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25th Aug '17 1:43:41 PM Arachnos
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** In some supplementary materials and a lot of fan works, the Orcs of the mountains (such as the ones in ''The Hobbit'') are referred to as "goblins", while the stronger Orcs of Mordor, the Blak Uruks, are known as "orcs".

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** In some supplementary materials and a lot of fan works, the Orcs of the mountains (such as the ones in ''The Hobbit'') are referred to as "goblins", while the stronger Orcs of Mordor, the Blak Black Uruks, are known as "orcs".
25th Aug '17 1:43:01 PM Arachnos
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** In some supplementary materials and a lot of fan works, the Orcs of the mountains (such as the ones in ''The Hobbit'') are referred to as "goblins", while the stronger Orcs of Mordor, the Blak Uruks, are known as "orcs".
24th Jul '17 8:50:02 PM Gatordragon24
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* Ruckus from ''VideoGame/{{Paladins}}'' is a tiny goblin miner who hails from a gold mine called Slipstone Quarry. While only knee-high to a human, he's a GadgeteerGenius who repurposed his mining MiniMecha into a war machine that he rides into battle.
14th Jul '17 9:49:55 PM Theriocephalus
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** Other goblinoids exist as well. Hobgoblins are larger and more orc-like, and tend to be militaristic and intelligent. Bugbears (which are ''even bigger'') are brutal, savage thugs who enjoy attacking from ambush.
** In ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'', Hobgoblins used to control most of the main continent. They had TheEmpire that fell due to extraplanar & Human invasions. In the current situation goblinoids range from working-class labourers to scholars or well-to-do merchants. There's also a country that tries to recreate some of the old empires' splendor. Goblins and Bugbears were also and integral part of the empire, though they were not the ruling class.

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** Other goblinoids exist as well. Hobgoblins are larger and more orc-like, and tend to be militaristic and intelligent. Bugbears (which are ''even bigger'') even bigger) are brutal, savage thugs who enjoy attacking from ambush.
** In ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'', Hobgoblins used to control most of the main continent. They had TheEmpire an [[TheEmpire empire]] that fell due to extraplanar & Human and human invasions. In the current situation goblinoids range from working-class labourers to scholars or well-to-do merchants. There's also a country that tries to recreate some of the old empires' splendor. Goblins and Bugbears were also and integral part of the empire, though they were not the ruling class.



* There's also the Gretchins and Snotlings -- collectively called "Grots" -- in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', who are bossed around, kicked, and occasionally used as helpers, ammo caddies, [[AbnormalAmmo ammo]], missile guidance systems, mine-clearing equipment, human... er, ''Grot'' shields, practice targets, and emergency food supplies by the Orks.

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* There's also the Gretchins and Snotlings -- collectively called "Grots" -- in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', who are bossed around, kicked, and occasionally used as helpers, ammo caddies, [[AbnormalAmmo ammo]], missile guidance systems, mine-clearing equipment, human... er, ''Grot'' shields, practice targets, and emergency food supplies by the Orks.
5th Jul '17 7:39:41 AM BeerBaron
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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games present goblins in the unintelligent scavenger variety. They don't appear in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' (the series ''has'' fairly consistently had more goblins in the more southernly provinces--the ones in ''Morrowind'' were imported--so this is not necessarily proof of their extinction), with the blind, subterranean Falmer as a rough equivalent.
** The Rieklings of Solstheim are UglyCute little blue goblin-like creatures with a primitive society of their own. The Nords believe they are the descendants of the Snow Elves, though ''Skyrim'' apparently jossed that theory. In ''Dragonborn'' the player can become the defacto leader of a tribe of Rieklings.

