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10th Jul '16 7:03:27 PM Demetrios
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* Are dumb, though this is a case of {{Flanderization}}: Tolkien's Orcs did have superior technology matched or exceeded only by the Numenorians and Dwarves, and possibly the greatest of the Elves.

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* [[DumbMuscle Are dumb, dumb]], though this is a case of {{Flanderization}}: Tolkien's Orcs did have superior technology matched or exceeded only by the Numenorians and Dwarves, and possibly the greatest of the Elves.



* Are oftentimes made solely as artificial creatures rather than reproducing naturally, thus explaining the aforementioned lack of females. ''LOTR'' implies that Morgoth created them as "a mockery of the Elves".

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* Are oftentimes made solely as artificial creatures rather than reproducing naturally, thus explaining the aforementioned lack of females. ''LOTR'' implies that Morgoth created them as "a "[[EvilCounterpart a mockery of the Elves".Elves]]".



* Are farmore likely to have a more fully fleshed-out culture than Tokienesque orcs. But unlike other races, they rarely have a direct [[FantasyCounterpartCulture real-world counterpart]], but are instead a mishmash of various tribal cultures.

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* Are farmore far more likely to have a more fully fleshed-out culture than Tokienesque orcs. But unlike other races, they rarely have a direct [[FantasyCounterpartCulture real-world counterpart]], but are instead a mishmash of various tribal cultures.
9th Jul '16 5:59:16 AM RainingMetal
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** Meanwhile the Marnucks are essentially Tolkien orcs, aside from their blue skin.
20th Jun '16 1:58:22 AM KingClark
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It's worth mentioning that the actual [[VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} Blizzard orcs]] ''were'' originally fit the Evil Mook (if still {{Villain Protagonist}}s) template of "Tolkien" Orcs in the first Warcraft game. They gained more depth in the second game, becoming leaders of a "barbarian coalition", bringing LaughablyEvil Goblins and vengeance-driven TragicMonster Trolls in the second game. After the destruction of the war machine that was the Orcish Horde, the Orc were put into human internment camps, as prisoners, but gained their freedom and eventual redemption in the cancelled AdventureGame ''Lord of the Clans'', the story of which formed the basis of a novel and later incorporated into the backstory of ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} III''. According to some, the first ''Warcraft'' game began as a ''Warhammer'' adaption that Blizzard was making before the license was rescinded. This may or may not be true, but the first Warcraft game Orcs were quite similar to the Orcs introduced in''Warhammer''.

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It's worth mentioning that the actual [[VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} Blizzard orcs]] ''were'' originally fit the Evil Mook (if still {{Villain Protagonist}}s) template of "Tolkien" Orcs in the first Warcraft game. They gained more depth in the second game, becoming leaders of a "barbarian coalition", bringing LaughablyEvil Goblins and vengeance-driven TragicMonster Trolls in the second game. After the destruction of the war machine that was the Orcish Horde, the Orc were put into human internment camps, as prisoners, but gained their freedom and eventual redemption in the cancelled AdventureGame ''Lord of the Clans'', the story of which formed the basis of a novel and later incorporated into the backstory of ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} III''. According to some, the first ''Warcraft'' game began as a ''Warhammer'' adaption that Blizzard was making before the license was rescinded. This may or may not be true, but the first Warcraft game Orcs were quite similar to the Orcs introduced in''Warhammer''.
in ''Warhammer''.
18th Jun '16 4:55:18 AM Saveelich
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* The Gamorreans of ''Franchise/StarWars'' are brutish, strong, green, pig-snouted and tusked, matriarchal, violent brutes with low intelligence.

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* The Gamorreans of ''Franchise/StarWars'' are brutish, strong, green, pig-snouted ''Film/LordOfTheRings'' and tusked, matriarchal, violent brutes with low intelligence.''Film/TheHobbit'' naturally adapted the "Tolkienesque" type to serve as {{mooks}} for [[EvilOverlord Sauron]].


