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16th Jun '16 6:34:44 PM comicwriter
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* Happens in crossover titles in video games as well, as evidenced in [[VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever Capcom crossover games]]. This is something of a necessity; how else could you expect [[Franchise/StreetFighter Dan Hibiki or Sakura]] to fight, say, the [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]] or Doctor Doom without having a serious upgrade in strength? (Dan, of course, doesn't have a chance even with the upgrade, but he's a JokeCharacter anyway.) The concept was (lovingly) mocked in a segment on Series/XPlay where Blair Butler took a look back at the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series, noting in each game the number of fighters, adding that "none of them would stand a chance against TheHulk"; while not completely true, it gets the point across.
** It's even worse in the earlier games in the series, where freakin' ''Apocalypse'' and ''Onslaught'' were the final bosses, and yet the likes of Chun-Li and Ryu were able to take them down. Of course, ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'' ups the ante further with the Final Boss being ''Comicbook/{{Galactus}}''.

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* Happens in crossover titles in video games as well, as evidenced in [[VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever Capcom crossover games]]. This is something of a necessity; how else could you expect [[Franchise/StreetFighter Dan Hibiki or Sakura]] to fight, say, the [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]] or Doctor Doom DoctorDoom without having a serious upgrade in strength? (Dan, of course, doesn't have a chance even with the upgrade, but he's a JokeCharacter anyway.) The concept was (lovingly) mocked in a segment on Series/XPlay where Blair Butler took a look back at the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series, noting in each game the number of fighters, adding that "none of them would stand a chance against TheHulk"; while not completely true, it gets the point across.
** It's even worse in the earlier games in the series, where freakin' ''Apocalypse'' ''Comicbook/{{Apocalypse}}'' and ''Onslaught'' ''Comicbook/{{Onslaught}}'' were the final bosses, and yet the likes of Chun-Li and Ryu were able to take them down. Of course, ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'' ups the ante further with the Final Boss being ''Comicbook/{{Galactus}}''.
10th Jun '16 8:41:20 AM NativeJovian
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* Many of the Disney characters suddenly developed ImplausibleFencingPowers, magic, or [[IKnowKarate Kung Fu]] of some sort to put them on equal combat ground with the main characters of ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''. It's slightly jarring (and very awesome) to see Mickey Mouse with a Yoda-like fighting ability while retaining the personality he's had for the past 50 or 60 years.

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* Many of the Disney characters suddenly developed ImplausibleFencingPowers, magic, become a MasterSwordsman, magic user, or [[IKnowKarate Kung Fu]] master of some sort to put them on equal combat ground with the main characters of ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''. It's slightly jarring (and very awesome) to see Mickey Mouse with a Yoda-like fighting ability while retaining the personality he's had for the past 50 or 60 years.
4th Jun '16 3:35:39 AM morenohijazo
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* ''Webcomic/DragonBallMultiverse'': Salagir made the Super Saiyan forms ascended after the original greater in power from the Dragon Ball canon.
** Super Saiyan Grade 3 (the bulky form Future Trunks uses against Perfect Cell) is equal in Power to Super Saiyan 2, but still makes the use much slower than a "true" Super Saiyan 2.
** Super Saiyan 2 goes from a x100 base form multiplayer to a x 500 multiplier. This make it more powerful than Super Saiyan 3 was in canon.
** Super Saiyan 3 jumps from an already incredibly x400 multiplier to a massive x5000 multiplier.
** Broly's "Legendary Super Saiyan" form is the best of all however, as it increases Broly's Power Level the longer he stays in it. This makes his power potentially infinite.
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5th May '16 8:54:44 AM pinkdalek
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* Cloud in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' was the MasterOfAll in the party in gameplay terms, and was considered freakishly strong in-story as well. In his cameo as a party member in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'', he's below average.
* ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'' puts ordinary humans with no innate magic powers (Squall, Laguna, Tifa, Kain) on the same level as humans naturally capable of magic (Cecil, Firion, Ultimecia, Gabranth, Golbez), magic users with power from summoned demons (The Emperor, Yuna), summoned demons (Gilgamesh), humans granted with godlike powers to aid them on a quest (Warrior of Light, Onion Knight, Bartz, Lightning), humans augmented via MagiTek means to have superior strength and magic (Kefka, Sephiroth, Cloud), part-human-part-Summoned Monster (Terra, Jecht), entirely artificial people made of magic (Zidane, Kuja, Tidus), evil spirits with magic capable of [[RealityWarper manipulating existence itself]] (Cloud of Darkness, Exdeath), and actual gods (Chaos).
5th May '16 5:45:55 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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** At the same time though, it also averts power creeping with three plot characters: Index, [[NogizakaHarukaNoHimitsu Haruka]] and [[LightNovel/AsuraCryin Misao]] aren't fighters in their canon and so they are not playable characters despite being in your party; instead, they are support characters who hold the cards usable in battle. They don't even have any in-battle sprites. (And hey, it fits Index's canon role.)

