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16th May '18 10:25:08 PM jtierney50
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* Captain Stently on ''Series/BrooklynNineNine''. He spent ''nine years'' in police academy (which is supposed to be a six month program) and essentially bumbled his way through the ranks all the way to captain, which he earned by going to a drug bust instead of a dermatology appointment and surprising the kingpin so bad that he shot himself.

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* Captain Stently on ''Series/BrooklynNineNine''. He spent ''nine years'' in police academy (which is supposed to be a six month program) and essentially bumbled his way through the ranks all the way to captain, which he earned by going to a drug bust instead of a dermatology appointment and surprising the kingpin so bad that he shot himself. He's aware of his own incompetence and inexperience, and is content to let the Nine Nine do whatever they feel is most important.
16th May '18 10:24:19 PM jtierney50
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* Captain Stently on ''Series/BrooklynNineNine''. He spent ''nine years'' in police academy (which is supposed to be a six month program) and essentially bumbled his way through the ranks all the way to captain, which he earned by going to a drug bust instead of a dermatology appointment and surprising the kingpin so bad that he shot himself.
24th Apr '18 8:04:25 PM AirofMystery
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* ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. Jim Gordon is promoted from Lieutenant to Police Commissioner literally overnight but still rushes out and takes personal command of emergencies when he should be delegating those responsibilities. The promotion is justified in that the top job in departments similar in size to the GCPD is actually a political appointment and one doesn't necessarily have to have come up through the ranks.

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** The prequel trilogy is much the same: the [[WarriorMonk Jedi]] are all generals of the Clone Army, but inevitably end up fighting on the field. They clearly believe in [[FrontLineGeneral leading from the front]] in a galaxy far, far away.
* ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. Jim Gordon is promoted from Lieutenant to Police Commissioner literally overnight but still rushes out and takes personal command of emergencies when he should be delegating those responsibilities. The promotion is justified in that the top job in departments similar in size to the GCPD is actually a political appointment appointment, and one doesn't necessarily have to have come up through the ranks.ranks. It's also heavily implied that Gordon is one of the few in the GCPD who ''isn't'' a DirtyCop, and thus he can't trust anyone else.
24th Apr '18 7:59:59 PM AirofMystery
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* The 2009 ''Film/StarTrek'' ran into this in its dual role as an EveryoneMeetsEveryone story and an [[OriginsEpisode origin story]] for James T. Kirk. We see Kirk join Star Fleet, and in almost no time he's captain of the ''Enterprise''. At the start of the film he's outranked by ''all'' of the characters we know as his crew (all of whom had actual jobs and positions); he's still a cadet in training. The plot is basically built to justify this: Starfleet loses droves of experienced personnel, and Kirk receives two field promotions in the resulting crisis. By the second film, however, we discover that Starfleet simply let the up-jumped cadet continue captaining their flagship... [[spoiler:[[RealityEnsues until he breaks the rules one-too-many times, and gets (temporarily) removed]]. Only Pike's intervention kept him in the general chain of command.]] It is worth noting that most of Kirk's character arc in the second film involves learning that while being lucky is all well and good, but being level-headed and respectful of the lives under his command is more reliable and appropriate for the ''captain of the flagship.''

