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21st May '18 7:33:10 AM nmn3r3
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** ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' revels in this. Class advantages reign supreme in terms of dealing damage, and AOE Noble Phantasms will deal less individual damage than single-target Noble Phantasms. In other words, Sasaki Kojirou's Swallow Reversal will kill huge dragons faster than Gilgamesh's world-wrecking Ea will. It's worse for the player-controlled Servants, as enemies can and will have access to multiple huge health bars and permanent buffs. You can collect the likes of Heracles, Ozymandias, or Karna, raise them up to their strongest level, and then watch as the likes of Mata Hari or Aŋra Mainiiu make mincemeat out of them if they happen to be your next boss battle.
*** That said, story-wise battles are portrayed with as much accuracy to the lore as they can get away with. Also, Nerofest exhibition matches pit the player against [[SNKBoss Servants with more access to their lore-exclusive abilities]].
20th May '18 11:31:19 PM Delnoir
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* ''VideoGame/BlazblueCrossTagBattle''. Quite inevitable given the massive discrepancies in power between the four franchises. At the high end of the scale we have ''Blazblue'' powerhouses like Ragna (fighting and winning against a world superpower alone and effectively becomes a god-slayer), Hazama (as powerful as Ragna), Hakumen (killed an Eldritch Abomination that devastated the entire world singlehandedly in the past) and Azrael (so overwhelmingly powerful that even Hakumen runs away from him). At the lower end of the scale are the ''RWBY'' heroines who have mostly fought just ordinary human {{Mooks}}, slightly-superhuman {{Elite Mook}}s and the occasional building-levelling giant monster in groups; that is to say nothing of their relative inexperience, as they are high schoolers going up against many characters who have years or [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld in some cases]] ''centuries'' of fighting experience over them.

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* ''VideoGame/BlazblueCrossTagBattle''. Quite inevitable given the massive discrepancies in power between the four franchises. At the high end of the scale we have ''Blazblue'' powerhouses like Ragna (fighting and winning against a world superpower alone and effectively becomes a god-slayer), Hazama (as powerful as Ragna), Hakumen (killed an Eldritch Abomination that devastated the entire world singlehandedly in the past) and Azrael (so overwhelmingly powerful that even Hakumen runs away from him). At the lower end of the scale are the ''RWBY'' heroines who have mostly fought just ordinary human {{Mooks}}, slightly-superhuman {{Elite Mook}}s and the occasional building-levelling giant monster in groups; that is to say nothing of their relative inexperience, as they are high schoolers going up against many characters who have years or [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld in some cases]] ''centuries'' of fighting experience over them. Blake even lampshades it in her interactions with Ragna, telling him that he could never understand how hard she has to try to keep up with the fight.
19th May '18 11:18:20 PM FirstStrike
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* In ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', pretty much all of the heroes and villains (including the Justice League) were noticeably weaker than their modern comic incarnations. WordOfGod from Creator/GregWeisman is that they're more in line with pre-Creep interpretations and that this made the [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters huge amount of super-powered characters]] more manageable.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', pretty ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'':
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much all of the heroes and villains (including the Justice League) were noticeably weaker than their modern comic incarnations. WordOfGod from Creator/GregWeisman is that they're more in line with pre-Creep interpretations and that this made the [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters huge amount of super-powered characters]] more manageable.manageable.
** A specific example of this in action happened. In Season 1, Superboy was introduced as by far the most powerful member of the Team, having mopped the floor with Aqualad, Robin and Kid Flash with little effort. Then in Season 2, Superboy fights Aqualad all by himself... and is effortlessly [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomped]]. The only explanation fans gave was that Aqualad's fighting skill improved between seasons, but it wasn't really shown all that well.
12th May '18 3:33:19 AM FirstStrike
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* In ''VideoGame/SpiderManShatteredDimensions'', Amazing Spider-Man takes out TheJuggernaut in a fistfight. Granted, Spidey ''[[OlderThanTheyThink has]]'' defeated Juggernaut in the comics, but he did so by forcing him to the ground with his might and trapping him cement. Here, it's {{handwave}}d by suggesting that [[spoiler:the power of the [[MacGuffin Tablet Fragment]] is messing with Juggy's Gem of Cyttorak-given power]].

