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16th Sep '16 11:03:14 PM JackG
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* ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. Jim Gordon is promoted from Lieutenant to Police Commissioner literally overnight. Mind you with the previous police commissioner poisoned only the day before by the Joker, maybe [[HighTurnoverRate there weren't any other volunteers]].
7th Sep '16 10:58:56 PM ChrisX
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** Lastly, we have Hazama himself, hard as that is to believe. [[spoiler:In addition to going out of his way to keep secrets from the very government he's supposed to be serving, he is also clearly psychotic and loses his temper when things go wrong for him, regardless of the offender's rank (he even objected to a "Cease!" order from the Imperator herself). On top of that, he is only as effective as he is because he's had countless iterations of a century-long timeloop and equally countless possibilities of the continuum shift to study; in ''Slight Hope'' alone he commits [[FailedASpotCheck several]] [[NotNowKiddo Intelligence]] [[LooseLips faux pas]] in front of his subordinate, some of which a Captain shouldn't be caught dead committing, and gets mad at her [[SpannerInTheWorks over the inevitable result]]. It becomes clear throughout ''Slight Hope'', if not ''[=BlazBlue=]'' in general, that he only got his role in Intelligence as a patsy to the intended [[PuppetKing Puppet Imperator]].]]

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** Lastly, we have Hazama himself, hard as that is to believe. [[spoiler:In addition to going out of his way to keep secrets from the very government he's supposed to be serving, he is also clearly psychotic and loses his temper when things go wrong for him, regardless of the offender's rank (he even objected to a "Cease!" order from the Imperator herself). On top of that, he is only as effective as he is because he's had countless iterations of a century-long timeloop and equally countless possibilities of the continuum shift to study; in ''Slight Hope'' alone he commits [[FailedASpotCheck several]] [[NotNowKiddo Intelligence]] [[LooseLips faux pas]] in front of his subordinate, some of which a Captain shouldn't be caught dead committing, and gets mad at her [[SpannerInTheWorks over the inevitable result]]. It becomes clear throughout ''Slight Hope'', if not ''[=BlazBlue=]'' in general, that he only got his role in Intelligence as a patsy to the intended [[PuppetKing Puppet Imperator]]. Or so he would believe that he's in control of the Imperator, when eventually the Imperator shows that ''he's'' the actual patsy.]]
17th Aug '16 11:19:53 PM PaulA
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* In the backstory of the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'', Piotr Vorkosigan made full General in his early twenties. There was a war going on at the time, and the Emperor wasn't able to give him more substantial rewards for his services like supplies or reinforcements. Despite this, Piotr proved himself a FourStarBadass, and kept that reputation well into his seventies, despite the nature of war on Barrayar evolving from cavalry tactics all the way into the space age over the course of his life.
** Inverted with the head of Imperial Security through most of the series. It's not technically a military post - the Emperor points out once that while it has traditionally been held by a serving officer, there is no law that prevents him appointing a civilian - but it wields enormous power. When Simon Illyan takes the reigns, he is reluctant to promote himself above his predecessor, the legendary Captain Negri, and thus serves as a Captain for his entire career, while routinely tackling duties that are vital to the continued survival of Barrayar and commanding a force of thousands. He is drawing a Vice-Admiral's pay by the time of his retirement, though.

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* ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
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In the backstory of the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'', backstory, Piotr Vorkosigan made full General in his early twenties. There was a war going on at the time, and the Emperor wasn't able to give him more substantial rewards for his services like supplies or reinforcements. Despite this, Piotr proved himself a FourStarBadass, and kept that reputation well into his seventies, despite the nature of war on Barrayar evolving from cavalry tactics all the way into the space age over the course of his life.
** Inverted with the head of Imperial Security through most of the series. It's not technically a military post - -- the Emperor points out once that while it has traditionally been held by a serving officer, there is no law that prevents him appointing a civilian - -- but it wields enormous power. When Simon Illyan takes the reigns, he is reluctant to promote himself above his predecessor, the legendary Captain Negri, and thus serves as a Captain for his entire career, while routinely tackling duties that are vital to the continued survival of Barrayar and commanding a force of thousands. He is drawing a Vice-Admiral's pay by the time of his retirement, though.
8th Aug '16 6:08:46 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* The ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' series.
** Miranda Keyes is a borderline case with her rank of Lieutenant-Commander, then later Commander. She is competent, she does her job to the letter, the soldiers under her trust her explicitly, and she always keeps a level head on her shoulders. At the time of her death, [[http://www.halopedian.com/Miranda_Keyes she was twenty-seven years old]]. It should be noted that she is a Commander during a war where the UNSC has been repeatedly getting slaughtered in fleet engagements. She is a Commander because not only is she competent, most of the officers with more experience than her are dead.
** [[VideoGame/HaloReach Several of NOBLE Team's members]], like Carter and Kat hold high ranks and are even younger (Kat being an Lt. Commander at 22, Carter being a Commander at 32), but it's justified because they've been soldiers since they were children. It's also mentioned via WordOfGod that this is primarily to give them command over any necessary conventional forces in the event of a crisis. This policy is not dissimilar to some RealLife special forces units.

