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19th Sep '17 4:55:15 PM JAG001
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** There's also unmorphing during combat. Your character's default form can duck, allowing them to evade an attack leveled at their head without having to dash.

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** There's also unmorphing during combat. Your character's default form in both ZX games can duck, allowing them to evade an attack leveled and bringing up the selection wheel pauses the game. This is handy against shots and attacks aimed at their head without having to dash.your head; just unmorph, duck the shot, then morph back.
16th Sep '17 11:23:55 AM nombretomado
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*** From the same game, we had the boss fight against Wrexsoul, which was a hard battle if you wanted to beat the boss "properly" (i.e. with experience and loot). If you didn't care about the loot and just wanted to finish the encounter, you could instead cast X-Zone on the two [=SoulSavers=] while Wrexsoul was MIA. This didn't even need the Vanish bug (above) to work, as the [=SoulSavers=] were actually not immune to the spell. This was ''kept'' in the GameBoyAdvance version of the game (with X-Zone now called Banish).

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*** From the same game, we had the boss fight against Wrexsoul, which was a hard battle if you wanted to beat the boss "properly" (i.e. with experience and loot). If you didn't care about the loot and just wanted to finish the encounter, you could instead cast X-Zone on the two [=SoulSavers=] while Wrexsoul was MIA. This didn't even need the Vanish bug (above) to work, as the [=SoulSavers=] were actually not immune to the spell. This was ''kept'' in the GameBoyAdvance UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance version of the game (with X-Zone now called Banish).
17th Aug '17 3:49:52 PM GoblinCipher
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* ComicBook/TheAvengers once fought a similar robot. They beat it by exposing it to ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, and it absorbed his fundamental goodness. Then it declared that the Avengers were good guys and it didn't want to fight anymore, regardless of the wishes of its creator.
* Then there was the time ComicBook/TheAvengers were fighting the Super-Adaptoid (a power mimic). Captain Marvel (cosmic awareness, FlyingBrick, blaster, and power wristbands that when clanked together would make him switch places with Rick Jones, who had been trapped in the Negative Zone for some time) let the Super-Adaptoid gain his powers: while the mimic was stunned from getting cosmic awareness, Mar-Vell clapped the Super-Adaptoid's newly-formed wrist bracelets together, banishing it to the Negative Zone and freeing Rick.

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* ComicBook/TheAvengers once fought a robot similar robot.to Amazo (see JLA example above). They beat it by exposing it to ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, and it absorbed his fundamental goodness. Then it declared that the Avengers were good guys and it didn't want to fight anymore, regardless of the wishes of its creator.
* ** Then there was the time ComicBook/TheAvengers were fighting the Super-Adaptoid (a power mimic). Captain Marvel (cosmic awareness, FlyingBrick, blaster, and power wristbands that when clanked together would make him switch places with Rick Jones, who had been trapped in the Negative Zone for some time) let the Super-Adaptoid gain his powers: while the mimic was stunned from getting cosmic awareness, Mar-Vell clapped the Super-Adaptoid's newly-formed wrist bracelets together, banishing it to the Negative Zone and freeing Rick.
30th Jul '17 1:57:23 PM billybobfred
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** And in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2'' the Ranger class gains the "Mirror Item" skill, which changes it from ReviveKillsZombie to [[OneHitKO Revive Kills Everything Except Zombie]], as well as the more obvious inversions such as making Potions deal damage. And Remedies (normally a cure-all) now inflict ''everything''. The same effect shows up on an item in ''Final Fantasy XII''.

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** And in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2'' the Ranger class gains the "Mirror Item" skill, which changes it from ReviveKillsZombie to [[OneHitKO Revive Kills Everything Except Zombie]], as well as the more obvious inversions such as making Potions deal damage. And Remedies (normally a cure-all) now inflict ''everything''. The same effect shows up on an item in ''Final Fantasy XII''.
27th Jul '17 12:05:55 AM Gamermaster
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** The second boss of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]'' can also be killed by pouring Forest Water on its nucleus.
6th Jul '17 10:16:29 PM DarkSoldier
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** The [[KobayashiMaru Giant's Drink]] was a deliberately [[UnwinnableByDesign unwinnable]] 'game' designed to show [[ALessonInDefeat how potential soldiers and commanders dealt with losing]]. Both drinks were always different, but ''always'' poison. Ender went OffTheRails with a [[TakeAThirdOption third option]] and broke the game. Although it dealt with this not by glitching and crashing, but somehow creating an entire new world for him to explore.
* In "Jonathan Cabal and the Blustery Day", the titular (anti-)hero faces a Chinese soceror who has become a eunuch and used this sacrifice to gain magic powers that protect him from all harm. Jonathan Cabal [[spoiler: heals him instead ]] which negates his magic and leaves him vulnerable to [[spoiler: a succubine devil who knows how to handle men ]]

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** The [[KobayashiMaru Giant's Drink]] was a deliberately [[UnwinnableByDesign unwinnable]] 'game' designed UnwinnableByDesign, to show [[ALessonInDefeat how potential soldiers and commanders dealt with losing]]. Both drinks were always different, but ''always'' poison. Ender went OffTheRails with a [[TakeAThirdOption third option]] and broke the game. Although it dealt with this not by glitching and crashing, but somehow creating an entire new world for him to explore.
* In "Jonathan Cabal and the Blustery Day", the titular (anti-)hero faces a Chinese soceror sorcerer who has become a eunuch and used this sacrifice to gain magic powers that protect him from all harm. Jonathan Cabal [[spoiler: heals him instead ]] him]], which negates his magic and leaves him vulnerable to [[spoiler: a succubine devil who knows how to handle men ]]men]].



* ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' the characters had to deal with an alien that fed off of anger. The Starfleet officers and the Klingons puts aside their differences and laugh it off.
* ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', there was a Vulcan device that turned people's anger into a weapon. To counter this, the characters calm themselves down.

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* ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode ''Day of the characters had to deal with Dove'': an alien that fed entity ensnares the crews of ''Enterprise'' and a Klingon Bird of Prey, influencing them to fight each other so it can feed off of anger. The Starfleet officers and the Klingons puts aside anger they express. When Kirk figures it out, he convinces everyone to lay down their differences weapons and laugh in order to drive it off.
* ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', there was ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' two-part episode ''Gambit'': a band of pirates are raiding archaeological sites for what turn out to be fragments of an ancient Vulcan device weapon that turned people's turns its targets anger into a weapon. To counter this, against them. Picard figures out the characters calm themselves down.key to overcoming its effect ("Peace can defeat War and Death") and disarms the Romulan spy that had been searching for it by centering himself, giving the weapon nothing to use.



** Casting ''regenerate'' on an Eye of Gruumsh (a one-eyed, mad orc fighter) restores its other eye and negates its magical abilities as well.

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** Casting ''regenerate'' on an Eye of Gruumsh (a one-eyed, mad orc fighter) (an orcish warrior granted exceptional martial prowess for gouging out his eye in his patron god's image) restores its other his eye and negates its magical abilities his powers as well.



*** Casting Resurrection spells through [[ItemCrafting custom magic items]] or by using the [[MakeAWish Wish or Miracle spells]] can potentially get around the typical restraints on such a trick and are both things you would want for their [[DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist respective]] [[ImaginationBasedSuperpower intended uses]].
** Transmutation school Wizards are the king of this trope. Flesh to Stone, Stone to Mud, Purify Water, anyone?

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*** Casting Resurrection spells through [[ItemCrafting custom magic items]] or by using the [[MakeAWish Wish wish or Miracle miracle spells]] can potentially get around the typical restraints on such a trick and are both things you would want for their [[DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist respective]] [[ImaginationBasedSuperpower intended uses]].
** Transmutation school Wizards wizards are the king of this trope. Flesh ''Flesh to Stone, Stone stone'', ''stone to Mud, Purify Water, mud'', ''purify water'', anyone?



* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'': Assault Cannons are humonguous one-handed gatling guns that require Terminator armor to hold and operate. They're supposed to be used against infantry, but Astartes targeting doctrines were modified after it turned out they worked quite well against some vehicles.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'': Assault Cannons assault cannons are humonguous one-handed gatling guns that require Terminator armor to hold and operate. They're supposed to be used against infantry, but Astartes targeting doctrines were modified after it turned out they worked quite well against some vehicles.
12th Jun '17 7:41:06 PM GoblinCipher
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* ''VideoGame/NetHack'', a distant cousin, lacks a similar direct equivalent of the Dungeons & Dragons ''stone to earth'' spell, but it ''does'' have "stone to flesh", which makes stone golems much easier to kill -- and also, when used on rocks or boulders, produces prodigious amounts of perfectly edible meat, which non-vegetarian characters can use to stave off starvation.

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* ''VideoGame/NetHack'', a distant cousin, lacks a similar direct equivalent of the Dungeons & Dragons ''stone to earth'' spell, but it ''does'' have has "stone to flesh", which makes stone golems much easier to kill -- and also, when used on rocks or boulders, produces prodigious amounts of perfectly edible meat, which non-vegetarian characters can use to stave off starvation.
30th Mar '17 4:04:07 PM Gosicrystal
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* This is a very common strategy in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. When CourtroomAntics and [[IndyPloy Indy Ploys]] aren't enough, the PlayerCharacter usually resort to solving the case by thinking of another method of wrapping up the case or by switching the crime's premise and structure into an entirely new set of facts.

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* This is a very common strategy in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. When CourtroomAntics and [[IndyPloy Indy Ploys]] aren't enough, the PlayerCharacter usually resort resorts to solving the case by thinking of another method of wrapping up the case or by switching the crime's premise and structure into an entirely new set of facts.
30th Mar '17 4:03:40 PM Gosicrystal
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* This is a very common strategy in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. When CourtroomAntics and [[IndyPloy Indy Ploys]] aren't enough, Phoenix/Mia/Apollo/Edgeworth/Athena usually resort to solving the case by thinking of another method of wrapping up the case or by switching the crime's premise and structure into an entirely new set of facts.

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* This is a very common strategy in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. When CourtroomAntics and [[IndyPloy Indy Ploys]] aren't enough, Phoenix/Mia/Apollo/Edgeworth/Athena the PlayerCharacter usually resort to solving the case by thinking of another method of wrapping up the case or by switching the crime's premise and structure into an entirely new set of facts.
30th Mar '17 4:02:59 PM Gosicrystal
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* This is a very common strategy in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. When CourtroomAntics and [[IndyPloy Indy Ploys]] aren't enough, Phoenix/Mia/Apollo usually resort to solving the case by thinking of another method of wrapping up the case or by switching the crime's premise and structure into an entirely new set of facts.

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* This is a very common strategy in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. When CourtroomAntics and [[IndyPloy Indy Ploys]] aren't enough, Phoenix/Mia/Apollo Phoenix/Mia/Apollo/Edgeworth/Athena usually resort to solving the case by thinking of another method of wrapping up the case or by switching the crime's premise and structure into an entirely new set of facts.
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