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31st Jan '16 4:30:00 PM Quanyails
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** In VideoGame/ResidentEvil6, The BSAA squad led by Chris Redfield pretty much counts during one part of the China level. They're hunting down a gigantic viper that can turn invisible at will. The squad, while marginally helpful up until now, begins helplessly dying off one by one. Some of them even need to be bailed out, but will still bite the dust at some point. In fact, they pretty much exist for the sole purpose of making the snake boss seem all that much more intimidating. Only one squad member survives the ordeal, only to be killed by Ada[[spoiler:/Carla]] a little bit later.
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** In VideoGame/ResidentEvil6, ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'', The BSAA squad led by Chris Redfield pretty much counts during one part of the China level. They're hunting down a gigantic viper that can turn invisible at will. The squad, while marginally helpful up until now, begins helplessly dying off one by one. Some of them even need to be bailed out, but will still bite the dust at some point. In fact, they pretty much exist for the sole purpose of making the snake boss seem all that much more intimidating. Only one squad member survives the ordeal, only to be killed by Ada[[spoiler:/Carla]] a little bit later.
29th Jan '16 5:33:52 AM Ohio9
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** The Navy [=SEALs=] in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'' were doing pretty well until a super-speed vampire and a woman packing an energy shield and a {{BFG}} came along). To be even more fair, it did turn out that [[spoiler:the Patriots sent them in so they would fail]].
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** The In in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', the Marines on the tanker get effortlessly slaughtered by Russian mercenaries. Then they just stand around doing nothing while Ocelot murders their commanding officer and sets off explosives to sink the ship. Later on, the Navy [=SEALs=] in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'' were are doing pretty well until a super-speed vampire and a woman packing an energy shield and a {{BFG}} came along). To be even more fair, it did turn out that [[spoiler:the Patriots sent them in so they would fail]].
26th Jan '16 5:28:00 AM Larkmarn
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Please don't add back before discussion takes place.
While ''Franchise/StarTrek'' has the dubious honor of being the {{Trope Namer|s}}, the Trope is actually ''very'' inaccurate if [[RealityIsUnrealistic you compare the franchise to]] RealLife. If you were to watch ''every'' episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', count the number of casualties that the ''Enterprise'' had (including those who didn't wear red, which as stated below, happened ''much'' more often than many might believe), and then compare that to an actual military unit, you'd see that Kirk's record as a leader in this regard is ''excellent'', far better than any general in U.S. history. (And he is almost always [[BerserkButton enraged when it happens.]]) Even war heroes like UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington and UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower had proportionately more casualties among their troops. But apparently in the "Star Trek T.O.S.," there were more in gold than red who were killed off. But the notorious "Redshirt Deaths" were really mostly the security officers who would die--as all henchmen in just about any genre tend to--just for effect.
25th Jan '16 6:49:03 PM MarkWilder
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Supplimentary edit to previous edit, adding context to Star Trek's Redshirt death counts.
* ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'': ** This is the {{Trope Namer|s}}, where the Enterprise's security personnel wore red shirts and were, to say the very least, [[RedShirt expendable]]. ** This was a frontier-mission that was so dangerous, that of 12 starships-- each identical, the most powerful class in Earth's fleet-- only Kirk's ship and crew even ''survived.'' As Kirk put it, "risk, is our ''business.''" ** This is false. Only ''Constellation'', ''Intrepid'', ''Excalibur'', ''Exeter'' and ''Defiant'' (the latter 3 crew only) were lost. The ''Excalibur'' was presumably salvageable, and the ''Defiant'' was transported to the MirrorUniverse. That's still a high casualty rate but the ''Enterprise'' was not the only survivor. ** Ironically, throughout [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries the original series]] the security officers tended ''not'' to be picked off as quickly as were their more [[RedShirt unfortunate shipmates]]. In the first season and second seasons, especially, it was the men and women wearing the ''blue'' uniforms who seemed far more susceptible to...well, death. ** The ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' two-parter "The Best of Both Worlds" saw a single Borg cube wipe out 39 Starfleet ships, [[spoiler:only to be defeated by some HollywoodHacking on the part of Data and Picard]].
