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19th Jul '17 6:16:12 PM Sammettik
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** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] at least in ''Brawl'' in that the characters are all trophies brought to life.
16th Jul '17 7:53:36 PM NumberFortyFour
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** [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Sonic's]] homing attack is restricted by a charge up time to prevent the player from endlessly spamming it like you can in most Sonic games. His speed is also nerfed by a significant degree.
14th Jul '17 7:23:12 PM MBG
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* ''Webcomic/DragonBallMultiverse'': Salagir made the Super Saiyan forms ascended after the original greater in power from the Dragon Ball canon.
** Super Saiyan Grade 3 (the bulky form Future Trunks uses against Perfect Cell) is equal in Power to Super Saiyan 2, but still makes the use much slower than a "true" Super Saiyan 2.
** Super Saiyan 2 goes from a x100 base form multiplayer to a x 500 multiplier. This make it more powerful than Super Saiyan 3 was in canon.
** Super Saiyan 3 jumps from an already incredibly x400 multiplier to a massive x5000 multiplier.
** Broly's "Legendary Super Saiyan" form is the best of all however, as it increases Broly's Power Level the longer he stays in it. This makes his power potentially infinite.

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* ''Webcomic/DragonBallMultiverse'': Salagir made has stated that in the canon of the comic, Super Saiyan forms ascended after the original greater in power from the Dragon Ball canon.
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act more like tiers than their canon state of multipliers - unless a character is extremely strong, like Vegito, most Super Saiyan Grade 3 (the bulky form Future Trunks uses against Perfect Cell) is equal 1 characters of a given level are in Power to Super Saiyan 2, but still makes roughly the use same power range, and pretty much slower than a "true" Super Saiyan 2.
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any Super Saiyan 2 goes would be stronger than those characters. Broly also has the mechanics of his Legendary transformation altered to allow him the sort of feats he accomplished in his movie [[VillainForgotToLevelGrind long after canon lapped him]], with him going from a x100 base form multiplayer to a x 500 multiplier. This make it more powerful "stronger than Super Saiyan 3 was Perfect Cell" to "completely invincible and constantly growing in canon.
power."
** Super Saiyan 3 jumps from an already incredibly x400 multiplier Plenty of characters also get powered up or powered down [[AlternateUniverseReedRichardsIsAwesome compared to a massive x5000 multiplier.
** Broly's "Legendary Super Saiyan" form is
their main-universe counterparts]] to allow for even fights. For instance, King Cold [[spoiler:after being bodyswapped with Ginyu]] has trained up enough to reach the best of all however, as it increases Broly's Power Level the longer he stays in it. This makes OneWingedAngel forms his sons had, while Gotenks has gotten so much StrongerWithAge that he can't maintain his maximum power potentially infinite.level [[HourOfPower for more than a few seconds]].
14th Jul '17 1:08:22 PM MBG
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* Doctor Manhattan in ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'' was [[SuperpowerLottery extremely powerful]], but he wasn't truly omnipotent. He was as impressive as he was because he was a PersonOfMassDestruction in a world where the second strongest character is a somewhat impressive BadassNormal, and there were some limitations on what he could and couldn't do. Even his full power wouldn't be enough to stop a lot of airborne nukes (though he'd take out a good percentage of them). In ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'', to facilitate his [[CosmicRetcon involvement]] in the plot, he's shown accomplishing feats more in the range of "universe-busting", and handling people who could have solved the Cold War by simply blinking an eye and turning the Soviet Union into a chinchilla.
2nd Jul '17 2:10:42 PM MBG
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** This happens to a lot of characters, as ''JoJo'' is a universe known for its weird powers. Okuyasu and Vanilla Ice both have PortalCut abilities that should be a one-hit-kill or at least a severe maiming to most of the cast, and Kira's "turn anything into a bomb" trick ought to be similarly effective - they're damaging, but not by that much. Vampires and Pillar Men could regenerate from being blown to pieces in the series, with the only surefire way to kill them being sunlight or Hamon, and while they do have a bit of healing ([[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything which Hamon-users nullify]]), it's nowhere near that level. Giorno's Gold Experience Requiem and Pucci's Made In Heaven are massive powerboosts, but they're based on abilities that allowed them to negate anything and recreate the universe, respectively. Meanwhile, at the other end of the powerscale, the sequel ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven'' adds Robert E. O. Speedwagon, a completely normal human with no special abilities aside from some brawling skills, a sledgehammer, and [[ImprobableWeaponUser a razor-edged bowler hat.]] He can kill either of the above, though it isn't easy.

