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29th Jun '16 4:18:26 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans", the Gundam Barbatos is in perfect working condition even after not seeing combat for over 300 years. Subverted for other Gundam Frames - out of the 72, only 26 actually survived to the present day.

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* In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans", ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'', the Gundam Barbatos is in perfect working condition even after not seeing combat for over 300 years. Subverted for other Gundam Frames - out of the 72, only 26 actually survived to the present day.


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* The Protoculture of ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' may have disappeared almost 500,000 years ago, but their creations are still in perfect working order.
29th Jun '16 6:34:11 AM ScorpiusOB1
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* Averted in ''Literature/Titan'' by Creator/StephenBaxter. Near the end of the book, we get a glimpse of how the Voyager 1 probe disintegrates after five billion years of space weathering[[note]]Things in space can last ''a lot'' of time; see RealLife at the bottom[[/note]].
* Averted (sort of) in ''Deep Time'', a divulgative book of astronomy, with the Voyager (2) probe. The book follows it into a TimeAbyss that includes the deaths of both [[TheStarsAreGoingOut stars]] first and galaxies later, until proton decay finally wipes out what remains of the spacecraft.
16th Jun '16 12:25:37 PM Lightice
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** At least in the case of the Elder Things, their city may have been ''founded'' billions of years ago, but it was only ultimately abandoned a mere 500,000 years in the past, which is certainly enough time for a solid stone structure to survive in favourable conditions. The story also features an aversion: all the sophisticated machinery that the Elder Things portray in their murals has crumbled into little more than dust over the millennia.


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* ''Literature/TheLongEarth''-saga's third book, ''The Long Mars'', features a space elevator built on one of the countless iterations of the red planet that is otherwise all but lifeless. Everything else created by the civilisation that built the elevator has crumbled into nothing, but the cable alone still reaches into the sky, jutting from a featureless bit of bare ground at the bottom of a 20-mile deep shaft.
8th Jun '16 5:13:57 PM Discar
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[[folder:In reality, time isn't so kind to abandoned things.]]

Metal, no matter how well protected, will eventually succumb to the elements and corrode. After about 75 years, cars and other large machines will turn into almost unrecognizable piles of rust while the fuel, oil and other lubricants inside them will go bad long before that. (It is common practice to drain or put fuel stabilizer chemicals in the gasoline tank of equipment not being used for a few ''months'', like lawn cutting equipment and boats during late fall, winter and early spring; snowmobiles during early spring through late fall, etc.) The same fate awaits the rubber in the tires, hoses and accessory belts, which will inevitably crumble from dry rot. Long before any of that happens, the car will have become an immobile lump as batteries lose their charge, tires slowly leak air, and the brakes rust up and seize from disuse, conditions known as "lot rot".

Large scale structures fare no better. In many climates, wooden frame buildings will last about 50 years before falling apart thanks to termites and rotting. Large bridges will collapse after only a century, and most skyscrapers will collapse around the 200-300 year mark. After 500 years, nearly all concrete structures still standing will crumble as their steel reinforcements corrode. See Creator/TheHistoryChannel's Series/{{Life After|People}} [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBtHICMmDJk People]] for more information. And this is all assuming that a natural disaster like a tornado, earthquake, or hurricane doesn't destroy it all first (how much of Florida would survive 10 years if people weren't around to board everything up each summer?). It also ignores the likelihood that whatever arises after the fall of society would knock it down/[[DisasterScavengers scavenge it themselves]] instead of just waiting for nature to do the job.

Modern technology isn't immune either. All but the simplest electronics will fail after decades of being unused. Electrolytic capacitors dry out (or succumb to the capacitor plague), batteries self-discharge and leak, flash memory very slowly fades away, and the chassis and contacts rust and corrode. Lead free solder grows tin-whiskers, creating short circuits; hard discs rot or degrade, and the skin of optical media such as Blu-Rays and [=DVDs=] corrodes, rendering the disc illegible (aka "CD rot").