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* In ''VideoGame/SpiderManShatteredDimensions'', Amazing Spider-Man takes out TheJuggernaut in a fistfight. Granted, Spidey ''[[OlderThanTheyThink has]]'' defeated Juggernaut in the comics, but he did so by forcing him to the ground with his might and trapping him in cement. Here, it's {{handwave}}d by suggesting that [[spoiler:the power of the [[MacGuffin Tablet Fragment]] is messing with Juggy's Gem of Cyttorak-given power]].
12th May '18 3:32:47 AM FirstStrike
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*** ''Injustice 2'' is just as much, if not more, guilty about this. Unlike before, the story doesn't reference the infamous pills. It also features the signature unique intros carried over from ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'', and it's kind of funny seeing Harley Quinn take on ComicBook/BlackAdam and having the intro act like they're equals.



* In ''VideoGame/SpiderManShatteredDimensions'', Amazing Spider-Man takes out TheJuggernaut in a fistfight. It's {{handwave}}d by suggesting that [[spoiler:the power of the [[MacGuffin Tablet Fragment]] is messing with Juggy's Gem of Cyttorak-given power]].

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* In ''VideoGame/SpiderManShatteredDimensions'', Amazing Spider-Man takes out TheJuggernaut in a fistfight. It's Granted, Spidey ''[[OlderThanTheyThink has]]'' defeated Juggernaut in the comics, but he did so by forcing him to the ground with his might and trapping him cement. Here, it's {{handwave}}d by suggesting that [[spoiler:the power of the [[MacGuffin Tablet Fragment]] is messing with Juggy's Gem of Cyttorak-given power]].
9th May '18 2:36:06 AM azbyc15243
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* This is prevalent in the various crossovers of works by Creator/KazumaKamachi (''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'', ''LightNovel/HeavyObject'', ''LightNovel/TheZashikiWarashiOfIntellectualVillage'', ''LightNovel/TheUnexploredSummonBloodSign'', ''LightNovel/ASimpleSurvey'' etc.). These settings all have drastically different power levels, with ''LightNovel/HeavyObject'' completely lacking any supernatural powers. A notable offender is the first crossover[[note]]The Circumstances Leading to a Certain Magical Heavy Zashiki Warashi’s Simple Killer Queen's Marriage[[/note]], in which Othinus (a Magic God from ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'') briefly holds off but is eventually driven away by Odin (a god from ''LightNovel/TheCircumstancesLeadingToWaltrautesMarriage''). Magic Gods are capable of reshaping the entire universe to their whims, while gods of the latter setting never do anything on this level.
4th May '18 10:48:18 PM HeatEdgeSword
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** Piccolo teaming up with Sanji and Sunny to fight Akami, the latter two fighters are unable to damage Akami thanks to it's CombatTentacles until Piccolo comes in and catches it off guard and then the trio do a CombinationAttack. While Sanji and Sunny are very powerful in their own right, they're still nowhere near Piccolo in terms of raw power.[[note]] Since Piccolo could blow up the moon early in [=DBZ=].[[/note]]

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** Piccolo teaming up with Sanji and Sunny to fight Akami, the latter two fighters are unable to damage Akami thanks to it's its CombatTentacles until Piccolo comes in and catches it off guard and then the trio do a CombinationAttack. While Sanji and Sunny are very powerful in their own right, they're still nowhere near Piccolo in terms of raw power.[[note]] Since Piccolo could blow up the moon early in [=DBZ=].[[/note]]