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* The ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' series.''Franchise/{{Halo}}'':.
** Miranda Keyes is a borderline case with her rank of Lieutenant-Commander, then later Commander. She is competent, she does her job to the letter, the soldiers under her trust her explicitly, and she always keeps a level head on her shoulders. At the time of her death, [[http://www.halopedian.com/Miranda_Keyes halopedia.org/Miranda_Keyes she was twenty-seven years old]]. It should be noted that she is a Commander during a war where the UNSC has been repeatedly getting slaughtered in fleet engagements. She is a Commander engagements; she has her rank because not only is she competent, but most of the officers with more experience than her are dead.
** [[VideoGame/HaloReach ''VideoGame/HaloReach'': Several of NOBLE Team's members]], members, like Carter and Kat Kat, hold high ranks and are even younger (Kat being an Lt. Commander at 22, Carter being a Commander at 32), but it's justified because they've been soldiers since they were children. It's also mentioned via WordOfGod that this is primarily to give them command over any necessary conventional forces in the event of a crisis.crisis (and to prevent any "''Oscar Sierra'' light-switch" from interfering with their missions). This policy is not dissimilar to some RealLife special forces units.
5th Jul '16 5:18:27 AM Bissek
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* The ''Franchise/StarWars'' series really suffers from this. Almost immediately after joining the Rebel Alliance, Luke is made a fighter pilot despite almost zero combat experience, by the time of ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' he's a commander, and a general by ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', not bad for someone who's canonically 19. Meanwhile Han is first a captain and then a general in the same amount of time, despite not officially joining the Rebellion until ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', and spending the period between ''[[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Empire]]'' and ''[[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Jedi]]'' in carbonite. Lando also gets made a general shortly after joining the Rebellion himself. It gets really silly during the Endor mission, where General Solo commands a squad of around ten people, including Luke (another general) and Leia, whose rank is never really defined, but appears to be somewhere between a political leader and a flag officer. At the very least Lando's mission (leading the assault on the Death Star II) was appropriate to his rank.

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* The ''Franchise/StarWars'' series really suffers from this. Almost immediately after joining the Rebel Alliance, Luke is made a fighter pilot despite almost zero combat experience, by the time of ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' he's a commander, and a general by ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', not bad for someone who's canonically 19. Meanwhile Han is first a captain and then a general in the same amount of time, despite not officially joining the Rebellion until ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', and spending the period between ''[[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Empire]]'' and ''[[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Jedi]]'' in carbonite. Lando also gets made a general shortly after joining the Rebellion himself.himself (Though mention is made of him having previous command experience, which might explain why he was given the rank). It gets really silly during the Endor mission, where General Solo commands a squad of around ten people, including Luke (another general) and Leia, whose rank is never really defined, but appears to be somewhere between a political leader and a flag officer. At the very least Lando's mission (leading the assault on the Death Star II) was appropriate to his rank.
15th Jun '16 6:43:38 PM Doug86
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** Some {{Truth In Television}} with this, as many of the high-ranking officers of {{World War One}} were educated in 19th century tactics, and still believed that bayonet charges would win battles, often sending soldiers charging to their deaths from machine gun fire by the thousands.

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** Some {{Truth In Television}} TruthInTelevision with this, as many of the high-ranking officers of {{World War One}} UsefulNotes/WorldWarI were educated in 19th century tactics, and still believed that bayonet charges would win battles, often sending soldiers charging to their deaths from machine gun fire by the thousands.
25th May '16 2:35:29 PM MRAustin
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* In the backstory of the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'', Piotyr Vorkosigan made full General in his early twenties. There was a war going on at the time, and the Emperor wasn't able to give him more substantial rewards for his services like supplies or reinforcements. Despite this, Piotyr proved himself a FourStarBadass, and kept that reputation well into his seventies, despite the nature of war on Barrayar evolving from cavalry tactics all the way into the space age over the course of his life.

