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16th Jan '17 2:46:46 PM Nintendoman01
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** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerfulPpokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.

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** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerfulPpokemon powerful Pokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.



* ''Anime/BloodPlus'' has the Schiff. As prototype {{Super Soldiers}}, they're deadly warriors, but due to their upbringing as living weapons, they have NoSocialSkills whatsoever; even something as simple as simply asking for help or something they need rather than taking it by force is an alien concept to them.

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* ''Anime/BloodPlus'' has the Schiff. As prototype {{Super Soldiers}}, they're deadly warriors, but due to their upbringing as living weapons, they have NoSocialSkills whatsoever; even something as simple as simply asking for help or something they need rather than taking it by force is an alien concept to them.
24th Dec '16 6:15:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* Franchise/DocSavage, GeniusBruiser, righter of wrongs, and certified BadAss with CharlesAtlasSuperpower is one of the most learned men in the world in several fields of endeavor, but he never figured out how to cook.

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* Franchise/DocSavage, GeniusBruiser, righter of wrongs, and certified BadAss badass with CharlesAtlasSuperpower is one of the most learned men in the world in several fields of endeavor, but he never figured out how to cook.



* Most player characters of modern video games that are heavy on scripting, especially the ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' series. For example, Soap, from ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare''. [[BadAss Highly trained SAS operator.]] [[OneManArmy Can shred through dozens of baddies in a matter of minutes.]] [[InsurmountableWaistHighFence Cannot open a door.]]

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* Most player characters of modern video games that are heavy on scripting, especially the ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' series. For example, Soap, from ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare''. [[BadAss Highly trained SAS operator.]] operator. [[OneManArmy Can shred through dozens of baddies in a matter of minutes.]] [[InsurmountableWaistHighFence Cannot open a door.]]
22nd Dec '16 8:04:50 AM AnotherDuck
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*** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerfulPpokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.

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*** ** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerfulPpokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.



* Shichika from ''LightNovel/{{Katanagatari}}'' spent his entire life training under his father to master Kyotoryuu on a deserted island. At the start of the series he has absolutely no knowledge of the outside world and can't even pick up the differences between other people. This seems to have been intentional on his father's part; a Kyotoryuu master is supposed to be a sword (not a swordsman) with no will of his own that someone else wields. Most of Shichika's CharacterDevelopment has him realizing that he is still a human and has a will of his own. Another side effect of Shichika's training is that he is completely unable to wield swords. This becomes an issue in episode 9 since the owner of that episode's Deviant blade is a kendo master who refuses to duel Shichika unless he is also armed and armored.
** At the last episodes, we discover that this trope is exaggerated: Shichika was the last product of an AncientConspiracy, the Kyotouryuu, the No Sword School, that wants to create the perfect swordman (a man so powerful that donít need swords anymore), and he is the seventh generation of a school that had made the practicing of this martial art the principal motive of their lives. That means that Sinichika is the last generation of five guys, each of them who were educated by a father who SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, meaning each generation had more and more NoSocialSkills.

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* Shichika from ''LightNovel/{{Katanagatari}}'' spent his entire life training under his father to master Kyotoryuu on a deserted island. At the start of the series he has absolutely no knowledge of the outside world and can't even pick up the differences between other people. This seems to have been intentional on his father's part; a Kyotoryuu master is supposed to be a sword (not a swordsman) with no will of his own that someone else wields. Most of Shichika's CharacterDevelopment has him realizing that he is still a human and has a will of his own. Another side effect of Shichika's training is that he is completely unable to wield swords. This becomes an issue in episode 9 since the owner of that episode's Deviant blade is a kendo master who refuses to duel Shichika unless he is also armed and armored.
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armored. At the last episodes, we discover that this trope is exaggerated: Shichika was the last product of an AncientConspiracy, the Kyotouryuu, the No Sword School, that wants to create the perfect swordman (a man so powerful that donít need swords anymore), and he is the seventh generation of a school that had made the practicing of this martial art the principal motive of their lives. That means that Sinichika Shichika is the last generation of five guys, each of them who were educated by a father who SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, meaning each generation had more and more NoSocialSkills.
19th Dec '16 1:46:46 AM Nintendoman01
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** Used well with characterization when Ash and Pkachu take on Lt. Surge and Raichu. After losing, Ash gets a Thunder Stone, allowing him to evolve Pikachu at any time with it, but Pikachu vehemently refuses to evolve to match Raichu. Turns out that in Lt. Surge's haste to evolve his Pikachu into a Raichu, it didn't learn basic attacks (especially ones involving speed). Bulbasaur and Squirtle also adopt this philosophy, but contrast Charizard who evolved as quickly as possible because of its low self-esteem. It ends up leaving Ash to train because it is ''relatively weak'', while Bulbasaur and Squirtle lead Pokemon teams with more advanced Pokemon following ''them''.
*** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerful pokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.