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games present goblins ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** The series in general has Goblins which are a primitive and violent humanoid race found across Tamriel and Akavir. They have a primitive language and tribal social structure, and worship a god known as "Muluk," who is theorized to be the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Prince]] Malacath. Depending on the tribe, they may be led by a Warlord (also known as Warchiefs, typically the biggest and strongest Goblin
in the unintelligent scavenger variety. tribe) or by a magic-using shaman (who can be male or female). They don't appear frequently come into conflict with any other races they cross paths with, though have been known to live peacefully with the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orcs]]. They are also frequently [[SlaveMooks enslaved by other races to serve as labor]]. There are numerous varieties of Goblin, with some regional differences. On average, they stand 3-5 feet tall, though historically, a race of giant Goblins native to the Alik'r Desert in Hammerfell [[GiantMook stood over 8 feet tall]]. They typically have green-skin, yellow eyes with slitted pupils, a hunched-over posture which sometimes includes a full blown hunchback, pointed ears, and fangs. Though significantly less intelligent than the Men, [[OurElvesAreBetter Mer]], and [[PettingZooPeople Beast Races]] of Tamriel, Goblins do show some signs of intelligence. They are known to farm creatures in a primitive fashion, including Tamriel's RodentsOfUnusualSize as a [[ReducedToRatburgers food source]] and [[BigCreepyCrawlies giant spiders]] as [[BeastOfBattle Beasts Of Battle]]. They re also known to [[ScavengedPunk salvage]] weapons, armor, and other items created by the other races for their own use. Goblins have appeared in almost every game in the series including ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsArena Arena]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' (only in the ''Tribunal'' expansion), ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'', ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsOnline'', and the spin-off ActionAdventure game ''Redguard''.
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''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' (the series ''has'' fairly consistently had more goblins in instead has the more southernly provinces--the ones Falmer in ''Morrowind'' this role, crossing over with {{Morlocks}}. The Falmer were imported--so this is not necessarily proof once the graceful Snow Elves, close relatives of their extinction), the Altmer (High Elves). However, an ancient war with the blind, subterranean ancestors of the [[HornyVikings Nords]] brought down their civilization and nearly drove their race to extinction. In desperation, some turned to their [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] cousins for aid. The Dwemer took them in, but on the condition that they [[AbusivePrecursors eat toxic fungi]] which blinded and mutated the Falmer as a rough equivalent.
** The Rieklings of Solstheim are UglyCute little blue
into the barely sapient, goblin-like creatures with a they are today.
** The Rieklings of [[GrimUpNorth Solstheim]] are small, UglyCute, [[AmazingTechnicolorPopulation blue-skinned]] humanoids somewhat resembling ice goblins. They have their own
primitive society (which includes [[TrashOfThetitans hording the detritus]] of their own. other races which they then apparently [[CargoCult worship]]), are capable of speaking Tamriellic (though mostly in a YouNoTakeCandle fashion), and have tamed [[HorseOfADifferentColor wild boars]] to ride as mounts. The Nords believe they of Solstheim have long believed that the Rieklings are the descendants of the Snow Elves, though ''Skyrim'' apparently jossed but other sources make it clear that theory. In ''Dragonborn'' the player can become the defacto leader of they are a tribe of Rieklings. unique species in their own right.
18th Jun '17 2:26:52 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* In ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', it is posited that goblins are just humans under a sort of inherited genetic curse and not, lamentably, an incredibly valuable second data point for the origin of intelligent life.

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* In ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', it is posited by Harry that goblins are just humans under a sort of inherited genetic curse and not, lamentably, an incredibly valuable second data point for the origin of intelligent life.life. (This is, however, never ''confirmed'' in the story, leaving EpilepticTrees to grow.)


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* The ''Fanfic/HauntedMansionAndTheHatboxGhost'' FanVerse takes a mention of "goblins and ghoulies" in canon, a Marc Davis sketch of a short chicken-footed ghost, and rolls with it. Harking back to the original medieval goblins, these goblins are a type of spirits (though they do have the 'deformed little humanoid' look when visible). They are very mischievous and are a level under demons.
9th Jun '17 2:50:45 PM LummoxJR
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* The goblins residing in the underground ruins in ''Literature/{{Below}}'' have a thriving civilization, including a religious order, and they're just as capable with magic and spellbinding as humans are.
15th May '17 8:06:43 PM Theriocephalus
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** Overall, there are a TREMENDOUS number of small humanoid races that could fit the "goblin" profile, and might even be called goblins in other worlds. There's Measels, Xvarts, Norkers, Nilbogs (goblins with a bizarre inversion of reality--swing a sword at them or fireball at them, and they heal; cure them and they die), and many many more.
*** Mites, phanatons, dark creepers, meenlocks, redcaps, blindheims...

