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20th Feb '18 8:12:57 AM N8han11
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* Cleveland Jr. from ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' was portrayed as a little, energetic kid and then was almost never seen anymore for the longest time... until ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' when he reappeared transformed into a fat, slow-witted Chris Griffin {{Expy}}. This is [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in the episode ''A Rodent Like This'' when Junior points out to Rallo that he looks nothing like Cleveland and it is revealed [[spoiler:that the real Cleveland Junior was killed and the current one [[ItMakesSenseInContext is really a spy who replaced him in order to get to hisC next target]]]]. Naturally the episode has a ResetButtonEnding.

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* Cleveland Jr. from ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' was portrayed as a little, energetic kid and then was almost never seen anymore for the longest time... until ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' when he reappeared transformed into a fat, slow-witted Chris Griffin {{Expy}}. This is [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in the episode ''A Rodent Like This'' when Junior points out to Rallo that he looks nothing like Cleveland and it is revealed [[spoiler:that the real Cleveland Junior was killed and the current one [[ItMakesSenseInContext is really a spy who replaced him in order to get to hisC his next target]]]]. Naturally the episode has a ResetButtonEnding.
4th Feb '18 7:55:57 AM Manny20444
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** With the exception of Grandpa Max, just about ''every'' character from ''Ben 10'' fits this trope when they show up in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' and ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''; looking, acting, and sounding completely different than before. This includes Ben, Gwen, Kevin Levin, Cooper, Charmcaster, the Forever Knights, and most infamously, Vilgax. Some of this can be attributed to the five-year TimeSkip, but certain changes (like Kevin's lack of sociopathy and rather abrupt HeelFaceTurn) struck the fanbase as ham-fisted. It took ''four seasons'' (just before the Ultimate Alien season 1 finale) before any explanation was given of how Kevin had become sane.
** Then ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' came and the characters ended up completely changing a ''second'' time. Basically the franchise now has three different versions of most characters: from the original show, from the two Glen Murakami-helmed sequels, and now this. However, it ''is'' largely limited to the animation style and portrayal. Only a few characters ''act'' differently than they did before.
** The character of Charmcaster is a particularly egregious case of this trope in action. In the original show, she was a play on the DarkMagicalGirl trope, more willfully malevolent than most but not wholly devoid of better qualities either. Come ''Alien Force'', she has [[TookALevelInJerkass become purely villainous]] and increasingly [[AxCrazy murderous]]. In ''Ultimate Alien'', she suddenly becomes a [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds darkly tragic]] BrokenBird who starts going through a HeelFaceRevolvingDoor. Then in ''Omniverse'', an emotional breakdown has made her become a [[PsychopathicManchild childish]], LaughablyEvil CloudCuckoolander, although toward the end she circles back toward being more like she was in the original show.
** ''WesternAnimation/Ben102016'' does this to nearly everybody but one of the most egregious examples is Frightwig of the Circus Freak Trio. While Thumbskull and Acid Breath look pretty much the same as they were in previous shows Frightwig is now a girl of about 10-11 and acts as an independent villain while having a dark mirror of a personality to Ben.

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** With the exception of Grandpa Max, just about ''every'' character from ''Ben 10'' fits this trope when they show up in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' and ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''; looking, acting, and sounding completely different than before. This includes Ben, Gwen, Kevin Levin, Cooper, Charmcaster, the Forever Knights, and most infamously, Vilgax. Some of this can be attributed to the five-year TimeSkip, but certain changes (like Kevin's lack of sociopathy and rather abrupt HeelFaceTurn) struck the fanbase as ham-fisted. It took ''four seasons'' (just before the Ultimate Alien ''Ultimate Alien'' season 1 finale) before any explanation was given of how Kevin had become sane.
** Then ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' came and the characters ended up completely changing a ''second'' time. Basically the franchise now has three different versions of most characters: from the original show, series, from the two Glen Murakami-helmed sequels, and now this. However, it ''is'' largely limited to the animation style and portrayal. Only a few characters ''act'' differently than they did before.
** The character of Charmcaster is a particularly egregious case of this trope in action. In the original show, series, she was a play on the DarkMagicalGirl trope, more willfully malevolent than most but not wholly devoid of better qualities either. Come ''Alien Force'', she has [[TookALevelInJerkass become purely villainous]] and increasingly [[AxCrazy murderous]]. In ''Ultimate Alien'', she suddenly becomes a [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds darkly tragic]] BrokenBird who starts going through a HeelFaceRevolvingDoor. Then in ''Omniverse'', an emotional breakdown has made her become a [[PsychopathicManchild childish]], LaughablyEvil CloudCuckoolander, although toward the end she circles back toward being more like she was in the original show.series.
** ''WesternAnimation/Ben102016'' does this to nearly everybody everybody, but one of the most egregious examples is Frightwig of the Circus Freak Trio. While Thumbskull and Acid Breath look pretty much the same as they were in previous shows Frightwig is now a girl of about 10-11 and acts as an independent villain while having a dark mirror of a personality to Ben.
29th Jan '18 9:15:47 PM nombretomado
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* Compare Black Tarantula's appearances in ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'' (late [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]]) with those in Creator/EdBrubaker's ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} (ModernAge). You will be surprised how much he changed, without any reason. And, what's the most scary, [[TropesAreNotBad it was good for him]].