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* In the backstory of the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'', Piotyr Piotr Vorkosigan made full General in his early twenties. There was a war going on at the time, and the Emperor wasn't able to give him more substantial rewards for his services like supplies or reinforcements. Despite this, Piotyr Piotr proved himself a FourStarBadass, and kept that reputation well into his seventies, despite the nature of war on Barrayar evolving from cavalry tactics all the way into the space age over the course of his life.life.
** Inverted with the head of Imperial Security through most of the series. It's not technically a military post - the Emperor points out once that while it has traditionally been held by a serving officer, there is no law that prevents him appointing a civilian - but it wields enormous power. When Simon Illyan takes the reigns, he is reluctant to promote himself above his predecessor, the legendary Captain Negri, and thus serves as a Captain for his entire career, while routinely tackling duties that are vital to the continued survival of Barrayar and commanding a force of thousands. He is drawing a Vice-Admiral's pay by the time of his retirement, though.
11th May '16 2:07:00 AM Doug86
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* Inverted in ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars''. One trailer specifically shows a [=SolForce=] destroyer commanded by a Lieutenant. This is justified in the [[AllInTheManual background material]] due to humanity still recovering from various wars and nuclear devastation, so the [=SolForce=] ranks are a bit thin to afford a Commander for each ship, especially since destroyers are fairly tiny by starship standards (30 meters in length -- smaller than a Space Shuttle) and command a crew of a few dozen at most. Destroyers also drop like flies. The battlegroup in that trailer got wiped out in a matter of minutes. On the other hand, a destroyer still has enough firepower for OrbitalBombardment, killing millions if it's not stopped. So they put a WMD in the hands of a Lieutenant.

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* Inverted in ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars''. One trailer specifically shows a [=SolForce=] destroyer commanded by a Lieutenant. This is justified in the [[AllInTheManual [[AllThereInTheManual background material]] due to humanity still recovering from various wars and nuclear devastation, so the [=SolForce=] ranks are a bit thin to afford a Commander for each ship, especially since destroyers are fairly tiny by starship standards (30 meters in length -- smaller than a Space Shuttle) and command a crew of a few dozen at most. Destroyers also drop like flies. The battlegroup in that trailer got wiped out in a matter of minutes. On the other hand, a destroyer still has enough firepower for OrbitalBombardment, killing millions if it's not stopped. So they put a WMD in the hands of a Lieutenant.
6th Feb '16 7:39:33 AM Koveras
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* If s/he survives the fifth blight, the protagonist of DragonAgeOrigins is promoted to the rank of Warden Commander of Ferelden, the second highest rank in the [[NGOSuperpower Grey Wardens Order]] despite having joined the Order a mere year prior and being hinted as rather young in most origins. Justified as there's at most only two surviving Fereldan Grey Wardens, and the other one either doesn't want or cannot accept the job.

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* If s/he survives they survive the fifth blight, Fifth Blight, the protagonist of DragonAgeOrigins ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' is promoted to the rank of Warden Commander Warden-Commander of Ferelden, the second highest rank in the [[NGOSuperpower Grey Wardens Order]] despite having joined the Order a mere year prior and being hinted as rather young in most origins. [[MultipleGameOpenings origins]]. Justified as there's at most by the act that the protagonist is one of the only two surviving Fereldan Grey Wardens, and the other one either doesn't want or cannot accept the job.
29th Jan '16 6:27:49 PM Khathi
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* In a nonmilitary example, in ''Literature/{{GATE}}'', the Japanese Foreign Ministry sends Kouji Sugawara, a 30-something man, as an official envoy to the [[AlternateUniverse Special Region]]. In the Japanese diplomatic service, where the seniority is a ''very'' SeriousBusiness, this is ''ridiculously'' young for a plenipotentiary, and was probably done just because Sugawara, one of the ministry's innumerous aides and undersecretaries, [[WeHaveReserves was considered more or less expendable]], and should anything untoward happen to him, this wouldn't have hurt or embarrassed the real bigwigs. [[KaijuDefenceForce JSDF]], though, was pretty conventional in this regard, largely avoiding ArtisticLicenseMilitary, as the author is a [[WriteWhatYouKnow former military man himself]].
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