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** Used well with characterization when Ash and Pkachu Pikachu take on Lt. Surge and Raichu. After losing, Ash gets a Thunder Stone, allowing him to evolve Pikachu at any time with it, but Pikachu vehemently refuses to evolve to match Raichu. Turns out that in Lt. Surge's haste to evolve his Pikachu into a Raichu, it didn't learn basic attacks (especially ones involving speed). Bulbasaur and Squirtle also adopt this philosophy, but contrast Charizard who evolved as quickly as possible because of its low self-esteem. It ends up leaving Ash to train because it is ''relatively weak'', while Bulbasaur and Squirtle lead Pokemon teams with more advanced Pokemon following ''them''.
*** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerful pokemon powerfulPpokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.


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* ''Anime/BloodPlus'' has the Schiff. As prototype {{Super Soldiers}}, they're deadly warriors, but due to their upbringing as living weapons, they have NoSocialSkills whatsoever; even something as simple as simply asking for help or something they need rather than taking it by force is an alien concept to them.
12th Dec '16 9:04:37 PM aerojockey
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* PlayedForLaughs in ''Series/MarriedWithChildren''. In one episode Al trains Kelly to learn a bunch of sports trivia for a quiz show, and during the TrainingMontage we see basic life skills (like "Dinner first, then sex") literally exiting her brain.
12th Nov '16 1:59:13 AM Morgenthaler
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* Vince of ''Literature/SuperPowereds'', thanks to his homeless childhood and strange upbringing. Survival skills? Good enough. Fighting? got that [[{{Badass}} in spades]]. Social skills? [[NoSocialSkills minimal]]. operating basic appliances? Not a clue. There's also Chad, arguably the best fighter in the class, whose every thought is focused on training to be the very best he can be. Even his mother is concerned that he has no actual friends but a number of ''sparring partners''. He actually uses his "total control" power to prevent himself from sensing any emotions towards others until later, when he becomes curious. Vince's friends note that he and Chad are the same in the NoSocialSkills respect, as well as their general obtuseness to {{Double Entendre}}s (Chad tells Vince that a girl has invited him to a club only to avoid inviting someone who would grope her all night long, and both accept it at face value; the others wonder how it's possible to be this dense for not one but two people).

