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24th May '16 2:23:35 AM Chabal2
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* One that very much depended on wording interpretation and the GM being the kind and understanding type: In ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'', a basic spell made impromptu torches by saying the targeted object glowed brightly for an hour and then vanished. Cue players trying to get rid of enemies and bosses with a delay of one hour.
* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40K'': Assault Cannons are humonguous one-handed gatling guns that require Terminator armor to hold and operate. They're supposed to be used against infantry, but Astartes targeting doctrines were modified after it turned out they worked quite well against some vehicles.



** The DS Remake presents Dr. Lugae (robot form), who comes with a new tactic: the Reverse Gas. It turns damaging into healing and vise-versa. A player with straight power strategy will easily find him ThatOneBoss with a need to time hitting and healing. If one use this trope, however, the player can intentionally heal Lugae the moments Reverse Gas is in effect. In such case,he'll go down in a few doeses of Cura or Elixer.

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** The DS Remake presents Dr. Lugae (robot form), who comes with a new tactic: the Reverse Gas. It turns damaging into healing and vise-versa.vice-versa. A player with straight power strategy will easily find him ThatOneBoss with a need to time hitting and healing. If one use this trope, however, the player can intentionally heal Lugae the moments Reverse Gas is in effect. In such case,he'll go down in a few doeses doses of Cura or Elixer.
22nd May '16 4:44:47 AM Quanyails
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** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' the Red Giant, a semi-optional boss in Ultimecia's castle, has maxed out physical and magical defenses, making most of the party's attacks severely weakened against him, and he even mocks them for even trying. His only weakness is the same Demi spell mentioned in the previous entry, but that is not the OutsideTheBoxTactic. It's casting Meltdown on it, which causes the Vit0 status effect that completely erases his physical defense, after which point even normal attacks can take him down in a few hits.
*** Meltdown seems try to invoke this in general. You'd think bosses would be immune to Vit0, but in reality ''no one'' is immune to Vit0, not even the BonusBoss Omega Weapon.

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** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' the Red Giant, a semi-optional boss in Ultimecia's castle, has maxed out physical and magical defenses, making most of the party's attacks severely weakened against him, and he even mocks them for even trying. His only weakness is the same Demi spell mentioned in the previous entry, but that is not the OutsideTheBoxTactic. It's casting Meltdown on it, which causes the Vit0 [=Vit0=] status effect that completely erases his physical defense, after which point even normal attacks can take him down in a few hits.
*** Meltdown seems try to invoke this in general. You'd think bosses would be immune to Vit0, [=Vit0=], but in reality ''no one'' is immune to Vit0, [=Vit0=], not even the BonusBoss Omega Weapon.
13th May '16 4:53:31 AM StClair
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* The ''SamuraiJack'' episode "Jack vs. Mad Jack" has Jack fighting a clone spawned from his irrational anger. At the conclusion, he catches on, steps back and meditates. With his anger calmed, the clone's power cuts off and it dissipates.

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* The ''SamuraiJack'' episode "Jack vs. Mad Jack" has Jack fighting a clone spawned from his irrational anger. At the conclusion, he catches on, [[SheatheYourSword steps back and meditates.meditates]]. With his anger calmed, the clone's power cuts off and it dissipates.
13th May '16 4:43:54 AM StClair
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* In ''ComicBook/{{Invincible}}'' the main character faces a villain with powers similar to the X-Men character mentioned above; the way the main character wins is he [[spoiler: continues punching the bad guy until he's been overloaded with so much energy it travels through the floor vaporizing his family and emotionally crippling him.]] This is entirely unintentional, and Invincible spends a significant amount of time and effort trying to explain this.

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* In ''ComicBook/{{Invincible}}'' the main character faces a villain with powers similar to the X-Men character mentioned above; the way the main character wins is he by [[spoiler: continues punching the bad guy until he's been overloaded with so much energy it travels through the floor floor, vaporizing his family and emotionally crippling him.]] This is entirely unintentional, and Invincible spends a significant amount of time and effort trying to explain this.
30th Apr '16 9:04:22 PM sgamer82
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* It's possible to completely avoid having to fight the ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' boss Muffet. The main way would be to buy an item from her Spider Bake Sale when you encounter it in Hotland. This is easier said than done since the treats cost as much as your MoneyCap. However the Ruins, the first area of the game, has a branch of the sale that sells treats ''much'' cheaper. If you buy a spider treat there then eat it during the fight with her, she'll let you go right away.