After a thousand years of no human activity, the Earth would look much like it was before humans, and few obvious traces of civilization would be left. Some plastic types, if buried underground (away from UV radiation) would keep for a long time until something figured out how to properly eat them; anything made out of bronze is expected to last for millions of years (so cast your memoirs with it); major cities, being massive conglomerations of artificial rock on the scale of a coral reef or lava flow, would leave traces in the geological record discernible for several hundred million years; depleted uranium would remain detectably depleted for billions of years -- but none of this would be visible to a casual observer, or even a medieval society, and little of it would be immediately recognizable to future visitors.

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29th May '16 9:04:09 PM DastardlyDemolition
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*** Remember, this is a divergent timeline with an AtomPunk setting. While it lags behind our own in certain departments such as computation (Although even with vacuum tubes instead of integrated circuits, they somehow have functional AI and humanoid robots), this setting has widespread use of portable fission power. Before the nuclear holocaust, pretty much everything in the US used to run on self-contained reactors, which could in theory remain operational for hundreds of years. Of course, they're still in need of incredibly resilient reaction control mechanisms and functional cooling to prevent a runaway meltdown...

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*** Remember, this is a divergent timeline with an AtomPunk setting. While it lags behind our own in certain departments such as computation (Although even with vacuum tubes instead of integrated circuits, they somehow have functional AI and humanoid robots), this setting has widespread use of portable fission power. Before the nuclear holocaust, pretty much everything in the US used to run on self-contained reactors, reactors[[note]]Well, almost everything. [[http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline#2066 The lore]] states that while there was a lot of fusion generators produced, not everyone could get them and the war slowed what little progress there was on them[[/note]], which could in theory remain operational for hundreds of years. Of course, they're still in need of incredibly resilient reaction control mechanisms and functional cooling to prevent a runaway meltdown...
28th May '16 6:58:17 PM DarkHunter
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** One unexplained example are the cave paintings Shepard finds in the ''Leviathan'' DLC for the third game, which are heavily implied to have been painted ''before'' [[spoiler:the Reapers ever started their extermination cycles]]. If true, this would make those paintings ''at least'' a billion years old. Very impressive stone-age paint to have lasted that long on a planetary surface, not to mention the rock should have long since eroded away.
22nd May '16 1:23:27 PM Discar
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** In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', the skyscrapers of Boston are somehow still standing after 210 years of neglect, complete with functional elevators. There are also many somewhat intact sections of elevated highways, some of which are used as settlements or raider/mercenary bases.

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skyscrapers of Boston are somehow still standing after 210 years of neglect, complete with functional elevators. There are also many somewhat intact sections of elevated highways, some of which are used as settlements or raider/mercenary bases.


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*** Most of the houses still have recognizable paint, wallpaper, and sometimes even Halloween decorations. The fridge in your own home has post-it notes which are still perfectly legible.
20th May '16 3:46:12 PM Adeon
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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87atalh%C3%B6y%C3%BCk Çatalhöyük]] dates back to 7500 BC and yet still has remains still intact enough for us to reconstruct their culture, although much of it had to be dug up and restored. It's the best-preserved Neolithic site.

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* [[http://en.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87atalh%C3%B6y%C3%BCk org/wiki/Catalhoyuk Çatalhöyük]] dates back to 7500 BC and yet still has remains still intact enough for us to reconstruct their culture, although much of it had to be dug up and restored. It's the best-preserved Neolithic site.
11th May '16 8:57:12 AM BreadBull
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-->[[spoiler:Ford]]: "This place would've been heavily guarded, but [[DramaticIrony now everything's defunct]]. Go ahead, flip any switch. [[InstantlyProvenWrong They've all been busted for millions of years]]."
11th May '16 8:54:52 AM BreadBull
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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' "Dipper and Mabel vs. The Future" features Dipper and [[spoiler: Ford]] exploring a [[spoiler: spaceship that crash-landed on Earth millions of years ago]]. Yet despite this, the control panel and security system still work perfectly after all this time (as well as a variety of other stuff that [[spoiler: Ford likely scavenged out of the ship]]).
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