History Main / PretendPrejudice

26th Apr '18 1:24:03 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** Vimes is an equal-opportunity bigot. He thinks that everyone sucks. But he clearly thinks that vampires [[{{Pun}} suck worse than anyone else]], and goes out of his way to avoid hiring vampires until directly order to by the Patrician. Though it might be because vampires strongly remind him of aristocrats, who he sees as lazy and corrupt (because most of the ones he has to deal with are). Lady Margoletta seems to think it's Freudian. Or, to quote: "There are coppers, and there is everyone else." His categorization of "everyone else" mostly consists of "morons" and "suspects".

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** Vimes is an equal-opportunity bigot. He [[HatesEveryoneEqually thinks that everyone sucks.sucks]]. But he clearly thinks that vampires [[{{Pun}} suck worse than anyone else]], and goes out of his way to avoid hiring vampires until directly order to by the Patrician. Though it might be because vampires strongly remind him of aristocrats, who he sees as lazy and corrupt (because most of the ones he has to deal with are). Lady Margoletta seems to think it's Freudian. Or, to quote: "There are coppers, and there is everyone else." His categorization of "everyone else" mostly consists of "morons" and "suspects".
20th Feb '18 4:35:12 AM WillBGood
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Belkar is kind of an inversion of the trope -- pretty much every example on that list of ways his prejudice is "pretend" can be explained by the fact that it appeals to his nasty or duplicitous side (Roy in particular has mentioned that [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame when Belkar agrees with him, he knows he's doing something wrong]], and Shojo earned his admiration by being a major MagnificentBastard quite apart from any discussion of CharacterAlignment), but ever since he had a hallucination that told him he could achieve much more long-term mayhem by faking CharacterDevelopment for the short term, he's been pretending to be a much more complex and nuanced character; Pretend Tolerance, kind of thing. Though an element of BecomingTheMask has cropped up as well, with Belkar starting to feel very occasional moments of actual empathy despite ''wanting'' to remain just as self-interested and immoral as before.

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Belkar is kind of an inversion of the trope -- pretty much every example on that list of ways his prejudice is "pretend" can be explained by the fact that it appeals to his nasty or duplicitous side (Roy in particular has mentioned that [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame when Belkar agrees with him, he knows he's doing something wrong]], and Shojo earned his admiration by being a major MagnificentBastard quite apart from any discussion of CharacterAlignment), but ever since he had a hallucination that told him he could achieve much more long-term mayhem by faking CharacterDevelopment for the short term, he's been pretending to be a much more complex and nuanced character; Pretend Tolerance, kind of thing. Though an element of BecomingTheMask has cropped up as well, with Belkar starting to feel very occasional moments of actual empathy despite ''wanting'' to remain just as self-interested and immoral amoral as before.
24th Nov '17 5:22:06 AM tropeminer
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* Eddie Valiant in ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' with toons, because one killed his old partner. It doesn't stop him from becoming good friends with Roger though ([[VitriolicBestBuds much to his chagrin]]). Even before he comes into contact with Roger, Eddie is shown to be on good terms with Betty Boop, and openly lusts after Jessica Rabbit ([[PerverseSexualLust along with the rest of the male population... and some females out there as well]]). Before the death of said partner (who was also his brother), the two actually specialized in Toon cases because they thought Toons were such a gas. Eddie becoming friends with Roger is sort of him relearning why Valiant & Valiant used to do the sort of work they did.

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* Eddie Valiant in ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' with toons, because one killed his old partner.brother. It doesn't stop him from becoming good friends with Roger though ([[VitriolicBestBuds much to his chagrin]]). Even before he comes into contact with Roger, Eddie is shown to be on good terms with Betty Boop, and openly lusts after Jessica Rabbit ([[PerverseSexualLust along with the rest of the male population... and some females out there as well]]). Before the death of said partner (who was also his brother), brother's death, the two actually specialized in Toon cases because they thought Toons were such a gas. Eddie becoming friends with befriending Roger is sort of him relearning why Valiant & Valiant used to do the sort of work they did.
15th Oct '17 3:18:26 PM PixelKnight
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** Sam Vimes supposedly has a high degree of FantasticRacism, but this almost seems like an InformedFlaw in order to invoke the NobleBigotWithABadge idea. In any case, the Watch he commands contains men, women, dwarfs, openly female dwarfs, trolls, a werewolf, a zombie, a golem, a vampire, gnomes, [[TheIgor an Igor]], gargoyles, at least one local equivalent of a Jehovah's Witness, a government auditor, and [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg Nobby Nobbs]]. The Watch is noted as being the single most culturally diverse workplace in Ankh-Morpork.\\\
Vimes is an equal-opportunity bigot. He thinks that everyone sucks. But he clearly thinks that vampires [[{{Pun}} suck worse than anyone else]], and goes out of his way to avoid hiring vampires until directly order to by the Patrician. Though it might be because vampires strongly remind him of aristocrats, who he sees as lazy and corrupt (because most of the ones he has to deal with are). Lady Margoletta seems to think it's Freudian. Or, to quote: "There are coppers, and there is everyone else." His categorization of "everyone else" mostly consists of "morons" and "suspects".

