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14th Mar '17 8:29:05 AM Khathi
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** Hadn't Miles [[IdiotBall killed his [=ImpSec=] career himself]] [[CantGetAwayWithNuthin with that fake report]], ''he'' would've become its head, as Illyan was already contemplated retirement and has been consciously grooming Miles as a successor all that time. And given that by that time Miles has only reached a Captain's ranků Well, as they say on Barrayar, "anything done three times in a row is a tradition".

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** Hadn't Miles [[IdiotBall killed his [=ImpSec=] career himself]] [[CantGetAwayWithNuthin with that fake report]], ''he'' would've become its head, as Illyan was already contemplated contemplating retirement and has been consciously grooming Miles as a successor all that time. And given that by that time Miles has only reached a Captain's ranků Well, as they say on Barrayar, "anything done three times in a row is a tradition".
14th Mar '17 8:26:02 AM Khathi
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** Hadn't Miles [[IdiotBall killed his [=ImpSec=] career himself]] [[CantGetAwayWithNuthin with that fake report]], ''he'' would've become its head, as Illyan was already contemplated retirement and has been consciously grooming Miles as a successor all that time. And given that by that time Miles has only reached a Captain's ranků Well, as they say on Barrayar, "anything done three times in a row is a tradition".
5th Mar '17 11:49:32 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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** It's also mentioned that Havenites don't have experience in the ''lower'' ranks, leading to officers carrying out tasks that the Manticorans have Petty Officers normally carrying out. Thus leading to competent officers having to do their own jobs, someone else's job, and likely get promoted to a position they aren't qualified for. And then shot by StateSec. Note that because this is a "prolong" society, where the average life expectancy for most humans is about 250-300 years, normal peacetime promotions tend to be slow. Honor herself attained List Captain rank at 42[[note]]and became a Fleet Admiral at 55, but that was in wartime[[/note]], and it was explicitly said to be because of the rapid expansion of the Royal Manticoran Navy in preparation to the First Havenite War, as well as including promotion for valor under fire. In the neutral nations, such as Solarian League, an officer might expect to stay in a grade for decades on end.

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** It's also mentioned that Havenites don't have experience in the ''lower'' ranks, leading to officers carrying out tasks that the Manticorans have Petty Officers normally carrying out.out (this was the case in the Cold War era Soviet Navy, not because of lack of experience but because of specificity of authority levels; USN sailors had broad authority at every level while Soviet sailors got their jobs and did them. This resulted in a system that looked strange to American observers but worked very efficiently in the Soviet Navy). Thus leading to competent officers having to do their own jobs, someone else's job, and likely get promoted to a position they aren't qualified for. And then shot by StateSec. Note that because this is a "prolong" society, where the average life expectancy for most humans is about 250-300 years, normal peacetime promotions tend to be slow. Honor herself attained List Captain rank at 42[[note]]and became a Fleet Admiral at 55, but that was in wartime[[/note]], and it was explicitly said to be because of the rapid expansion of the Royal Manticoran Navy in preparation to the First Havenite War, as well as including promotion for valor under fire. In the neutral nations, such as Solarian League, an officer might expect to stay in a grade for decades on end.
24th Feb '17 4:56:31 PM Bissek
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** Inverted with the head of Imperial Security through most of the series. It's not technically a military post -- the Emperor points out once that while it has traditionally been held by a serving officer, there is no law that prevents him appointing a civilian -- but it wields enormous power. When Simon Illyan takes the reigns, he is reluctant to promote himself above his predecessor, the legendary Captain Negri, and thus serves as a Captain for his entire career, while routinely tackling duties that are vital to the continued survival of Barrayar and commanding a force of thousands. He is drawing a Vice-Admiral's pay by the time of his retirement, though.

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** Inverted with the head of Imperial Security through most of the series. It's not technically a military post -- the Emperor points out once that while it has traditionally been held by a serving officer, there is no law that prevents him appointing a civilian -- but it wields enormous power. When Simon Illyan takes the reigns, he is reluctant to promote himself above his predecessor, the legendary Captain Negri, Negri (who never bothered acquiring higher rank because he didn't need it to make people understand how important he was), and thus serves as a Captain for his entire career, while routinely tackling duties that are vital to the continued survival of Barrayar and commanding a force of thousands. He is drawing a Vice-Admiral's pay by the time of his retirement, though.
23rd Feb '17 6:37:55 AM darrenr
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* One of the criticisms levelled at ''Film/ABridgeTooFar'' at the time of its release was that Ryan O'Neal was far too young for the rank he was meant to be. In fact, O'Neal was actually older in reality than Brigadier General James Gavin was at the time of the events portrayed.
23rd Feb '17 3:40:46 AM bombadil211
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* ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. Jim Gordon is promoted from Lieutenant to Police Commissioner literally overnight. Mind you with the previous police commissioner poisoned only the day before by the Joker, maybe [[HighTurnoverRate there weren't any other volunteers]].