* Largely averted in ''Attack on Avengers'', the ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' / ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' crossover. The titans are on the receiving end of a CurbStompBattle, which, despite the dominance they display in their own series, is exactly what would happen to them when faced with Marvel's mightiest heroes. However, a notable exception comes in the form of the Colossal Titan; while the comic ends before it actually joins the battle, its size is ''vastly'' upgraded from the series; it's official height is 60m, or about 196ft. Here, it's shown absolutely towering over the Statue of Liberty, which stands 93m/305ft.
* This was a big criticism of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''. While not quite new universes, every new region seems to reset Pikachu's (and sometimes Ash's other pokemon's) power to a lower level so Ash can have fair fights with newbie trainers even though Pikachu should have been a Curb-Stomping level 99 long ago.

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* Largely averted in ''Attack on Avengers'', the ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' / ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' crossover. The titans are on the receiving end of a CurbStompBattle, which, despite the dominance they display in their own series, is exactly what would happen to them when faced with Marvel's mightiest heroes. However, a notable exception comes in the form of the Colossal Titan; while the comic ends before it actually joins the battle, its size is ''vastly'' upgraded from the series; it's its official height is 60m, or about 196ft. Here, it's shown absolutely towering over the Statue of Liberty, which stands 93m/305ft.
* This was a big criticism of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''. While not quite new universes, every new region seems to reset Pikachu's (and sometimes Ash's other pokemon's) power to a lower level so Ash can have fair fights with newbie trainers even though Pikachu should have been a Curb-Stomping level 99 long ago. has fought stronger foes before.
3rd May '18 12:58:25 PM Stinkoman87
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* The DragonBallSuper Trading Card Game, meanwhile , uses this trope for competitive balance. It has characters from across the franchise, from DragonBall to DragonBallSuper, and despite the wildly fluctuating power levels between those eras, every deck has characters of roughly the same statistical power for a given cost.
30th Apr '18 3:45:35 PM Gamermaster
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* While one could see ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura'''s eponymous character matching the other mages in ''VideoGame/MagicalBattleArena'' power-wise, it's a little harder to imagine her being able to take hits as well [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha as renowned members of a multi-dimension spanning police force]] or [[LightNovel/{{Slayers}} veteran adventurers of a fantasy world]] considering how she kinda has the durability of an ordinary elementary school student.

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* While one could see ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura'''s eponymous character matching the other mages in ''VideoGame/MagicalBattleArena'' power-wise, it's a little harder to imagine her being able to take hits as well [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha as renowned members of a multi-dimension spanning police force]] or [[LightNovel/{{Slayers}} veteran adventurers of a fantasy world]] considering how she kinda has the durability of an ordinary elementary school student.
20th Apr '18 1:36:40 AM Yukianesa
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* ''VideoGame/DragonballFighterz'', which includes a lot of different characters from all over the series, justifies it with artificial energy waves sapping the cast of their powers [[spoiler:(with the notable exception of Beerus and Whis)]]. This is why Nappa (who was a WakeUpCallBoss who decimated the Z-Fighters but got easily stomped by Goku early on) can theoretically beat the likes of a future Goku who has ''long since'' surpassed him, Cell, Majin Buu and ''Goku Black''.
* ''VideoGame/BlazblueCrossTagBattle''. Quite inevitable given the massive discrepancies in power between the four franchises. At the high end of the scale we have ''Blazblue'' powerhouses like Ragna (fighting and winning against a world superpower alone and effectively becomes a god-slayer), Hazama (as powerful as Ragna), Hakumen (killed an Eldritch Abomination that devastated the entire world singlehandedly in the past) and Azrael (so overwhelmingly powerful that even Hakumen runs away from him). At the lower end of the scale are the ''RWBY'' heroines who have mostly fought just ordinary human {{Mooks}}, slightly-superhuman {{Elite Mook}}s and the occasional building-levelling giant monster in groups; that is to say nothing of their relative inexperience, as they are high schoolers going up against many characters who have years or [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld in some cases]] ''centuries'' of fighting experience over them.
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