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** Overall, there are a TREMENDOUS number of small humanoid races that could fit the "goblin" profile, and might even be called goblins in other worlds. There's Measels, Xvarts, Norkers, Nilbogs (goblins with a bizarre inversion of reality--swing a sword at them or fireball at them, and they heal; cure them and they die), Mites, Phanatons, Dark Creepers, Meenlocks, Redcaps, Blindheims and many many more.
*** Mites, phanatons, dark creepers, meenlocks, redcaps, blindheims...
more.



** Hobgoblins are a bit like big (human sized) goblins, but are even more deceitful and prone to backstabbing. They have their own civilisation (a [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Mongol style khanate]] far to the east of the Old World), but are mostly seen in their role as slave drivers working for the Chaos Dwarfs--which is part of the reason even other greenskins will have nothing to do with them.
*** Which is a serious downplay on how they were originally portrayed. In the older hardback book editions, Hobgoblins were not quite as tough as Orcs, but far more disciplined, and not only dressed like Mongols, they also rode around on ''animated stone temple dog guardians'', of the Chinese style. They were also more humanlike in build and size, and were the only goblinoids in Warhammer to be able to grow hair. Now they're just bigger goblins.

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** Hobgoblins are a bit like big (human sized) goblins, but are even more deceitful and prone to backstabbing. They have their own civilisation (a [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Mongol style khanate]] far to the east of the Old World), but are mostly seen in their role as slave drivers working for the Chaos Dwarfs--which is part of the reason even other greenskins will have nothing to do with them.
*** Which
them. This is something of a serious downplay on how they were originally portrayed. In the older hardback book editions, Hobgoblins were not quite as tough as Orcs, but far more disciplined, and not only dressed like Mongols, they Mongols but also rode around on ''animated stone temple dog guardians'', guardians'' of the Chinese style. They were also more humanlike in build and size, and were the only goblinoids in Warhammer ''Warhammer'' to be able to grow hair. Now they're just bigger goblins.



* There's also the Gretchins and Snotlings--collectively called "Grots"--in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', who are bossed around, kicked, and occasionally used as helpers, ammo caddies, [[AbnormalAmmo ammo]], missile guidance systems, mine-clearing equipment, human... er, ''Grot'' shields, practice targets, and emergency food supplies by the Orks.
** They are also a fair bit more important than that. Gretchin are the societal organisers, making sure everything runs behind the scenes (Orks are noted many times as not having much energy for anything other than war, and during the sporing process, Grots arrive before the Orks, actually making sure the Orks have a society to inhabit when they arrive), being in most part responsible for the entire Orkoid Race's domestic and commercial (non-war related) endeavours. There are Grot entrepreneurs called "Dodgas" who seem to mostly have the talent for ripping off other Orkoids. Grots are rather understated in most Ork fluff, but their importance is less reflected on warfare, which in 40k is unsurprisingly not particularly well explored. Snotlings also have more importance, although most of it is implied. It seems Snotlings have some use in keeping the Squigs in check, and were at one point originally the most dominant and intelligent part of the race, and are now merely childlike organisms.

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* There's also the Gretchins and Snotlings--collectively Snotlings -- collectively called "Grots"--in "Grots" -- in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', who are bossed around, kicked, and occasionally used as helpers, ammo caddies, [[AbnormalAmmo ammo]], missile guidance systems, mine-clearing equipment, human... er, ''Grot'' shields, practice targets, and emergency food supplies by the Orks.
** They are also a fair bit more important than that. Gretchin are the societal organisers, making sure everything runs behind the scenes (Orks are noted many times as not having much energy for anything other than war, and during the sporing process, Grots arrive before the Orks, actually making sure the Orks have a society to inhabit when they arrive), being in most part responsible for the entire Orkoid Race's domestic and commercial (non-war related) endeavours. There are Grot entrepreneurs called "Dodgas" who seem to mostly have the talent for ripping off other Orkoids. Grots are rather understated in most Ork fluff, but their importance is less reflected on warfare, which in 40k ''40k'' is unsurprisingly not particularly well explored. Snotlings also have more importance, although most of it is implied. It seems Snotlings have some use in keeping the Squigs in check, and were at one point originally the most dominant and intelligent part of the race, and are now merely childlike organisms.



