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24th Feb '17 2:45:10 PM Monsund
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* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' gives us a rare male BrokenBird in the form of [[spoiler:King Gangrel...[[AxCrazy yes, that Gangrel.]] Should you recruit him in his Spotpass chapter, the player will discover, via supports and quotes, that he regrets ''all'' of the actions that he did for the first part of the game on an incredibly deep level, and he has absolutely nothing left to fight for. The Avatar cuts him a break (moreso if a female Avatar marries him), and he even looks out for [[LaserGuidedAmnesia Emmeryn]], the same woman he wanted dead, if she joins your group. Despite most of his actions being unjustifiable, Chrom is never able to forgive him. And Gangrel is ''painfully'' aware of how this is a consequence of his own actions -- even when he had a ''massive'' DarkAndTroubledPast, this is not enough of a reason for him to do the horrible things he did. (And Aversa, the other Atoner of the series, at least did the just-as-bad things she did after ''being brainwashed and "groomed" by Validar for years'', unlike Gangrel who did them ''out of his own will''.)]]

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** ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy Of TheHoly]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemThracia776 Thracia 776]]'' use this. The Loptyrians are descendants of
a rare male BrokenBird ReligionOfEvil that forged a ruthless Evilempire in the form of [[spoiler:King Gangrel...[[AxCrazy yes, that Gangrel.]] Should you recruit him in his Spotpass chapter, the player will discover, via supports and quotes, that he regrets ''all'' of the actions that he did for the first part of the game on an incredibly deep level, and he has absolutely nothing left to fight for. The Avatar cuts him a break (moreso if a female Avatar marries him), and he even looks out for [[LaserGuidedAmnesia Emmeryn]], the same woman he wanted dead, if she joins your group. past. Despite most abandoning the evil qualities of his actions being unjustifiable, Chrom is never able to forgive him. And Gangrel is ''painfully'' aware of how this is a consequence of his own actions -- their worship or even when he had a ''massive'' DarkAndTroubledPast, this is not enough of a reason for him trying to do abandon the horrible things he did. (And Aversa, religion, the other Atoner of Loptyrians were [[WitchHunt witch hunted]] and forced to survive in a barren wasteland. This resulted in the series, at least did Loptyrians under Manfroy [[ThenLetMeBeEvil reviving their evil practices and once again]] trying to take over the just-as-bad things she did after ''being brainwashed and "groomed" by Validar for years'', unlike Gangrel who did them ''out of his own will''.)]]continent.


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** ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]'' gives us a rare male BrokenBird in the form of [[spoiler:King Gangrel...[[AxCrazy yes, that Gangrel.]] Should you recruit him in his Spotpass chapter, the player will discover, via supports and quotes, that he regrets ''all'' of the actions that he did for the first part of the game on an incredibly deep level, and he has absolutely nothing left to fight for. The Avatar cuts him a break (moreso if a female Avatar marries him), and he even looks out for [[LaserGuidedAmnesia Emmeryn]], the same woman he wanted dead, if she joins your group. Despite most of his actions being unjustifiable, Chrom is never able to forgive him. And Gangrel is ''painfully'' aware of how this is a consequence of his own actions -- even when he had a ''massive'' DarkAndTroubledPast, this is not enough of a reason for him to do the horrible things he did. (Walhart and Aversa, the other Atoners of the game, at least did the just-as-bad things they did after being brainwashed/manipulated by the Grimleal, unlike Gangrel who did them ''out of his own will''.)]]
21st Feb '17 10:11:55 AM GrigorII
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21st Feb '17 10:00:56 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Although far from totally reformed, Jaime knows nothing he can do will ever make some characters remember him as anything but TheOathbreaker.
10th Feb '17 10:55:49 AM Mdumas43073
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[[caption-width-right:350:Perhaps showing up at Thanksgiving with a CallBack to [[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2013/09/07/month-of-avengersx-men-top-fives-top-five-last-page-magneto-reveals/ X-Men 17]] was [[NotHelpingYourCase not a good idea]].]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Perhaps [[caption-width-right:300:Perhaps showing up at Thanksgiving with a CallBack to [[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2013/09/07/month-of-avengersx-men-top-fives-top-five-last-page-magneto-reveals/ X-Men 17]] was [[NotHelpingYourCase not a good idea]].]]
3rd Feb '17 5:05:10 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* In ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02'', even after Ken lost his Digimon and went into an emotional breakdown after he realized what he had done as the Digimon Emperor, most of the kids (mainly Yolei and Cody) were still very wary of his intentions. This was especially true when he used Wormmon to kill a rampaging Thundermon, rather than calming or trapping it. Then they learn in the next episode that the rogue Thundermon was actually created from a Control Spire and they start trusting him more (though Cody still refuses to completely accept him until the World Tour arc).

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* In ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02'', even after Ken lost his Digimon and went into an emotional breakdown after he realized what he had done as the Digimon Emperor, most of the kids (mainly Yolei Miyako and Cody) Iori) were still very wary of his intentions. This was especially true when he used Wormmon to kill a rampaging Thundermon, rather than calming or trapping it. Then they learn in the next episode that the rogue Thundermon was actually created from a Control Spire and they start trusting him more (though Cody Iori still refuses to completely accept him until the World Tour arc).



%%* [[spoiler: Gemini Kanon]] from ''SaintSeiya''.