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** This happens to a lot of characters, as ''JoJo'' ''[=JoJo=]'' is a universe known for its weird powers. Okuyasu and Vanilla Ice both have PortalCut abilities that should be a one-hit-kill or at least a severe maiming to most of the cast, and Kira's "turn anything into a bomb" trick ought to be similarly effective - they're damaging, but not by that much. Vampires and Pillar Men could regenerate from being blown to pieces in the series, with the only surefire way to kill them being sunlight or Hamon, and while they do have a bit of healing ([[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything which Hamon-users nullify]]), it's nowhere near that level. Giorno's Gold Experience Requiem and Pucci's Made In Heaven are massive powerboosts, but they're based on abilities that allowed them to negate anything and recreate the universe, respectively. Meanwhile, at the other end of the powerscale, the sequel ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven'' adds Robert E. O. Speedwagon, a completely normal human with no special abilities aside from some brawling skills, a sledgehammer, and [[ImprobableWeaponUser a razor-edged bowler hat.]] He can kill either of the above, though it isn't easy.
2nd Jul '17 2:00:06 PM MBG
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** This happens to a lot of characters, as ''Jojo'' is a universe known for its weird powers. Okuyasu and Vanilla Ice both have PortalCut abilities that should be a one-hit-kill or at least a severe maiming to most of the cast, and Kira's "turn anything into a bomb" trick ought to be similarly effective - they're damaging, but not by that much. Vampires and Pillar Men could regenerate from being blown to pieces in the series, with the only surefire way to kill them being sunlight or Hamon, and while they do have a bit of healing ([[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything which Hamon-users nullify]]), it's nowhere near that level. Giorno's Gold Experience Requiem and Pucci's Made In Heaven are massive powerboosts, but they're based on abilities that allowed them to negate anything and recreate the universe, respectively. Meanwhile, at the other end of the powerscale, the sequel ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven'' adds Robert E. O. Speedwagon, a completely normal human with no special abilities aside from some brawling skills, a sledgehammer, and [[ImprobableWeaponUser a razor-edged bowler hat.]] He can kill either of the above, though it isn't easy.