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** At the same time though, it also averts power creeping with three plot characters: Index, [[NogizakaHarukaNoHimitsu [[LightNovel/NogizakaHarukaNoHimitsu Haruka]] and [[LightNovel/AsuraCryin Misao]] aren't fighters in their canon and so they are not playable characters despite being in your party; instead, they are support characters who hold the cards usable in battle. They don't even have any in-battle sprites. (And hey, it fits Index's canon role.)
2nd May '16 2:17:09 PM Willbyr
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* Another crossover title example is ''VideoGame/JumpSuperStars'', its sequel ''Jump Ultimate Stars'' and its successor ''VideoGame/JStarsVictoryVS''. Massive quantities of power nerfing and boosting must have happened for characters like Ryotsu from ''Manga/{{Kochikame}}'', a regular human police officer, to fare well against monsters like [[Manga/DragonBall Goku]], [[Manga/SaintSeiya Seiya]], [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Ichigo]], [[Manga/OnePiece Luffy]] and Manga/{{Naruto}} just to name a few[[note]]That being said, the ''Kochikame''/''Dragon Ball'' one-shot crossover chapter for the former's 30th anniversary does give a narrative rational as top why Ryotsu can hang out with the big boys in battle: He has ToonPhysics on his side but the others don't.[[/note]], but in one way or another all of them are fighters, are capable of fighting or have ToonPhysics in their respective universes. The worst offenders worth mentioning are the {{Assist Character}}s, mainly composed of comical/normal characters who in their universes do not have any fighting skills and/or are bound to "realistic" physics. They tend to be sports- or romance-themed, so it's kind of insane seeing cute girls [[Manga/IchigoOneHundredPercent tripping and falling over]] or [[Manga/{{Nisekoi}} hand-slapping]] the aforementioned monsters, hurting them and somehow temporarily disabling ''their'' assist characters. It reaches plain unfair levels when some are UNBLOCKABLE and hard to dodge.

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* Another crossover title example is ''VideoGame/JumpSuperStars'', its sequel ''Jump Ultimate Stars'' and its successor ''VideoGame/JStarsVictoryVS''. Massive quantities of power nerfing and boosting must have happened for characters like Ryotsu from ''Manga/{{Kochikame}}'', a regular human police officer, to fare well against monsters like [[Manga/DragonBall Goku]], [[Manga/SaintSeiya Seiya]], [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Ichigo]], [[Manga/OnePiece Luffy]] and Manga/{{Naruto}} just to name a few[[note]]That being said, the ''Kochikame''/''Dragon Ball'' one-shot crossover chapter for the former's 30th anniversary does give a narrative rational as top why Ryotsu can hang out with the big boys in battle: He has ToonPhysics on his side but the others don't.[[/note]], but in one way or another all of them are fighters, are capable of fighting or have ToonPhysics in their respective universes. The worst offenders worth mentioning are the {{Assist Character}}s, mainly composed of comical/normal characters who in their universes do not have any fighting skills and/or are bound to "realistic" physics. They tend to be sports- or romance-themed, so it's kind of insane seeing cute girls [[Manga/IchigoOneHundredPercent [[Manga/StrawberryOneHundredPercent tripping and falling over]] or [[Manga/{{Nisekoi}} hand-slapping]] the aforementioned monsters, hurting them and somehow temporarily disabling ''their'' assist characters. It reaches plain unfair levels when some are UNBLOCKABLE and hard to dodge.
23rd Mar '16 7:18:33 AM PDL
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** The "winner" of this phenomenon is most likely Jigglypuff: In its home series, Jigglypuff is a very weak character who unlike Pikachu, doesn't benefit from any sort of power boosting item and even its evolution isn't considered a top tier character, with only its HP being its best stat while everything else is kind of bad. It also learns a move called Rest, which makes it fall asleep to recover HP... In Smash Bros., it uses Rest to instantly K.O opponents (provided that the move actually connects). It also has incredible recovery and aerial game, which are mechanics that don't exist in a turn-based [=RPG=] like ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}''. These traits make Jigglypuff the poster child of {{Lethal Joke Character}}s.

