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18th Jun '17 2:26:52 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* In ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', it is posited that goblins are just humans under a sort of inherited genetic curse and not, lamentably, an incredibly valuable second data point for the origin of intelligent life.

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* In ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', it is posited by Harry that goblins are just humans under a sort of inherited genetic curse and not, lamentably, an incredibly valuable second data point for the origin of intelligent life.life. (This is, however, never ''confirmed'' in the story, leaving EpilepticTrees to grow.)


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* The ''Fanfic/HauntedMansionAndTheHatboxGhost'' FanVerse takes a mention of "goblins and ghoulies" in canon, a Marc Davis sketch of a short chicken-footed ghost, and rolls with it. Harking back to the original medieval goblins, these goblins are a type of spirits (though they do have the 'deformed little humanoid' look when visible). They are very mischievous and are a level under demons.
9th Jun '17 2:50:45 PM LummoxJR
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* The goblins residing in the underground ruins in ''Literature/{{Below}}'' have a thriving civilization, including a religious order, and they're just as capable with magic and spellbinding as humans are.
15th May '17 8:06:43 PM Theriocephalus
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** Overall, there are a TREMENDOUS number of small humanoid races that could fit the "goblin" profile, and might even be called goblins in other worlds. There's Measels, Xvarts, Norkers, Nilbogs (goblins with a bizarre inversion of reality--swing a sword at them or fireball at them, and they heal; cure them and they die), and many many more.
*** Mites, phanatons, dark creepers, meenlocks, redcaps, blindheims...

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** Overall, there are a TREMENDOUS number of small humanoid races that could fit the "goblin" profile, and might even be called goblins in other worlds. There's Measels, Xvarts, Norkers, Nilbogs (goblins with a bizarre inversion of reality--swing a sword at them or fireball at them, and they heal; cure them and they die), Mites, Phanatons, Dark Creepers, Meenlocks, Redcaps, Blindheims and many many more.
*** Mites, phanatons, dark creepers, meenlocks, redcaps, blindheims...
more.



** Hobgoblins are a bit like big (human sized) goblins, but are even more deceitful and prone to backstabbing. They have their own civilisation (a [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Mongol style khanate]] far to the east of the Old World), but are mostly seen in their role as slave drivers working for the Chaos Dwarfs--which is part of the reason even other greenskins will have nothing to do with them.
*** Which is a serious downplay on how they were originally portrayed. In the older hardback book editions, Hobgoblins were not quite as tough as Orcs, but far more disciplined, and not only dressed like Mongols, they also rode around on ''animated stone temple dog guardians'', of the Chinese style. They were also more humanlike in build and size, and were the only goblinoids in Warhammer to be able to grow hair. Now they're just bigger goblins.

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** Hobgoblins are a bit like big (human sized) goblins, but are even more deceitful and prone to backstabbing. They have their own civilisation (a [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Mongol style khanate]] far to the east of the Old World), but are mostly seen in their role as slave drivers working for the Chaos Dwarfs--which is part of the reason even other greenskins will have nothing to do with them.
*** Which
them. This is something of a serious downplay on how they were originally portrayed. In the older hardback book editions, Hobgoblins were not quite as tough as Orcs, but far more disciplined, and not only dressed like Mongols, they Mongols but also rode around on ''animated stone temple dog guardians'', guardians'' of the Chinese style. They were also more humanlike in build and size, and were the only goblinoids in Warhammer ''Warhammer'' to be able to grow hair. Now they're just bigger goblins.



* There's also the Gretchins and Snotlings--collectively called "Grots"--in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', who are bossed around, kicked, and occasionally used as helpers, ammo caddies, [[AbnormalAmmo ammo]], missile guidance systems, mine-clearing equipment, human... er, ''Grot'' shields, practice targets, and emergency food supplies by the Orks.
** They are also a fair bit more important than that. Gretchin are the societal organisers, making sure everything runs behind the scenes (Orks are noted many times as not having much energy for anything other than war, and during the sporing process, Grots arrive before the Orks, actually making sure the Orks have a society to inhabit when they arrive), being in most part responsible for the entire Orkoid Race's domestic and commercial (non-war related) endeavours. There are Grot entrepreneurs called "Dodgas" who seem to mostly have the talent for ripping off other Orkoids. Grots are rather understated in most Ork fluff, but their importance is less reflected on warfare, which in 40k is unsurprisingly not particularly well explored. Snotlings also have more importance, although most of it is implied. It seems Snotlings have some use in keeping the Squigs in check, and were at one point originally the most dominant and intelligent part of the race, and are now merely childlike organisms.

