows.
21st May '16 3:22:40 AM erforce
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-->--'''Mark Rosewater''', head designer for ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' (link [[http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/86120261643/so-do-some-people-think-youre-in-charge-of-every here]])

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-->--'''Mark -->-- '''Mark Rosewater''', head designer for ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' (link [[http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/86120261643/so-do-some-people-think-youre-in-charge-of-every here]])



* Creator/DavidFincher suffered this on ''Film/{{Alien 3}}''. From what is known about what happened, Fincher was brought in late to the production (after several directors and writers, including Renny Harlin and Vincent Ward, left the production due to creative differences). Fincher had to contend with overzealous studio executives who attempted to tell him what and what not to shoot, very little room to alter the script (which was several different drafts bashed together into a vaguely coherent narrative) - which in turn forced him to continually rewrite pages to match already-shot footage, reshoots and the experience of being locked out of the 20th Century Fox editing room during post-production. Almost 20 years later, you can still find fans who lay the entire blame of the film's aesthetic and plot on Fincher - who, at the very least, did what he could to try and salvage the film. An interview with Fincher in the early 00's had him explain that he would have started entirely from scratch if he had his way.

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* Creator/DavidFincher suffered this on ''Film/{{Alien 3}}''. From what is known about what happened, Fincher was brought in late to the production (after several directors and writers, including Renny Harlin Creator/RennyHarlin and Vincent Ward, left the production due to creative differences). Fincher had to contend with overzealous studio executives who attempted to tell him what and what not to shoot, very little room to alter the script (which was several different drafts bashed together into a vaguely coherent narrative) - which in turn forced him to continually rewrite pages to match already-shot footage, reshoots and the experience of being locked out of the 20th Century Fox editing room during post-production. Almost 20 years later, you can still find fans who lay the entire blame of the film's aesthetic and plot on Fincher - who, at the very least, did what he could to try and salvage the film. An interview with Fincher in the early 00's had him explain that he would have started entirely from scratch if he had his way.
12th May '16 8:08:15 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** When [[AuthorExistenceFailure Morosawa DID fall victim to her illness]] in early 2016, [[http://khandri.tumblr.com/post/85172578225/things-i-wish-the-gundam-fandom-would-stop-doing some fans started poking fun at her demise]]. '''All because the SEED series didn't develop the way they wanted.'''
8th May '16 2:16:07 PM rjd1922
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** Fans of TooGoodToLast/AcclaimedFlop shows on CN during the Snyder era such as ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries'', ''WesternAnimation/SymBionicTitan'', ''WesternAnimation/BewareTheBatman'', the 2011 ''WesternAnimation/ThunderCats'' [[WesternAnimation/ThunderCats2011 reboot]], ''TowerPrep'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Robotomy}}'' and ''UnnaturalHistory'' blame him for cancelling them due to low toy sales (no toys were made for ''Sym-Bionic Titan'', ''Tower Prep'' and ''Unnatural History'' on the other hand) or high production costs despite strong ratings.

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** Fans of TooGoodToLast/AcclaimedFlop TooGoodToLast[=/=]AcclaimedFlop shows on CN during the Snyder era such as ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries'', ''WesternAnimation/SymBionicTitan'', ''WesternAnimation/BewareTheBatman'', the 2011 ''WesternAnimation/ThunderCats'' [[WesternAnimation/ThunderCats2011 reboot]], ''TowerPrep'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Robotomy}}'' and ''UnnaturalHistory'' blame him for cancelling them due to low toy sales (no toys were made for ''Sym-Bionic Titan'', ''Tower Prep'' and ''Unnatural History'' on the other hand) or high production costs despite strong ratings.
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