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** The "winner" of this phenomenon is most likely Jigglypuff: In its home series, Jigglypuff is a very weak character who unlike Pikachu, doesn't benefit from any sort of power boosting item and even its evolution isn't considered a top tier character, with only its HP being its best stat while everything else is kind of bad. It also learns a move called Rest, which makes it fall asleep to recover HP... In Smash Bros., it uses Rest to instantly K.O opponents (provided that the move actually connects). It also has incredible recovery (as in "getting back onto the stage after being knocked off" as opposed to gaining health back) and aerial game, which are mechanics that don't exist in a turn-based [=RPG=] like ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}''.the main ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games. These traits make Jigglypuff the poster child of {{Lethal Joke Character}}s.
23rd Mar '16 7:08:15 AM azraelfinalstar
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** One of the bigger points of contention about ''Anime/DigimonXrosWarsTheYoungHuntersLeapingThroughTime. The past leaders from all the other anime seasons show up and take place in a key battle. Of course some of the digimon , like the afformentioned Omnimon and Susanoomon (who's a whole tier above ''planet busting'' ) really should make most of the other characters irrelevant and ended the fight in seconds. They don't get to do much
2nd Mar '16 8:07:20 AM Tropetastic1995
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** Similarly, a recent comic depicted Miles Morales beat Blackheart to a pulp. As in, the guy who is only a step or two below Mephisto. For further reference, Blackheart beat Toxin to death rather easily, and Toxin in turn can defeat Venom and Carnage at the same time while Spider-man is hard-pressed to even survive against one of those.
24th Feb '16 9:51:03 AM nombretomado
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* This trope is in full effect in ''Film/TheAvengers'', and a few of the other Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse films.
** ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'', fitting the comics, is wildly inconsistent across the movies in terms of what he can take, which fits the nature of his character in that his strength is dependent on how angry and in control he is. In his first movie, he was knocked out by a tank round and was at least hurt by grenade rounds. The Hulk in ''Film/TheAvengers'', on the other hand, shows only annoyance to being shot by aircraft-mounted cannon; it takes Thor to give him a serious challenge and only a concentrated barrage by over a dozen Chitauri aircraft are even able to give him a bloody nose. Even falling from the Helicarrier at terminal velocity only knocks him out and reverts him to Bruce Banner.

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* This trope is in full effect in ''Film/TheAvengers'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', and a few of the other Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse films.
** ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'', fitting the comics, is wildly inconsistent across the movies in terms of what he can take, which fits the nature of his character in that his strength is dependent on how angry and in control he is. In his first movie, he was knocked out by a tank round and was at least hurt by grenade rounds. The Hulk in ''Film/TheAvengers'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', on the other hand, shows only annoyance to being shot by aircraft-mounted cannon; it takes Thor to give him a serious challenge and only a concentrated barrage by over a dozen Chitauri aircraft are even able to give him a bloody nose. Even falling from the Helicarrier at terminal velocity only knocks him out and reverts him to Bruce Banner.
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