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%%* * [[spoiler: Gemini Kanon]] from ''SaintSeiya''. ''SaintSeiya'' tries to pull this [[spoiler: and is completely honest. However, as he once was TheManBehindTheMan ''and'' the EvilTwin to the TragicHero Gemini Saga, the Saints do NOT believe his intentions. Milo even subjects him to a ''brutal'' SecretTestOfCharacter to make sure he's sincere.]]
25th Dec '16 10:18:38 AM Captain_Barbarossa
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* Dagur the Deranged in ''WesternAnimation/DragonsRidersOfBerk'' spent most of the series obsessively chasing after Hiccup and Toothless, eventually joining up with Viggo Grimborn and his Dragon Hunters. In the fifth season, however, he realizes that Viggo considers him -- like all of his men -- completely expendable, and he quickly deserts. After a chance meeting on a deserted island, Hiccup slowly comes to accept that Dagur's HeelFaceTurn is genuine, but when Dagur shows up on Dragon's Edge a few episodes later, he is understandibly met with distrust from everyone else, who believe that he might just be TheMole for Viggo, and especially [[spoiler:his sister Heather]], who is still furious at him for killing [[spoiler:both her adoptive family and their father]]. [[spoiler:Toward the end of the episode, he proves that he really did have a change of heart by flying straight into a trap that Hiccup and his friends didn't believe him about, [[RedemptionEqualsDeath seemingly sacrificing himself in the process.]]]]
10th Dec '16 3:23:14 PM Andyroid
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* Peridot in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', following her truce with the Crystal Gems in the latter half of season two. Her frequent [[FantasticRacism unintentional insults]], [[SmallNameBigEgo superiority complex]], and [[PoorCommunicationKills inability to properly explain her intentions]] led even '''[[ThePollyanna STEVEN]]''' to have doubts about her having changed for the better.

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* Peridot in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', following her truce with the Crystal Gems in the latter half of season two. Her frequent [[FantasticRacism unintentional insults]], [[SmallNameBigEgo superiority complex]], and [[PoorCommunicationKills inability to properly explain her intentions]] led even '''[[ThePollyanna STEVEN]]''' ''[[AllLovingHero Steven]]'' to have doubts about her having changed for the better.better. [[spoiler: Fortunately, she makes a full HeelFaceTurn after the events of "Message Received", and the Crystal Gems take her in as one of their own after Peridot turns her back on Yellow Diamond and Homeworld.]]
5th Dec '16 5:30:53 AM ClatoLawa
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* In ''Fanfic/BackToUs'', this happens to Chat Noir to varying degrees after he returns to Ladybug's side after a long stint as an anti-hero willing to kill akuma victims if it would end the threat. While Ladybug is ready to welcome back her partner with open arms after his heartfelt apology, Emerald Shell is grudging at best - he doesn't like him or trust him, but he's willing to work with him and see if he's serious about fixing the mess he created. The Paris public are largely hostile, with most former akuma victims still feeling betrayed (with exceptions such as Ivan and Alya) and the Anti-Akuma Taskforce feeling betrayed by his reformation, as they'd been following his example.
14th Nov '16 5:06:33 AM darkknight109
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* Critics of publicly-accessible criminal registries tend to cite this trope as a major contributor to high recidivism rates in jurisdictions that use them. Effectively, a criminal registry (and potential legal requirements to inform new acquaintances, romantic partners, or employers of their criminal past) can severely limit employment and socialization prospects for ex-convicts, even those who legitimately want to turn over a new leaf and are trying hard to do so.
5th Oct '16 11:33:34 PM Tron80
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** ComicBook/EmmaFrost. In ''Astonishing X-Men'', Kitty is unconvinced due to the past between them (Emma is literally the first supervillain Kitty ever encountered). Emma takes advantage of this trope by recruiting her to the "Astonishing X-Men" team so that she'll notice she's not really redeemed after all. [[spoiler:This doesn't help out the fact that this is Cassandra Nova's doing of manipulating her belief that she can't redeem herself]] leading to Kitty nearly killing Emma if it wasn't for Cyclops reminding her ''this is exactly what Emma wanted''. It doesn't take a while in ''Giant Size Astonishing X-Men'' #1 that they have their moment of reconciliation before [[spoiler:Kitty sacrifices her life in phasing the Breakworld's bullet through Earth]].

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** ComicBook/EmmaFrost. In ''Astonishing X-Men'', Kitty is unconvinced due to the past between them (Emma is literally the first supervillain Kitty ever encountered). Emma takes advantage of this trope by recruiting her to the "Astonishing X-Men" team so that she'll notice she's not really redeemed after all. [[spoiler:This doesn't help out the fact that this is Cassandra Nova's doing of manipulating her belief that she can't redeem herself]] leading to Kitty nearly killing Emma if it wasn't for Cyclops Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} reminding her ''this is exactly what Emma wanted''. It doesn't take a while in ''Giant Size Astonishing X-Men'' #1 that they have their moment of reconciliation before [[spoiler:Kitty sacrifices her life in phasing the Breakworld's bullet through Earth]].


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* ''Fanfic/GhostsOfEvangelion'' played with this. When Asuka's father wants to meet her and attempt to reconcile with her, Asuka is ''hugely'' tempted to tell him where he can shove his apology into, but she finally decides to be the best person and agrees to meet him and have a talk with him.
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