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* Compare Black Tarantula's appearances in ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'' (late [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]]) with those in Creator/EdBrubaker's ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} (ModernAge).([[UsefulNotes/TheModernAgeOfComicBooks Modern Age]]). You will be surprised how much he changed, without any reason. And, what's the most scary, [[TropesAreNotBad it was good for him]].
17th Jan '18 7:31:50 PM DastardlyDemolition
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** ''WesternAnimation/Ben102016'' does this to nearly everybody but one of the most egregious examples is Frightwig of the Circus Freak Trio. While Thumbskull and Acid Breath look pretty much the same as they were in previous shows Frightwig is now a girl of about 10-11 and acts as an independent villain while having a dark mirror of a personality to Ben.



** This was kind of done with [[InformedAttractiveness Justin]]. In the first season proper he was very OutOfFocus--he only spoke in the first episode and got voted off around episode five. In the first season special, however, he [[SuddenlyVoiced talks a lot more]] and is presented as a rather crafty antagonist. Season two continued with this characterization and set him up as the new villain, only to [[AbortedArc forget about that arc]] and replace him with [[JerkassSue Courtney]], who is a straight-up case of CharacterDerailment.

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** This was kind of done with [[InformedAttractiveness Justin]]. In the first season proper proper, he was very OutOfFocus--he only spoke in the first episode and got voted off around episode five. In the first season special, however, he [[SuddenlyVoiced talks a lot more]] and is presented as a rather crafty antagonist. Season two continued with this characterization and set him up as the new villain, only to [[AbortedArc forget about that arc]] and replace him with [[JerkassSue Courtney]], who is a straight-up case of CharacterDerailment.
2nd Jan '18 6:59:35 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Hollyoaks}}'' introduced Sonny Valentine as an angry teenager who was involved in petty crime, though not really a "bad" person at heart. When his actor was fired, Sonny was written out by having him leave to move in with a random aunt. Seven years later, he was re-introduced with a new actor who [[TheOtherDarrin looked nothing like the original]], and with a new personality: a brooding but charming CowboyCop, similar to his brother Calvin. It was later revealed that Sonny had been scheming to murder the [=McQueen=] family (since Theresa [=McQueen=] had killed Calvin) and take Calvin's widow and daughter for himself - also out of character in contrast to the previous Sonny, who hadn't been too bright and preferred to solve his problems with a fist fight.

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* ''{{Hollyoaks}}'' ''Series/{{Hollyoaks}}'' introduced Sonny Valentine as an angry teenager who was involved in petty crime, though not really a "bad" person at heart. When his actor was fired, Sonny was written out by having him leave to move in with a random aunt. Seven years later, he was re-introduced with a new actor who [[TheOtherDarrin looked nothing like the original]], and with a new personality: a brooding but charming CowboyCop, similar to his brother Calvin. It was later revealed that Sonny had been scheming to murder the [=McQueen=] family (since Theresa [=McQueen=] had killed Calvin) and take Calvin's widow and daughter for himself - also out of character in contrast to the previous Sonny, who hadn't been too bright and preferred to solve his problems with a fist fight.
27th Dec '17 2:03:25 PM _ballerina_
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* In ''Series/GossipGirl'' there are a fewó
**Carter Baizen first appears as a renegade and not wealthy character with criminal connections, and Chuck and Nate reminisce on his past as a privileged Manhattenite like themselves before disowning his family. A few episodes later, however, he has supposedly reconciled with his family and is again part of the Upper East Side elite.
** The first few times Chuck's Uncle Jack Bass appears, he's an evil and villainous ManipulativeBastard and his actions include [[spoiler:attempting to rape Lily and causing the implosion of Chuck and Blaire's relationship.]] When he next appears, he apologizes, blaming his behavior on cocaine, and from them on becomes a helpful, if slimy, ally for Chuck and the gang.
** the scandalous and cruel Georgina Sparks comes back from disciplinary camp a Jesus-loving PuritySue.
9th Dec '17 6:55:07 AM SeptimusHeap
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* This is extremely common in series with LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters. ComicBook/{{X-men}} in particular, due to their revolving cast there were numerous characters change off panel. Usually they either join some other team, or seek higher education. For example the character Karma. When we're first introduced to her, she is older than the rest of the New Mutants, and considerably more mature, conservative, and acts as a parental surrogate to her brother and sister. She eventually leaves when her siblings are kidnapped. Then cut to several years later when she meets X-Force in a desert rave, with dyed pink hair, body piercings, and revealing clothing. She would also later come out as a lesbian.

