History Main / OurOrcsareDifferent

8th Oct '17 5:01:31 PM Zaptech
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Interestingly, by the time of ''Literature/TheAlloyOfLaw'', set several hundred years after the ''Mistborn'' books and after [[spoiler: Ruin was absorbed into Harmony]], the koloss are less mindlessly violent, turning into a more Warcraft-style of orc with distinct cultures and tribal societies, and due to the influence of [[spoiler: Harmony recreating the world]], they have developed into their own distinct species capable of [[HalfHumanHybrid interbreeding with humans.]]
29th Sep '17 2:09:21 AM VVK
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''WebComic/{{Sluggy Freelance}}'s'' ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' parody naturally has its own version of orcs, called Gorks. The only notable thing about them is the joke that they're the race of choice for players who like to pretend they're playing as monsters when they're really green humans with tusks.
29th Sep '17 2:00:31 AM VVK
Is there an issue? Send a Message


The word ''orc'' comes from [[UsefulNotes/AngloSaxons Old English]] and shares linguistic roots with ''[[OurOgresAreHungrier ogre]]'', borrowed from French. Both terms are related to the Latin ''[[OrcusOnHisThrone Orcus]]'', the name of an Etruscan/Roman god of TheUnderworld which came to denote the place itself (like Greek ''Hades''). Later, ''Orcus'' was [[HijackedByJesus glossed]] as a term for a demon or hell itself. Thus, the Old English word ''orc'', as attested by medieval glossaries - as well as cognates in other languages like French ''ogre'' and Italian ''orco'' - denoted a kind of demon or monster. However, the only appearance of ''orc'' in surviving Old English literature comes from ''Literature/{{Beowulf}}'' in the form ''orcnéas'', "demon-corpses", sometimes translated as "living dead" - [[OurGhoulsAreDifferent ghouls,]] perhaps? ''Orcnéas'' are said to be evil creatures descended from [[TheDescendantsOfCain Cain]], together with ''eotenas'' ([[OurGiantsAreBigger giants]]), ''ylfe'' ([[OurElvesAreDifferent elves]]) and ''gigantas'' (giants, again, so ''eotenas'' is sometimes translated as ogres or [[AllTrollsAreDifferent trolls]]). [[note]]Confusingly, a homonym of ''orc'' also exists in Old English with the meaning of "cup" or some other sort of "vessel", with the plural ''orcas'' appearing in ''Beowulf''. This is also derived from Latin, but is completely unrelated to ''Orcus'' since it comes from ''urceus'', much later ''orca'' - which itself has a homonym meaning "whale", hence killer whales are called orcas.[[/note]]

to:

The word ''orc'' comes from [[UsefulNotes/AngloSaxons Old English]] and shares linguistic roots with ''[[OurOgresAreHungrier ogre]]'', borrowed from French. Both terms are related to the Latin ''[[OrcusOnHisThrone Orcus]]'', ''Orcus'', the name of an Etruscan/Roman god of TheUnderworld which came to denote the place itself (like Greek ''Hades''). Later, ''Orcus'' was [[HijackedByJesus glossed]] as a term for a demon or hell itself. Thus, the Old English word ''orc'', as attested by medieval glossaries - as well as cognates in other languages like French ''ogre'' and Italian ''orco'' - denoted a kind of demon or monster. However, the only appearance of ''orc'' in surviving Old English literature comes from ''Literature/{{Beowulf}}'' in the form ''orcnéas'', "demon-corpses", sometimes translated as "living dead" - [[OurGhoulsAreDifferent ghouls,]] perhaps? ''Orcnéas'' are said to be evil creatures descended from [[TheDescendantsOfCain Cain]], together with ''eotenas'' ([[OurGiantsAreBigger giants]]), ''ylfe'' ([[OurElvesAreDifferent elves]]) and ''gigantas'' (giants, again, so ''eotenas'' is sometimes translated as ogres or [[AllTrollsAreDifferent trolls]]). [[note]]Confusingly, a homonym of ''orc'' also exists in Old English with the meaning of "cup" or some other sort of "vessel", with the plural ''orcas'' appearing in ''Beowulf''. This is also derived from Latin, but is completely unrelated to ''Orcus'' since it comes from ''urceus'', much later ''orca'' - which itself has a homonym meaning "whale", hence killer whales are called orcas.[[/note]]
8th Sep '17 10:59:09 AM ImperialMajestyXO
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' uses Orks, which are [[RecycledInSPACE Orcs from Warhammer IN SPACE]] with {{Funetik Aksent}}s and XtremeKoolLetterz. They have Mekboyz, who have an instinctive knowledge of technology, and a gestalt [[PsychicPowers psychic ability]] that improves the functionality of many machines and can be channeled by Weirdboyz to more dramatic effects (long story short, Ork technology operates on ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve). Orks are extremely durable and persistent; because they reproduce through spores that fly off from their skin, ork infestations are hard to eliminate once they have set foot on a planet. Orks are genetically engineered to fight and win, and any ork that's not participating in a Waaagh! against aliens is probably participating in some intra-ork civil war. ''40K'' is such a CrapsackWorld that, due to their straightforward attitudes, hooligan-style {{Funetik Aksent}}s, and InsaneTrollLogic, these bloodthirsty, amoral monsters are the ''comic relief''.

