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3rd Feb '17 8:37:58 AM JustSomeGuy732
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* The initial end goal of why Rachel seeks to die in VideoGame/AngelsOfDeath is this [[spoilers:for she discovered that the murders of her own parents and her own screwed personality to be sinful and unacceptable to 'God'.]] She still wishes to die after she has come to terms with it, but by then, she wanted to be killed by Zack out of her own desire rather than as some form of forgiveness.
14th Jan '17 6:12:53 PM Gamermaster
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* Though most [[DefeatMeansFriendship redeemed villains]] [[HeelFaceTurn get to live and continue on as protagonists]] in ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', at least one character, [[spoiler:the first Reinforce]], got smacked with this via HeroicSacrifice shortly after her OmnicidalManiac side was dealt with. [[spoiler:She got better. Kinda.]]

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* Though most [[DefeatMeansFriendship redeemed villains]] [[HeelFaceTurn get to live and continue on as protagonists]] in ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', at least one character, [[spoiler:the first Reinforce]], got smacked with this via HeroicSacrifice shortly after her OmnicidalManiac side was dealt with. [[spoiler:She got better. Kinda.[[OurPhlebotinumChild Kinda]].]]
11th Jan '17 4:33:52 AM BreakinBenny
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* During the [[KillThemAll Genocide Run]] in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' you are offered a way out numerous times, one of the most prominent examples being [[spoiler: Papyrus]], who does not even try to fight you hoping you will do the right thing and not kill [[spoiler: him]]. That's what makes this trope so surprising when the Final Boss ([[spoiler: Sans]]) shows up. Midway through a fight [[ThatOneBoss that is deliberately designed to frustrate the player]] into [[RageQuit Rage Quitting]], you are offered a chance to back down and Spare the Boss. If you do so, [[spoiler: he]] will lure you into a false sense of security [[OneHitKill only to kill you in one hit]] because he considers you´ve done too much evil to be forgiven. Subverted in that you are still allowed to back down, by deleting your file therefore undoing all the harm that you caused, as he suggests you do.
** [[spoiler: Played straight at the end of the Genocide Run. At the very end, you are presented with two buttons; one to erase reality and the other to refuse to do so. If, for whatever reason, you refuse to do it, [[OmnicidalManiac The Fallen Child]] will instantly kill you and erase reality for you. Once more, there is a subtle, meta way to pull off your redemption. Simply put, exit the game and delete your file. This must be done before pressing any of the buttons, or else the consequences of your actions will forever haunt your game files.]]

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* During the [[KillThemAll Genocide Run]] in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' you are offered a way out numerous times, one of the most prominent examples being [[spoiler: Papyrus]], [[spoiler:Papyrus]], who does not even try to fight you hoping you will do the right thing and not kill [[spoiler: him]]. That's what makes this trope so surprising when the Final Boss ([[spoiler: Sans]]) ([[spoiler:Sans]]) shows up. Midway through a fight [[ThatOneBoss that is deliberately designed to frustrate the player]] into [[RageQuit Rage Quitting]], giving up]], you are offered a chance to back down and Spare the Boss. boss. If you do so, [[spoiler: he]] [[spoiler:he]] will lure you into a false sense of security [[OneHitKill only to kill you in one hit]] because he considers you´ve done too much evil to be forgiven. Subverted in that you are still allowed to back down, by deleting your file resetting and therefore undoing all the harm that you caused, as he suggests you do.
** [[spoiler: Played [[spoiler:Played straight at the end of the Genocide Run. At the very end, you are presented with two buttons; one to erase reality and the other to refuse to do so. If, for whatever reason, you refuse to do it, [[OmnicidalManiac The Fallen Child]] will instantly kill you and erase reality for you. Once more, there is a subtle, meta way to pull off your redemption. Simply put, exit the game and delete your file. This must be done before pressing any of the buttons, or else the consequences of your actions will forever haunt your game files.playthroughs.]]
2nd Jan '17 3:39:28 AM Phred
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfPussInBoots'' has Uli, who after unexpectedly feeling bad about betraying his friends to summon an AncientEvil, and after said evil decides he's going to [[EvilIsNotAToy destroy Uli along with everything else]], ultimately decides to steal TheChosenOne's amulet and use it to seal himself and the evil away forever.
25th Dec '16 6:29:43 PM Gamermaster
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* Though most [[DefeatMeansFriendship redeemed villains]] [[HeelFaceTurn get to live and continue on as protagonists]] in ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', at least one character, [[spoiler:the first Reinforce]], got smacked with this via HeroicSacrifice shortly after her OmnicidalManiac side was dealt with. [[spoiler:She got better. Kinda.]]