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* It's possible to completely avoid having to fight the ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' boss Muffet. The main way would be to buy an item from her Spider Bake Sale when you encounter it in Hotland. This is easier said than done since the treats cost as much as your MoneyCap.money cap of 9,999 gold. However the Ruins, the first area of the game, has a branch of the sale that sells treats ''much'' cheaper. If you buy a spider treat there then eat it during the fight with her, she'll let you go right away.
30th Apr '16 9:03:24 PM sgamer82
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* It's possible to completely avoid having to fight the ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' boss Muffet. The main way would be to buy an item from her Spider Bake Sale when you encounter it in Hotland. This is easier said than done since the treats cost as much as your MoneyCap. However the Ruins, the first area of the game, has a branch of the sale that sells treats ''much'' cheaper. If you buy a spider treat there then eat it during the fight with her, she'll let you go right away.
30th Apr '16 3:55:53 PM JAG01
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** Another tactic for a few of the other bosses is to use your character's unmorphed default form to duck under shots that would've hit them in the head otherwise.
18th Apr '16 7:09:32 PM Doug86
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* In ancient Greece, armies used the phalanx formation where soldiers would have several lines of soldiers of equal lengths with the front line interlocking shields. Because the shield was held in the left hand, the soldiers on the right of the formation would not benefit from the interlocking shields; to compensate, the toughest soldiers would be placed on the right side. At the Battle of Leuctra between Sparta - the dominant power of the time and with a reputation of having a strong army - and Thebes, the Theban general Epaminondas ordered his outnumbered troops to make unorthodox and uneven phalanxes, putting his elite troops on the left instead of the right and even more forces behind them. The result was the Spartans being overpowered, the Thebans gaining victory and ousting the Spartans as the dominant Greek power, and inspiring Kings Phillip II and [[AlexanderTheGreat Alexander III]] of Macedonia to adopt new approaches in battle tactics, changing the course of history.

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* In ancient Greece, armies used the phalanx formation where soldiers would have several lines of soldiers of equal lengths with the front line interlocking shields. Because the shield was held in the left hand, the soldiers on the right of the formation would not benefit from the interlocking shields; to compensate, the toughest soldiers would be placed on the right side. At the Battle of Leuctra between Sparta - the dominant power of the time and with a reputation of having a strong army - and Thebes, the Theban general Epaminondas ordered his outnumbered troops to make unorthodox and uneven phalanxes, putting his elite troops on the left instead of the right and even more forces behind them. The result was the Spartans being overpowered, the Thebans gaining victory and ousting the Spartans as the dominant Greek power, and inspiring Kings Phillip II and [[AlexanderTheGreat [[UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat Alexander III]] of Macedonia to adopt new approaches in battle tactics, changing the course of history.
14th Apr '16 11:20:51 PM WanderingTedium
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Contrast LogicalWeakness, when it's immediately apparent what needs to be done, and UnexpectedlyRealisticGameplay, where the tactic ''shouldn't'' be outside-the-box, but is thanks to defying game logic.

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Contrast LogicalWeakness, when it's immediately apparent what needs to be done, and UnexpectedlyRealisticGameplay, where the tactic ''shouldn't'' be outside-the-box, but is thanks to defying game logic.logic, and CombinatorialExplosion, which defines the game's limitations of finding different ways to achieve a goal, which outside-the-box tactics defy.
14th Apr '16 8:20:23 PM flocculentCamelidae
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** In ''VideoGame/DragonQuestIII'', Zoma (the game's final boss) can be severely damaged by healing spells or Medical Herbs. In fact, this is the most effective way to attack him. He has to be weakened first with the Sphere of Light, though. [[GuideDangIt There is absolutely nothing in the game that suggests this is possible]]. Even the ''complete walkthrough'' provided in the NES manual didn't say anything[[labelnote:*]]Though in that case, the walkthrough explicitly stops before the FinalBoss and just says "Good Luck!" so as not to ruin the ending[[/labelnote]].
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