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10th Oct '17 5:56:09 PM Shadoboy
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** Special mention goes to [[Film/TheLittleMermaid Ariel]], who never fought in the original movie. Here? She becomes a straight-up BlackMage who helps you defeat Ursula after she becomes giant.
10th Oct '17 5:43:51 PM Shadoboy
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*** If these games were more strict about characters' strengths and weaknesses during gameplay, [[EyeBeams optic blasts]] would be ''useless'' in [[MirrorMatch Cyclops vs. Cyclops matches]], no matter how powerful they are. They'd have to rely on [[BareFistedMonk martial arts]]. In the comics, Cyclops is resistant to his own powers. Similarly, ComicBook/GhostRider's [[DeathGlare Penance Stare]] works on any normal-sized character (i.e. everyone not named Galactus), regardless of if the character ever inflicted pain and suffering on an innocent.

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*** If these games were more strict about characters' strengths and weaknesses during gameplay, [[EyeBeams optic blasts]] would be ''useless'' in [[MirrorMatch Cyclops vs. Cyclops matches]], no matter how powerful they are. They'd have to rely on [[BareFistedMonk martial arts]]. In the comics, Cyclops is resistant to his own powers. Similarly, ComicBook/GhostRider's [[DeathGlare Penance Stare]] works on any normal-sized character (i.e. everyone not named Galactus), regardless of if the character ever inflicted pain and suffering on an innocent. On the other hand, it would be useless against characters that have no soul like Sentinel and (arguably) Nemesis.
4th Oct '17 5:48:41 PM comicwriter
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* Any ''Franchise/StarWars'' game starring a Jedi will usually have a bit of this out of necessity. Lightsabers usually require multiple hits to kill or defeat an opponent, and {{Mook}}s who could be defeated in about half a second in the movies are usually much more dangerous. ''Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi'', a ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'' clone from TheNineties, probably has one of the strongest examples of this. Since this was a FightingGame, it was entirely possible for characters like Chewbacca, Han and even ''a Stormtrooper'' to defeat people like Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader in one-on-one combat.
3rd Oct '17 8:05:19 AM comicwriter
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** While not ''as'' glaring, ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcomInfinite'' features Comicbook/{{Ultron}}. That would be the guy known for having a nearly-indestructible body [[MadeOfIndestructium made of adamantium]] (or vibranium, depending on the story), yet he's able to get his ass kicked by everyone else in the cast.



*** [[UpToEleven It was only done to match with the over-the-top and frantic gameplay]] that has been present since ''VideoGame/XMenChildrenOfTheAtom'', with the exception of ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom]] [[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium vs.]] [[VideoGame/SNKVsCapcomSVCChaos SNK]]'' and ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' (which lack superheroes and play more similar to ''Street Fighter'' or ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'', meaning there's no need for massively beefed-up Hyper Combos). It mainly applies for the ''Street Fighter'' characters, though there are other Capcom characters who benefit, such as [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Wesker]]'s superhuman speed and reflexes being interpreted as [[FlashStep outright teleportation]]. In fact, a very subtle example comes from [[VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}} Morrigan]], whose Soul Fist special move is actually the ES Special variant seen in her home series.