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* The Gamorreans of ''Franchise/StarWars'' (appearing in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'') are brutish, strong, green, pig-snouted and tusked, matriarchal, violent brutes with low intelligence.
18th Jun '16 4:37:31 AM Saveelich
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* ''Film/WarCraft2016'', being based on a game made by the TropeCodifier of Blizzard-style orcs, obviously has a multitude of examples of the latter type. There's a lot of women, orcs have friendships, families and sacred traditions, and orc protagonist Durotan is treated as just as important as humans.

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* ''Film/WarCraft2016'', being based on a game made by the TropeCodifier of Blizzard-style orcs, obviously has a multitude of examples of the latter type. There's a lot of women, orcs have friendships, families families, a CodeOfHonour and sacred traditions, and orc traditions. Orc protagonist Durotan is treated as just as important as humans.humans and questions the actions and motivations of Gul'dan, the SorcerousOverlord who commands the Horde.
18th Jun '16 4:31:16 AM Saveelich
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* Are most likely to be FacelessGoons[=/=]{{Mooks}}.




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18th Jun '16 4:28:12 AM Saveelich
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* Are oftentimes made solely as artificial creatures rather than reproducing naturally, thus explaining the aforementioned lack of females.''LOTR'' implies that Morgoth created them as "a mockery of the Elves."

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* Are oftentimes made solely as artificial creatures rather than reproducing naturally, thus explaining the aforementioned lack of females. ''LOTR'' implies that Morgoth created them as "a mockery of the Elves."Elves".




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18th Jun '16 4:26:19 AM Saveelich
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!!Tolkienesque or "traditional" orcs:



!!Tolkienesque or "traditional" orcs:



!!Creator/{{Blizzard|Entertainment}}-style or "revisionist" orcs



[[caption-width-right:275: Top: Thrall, the most prominent exemplar of this type from ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''\\

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[[caption-width-right:275: Top: Thrall, the most prominent exemplar of this type type, from ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''\\''VideoGame/WarCraft''\\



!!Creator/{{Blizzard|Entertainment}}-style or "revisionist" orcs
13th Jun '16 9:04:43 AM Kakai
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* ''Film/WarCraft2016'', being based on a game made by the TropeCodifier of Blizzard-style orcs, obviously has a multitude of examples of the latter type. There's a lot of women, orcs have friendships, families and sacred traditions, and orc protagonist Durotan is treated as just as important as humans.
8th Jun '16 11:47:50 PM gewunomox
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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' has the Jaegermonsters, who - other than their nigh-{{Immortal}} SuperSoldier by MadScientist origin - fit this trope very nicely. They have a code that defines them to the point that there are "former" Jaegers. Their loyalty to the (MadScientist) Heterodynes and ludicrous strength tends to lead them to be Europa's bogeymen. They also have an interesting culture around (comedic) violence and hats, which are evidently a combination of status symbols and a sign of worthiness. Also, when we see a bar for (patched-up, too wounded to fight) Jaegers at one point in the story, it's a pretty typical rowdy establishment... until the nightly bar fight starts, at which point everything becomes a massive ImprovisedWeapon brawl.

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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' has the Jaegermonsters, who - other than their nigh-{{Immortal}} nigh-[[{{Immortality}} immortal]] SuperSoldier by MadScientist origin - fit this trope very nicely. They have a code that defines them to the point that there are "former" Jaegers. Their loyalty to the (MadScientist) Heterodynes and ludicrous strength tends to lead them to be Europa's bogeymen. They also have an interesting culture around (comedic) violence and hats, which are evidently a combination of status symbols and a sign of worthiness. Also, when we see a bar for (patched-up, too wounded to fight) Jaegers at one point in the story, it's a pretty typical rowdy establishment... until the nightly bar fight starts, at which point everything becomes a massive ImprovisedWeapon brawl.
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