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** This happens to a lot of characters, as ''Jojo'' ''JoJo'' is a universe known for its weird powers. Okuyasu and Vanilla Ice both have PortalCut abilities that should be a one-hit-kill or at least a severe maiming to most of the cast, and Kira's "turn anything into a bomb" trick ought to be similarly effective - they're damaging, but not by that much. Vampires and Pillar Men could regenerate from being blown to pieces in the series, with the only surefire way to kill them being sunlight or Hamon, and while they do have a bit of healing ([[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything which Hamon-users nullify]]), it's nowhere near that level. Giorno's Gold Experience Requiem and Pucci's Made In Heaven are massive powerboosts, but they're based on abilities that allowed them to negate anything and recreate the universe, respectively. Meanwhile, at the other end of the powerscale, the sequel ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven'' ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven'' adds Robert E. O. Speedwagon, a completely normal human with no special abilities aside from some brawling skills, a sledgehammer, and [[ImprobableWeaponUser a razor-edged bowler hat.]] He can kill either of the above, though it isn't easy.
2nd Jul '17 1:57:46 PM MBG
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** This happens to a lot of characters, as ''Jojo'' is a universe known for its weird powers. Okuyasu and Vanilla Ice both have PortalCut abilities that should be a one-hit-kill or at least a severe maiming to most of the cast, and Kira's "turn anything into a bomb" trick ought to be similarly effective - they're damaging, but not by that much. Vampires and Pillar Men could regenerate from being blown to pieces in the series, with the only surefire way to kill them being sunlight or Hamon, and while they do have a bit of healing ([[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything which Hamon-users nullify]]), it's nowhere near that level. Giorno's Gold Experience Requiem and Pucci's Made In Heaven are massive powerboosts, but they're based on abilities that allowed them to negate anything and recreate the universe, respectively. Meanwhile, at the other end of the powerscale, the sequel ''VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven'' adds Robert E. O. Speedwagon, a completely normal human with no special abilities aside from some brawling skills, a sledgehammer, and [[ImprobableWeaponUser a razor-edged bowler hat.]] He can kill either of the above, though it isn't easy.
2nd Jul '17 12:19:28 PM MBG
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** One panel shows a quick gag of DC's [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] and Marvel's ComicBook/CaptainMarVell switching off against their respective adversary, with Marvel punching out Ronan the Accuser while Mar-Vell punches out ComicBook/BlackAdam. Captain Marvel taking down Ronan is pretty believable, but Mar-Vell's level of super strength is supposedly around the same level as Spider-Man's, though he has shown a great deal more strength than that - though even so, he's not on par with the Big Red Cheese, and while he has other powers, he was only punching in that panel, while Black Adam is one of the strongest villains in the DCU, having taken down Superman-level characters. Then again, RuleOfFunny.

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** One panel shows a quick gag of DC's [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] and Marvel's ComicBook/CaptainMarVell switching off against their respective adversary, with Marvel punching out Ronan the Accuser while Mar-Vell punches out ComicBook/BlackAdam. Captain Marvel taking down Ronan is pretty believable, but Mar-Vell's level of super strength is supposedly around the same level as Spider-Man's, though he has shown a great deal more strength than that - though even so, he's not nowhere near on par with the Big Red Cheese, and while he has other powers, he was only punching in that panel, while Black Adam is one of the strongest villains in the DCU, having taken down Superman-level characters. Then again, RuleOfFunny.



*** Batman v. Superman again in Creator/FrankMiller's ''Comicbook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns''. Batman gears up all the way, breaks out all his reserve equipment, the story takes place right after Superman almost dies, and it is made clear that Superman is unwilling to try to kill Batman. It ends with Batman in a position where he can win, [[spoiler: and instead, he fakes his own death]].

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*** Batman v. Superman again largely got its start in Creator/FrankMiller's ''Comicbook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns''. Batman gears up all the way, breaks out all his reserve equipment, the story takes place right after Superman almost dies, and it is made clear that Superman is unwilling to try to kill Batman. It ends with Batman in a position where he can win, [[spoiler: and instead, he fakes his own death]].



*** ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman #78'' featured two kids discussing an UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny between the two heroes. They immediately agree that Batman can't use Kryptonite, but to compensate, the [[ThouShaltNotKill fight can't be lethal]] - since if Superman were to use lethal force, he'd just punch Batman's head off in the first three seconds.



* Any given CrisisCrossover will be rife with this. The need to use as many characters as possible often leads to some [[CListFodder crowd filler]] being far stronger than the main villain. The original ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'', for instance, has the [[SuperpowerLottery theoretically-omnipotent]] elemental transmuter ComicBook/{{Firestorm}} being forced to a stalemate by the Penguin's trick umbrella, or the obscure cosmic villain Maalor the Darklord, who once held his own against the entire Franchise/GreenLantern Corps, getting killed in one hit by Krona. The strength of the Anti-Monitor's shadow demons generally hits the exact amount needed to give their opponent a tough fight in swarms, whether it's [[PhysicalGod Alan Scott]] or [[BadassNormal Oliver Queen.]]
* The effectiveness of ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'s HealingFactor has been subject to this. Originally, severe enough injuries could still put him out of action for a couple days or weeks, but he still healed faster than anyone. Now, he can bounce back from being practically burned down to his skeleton within a matter of hours (if not ''minutes''), and it's been established that his healing factor extends to slowing down his aging, allowing him to live well past the age of 150. Then again, ''ComicBook/DaysOfFuturePast'' (written [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness back in 1980]]) showed him aging realistically, and even being killed in a future WhatIf scenario after taking a laser beam to the face from a Sentinel. His solo book once tried to rectify the inconsistencies by establishing that his rate of healing can be affected by the seriousness of his injuries; if he suffers too many injuries, it slows down accordingly.