* Dominaria, of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'', has rather [[OurOrcsAreDifferent orc]]-like goblins (usually associated with the Red color), as do about half the game's other settings; they're not evil, though, just rowdy and destructive, and serve as the game's comic relief race. The other half are more varied as to their depictions of goblins.

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* Dominaria, the main universe of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'', the ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' multiverse, has rather [[OurOrcsAreDifferent orc]]-like goblins (usually associated with Red, the Red color), color of chaos, emotions and impulsive behavior), as do about half the game's other settings; they're not evil, though, just rowdy and destructive, and serve as the game's comic relief race. The other half are more varied as to their depictions of goblins.



-->''The Mardu all enjoy war, but only the goblins make a game of it.'' - flavour text for Mardu Scout.
** In terms of actual gameplay, most Magic goblins are small, cheap creatures that lend themselves well to ZergRush tactics or uses as convenient sacrificial fodder. Some even come with relevant abilities built right in.

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-->''The Mardu all enjoy war, but only the goblins make a game of it.'' - flavour text for [[http://magiccards.info/query?q=%21Mardu+Scout&v=card&s=cname Mardu Scout.
Scout]].
** In terms of actual gameplay, most Magic ''Magic'' goblins are small, cheap creatures that lend themselves well to ZergRush tactics or uses to use as convenient sacrificial fodder. Some even come with relevant abilities built right in.
5th Apr '17 11:47:16 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Recent ''Zelda'' games play this trope straight with Bokoblins, which are smaller versions of the orc-like Moblins that appeared throughout the series. Though in [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]] they seem to somewhat resemble [[AllTrollsAreDifferent trolls]].
** Moblins count to some degree too as the manual for the first ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaI'' described them as goblins with bulldog heads (though sometimes they have pig heads in the newer games). While most are just [[RandomEncounters generic]] [[AlwaysChaoticEvil monsters]], a few have defined personalities. Most of the Moblin characters are comical {{Card Carrying Villain}}s. A friendly Moblin in the first Zelda is known for the phrase "IT'S A SECRET TO EVERYBODY."

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* Recent ''Zelda'' The various [[FanNickname Blins]] of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZelda'' play with this in various ways:
** The later
games play this trope straight with Bokoblins, which are smaller versions of the orc-like Moblins that appeared appear throughout the series. Though in [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]] Sword]]'' they seem to somewhat resemble [[AllTrollsAreDifferent trolls]].
trolls]] instead.
** Moblins count to some degree too too, as the manual for the first ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaI'' described them as goblins with bulldog heads (though sometimes they have pig heads in the newer games). While most are just [[RandomEncounters generic]] [[AlwaysChaoticEvil monsters]], a few have defined personalities. Most of the Moblin characters are comical {{Card Carrying Villain}}s. A friendly Moblin in the first Zelda ''Zelda'' is known for the phrase "IT'S A SECRET TO EVERYBODY."



** There's also Miniblins, the smallest member of the [[FanNickname Blin species]]. They're little gremlins with pitchforks who make a weird honking noise often in unison. And [[GoddamnedBats infinitely respawn]].

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** There's also Miniblins, the smallest member of the [[FanNickname Blin species]].species. They're little gremlins with pitchforks who make a weird honking noise often in unison. And [[GoddamnedBats infinitely respawn]].
24th Mar '17 10:03:52 PM TheGreatUnknown
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* They may not be actually ''called'' goblins, but Diamond Dogs fit the niche to a T. They seem to come in sizes tiny and huge (well, huge compared to a pony) but are all hunched over and fanged, talk with a hissing, Gollum-esque inflection, live underground, wear utilitarian metal armor and actually carry weapons (a [[StealthPun rarity]] in this universe), mine heavily, and are quick to abduct surface creatures.

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* They may not be actually ''called'' goblins, but Diamond Dogs in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fit the niche to a T. They seem to come in sizes tiny and huge (well, huge compared to a pony) but are all hunched over and fanged, talk with a hissing, Gollum-esque inflection, live underground, wear utilitarian metal armor and actually carry weapons (a [[StealthPun rarity]] in this universe), mine heavily, and are quick to abduct surface creatures.
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