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*** [[UpToEleven It was only done to match with the over-the-top and frantic gameplay]] that has been present since ''VideoGame/XMenChildrenOfTheAtom'', with the exception of ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom]] [[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium vs.]] [[VideoGame/SNKVsCapcomSVCChaos SNK]]'' and ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' (which lack superheroes and play more similar to ''Street Fighter'' or ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'', meaning there's no need for massively beefed-up Hyper Combos). It mainly applies for the ''Street Fighter'' characters, though there are other Capcom characters who benefit, such as [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Wesker]]'s superhuman speed and reflexes being interpreted as [[FlashStep outright teleportation]]. In fact, a very subtle example comes from [[VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}} Morrigan]], whose Soul Fist special move is actually the ES Special variant seen in her home series.
3rd Oct '17 8:01:09 AM comicwriter
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*** Considering that many of Capcom's characters were made MUCH stronger in order to compensate, this can double as FridgeBrilliance. [[http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Shinku_Hadoken See this comparison]]. For example: In the ''Street Fighter'' games and ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium Capcom vs. SNK 2]]'', Ryu's Shinku Hadouken is just [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/3/33/RyuCFEShinkuuHadouken.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111127144720 a larger-than-normal Hadouken]]. In the ''Marvel vs. Capcom'' games, it's reimagined as a [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/b/b4/Ryu-bigsuper.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100328045100 massive Kamehameha-style energy beam]]. Most of the other ''Street Fighters'' characters have their Super Moves similarly beefed up and exaggerated.
*** [[UpToEleven It was only done to match with the over-the-top and frantic gameplay]] that has been present since ''VideoGame/XMenChildrenOfTheAtom'', with the exception of ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom]] [[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium vs.]] [[VideoGame/SNKVsCapcomSVCChaos SNK]]'' and ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken''. It mainly applies for the ''Street Fighter'' characters, though there are other Capcom characters who benefit, such as [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Wesker]]'s superhuman speed and reflexes being interpreted as [[FlashStep outright teleportation]]. In fact, a very subtle example comes from [[VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}} Morrigan]], whose Soul Fist special move is actually the ES Special variant seen in her home series.

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*** Considering that many of Capcom's characters were made MUCH stronger in order to compensate, this can double as FridgeBrilliance. [[http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Shinku_Hadoken See this comparison]]. For example: In the ''Street Fighter'' games and ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium Capcom vs. SNK 2]]'', Ryu's Shinku Hadouken is just [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/3/33/RyuCFEShinkuuHadouken.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111127144720 a larger-than-normal Hadouken]]. In the ''Marvel vs. Capcom'' games, it's reimagined as a [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/b/b4/Ryu-bigsuper.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100328045100 massive Kamehameha-style energy beam]]. Most of the other ''Street Fighters'' characters have their Super Moves similarly beefed up and exaggerated.\n
*** [[UpToEleven It was only done to match with the over-the-top and frantic gameplay]] that has been present since ''VideoGame/XMenChildrenOfTheAtom'', with the exception of ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom]] [[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium vs.]] [[VideoGame/SNKVsCapcomSVCChaos SNK]]'' and ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken''. ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' (which lack superheroes and play more similar to ''Street Fighter'' or ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'', meaning there's no need for massively beefed-up Hyper Combos). It mainly applies for the ''Street Fighter'' characters, though there are other Capcom characters who benefit, such as [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Wesker]]'s superhuman speed and reflexes being interpreted as [[FlashStep outright teleportation]]. In fact, a very subtle example comes from [[VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}} Morrigan]], whose Soul Fist special move is actually the ES Special variant seen in her home series.
3rd Oct '17 7:55:11 AM comicwriter
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*** Considering that many of Capcom's characters seem MUCH stronger, this can double as FridgeBrilliance. For example: Ryu can fire a much bigger Shinku Hadoken in comparison to his ''SF'' incarnation. [[http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Shinku_Hadoken See this comparison.]]

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*** Considering that many of Capcom's characters seem were made MUCH stronger, stronger in order to compensate, this can double as FridgeBrilliance. For example: Ryu can fire a much bigger Shinku Hadoken in comparison to his ''SF'' incarnation.FridgeBrilliance. [[http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Shinku_Hadoken See this comparison.]]comparison]]. For example: In the ''Street Fighter'' games and ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium Capcom vs. SNK 2]]'', Ryu's Shinku Hadouken is just [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/3/33/RyuCFEShinkuuHadouken.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111127144720 a larger-than-normal Hadouken]]. In the ''Marvel vs. Capcom'' games, it's reimagined as a [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/b/b4/Ryu-bigsuper.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100328045100 massive Kamehameha-style energy beam]]. Most of the other ''Street Fighters'' characters have their Super Moves similarly beefed up and exaggerated.
28th Sep '17 3:51:46 AM SAMAS
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->'''[[VideoGame/DeadRising Frank West]]''': ''Whoa whoa whoa -- you want [[BadassNormal me]] to go up against [[PhysicaGod HIM?]] He's gonna kill me!''