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* The 2009 ''Film/StarTrek'' ran into this in its dual role as an EveryoneMeetsEveryone story and an [[OriginsEpisode origin story]] for James T. Kirk. We see Kirk join Star Fleet, and in almost no time he's captain of the ''Enterprise''. At the start of the film he's outranked by ''all'' of the characters we know as his crew (all of whom had actual jobs and positions); he's still a cadet in training. The plot is basically built to justify this: Starfleet loses droves of experienced personnel, and Kirk receives two field promotions in the resulting crisis. By the [[Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness second film, film]], however, we discover that Starfleet simply let the up-jumped cadet continue captaining their flagship... [[spoiler:[[RealityEnsues until he breaks the rules one-too-many times, and gets (temporarily) removed]]. Only Pike's intervention kept him in the general chain of command.]] It is worth noting that most of Kirk's character arc in the second film involves learning that while being lucky is all well and good, but being level-headed and respectful of the lives under his command is more reliable and appropriate for the ''captain of the flagship.''
8th Apr '18 4:38:22 AM Chabal2
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* During the controversial Civil War storyline in Marvel Comics, Tony Stark is examining a file on Frank Castle (AKA the Punisher). The file details Frank's time as a U.S. Marine during the Vietnam War, specifically referring to him as having been a 21 year old Captain. Even more impressive/odd is that Frank originally enlisted in the Marines, earning an officer's commission later on in his deployment. This may be somewhat justified, however, as Frank was an amazing soldier with a background in black ops; his promotions may have been based on skill as opposed to time served.

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* During the controversial Civil War storyline in Marvel Comics, Tony Stark is examining a file on Frank Castle (AKA the Punisher). The file details Frank's time as a U.S. Marine during the Vietnam War, specifically referring to him as having been a 21 year old Captain. Even more impressive/odd is that Frank originally enlisted in the Marines, earning an officer's commission later on in his deployment. This may be somewhat justified, however, as Frank was an amazing soldier with a background in black ops; his promotions may have been based on skill as opposed to time served.served (in the MAX continuity, Nick Fury arranges for his promotion after he and Frank go on an assassination mission).
18th Mar '18 2:28:13 PM kbissett
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** Had Lieutenant Miles Vorkosigan not [[IdiotBall killed his [=ImpSec=] career himself]] [[CantGetAwayWithNuthin with that fake report]], ''he'' would've become its head, as Illyan was already contemplating retirement and has been consciously grooming Miles as a successor all that time.

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** Had Lieutenant Miles Vorkosigan not [[IdiotBall killed his [=ImpSec=] career himself]] [[CantGetAwayWithNuthin with that fake report]], ''he'' would've become its head, as Illyan was already contemplating retirement and has been consciously grooming Miles as a successor all that time. So instead the job ends up going to someone who had already achieved flag rank as one of Ilyan's department heads, breaking the tradition of ostensibly underranked intelligence chiefs.
14th Mar '18 9:53:48 AM Morgenthaler
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* Part of the satire in ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' is the fact that Rico rockets up the ranks because his superior officers keep dying. "Fresh meat for the grinder" indeed. Carmen and Zander are watch officers within a year of their joining the fleet. Carl is the only one who seems suited to his rank after going through Military Intelligence training, though his young age still stands out among the older Psi-Corps officers. (Perhaps Psi-Corps rank is mostly ability-based.)

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* Part of the satire in ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' is the fact that Rico rockets up the ranks because his superior officers keep dying. "Fresh meat for the grinder" indeed. Carmen and Zander are watch officers within a year of their joining the fleet. Carl is the only one who seems suited to his rank (Colonel) after going through Military Intelligence training, though his young age still stands out among the older Psi-Corps officers. (Perhaps Psi-Corps rank is mostly ability-based.)
2nd Feb '18 6:26:32 AM chilled0ut
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** This is actually a subversion. Carol retired from the Air Force to become head of security at the Cape with a rank of Major (O-4) at the age of 28, which is impressive, but absolutely doable. Her promotion to Colonel came in the early '00s, after her Air Force commission was reactivated, and was a special promotion courtesy so that she could run a division of the Department of Homeland Security. Before that, her role in Air Force Intelligence gave her "the ability to temporarily upgrade to Colonel on missions" because "the extra clout came in handy", but it wasn't a permanent rank.
7th Jan '18 2:47:54 PM StarSword
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* ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'': {{Exaggerated}}.

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* ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'': {{Exaggerated}}. Your rise from ensign to fleet admiral (or their factional equivalents, see below) canonically takes a total of ''eighteen months''.
7th Jan '18 2:46:06 PM StarSword
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* ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'':

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* ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'':''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'': {{Exaggerated}}.
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