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* Any given CrisisCrossover will be rife with this. The need to use as many characters as possible often leads to some [[CListFodder crowd filler]] being far stronger than the main villain. The original ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'', for instance, has the [[SuperpowerLottery theoretically-omnipotent]] elemental transmuter ComicBook/{{Firestorm}} being forced to a stalemate by the Penguin's trick umbrella, or the obscure cosmic villain Maalor Maaldor the Darklord, who created universes and once held his own against the entire Franchise/GreenLantern Corps, getting killed in one hit by Krona. The strength of the Anti-Monitor's shadow demons generally hits the exact amount needed to give their opponent a tough fight in swarms, whether it's [[PhysicalGod Alan Scott]] or [[BadassNormal Oliver Queen.]]
* The effectiveness of ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'s HealingFactor has been subject to this. Originally, severe enough injuries could still put him out of action for a couple days or weeks, but he still healed faster than anyone. Now, he can bounce back from being practically burned down to his skeleton within a matter of hours (if not ''minutes''), and it's been established that his healing factor extends to slowing down his aging, allowing him to live well past the age of 150. Then again, ''ComicBook/DaysOfFuturePast'' (written [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness back in 1980]]) showed him aging realistically, and even being killed in a future WhatIf scenario after taking a laser beam to the face from a Sentinel. His solo book once tried to rectify the inconsistencies by establishing that his rate of healing can be affected by the seriousness of his injuries; if he suffers too many injuries, it slows down accordingly. Part of this was due to a storyline where the toxic adamantium was stripped from his bones, meaning that for a couple years, his healing was now uninhibited and he could regenerate pretty much anything, at the cost of his invincible bones and [[AbsurdlySharpBlade cut-anything claws]]. Then [[StatusQuoIsGod the adamantium was added back in]], but by that point writers had gotten used to writing him healing at that level and didn't adjust it back down.
2nd Jul '17 3:32:36 AM xneon
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** [[Film/AliensVsPredatorRequiem The second film]] inverts that change, calling on the comic-book example and [[RetCon reversing the situation]] in the previous movie. However, it should be noted that the Predators in the first AVP were rookies on a right a of passage, and the Predator in ''AVPR'' was an Ace among Predators.

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** [[Film/AliensVsPredatorRequiem The second film]] inverts that change, calling on the comic-book example and [[RetCon reversing the situation]] in the previous movie. However, it should be noted that the Predators in the first AVP were rookies on a right a rite of passage, and the Predator in ''AVPR'' was an Ace among Predators.
16th Jun '17 3:22:51 AM N8han11
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** One of the bigger points of contention about ''Anime/DigimonXrosWarsTheYoungHuntersLeapingThroughTime. The past leaders from all the other anime seasons show up and take place in a key battle. Of course some of the digimon , like the aforementioned Omnimon and Susanoomon (who's a whole tier above ''planet busting'' ) really should make most of the other characters irrelevant and ended the fight in seconds. They don't get to do much

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** One of the bigger points of contention about ''Anime/DigimonXrosWarsTheYoungHuntersLeapingThroughTime.''Anime/DigimonXrosWarsTheYoungHuntersLeapingThroughTime''. The past leaders from all the other anime seasons show up and take place in a key battle. Of course some of the digimon , Digimon, like the aforementioned Omnimon and Susanoomon (who's a whole tier above ''planet busting'' ) really should make most of the other characters irrelevant and ended the fight in seconds. They don't get to do muchmuch.
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