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* This is extremely common in series with LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters. ComicBook/{{X-men}} ComicBook/XMen in particular, due to their revolving cast there were numerous characters change off panel. Usually they either join some other team, or seek higher education. For example the character Karma. When we're first introduced to her, she is older than the rest of the New Mutants, and considerably more mature, conservative, and acts as a parental surrogate to her brother and sister. She eventually leaves when her siblings are kidnapped. Then cut to several years later when she meets X-Force in a desert rave, with dyed pink hair, body piercings, and revealing clothing. She would also later come out as a lesbian.
30th Oct '17 7:42:33 PM LadyNorbert
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* Pictured above is Phoenix Wright from the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series, a promising lawyer and a really caring person in [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the first trilogy]]. And then came ''[[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo Justice]]'', 7 years later, where Phoenix was now a homeless man who played poker at the basement of a bar and has a 15-year-old adopted daughter. Turns out that [[spoiler: due to a large petty grudge, he was set up and tricked into presenting forged evidence that cost him his career. Trucy, his adopted daughter, is the biological daughter of the man that Wright was representing and whom lost his life. Turns out the guy that offed him was the same who set up Phoenix, all out of a messed-up sense of pride. Although when you get to play as him, you learn that he's still the same guy on the inside]].

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* Pictured above is Phoenix Wright from the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series, a promising lawyer and a really caring person in [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the first trilogy]]. And then came ''[[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo Justice]]'', 7 years later, where Phoenix was now a homeless man who played poker at the basement of a bar and has a 15-year-old adopted daughter. Turns out that [[spoiler: due to a large petty grudge, he was set up and tricked into presenting forged evidence that cost him his career. Trucy, his adopted daughter, is the biological daughter of the man that Wright was representing and whom representing, who lost his life. Turns out the guy that offed him was the same who set up Phoenix, all out of a messed-up sense of pride. Although when you get to play as him, you learn that he's still the same guy on the inside]].
23rd Oct '17 12:38:32 PM Isaac_Heller
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** The character of Charmcaster is a particularly egregious case of this trope in action. In the original show, she was a play on the DarkMagicalGirl trope, more willfully malevolent than most but not wholly devoid of better qualities either. Come ''Alien Force'', she has [[TookALevelInJerkass become purely villainous]] and increasingly [[AxCrazy murderous]]. In ''Ultimate Alien'', she suddenly becomes a [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorld darkly tragic]] BrokenBird who starts going through a HeelFaceRevolvingDoor. Then in ''Omniverse'', an emotional breakdown has made her become a [[PsychopathicManchild childish]], LaughablyEvil CloudCuckoolander, although toward the end she circles back toward being more like she was in the original show.

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** The character of Charmcaster is a particularly egregious case of this trope in action. In the original show, she was a play on the DarkMagicalGirl trope, more willfully malevolent than most but not wholly devoid of better qualities either. Come ''Alien Force'', she has [[TookALevelInJerkass become purely villainous]] and increasingly [[AxCrazy murderous]]. In ''Ultimate Alien'', she suddenly becomes a [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorld [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds darkly tragic]] BrokenBird who starts going through a HeelFaceRevolvingDoor. Then in ''Omniverse'', an emotional breakdown has made her become a [[PsychopathicManchild childish]], LaughablyEvil CloudCuckoolander, although toward the end she circles back toward being more like she was in the original show.
23rd Oct '17 12:37:56 PM Isaac_Heller
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* Cleveland Jr. from ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' was portrayed as a little, energetic kid and then was almost never seen anymore for the longest time... until ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' when he reappeared transformed into a fat, slow-witted Chris Griffin {{Expy}}. This is [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in the episode ''A Rodent Like This'' when Junior points out to Rallo that he looks nothing like Cleveland and it is revealed [[spoiler:that the real Cleveland Junior was killed and the current one [[ItMakesSenseInContext is really a spy who replaced him in order to get to his next target]]]]. Naturally the episode has a ResetButtonEnding.

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* Cleveland Jr. from ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' was portrayed as a little, energetic kid and then was almost never seen anymore for the longest time... until ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' when he reappeared transformed into a fat, slow-witted Chris Griffin {{Expy}}. This is [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in the episode ''A Rodent Like This'' when Junior points out to Rallo that he looks nothing like Cleveland and it is revealed [[spoiler:that the real Cleveland Junior was killed and the current one [[ItMakesSenseInContext is really a spy who replaced him in order to get to his hisC next target]]]]. Naturally the episode has a ResetButtonEnding.


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** The character of Charmcaster is a particularly egregious case of this trope in action. In the original show, she was a play on the DarkMagicalGirl trope, more willfully malevolent than most but not wholly devoid of better qualities either. Come ''Alien Force'', she has [[TookALevelInJerkass become purely villainous]] and increasingly [[AxCrazy murderous]]. In ''Ultimate Alien'', she suddenly becomes a [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorld darkly tragic]] BrokenBird who starts going through a HeelFaceRevolvingDoor. Then in ''Omniverse'', an emotional breakdown has made her become a [[PsychopathicManchild childish]], LaughablyEvil CloudCuckoolander, although toward the end she circles back toward being more like she was in the original show.
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