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->'''[[VideoGame/DeadRising Frank West]]''': ''Whoa whoa whoa -- you want [[BadassNormal me]] to go up against [[PhysicaGod [[PhysicalGod HIM?]] He's gonna kill me!''
28th Sep '17 3:51:11 AM SAMAS
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->'''ComicBook/{{Thanos}}''': ''You dare defy ME?''
->'''ComicBook/IronMan''': ''Absolutely. Go get him, Frank!''
->'''[[VideoGame/DeadRising Frank West]]''': ''Whoa whoa whoa -- you want [[BadassNormal me]] to go up against [[PhysicaGod HIM?]] He's gonna kill me!''
-->-- ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcomInfinite''
1st Sep '17 11:07:33 AM bfunc
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* Film/KingKong was enlarged several times his size and given electricity powers to match Franchise/{{Godzilla}} for their crossover fight in ''Film/KingKongVsGodzilla''. Understandable, since Godzilla shrugs off autocannons, rockets, missiles, tank shells, and lasers, while King Kong got killed by a few biplanes with machine guns. Likewise, Godzilla, despite having shrugged off 300,000 volts of electricity in the original ''[[Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters1956 Godzilla: King of the Monsters!]]'', was shown to be so vulnerable to electricity this time around that he shied away from ordinary power lines. This was most likely meant to make Godzilla particularly at risk from Kong's aforementioned new Lightning Paws. Which was ironically creeped up again in ''Film/EbirahHorrorOfTheDeep'', when an electric storm revives the King of the Monsters, and expanded further when Godzilla's beam powers an [[ShockAndAwe electric super-weapon]] in ''[[Film/GodzillaVsHedorah Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster]]'' and generating a powerful magnetic field in ''Film/GodzillaVsMechagodzilla''. So in short, LightningCanDoAnything.

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* Film/KingKong was enlarged several times his size and given electricity powers to match Franchise/{{Godzilla}} for their crossover fight in ''Film/KingKongVsGodzilla''. Understandable, since Godzilla shrugs off autocannons, rockets, missiles, tank shells, and lasers, while King Kong got killed by a few biplanes with machine guns. Likewise, Godzilla, despite having shrugged off 300,000 volts of electricity in the original ''[[Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters1956 Godzilla: King of the Monsters!]]'', was shown to be so vulnerable to electricity this time around that he shied away from ordinary power lines. [[note]]Note that Japan's Kita-Iwaki Powerline (at least) runs at half a megavolt, and the ability to "shrug off" something doesn't necessarily mean it's a pleasant experience; licking the poles of a fully charged nine-volt battery is unlikely to kill you, but it will sting a bit.[[/note]] This was most likely meant to make Godzilla particularly at risk from Kong's aforementioned new Lightning Paws. Which was ironically creeped up again in ''Film/EbirahHorrorOfTheDeep'', when an electric storm revives the King of the Monsters, and expanded further when Godzilla's beam powers an [[ShockAndAwe electric super-weapon]] in ''[[Film/GodzillaVsHedorah Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster]]'' and generating a powerful magnetic field in ''Film/GodzillaVsMechagodzilla''. So in short, LightningCanDoAnything.
16th Aug '17 5:47:58 AM MBG
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** This is pretty much legion in ''Dragonball'' fighting games, given the show's love of PowerLevels and constant LensmanArmsRace. Generally, characters who are meant to be stronger in canon are slightly stronger than their peers, but they still take potentially KO-worthy damage from attacks that shouldn't even give them a bloody nose. ''Tenkaichi 3'' is likely the king, with its gigantic roster; you can set up a match between Emperor Pilaf's ramshackle MiniMecha and Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, then defeat a galaxy-destroying PhysicalGod with machineguns.
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