to:

* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' uses Orks, which are [[RecycledInSPACE Orcs from Warhammer IN SPACE]] with {{Funetik Aksent}}s and XtremeKoolLetterz. They have Mekboyz, who have an instinctive knowledge of technology, and a gestalt [[PsychicPowers psychic ability]] that improves the functionality of many machines and can be channeled by Weirdboyz to more dramatic effects (long story short, Ork technology operates on ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve). Orks are extremely durable and persistent; because they reproduce through spores that fly off from their skin, ork infestations are hard to eliminate once they have set foot on a planet. Orks are genetically engineered to fight and win, and any ork that's not participating in a Waaagh! against aliens is probably participating in some intra-ork civil war. ''40K'' is such a CrapsackWorld that, due to their straightforward attitudes, hooligan-style [[FootballHooligans hooligan]]-style {{Funetik Aksent}}s, and InsaneTrollLogic, these bloodthirsty, amoral monsters are the ''comic relief''.
5th Sep '17 8:09:10 AM CaptainCrawdad
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** During the events of ''[[{{Literature/TheSilmarillion}}The Silmarillion]]'', Elves first meeting Orcs thought them former Elves degraded and gone barbarian due to life in the wilderness. Which means they still looked Human/Elvenlike, not monstrous.
5th Sep '17 4:51:25 AM Nautilus1
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** During the events of ''[[{{Literature/TheSilmarillion}}The Silmarillion]]'', Elves first meeting Orcs thought them former Elves degraded and gone barbarian due to life in the wilderness. Which means they still looked Human/Elvenlike, not monstrous.
25th Aug '17 2:01:09 PM Arachnos
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Early orcs don't fit the Tolkensian archetype or the ''Warcraft'' archetype very well. Rather, they are sort of "[[OurGoblinsAreDifferent goblins]], but bigger." Their only distinguishing characteristic is their supreme cowardice; early orc cards were printed with abilities that made it difficult or impossible to force them into any combat that would kill the orc.

to:

** Early orcs don't fit the Tolkensian archetype or the ''Warcraft'' archetype very well. Rather, they are sort of "[[OurGoblinsAreDifferent goblins]], but bigger.bigger (and somehow even dumber)." Their only primary distinguishing characteristic is characteristics are their supreme cowardice; cowardice and [[HarmlessVillain complete incompetence]]; early orc cards were printed with abilities that made it difficult or impossible to force them into any combat that would kill the orc.orc, while others had ridiculous drawbacks for minor effects that made them a bigger liability to their controller than the opponent outside of overly complicated combos.
17th Aug '17 4:33:44 PM CaptainCrawdad
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** The mid-80s Creator/RankinBass version of ''WesternAnimation/TheReturnOfTheKing'' blended the two, as the orcs were depicted as being forced to march to war and, in a DreamSequence, are seen happily waving to Frodo and Sam as they pass by in the Shire.

to:

** * The mid-80s Creator/RankinBass version of ''WesternAnimation/TheReturnOfTheKing'' blended the two, as the orcs were depicted as being forced to march to war and, in a DreamSequence, are seen happily waving to Frodo and Sam as they pass by in the Shire.
17th Aug '17 1:50:12 PM ironballs16
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** The mid-80s Creator/RankinBass version of ''WesternAnimation/TheReturnOfTheKing'' blended the two, as the orcs were depicted as being forced to march to war and, in a DreamSequence, are seen happily waving to Frodo and Sam as they pass by in the Shire.
5th Aug '17 6:11:00 PM CallawayJ
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''Fanfic/TheFall'': [[ZeroNoTsukaima Louise]] is familiar with the Tolkienesque types, coming from a medieval fantasy world infested with them herself. In [[FalloutNewVegas the Mojave]] however, she is told a story of Super Mutants, who are capable of being the Blizzard types, if still having a penchant for violence, and usually not being that much smarter than her type. She even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshades it.]]
This list shows the last 10 events of 263. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.OurOrcsareDifferent