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* Though most [[DefeatMeansFriendship redeemed villains]] [[HeelFaceTurn get to live and continue on as protagonists]] in ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', at least one character, [[spoiler:the first Reinforce]], got smacked with this via HeroicSacrifice shortly after her OmnicidalManiac side was dealt with. [[spoiler:She got better. Kinda.]]
21st Dec '16 12:01:32 AM Xtifr
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* [[RoyalBlood Prince]] Ellidyr, the resident {{Jerkass}} in Creator/LloydAlexander's ''Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain'' spends most of ''The Black Cauldron'' putting down the main character for being lowly born and eventually betrays the party to satisfy his own lust for glory. At the end, he realizes the error of his ways and makes a HeroicSacrifice to destroy the titular ArtifactOfDoom before it can be used on the heroes.

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* [[RoyalBlood Prince]] Ellidyr, the resident {{Jerkass}} in Creator/LloydAlexander's ''Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain'' ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain'' spends most of ''The Black Cauldron'' putting down the main character for being lowly born and eventually betrays the party to satisfy his own lust for glory. At the end, he realizes the error of his ways and makes a HeroicSacrifice to destroy the titular ArtifactOfDoom before it can be used on the heroes.
17th Nov '16 12:09:53 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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--->'''[[spoiler: Lorelei:]]''' You have done ''admirably.''

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--->'''[[spoiler: -->'''[[spoiler: Lorelei:]]''' You have done ''admirably.''



---> Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, [[BeAllMySinsRemembered the ill deeds along with the good]], and let me be judged accordingly. [[ShoutOut/ToShakespeare The rest... is silence]].

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---> --> Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, [[BeAllMySinsRemembered the ill deeds along with the good]], and let me be judged accordingly. [[ShoutOut/ToShakespeare The rest... is silence]].
14th Nov '16 12:25:28 AM KingClark
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* ''VideoGame/LANoire'' features this [at the ending, with Cole sacrificing himself in a flooding sewer tunnel to save Elsa and Jack.

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* ''VideoGame/LANoire'' features this [at at the ending, with Cole sacrificing himself in a flooding sewer tunnel to save Elsa and Jack.
5th Nov '16 10:10:27 PM nombretomado
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* In ''IronManArmoredAdventures'', The Living Laser, who spent most of the series searching for his purpose in life, ends up sacrificing himself to help stop M.O.D.O.C. and save Iron Man's life after Tony Stark had shown him kindness when no one else in his life had.
** The second season later inverts this when Mr. Fix brings him back to life.

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* In ''IronManArmoredAdventures'', ''WesternAnimation/IronManArmoredAdventures'', The Living Laser, who spent most of the series searching for his purpose in life, ends up sacrificing himself to help stop M.O.D.O.C. and save Iron Man's life after Tony Stark had shown him kindness when no one else in his life had.
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had. However, the second season later inverts this when Mr. Fix brings him back to life.
2nd Nov '16 6:58:45 PM MasterGhandalf
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* Discussed in ''Literature/TheDaggerAndTheCoin''. [[VillainProtagonist Geder]] ends up sacrificing himself to destroy the PathOfInspiration be helped bring to power after realizing how the cult had been using him. The heroes explicitly discuss whether or not he achieved any measure of redemption for his crimes as Lord Regent by doing so; [[KnightInSourArmor Marcus]] doesn't buy it, while [[GuileHero Cithrin]] is more ambivalent.
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