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* ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. Jim Gordon is promoted from Lieutenant to Police Commissioner literally overnight. Mind you with overnight but still rushes out and takes personal command of emergencies when he should be delegating those responsibilities. The promotion is justified in that the previous police commissioner poisoned only top job in departments similar in size to the day before by GCPD is actually a political appointment and one doesn't necessarily have to have come up through the Joker, maybe [[HighTurnoverRate there weren't any other volunteers]].ranks.
8th Feb '17 6:46:04 AM ChronoLegion
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* In ''VideoGame/XMercs'', your mercenaries advance in rank with each level. The problem is, by the time they reach rank 12 (somewhere in the middle), they're ''generals''. So you have a squad of 4-5 generals personally attacking enemy soldiers, mercs, mutants, and aliens, even though a general typically commands thousands of soldiers in RealLife. On the other hand, you're running a [[PrivateMilitaryContractors PMC]] company, so the ranks could be a mere formality and don't correspond to any military, especially since there are only two political entities left in the CrapsackWorld.
24th Jan '17 7:56:25 PM DarkHunter
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* ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'': Asuka is eventually given the rank of Captain.
* ''Manga/SaintSeiya'': Most of the Gold Saints earned their ranks before the age of ten!

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* ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'': Asuka is eventually given a Captain in this version, at 14. Not that she acts even remotely like a military officer, particularly around Misato, who is, after all, her CO. For that matter, Misato is a Lt. Colonel at age 29, whereas in the rank of Captain.
* ''Manga/SaintSeiya'': Most of
original series she was a much more realistic Captain who got promoted to Major partway through the Gold Saints earned their ranks before series (possible, assuming she joined the age of ten!military young).



* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'': Kira Yamato is an interesting example. He ''was'' promoted from Second Lieutenant[[note]]a rank which he inherited back from EFSF[[/note]] to Admiral at once, being ''eighteen'', but this was a) [[YouAreInCommandNow a wartime express promotion]], as Orb's forces were decimated at that point, b) he was [[AcePilot their best pilot anyway]], and was given that rank so that [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority his status would reflect this]], and c) because [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections he was an older brother]] [[EverythingIsBetterWithPrincesses of a ruling monarch]] of one nation, and a husband of a [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent democratically elected leader]] of the other. It may not mean much, given how MildlyMilitary the forces in that universe seem to be, and he didn't exercise his authority much as well, though when he did it, these were usually quite competent decisions.

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'': Kira Yamato is an interesting example. He ''was'' promoted from Second Lieutenant[[note]]a rank which he inherited back from EFSF[[/note]] to Admiral at once, being ''eighteen'', but this was a) [[YouAreInCommandNow a wartime express promotion]], as Orb's forces were decimated at that point, b) he was [[AcePilot their best pilot anyway]], and was given that rank so that [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority his status would reflect this]], and c) because [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections he was an older the brother]] [[EverythingIsBetterWithPrincesses of a ruling monarch]] of one nation, and a husband the boyfriend of a [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent democratically elected leader]] of the other. It may not mean much, given how MildlyMilitary the forces in that universe seem to be, and he didn't exercise his authority much as well, though when he did it, these were usually quite competent decisions.
7th Dec '16 12:37:11 PM junjk
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** Lampshaded with "Admiral Baby". [[note]]"It's hard to believe someone that young could have risen to the rank of admiral."[[/note]]
25th Nov '16 12:22:19 PM Morgenthaler
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** His archnemesis, Jarvan IV, is the single highest-ranked military officer in Demacia, despite being fairly young. One would think it's because he's the crown prince, but no, J4 [[{{Badass}} earned his rank.]]

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** His archnemesis, Jarvan IV, is the single highest-ranked military officer in Demacia, despite being fairly young. One would think it's because he's the crown prince, but no, J4 [[{{Badass}} earned his rank.]]



* [[DeadGuyJunior General Iroh]] of ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' is listed as "young adult" in his profile, meaning he's 29 at the oldest, and yet he's in charge of a good chunk of the United Forces. Possibly justified due to being [[BlueBlood Zuko's grandson]] and extremely {{Badass}}.

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* [[DeadGuyJunior General Iroh]] of ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' is listed as "young adult" in his profile, meaning he's 29 at the oldest, and yet he's in charge of a good chunk of the United Forces. Possibly justified due to being [[BlueBlood Zuko's grandson]] and extremely {{Badass}}.badass.
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