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* There's also the Gretchins and Snotlings--collectively Snotlings -- collectively called "Grots"--in "Grots" -- in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', who are bossed around, kicked, and occasionally used as helpers, ammo caddies, [[AbnormalAmmo ammo]], missile guidance systems, mine-clearing equipment, human... er, ''Grot'' shields, practice targets, and emergency food supplies by the Orks.
** They are also a fair bit more important than that. Gretchin are the societal organisers, making sure everything runs behind the scenes (Orks are noted many times as not having much energy for anything other than war, and during the sporing process, Grots arrive before the Orks, actually making sure the Orks have a society to inhabit when they arrive), being in most part responsible for the entire Orkoid Race's domestic and commercial (non-war related) endeavours. There are Grot entrepreneurs called "Dodgas" who seem to mostly have the talent for ripping off other Orkoids. Grots are rather understated in most Ork fluff, but their importance is less reflected on warfare, which in 40k ''40k'' is unsurprisingly not particularly well explored. Snotlings also have more importance, although most of it is implied. It seems Snotlings have some use in keeping the Squigs in check, and were at one point originally the most dominant and intelligent part of the race, and are now merely childlike organisms.



* Dominaria, of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'', has rather [[OurOrcsAreDifferent orc]]-like goblins (usually associated with the Red color), as do about half the game's other settings; they're not evil, though, just rowdy and destructive, and serve as the game's comic relief race. The other half are more varied as to their depictions of goblins.

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* Dominaria, the main universe of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'', the ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' multiverse, has rather [[OurOrcsAreDifferent orc]]-like goblins (usually associated with Red, the Red color), color of chaos, emotions and impulsive behavior), as do about half the game's other settings; they're not evil, though, just rowdy and destructive, and serve as the game's comic relief race. The other half are more varied as to their depictions of goblins.



-->''The Mardu all enjoy war, but only the goblins make a game of it.'' - flavour text for Mardu Scout.
** In terms of actual gameplay, most Magic goblins are small, cheap creatures that lend themselves well to ZergRush tactics or uses as convenient sacrificial fodder. Some even come with relevant abilities built right in.

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-->''The Mardu all enjoy war, but only the goblins make a game of it.'' - flavour text for [[http://magiccards.info/query?q=%21Mardu+Scout&v=card&s=cname Mardu Scout.
Scout]].
** In terms of actual gameplay, most Magic ''Magic'' goblins are small, cheap creatures that lend themselves well to ZergRush tactics or uses to use as convenient sacrificial fodder. Some even come with relevant abilities built right in.
5th Apr '17 11:47:16 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Recent ''Zelda'' games play this trope straight with Bokoblins, which are smaller versions of the orc-like Moblins that appeared throughout the series. Though in [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]] they seem to somewhat resemble [[AllTrollsAreDifferent trolls]].
** Moblins count to some degree too as the manual for the first ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaI'' described them as goblins with bulldog heads (though sometimes they have pig heads in the newer games). While most are just [[RandomEncounters generic]] [[AlwaysChaoticEvil monsters]], a few have defined personalities. Most of the Moblin characters are comical {{Card Carrying Villain}}s. A friendly Moblin in the first Zelda is known for the phrase "IT'S A SECRET TO EVERYBODY."