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* ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'': ''Franchise/StarTrek'': ** This is The first broadcast episode of the original series ("The Man Trap") has a body count of four minor crewmen, most of whom of course become monster chow shortly after beaming down to the planet. Ironically, the casualties are two blues, a gold and one unknown wearing a hazmat suit. ** Despite it being the {{Trope Namer|s}}, where quite a few of the Enterprise's security personnel wore red characters that die in ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' are blue shirts and were, to say or gold shirts. In fact, no red shirt deaths occur until the very least, [[RedShirt expendable]]. ** This was seventh episode. The dubious honor goes to Crewman Mathews, who is pushed into a frontier-mission that was so dangerous, that of 12 starships-- each identical, the most powerful class bottomless pit in Earth's fleet-- only Kirk's ship and crew even ''survived.'' As Kirk put it, "risk, is our ''business.''" "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" ** This is false. Only ''Constellation'', ''Intrepid'', ''Excalibur'', ''Exeter'' averted in "A Taste of Armageddon". Kirk, Spock, and ''Defiant'' (the latter 3 crew only) were lost. The ''Excalibur'' was presumably salvageable, and the ''Defiant'' was transported three redshirts beam down to the MirrorUniverse. That's still a high casualty rate but the ''Enterprise'' was not Eminiar VII where, upon landing, they are sent to be killed. ''All'' of them survive. ** Scotty is practically the only survivor. ** Ironically, throughout [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries named character to wear a red shirt in the original series]] series, and he's one of the few characters to survive into "Next Generation." *** He does get killed once, but [[OnlyMostlyDead he gets better]]. ** As Creator/NichelleNichols points out in one of her ME-TV promos, she wore red all the way through the series -- "guess I just wore it better!" ** An interesting case also occurs in "By Any Other Name". Two redshirts are [[AndIMustScream turned into crystals]], one of whom is a hot female yeoman, who would usually survive. The other is a more typical [[MenAreTheExpendableGender male]] security officers tended ''not'' to be picked off as quickly as were their officer and is also {{black|DudeDiesFirst}}. [[WouldHitAGirl It's the former that gets crushed into powder, however.]] ** There is in fact an even more [[RedShirt unfortunate shipmates]]. In color to be wearing, but it's more obscure: The [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Hansen_(Commander) two]] [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Harold characters]] who wore the first season and second seasons, especially, it was same beigey-yellow shirt both died in attacks on outposts, along with everyone with them. ** Even the men and women wearing engineers (non-security redshirts during ''TOS'') aren't safe, as shown in "The Ultimate Computer". ** According to [[http://www.sitelogicmarketing.com/blog/02-analytics-according-to-captain-kirk this]] article about analytics, red shirts do, in fact, die the ''blue'' most in TOS (74% of all Enterprise crew deaths.) ** According to [[http://youtu.be/GRp92HXDlgY?t=1m50s another set of statistics about Star Trek deaths]], red shirt deaths actually ''only'' make up 58% of the deaths. However, since there are so many red shirts, their ''mortality rate'' is actually lower than the yellow shirts' (25 of 239 (about 10.5%) compared to 10 of 55 (about 18%)). In fact, even if you go by 43 being the number of red shirt deaths, the yellow shirts ''still'' have a slightly higher mortality rate. ** Later incarnations of ''Star Trek'' (''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'') invert the term by switching uniform colors. Command staff in ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' wore yellowish uniforms who seemed far more susceptible to...well, death. ** and operations staff (such as security) red; from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' on this was swapped, making gold shirts the new target of preference while red shirts were usually safe and secure on bridge duty if not for the [[ExplosiveInstrumentation usual exploding console]]. The ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' two-parter "The Best of Both Worlds" saw a single Borg cube wipe out 39 Starfleet ships, [[spoiler:only first goldshirt to be defeated by some HollywoodHacking receive this honor was Lt. Singh in "Lonely Among Us". ** Not always, though, as the helm officer on the part ''Enterprise''-D was generally a redshirted ensign whose main function was to underscore how great the danger to the ship was by being the person on the bridge to die because of Data and Picard]].exploding consoles/suddenly materialising aliens/subspace phenomenon of the week/sentient voids in space/etc. Probably the best example is Ensign Haskell, who [[LargeHam died an energetic death]] in "Where Silence Has Lease".