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** Sam Vimes supposedly has a high degree of FantasticRacism, but this almost seems like an InformedFlaw in order to invoke the NobleBigotWithABadge idea. In any case, the Watch he commands contains men, women, dwarfs, openly female dwarfs, trolls, a werewolf, a zombie, a golem, a vampire, gnomes, [[TheIgor an Igor]], gargoyles, at least one local equivalent of a Jehovah's Witness, a government auditor, and [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg Nobby Nobbs]]. The Watch is noted as being the single most culturally diverse workplace in Ankh-Morpork.\\\
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Vimes is an equal-opportunity bigot. He thinks that everyone sucks. But he clearly thinks that vampires [[{{Pun}} suck worse than anyone else]], and goes out of his way to avoid hiring vampires until directly order to by the Patrician. Though it might be because vampires strongly remind him of aristocrats, who he sees as lazy and corrupt (because most of the ones he has to deal with are). Lady Margoletta seems to think it's Freudian. Or, to quote: "There are coppers, and there is everyone else." His categorization of "everyone else" mostly consists of "morons" and "suspects".
23rd Aug '17 3:04:01 PM StarTropes
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* On ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'', TheSquad runs into a neo-Nazi group, with one member named Star Morrison being especially vicious with the racial slurs. When things get hairy, she reveals herself as [[TheMole an FBI mole]] named Dana Lewis. After TheReveal, she makes peace with Munch and Finn.
2nd Jul '17 1:34:13 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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There are many possible motivations for Pretend Prejudice. Perhaps someone lives in a time when prejudice is more socially acceptable than tolerance. Perhaps he works for an X-ist employer and wants to protect his position. Or he could join an X-ist organization as TheMole and use his position to protect members of group X. He could be reacting out of crass cynicism, reasoning (or at least rationalizing) that people ''already'' believe he is prejudiced due to [[NotSoDifferent prejudices of their own]], so he might as well do something to deserve it. Or he might like members of the Y-group as ''[[YouAreACreditToYourRace individuals]]'', but find them annoying collectively [[StopBeingStereotypical ("If they don't want to be called [slur], they should stop acting like [slur]!").]]

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There are many possible motivations for Pretend Prejudice. Perhaps someone lives in a time when prejudice is more socially acceptable than tolerance. Perhaps he works for an X-ist employer and wants to protect his position. Or he could join an X-ist organization as TheMole and use his position to protect members of group X. He could be reacting out of crass cynicism, reasoning (or at least rationalizing) that people ''already'' believe he is prejudiced due to [[NotSoDifferent prejudices of their own]], [[ThenLetMeBeEvil so he might as well do something to deserve it.it]]. Or he might like members of the Y-group as ''[[YouAreACreditToYourRace individuals]]'', but find them annoying collectively [[StopBeingStereotypical ("If they don't want to be called [slur], they should stop acting like [slur]!").]]
20th Jan '17 5:56:09 PM Onlythrice
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* A Renegade Shepard can come across this way in ''VideoGame/MassEffect'', expressing borderline-bigoted "humans-first" views while staffing her ship with non-humans and even BoldlyComing should she be so inclined. It's also impossible to play the game without ever including a non-human teammate on a mission, since [[spoiler: one of your two human teammates dies on Virmire]] and you must have [[ArbitraryHeadcountLimit two companions]] at all times.

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* A Renegade Shepard can come across this way in ''VideoGame/MassEffect'', expressing borderline-bigoted "humans-first" views while staffing his or her ship with non-humans and even BoldlyComing should she (s)he be so inclined. It's also impossible to play the game without ever including a non-human teammate on a mission, since [[spoiler: one of your two human teammates dies on Virmire]] and you must have [[ArbitraryHeadcountLimit two companions]] at all times.
17th Nov '16 10:09:59 AM BillWoods
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* The title character on ''Series/{{House}}"' is a PoliticallyIncorrectHero to begin with, but he plays it up strategically. In one episode he distracts a Roma patient's family from interfering in his tests by loudly using the term "gyp" within earshot of the father.

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* The title character on ''Series/{{House}}"' ''Series/{{House}}'' is a PoliticallyIncorrectHero to begin with, but he plays it up strategically. In one episode he distracts a Roma patient's family from interfering in his tests by loudly using the term "gyp" within earshot of the father.
24th Oct '16 9:42:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* Mitt Romney, in [[http://www.theonion.com/video/mitt-romney-defends-himself-against-allegations-of,14201/ this video]] from TheOnion.

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* Mitt Romney, in [[http://www.theonion.com/video/mitt-romney-defends-himself-against-allegations-of,14201/ this video]] from TheOnion.Website/TheOnion.
23rd Sep '16 8:26:16 AM Heisst
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* Reimu Hakurei, from the ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' series, is a shrine maiden whose job is to exterminate japanese folklore creatures known as youkai. Yet, despite her aggression towards them, she will usually befriend the culprits after solving an incident and even drink tea with them. Akyuu states that "extermination" basically means "rough up a bit" to her.
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