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* Vince of ''Literature/SuperPowereds'', thanks to his homeless childhood and strange upbringing. Survival skills? Good enough. Fighting? got that [[{{Badass}} in spades]].spades. Social skills? [[NoSocialSkills minimal]]. operating basic appliances? Not a clue. There's also Chad, arguably the best fighter in the class, whose every thought is focused on training to be the very best he can be. Even his mother is concerned that he has no actual friends but a number of ''sparring partners''. He actually uses his "total control" power to prevent himself from sensing any emotions towards others until later, when he becomes curious. Vince's friends note that he and Chad are the same in the NoSocialSkills respect, as well as their general obtuseness to {{Double Entendre}}s (Chad tells Vince that a girl has invited him to a club only to avoid inviting someone who would grope her all night long, and both accept it at face value; the others wonder how it's possible to be this dense for not one but two people).
27th Sep '16 2:20:42 AM Siempie
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*''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' does this quite a lot. The Chrystal Gems, millenia-old protectors of Earth, sometimes still don't get basic human concepts. Some examples include:
**The human notation of time.
--->'''Greg''': What time is it?!
--->'''Pearl''': ''(confused)'' Night... Time...?
**Normal food consumption.
***Amethyst puts motor oil on sandwiches, and is shown opening a can of soda, then ''eating the can''.
***On the other end of the spectrum, Pearl never eats,and when she finally decides to drink something, she says it in the tone of someone announcing they're going to empty an entire bottle of vodka before the end of the night. Cue her struggling to open a can of apple juice for ten full seconds. Her attempts include tapping the top and trying to twist the lid off.
**Clothing.
***Peridot is very amused by the concept of shorts (although she refers to every piece of clothing as a shirt), but rips them apart as soon as Garnet walks in on her wearing them.
***Pearl, a fearless protector of Earth, falls over while trying to take off a pair of jeans. The entire sequence takes her 16 full seconds.
**Interaction with humans.
***Perhaps the most famous example of this is Garnet's interaction with Connie's mother.
---->'''Garnet (on the phone)''': Hello! This... Is Mum Universe. Yes. The children are playing swords. Sorry, playing ''with'' swords. They're bleeding. Oh no, they are dead. Don't call again.
***Rose did not seem to understand that you really shouldn't let babies climb up ferris wheels.
***Pearl knocks over an entire stack of cups trying to be nonchalant while talking to Mystery Girl. When she ''does'' eventually talk to her, Pearl casually reveals her body is just a conscious manifestation of light, and... Well...
---->'''Pearl (to Amethyst and Steven)''': And then I added: "By the way I saved your planet and your species and you're welcome."
***Peridot's twitter account describes the events of a pizza being delivered to the barn. First, Peridot tries to stall for time until she finds out what money is. Then, when the delivery person says it's on the house, Peridot gets very confused because the pizza is most definitely in her hands. And finally, when the person tells her to just run with it, she really does. [[LiteralMinded As in, she runs through the countryside with a pizza in her hands.]] For two days straight. While getting hurt by bees, snakes and cars.
***While we're on the subject of Peridot's twitter, she doesn't really seem to get a lot of internet things either. She never turns off her CAPS LOCK, and doesn't seem to grasp the concept of emojis.
---->'''PERIDOT''': COLON THREE INTERNET FACE
**Emotions.
***This one only really applies to Peridot. When she was introduced, she was a stone-cold, heartless gem, because emotions aren't something Homeworld spends a lot of time on. Her emotional development only began after the events of Jailbreak. As the series progresses, she gets more and more desperate to leave Earth, [[SanitySlippage which does quite a number on her sanity]]. She developed a knack for laughing whenever she beat the Gems at something, and suffers from a minor breakdown after Steven can't fix the Homeworld warp. After her capture, she has the emotional stability of a young child. She frequently throws temper tantrums, and says a lot of things she doesn't know hurt other people, especially to Garnet [[spoiler:(since she's a fusion)]] and Pearl (since Pearls are the lowest in the Homeworld chaste system).
---->'''Peridot''': She's a ''Pearl''! She's a made-to-order servant just like the hundreds of other Pearls being flaunted around back on Homeworld!
---->[...]
---->'''Peridot''': ''(referring to Garnet)'' She's TWO clods! ''(laughs)'' Walking around like she's... ONE clod! ''(laughs harder)''
26th Sep '16 9:23:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/SavageWorlds'': While it is possible to min-max to the moon and back, SavageWorlds introduced the "Common Knowledge"-roll as a way to get a reasonably well-rounded character without having to spend a whole slow of experience points on a number of vaguely useful knowledge skills.

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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/SavageWorlds'': While it is possible to min-max to the moon and back, SavageWorlds Savage Worlds introduced the "Common Knowledge"-roll as a way to get a reasonably well-rounded character without having to spend a whole slow of experience points on a number of vaguely useful knowledge skills.
26th Sep '16 9:08:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* Averted in SavageWorlds: While it is possible to min-max to the moon and back, SavageWorlds introduced the "Common Knowledge"-roll as a way to get a reasonably well-rounded character without having to spend a whole slow of experience points on a number of vaguely useful knowledge skills.

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* Averted in SavageWorlds: ''TabletopGame/SavageWorlds'': While it is possible to min-max to the moon and back, SavageWorlds introduced the "Common Knowledge"-roll as a way to get a reasonably well-rounded character without having to spend a whole slow of experience points on a number of vaguely useful knowledge skills.
16th Sep '16 5:31:51 PM Star1412
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** His son Damian is even more socially retarded. He started ninja training at the age of three, and at the age of ten, he has never even been in a bounce house.

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** His son Damian is even more socially retarded.inept. He started ninja training at the age of three, and at the age of ten, he has never even been in a bounce house.
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