25th Jan '16 6:44:13 PM MarkWilder
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The comparison is accurate: the Starship Enterprise often found itself fighting Klingon Warships, Doomsday Machines, invisible Romulan Warbirds, and various other military threats.
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While ''Franchise/StarTrek'' has the dubious honor of being the {{Trope Namer|s}}, the Trope is actually ''very'' inaccurate if [[RealityIsUnrealistic you compare the franchise to]] RealLife. If you were to watch ''every'' episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', count the number of casualties that the ''Enterprise'' had (including those who didn't wear red, which as stated below, happened ''much'' more often than many might believe), and then compare that to an actual military unit, you'd see that Kirk's record as a leader in this regard is ''excellent'', far better than any general in U.S. history. (And he is almost always [[BerserkButton enraged when it happens.]]) Even war heroes like UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington and UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower had proportionately more casualties among their troops. But apparently in the "Star Trek T.O.S.," there were more in gold than red who were killed off. But the notorious "Redshirt Deaths" were really mostly the security officers who would die--as all henchmen in just about any genre tend to--just for effect.
22nd Jan '16 4:39:09 PM jjeffrey01
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' As of season 5 the Unsullied stated repeatedly of being the best army in the world are turning into this.
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' As of ''Series/GameOfThrones'': **In season 5 the Unsullied Unsullied, stated repeatedly of being the best army in the world world, are turning into this.this. **[[spoiler:Stannis Baratheon's army becomes this when they face the much larger and less weary Bolton cavalry.]]
13th Jan '16 8:31:21 AM Larkmarn
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Pulling per discussion.
This Trope is actually ''very'' inaccurate [[RealityIsUnrealistic when you compare it to]] RealLife. If you were to watch ''every'' episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', count the number of casualties that the ''Enterprise'' had, and then compare that to an actual military, you'd see that Kirk's record as a leader in this regard is ''excellent'', far better than any general in U.S. history. Even war heroes like UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington and UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower had proportionately more casualties among their troops.[[note]]Before you take this line of thought ''too'' far, it should be noted that Washington and Eisenhower were in command during actual ''wars''; it would be more appropriate to compare Kirk's casualty rate of to units on exploratory, rather than combat, missions.[[/note]]
7th Jan '16 11:07:14 AM Ohio9
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* The same can be said for the secret service, capitol police, national guard, and especially [[ElitesAreMoreGlamorous Delta Force]], in ''Film/WhiteHouseDown''.
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* The same can be said for the secret service, capitol police, national guard, and especially [[ElitesAreMoreGlamorous Delta Force]], in ''Film/WhiteHouseDown''. White House Down offers a paricularly glaring example, as the entire White House is taken over be a mere handfull of terrorists who suffer no casualties in the process
23rd Dec '15 12:37:31 AM mrnickname
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** It's easy to believe the band of the Hawk consists of only Guts, Caska, Griffith and the Raiders. Their actual numbers are somewhere around 5,000 men, but all focus is put on the former mentioned members.
24th Nov '15 1:08:12 AM NoxSky12599
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* The Marines of ''Manga/OnePiece'', despite antagonizing the protagonists, who ''are'' pirates, are full of people who legitimately want to make the world a safer place, KnightTemplar WellIntentionedExtremist members aside. However, they are mostly victims of TheWorfEffect, and by the time of the Paramount War arc, anyone who isn't a member of the admiralty can get swept aside with ease.
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* *''Manga/OnePiece'': ** The Marines of ''Manga/OnePiece'', Marines, despite antagonizing the protagonists, who ''are'' pirates, are full of people who legitimately want to make the world a safer place, KnightTemplar WellIntentionedExtremist members aside. However, they are mostly victims of TheWorfEffect, and by the time of the Paramount War arc, anyone who isn't a member of the admiralty can get swept aside with ease.
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