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* Recent ''Zelda'' The various [[FanNickname Blins]] of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZelda'' play with this in various ways:
** The later
games play this trope straight with Bokoblins, which are smaller versions of the orc-like Moblins that appeared appear throughout the series. Though in [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]] Sword]]'' they seem to somewhat resemble [[AllTrollsAreDifferent trolls]].
trolls]] instead.
** Moblins count to some degree too too, as the manual for the first ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaI'' described them as goblins with bulldog heads (though sometimes they have pig heads in the newer games). While most are just [[RandomEncounters generic]] [[AlwaysChaoticEvil monsters]], a few have defined personalities. Most of the Moblin characters are comical {{Card Carrying Villain}}s. A friendly Moblin in the first Zelda ''Zelda'' is known for the phrase "IT'S A SECRET TO EVERYBODY."



** There's also Miniblins, the smallest member of the [[FanNickname Blin species]]. They're little gremlins with pitchforks who make a weird honking noise often in unison. And [[GoddamnedBats infinitely respawn]].

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** There's also Miniblins, the smallest member of the [[FanNickname Blin species]].species. They're little gremlins with pitchforks who make a weird honking noise often in unison. And [[GoddamnedBats infinitely respawn]].
24th Mar '17 10:03:52 PM TheGreatUnknown
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* They may not be actually ''called'' goblins, but Diamond Dogs fit the niche to a T. They seem to come in sizes tiny and huge (well, huge compared to a pony) but are all hunched over and fanged, talk with a hissing, Gollum-esque inflection, live underground, wear utilitarian metal armor and actually carry weapons (a [[StealthPun rarity]] in this universe), mine heavily, and are quick to abduct surface creatures.

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* They may not be actually ''called'' goblins, but Diamond Dogs in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fit the niche to a T. They seem to come in sizes tiny and huge (well, huge compared to a pony) but are all hunched over and fanged, talk with a hissing, Gollum-esque inflection, live underground, wear utilitarian metal armor and actually carry weapons (a [[StealthPun rarity]] in this universe), mine heavily, and are quick to abduct surface creatures.
24th Mar '17 10:03:26 PM TheGreatUnknown
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* They may not be actually ''called'' goblins, but Diamond Dogs fit the niche to a T. They seem to come in sizes tiny and huge (well, huge compared to a pony) but are all hunched over and fanged, talk with a hissing, Gollum-esque inflection, live underground, wear utilitarian metal armor and actually carry weapons (a [[StealthPun rarity]] in this universe), mine heavily, and are quick to abduct surface creatures.
12th Feb '17 11:12:09 PM TSBasilisk
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** Goblins being beginner fodder is deconstructed here. The reward for quests is based on how much the person placing the quest can pay. While merchants can pay generously to eliminate bandits, small villages being raided by goblins have few funds. Experienced adventurers won't bother with goblin requests because the pay doesn't match the danger involved. Beginning adventurers see the low reward and expect it's due to the relative ease of the request and so are unprepared.
11th Feb '17 10:48:01 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''VideoGame/ConkersBadFurDay'' has goblins called goblings as common enemies and [=NPCs=]. The first variation is water gobling, a green goblin that is found near water and wears a spiked ball for armor. The second kind are trash talking goblins made out of fire. The next two are a friendly lizard like monk goblin and an allied purple goblin who unknowingly wears a pack of TnT on his back. An unnamed, invincible, flamethrower-using gobling is also present in one level.

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* ''VideoGame/ConkersBadFurDay'' has goblins called goblings as common enemies and [=NPCs=]. The first variation is water gobling, a green goblin that is found near water and wears a spiked ball for armor. The second kind are trash talking goblins made out of fire. The next two are a friendly lizard like monk goblin and an allied purple goblin who unknowingly wears a pack of TnT [=TnT=] on his back. An unnamed, invincible, flamethrower-using gobling is also present in one level.
4th Feb '17 11:53:42 AM MrMediaGuy2
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* The goblins in ''ComicStrip/PhoebeAndHerUnicorn'' are basically civilized, but speak entirely in "blart"s, which Marigold can translate. Their laughter causes apps on phones to crash.
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24th Jan '17 2:32:01 PM Sturmtrommel
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* The goblin mage Mozu from ''VideoGame/{{Gigantic}}'' is the only one of her species seen so far. She's a tiny, purple creature with long ears, a catlike face, a long tail and hands and feet with three digits each. While not exactly malicious, she's definitely mischievous and has a penchant for thievery.
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