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20th Nov '16 9:25:47 AM Morgenthaler
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* ElizabethMoon's space opera series ''Literature/VattasWar''. With humanity scattered across space, the puppy Jim the stowaway finds is a mysterious novelty to most of the crew, though Jim, coming from a backwater world that relies on animal labor, knows what it is. Real food can be had but won't keep for long trips in space so it is a special treat supplemented by nutrition bars and [=MREs=]. When the main character's ship takes on refugees from other ships after a war breaks out, a snotty-ass captain makes a big deal about his personal stock of expensive raspberries being divvied out as rations.

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* ElizabethMoon's Creator/ElizabethMoon's space opera series ''Literature/VattasWar''. With humanity scattered across space, the puppy Jim the stowaway finds is a mysterious novelty to most of the crew, though Jim, coming from a backwater world that relies on animal labor, knows what it is. Real food can be had but won't keep for long trips in space so it is a special treat supplemented by nutrition bars and [=MREs=]. When the main character's ship takes on refugees from other ships after a war breaks out, a snotty-ass captain makes a big deal about his personal stock of expensive raspberries being divvied out as rations.
16th Nov '16 2:16:04 PM Kalaong
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* ''TabletopGame/EclipsePhase'' takes place after a hurried evacuation of Earth and colonization of the rest of the solar system. Naturally grown food, especially meat, is expensive due to the shortage of inhabitable space, but culture vats and [[MatterReplicator nanofabricators]] can produce substitutes that only snobs can tell the difference from. Now organic bodies, those are expensive because they take three years to grow and there's a lot of demand from the billions of {{Virtual Ghost}}s in storage, while most Synthmorphs can be printed out in a matter of hours.

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* ''TabletopGame/EclipsePhase'' takes place after a hurried evacuation of Earth and colonization of the rest of the solar system. Naturally grown food, especially meat, is expensive due to the shortage of inhabitable space, but culture vats and [[MatterReplicator nanofabricators]] can produce substitutes that only snobs ''insist'' they can tell the difference from. detect - but it's compared to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_wine_tasting modern-day wines.]] Now organic bodies, those are expensive because they take three years to grow and there's a lot of demand from the billions of {{Virtual Ghost}}s in storage, while most Synthmorphs can be printed out in a matter of hours.
21st Oct '16 10:17:54 PM gemmabeta2
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* Speaking of tuna, sushi and sashimi used to be the Japanese equivalent of fast food (fish was originally transported in vinegared rice as a preservative, and poor people buying the gods would end up eating the rice as well as the fish). Nowadays, sushi is considered fancy food, and ''auctions'' are held for who gets to eat bluefin tuna sashimi first, even reaching ''[[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20919306 $1.7 million!]]''

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* Speaking of tuna, sushi and sashimi used to be the Japanese equivalent of fast food (fish was originally transported in vinegared rice as a preservative, and poor people buying the gods go0ds would end up eating the rice as well as the fish). Nowadays, sushi is considered fancy food, and ''auctions'' are held for who gets to eat bluefin tuna sashimi first, even reaching ''[[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20919306 $1.7 million!]]''
21st Oct '16 10:15:54 PM gemmabeta2
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* Speaking of tuna, sushi and sashimi were the Japanese equivalent of fast food. Nowadays, sushi is considered fancy food, and ''auctions'' are held for who gets to eat bluefin tuna sashimi first, even reaching ''[[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20919306 $1.7 million!]]''

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* Speaking of tuna, sushi and sashimi were used to be the Japanese equivalent of fast food.food (fish was originally transported in vinegared rice as a preservative, and poor people buying the gods would end up eating the rice as well as the fish). Nowadays, sushi is considered fancy food, and ''auctions'' are held for who gets to eat bluefin tuna sashimi first, even reaching ''[[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20919306 $1.7 million!]]''
19th Oct '16 2:20:12 AM Kalaong
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** He's horrified to learn of the many demeaning customs his rivals the Harkonnens instituted during their rule of Arrakis based on ''[[ConspicuousConsumption wasting water]]''; upon entering the palace, guests ceremonially splash water on the floor for servants to mop up with towels, who then sell the squeezings to the poor. They planted date palms everywhere, then put up ''DeflectorShields'' to keep peasants from eating the dates.

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** He's Leto's horrified to learn of the many demeaning customs his rivals the Harkonnens instituted during their rule of Arrakis based on ''[[ConspicuousConsumption wasting water]]''; upon entering the palace, guests ceremonially splash water on the floor for servants to mop up with towels, who then sell the squeezings to the poor. They planted date palms everywhere, then put up ''DeflectorShields'' to keep peasants from eating the dates.



*** Some of his first rulings upon taking residence are to have the palms removed and for free water rations to be available to anyone who calls on the holding during mealtimes. It's a [[GenreSavvy pragmatic]] move on his part as well as humanitarian, as it ensures that the people of Arrakis support his rule.
--->'''Leto''': ''How typical of a Harkonnen fief'', the Duke thought. Every degradation of the spirit that can be conceived.

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*** Some of his Leto's first rulings upon taking residence are to have the palms removed and for free water rations to be available to anyone who calls on the holding during mealtimes. It's a [[GenreSavvy pragmatic]] move on his part as well as humanitarian, as it ensures that the people of Arrakis support his rule.
--->'''Leto''': ''How --->''How typical of a Harkonnen fief'', the Duke thought. Every ''Every degradation of the spirit that can be conceived.''
19th Oct '16 2:18:54 AM Kalaong
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** Leto is also horrified to learn that his servants are selling the squeezings from wet towels to the poor, and demands that they be given a water ration free of charge. [[GenreSavvy It's a pragmatic move on his part]] as well as humanitarian, as it ensures that the people of Arrakis support his rule.

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** Leto is also He's horrified to learn that of the many demeaning customs his rivals the Harkonnens instituted during their rule of Arrakis based on ''[[ConspicuousConsumption wasting water]]''; upon entering the palace, guests ceremonially splash water on the floor for servants are selling to mop up with towels, who then sell the squeezings from wet towels to the poor, and demands that they be given a poor. They planted date palms everywhere, then put up ''DeflectorShields'' to keep peasants from eating the dates.
--->'''Yueh''': One date palm requires forty liters of
water ration a day. A man requires but eight liters. A palm, then, equals five men.
*** Some of his first rulings upon taking residence are to have the palms removed and for
free of charge. water rations to be available to anyone who calls on the holding during mealtimes. It's a [[GenreSavvy It's a pragmatic pragmatic]] move on his part]] part as well as humanitarian, as it ensures that the people of Arrakis support his rule.rule.
--->'''Leto''': ''How typical of a Harkonnen fief'', the Duke thought. Every degradation of the spirit that can be conceived.
11th Oct '16 11:12:18 AM Kalaong
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* ''Literature/{{Neuromancer}}'' has a scene where Molly is chastising Case for not eating his steak - noting that it's not vat-grown and it was incredibly expensive because "they had to raise a cow for years" to get said steak.

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* ''Literature/{{Neuromancer}}'' has a scene where Molly is chastising chastises Case for not eating his steak - noting that it's not vat-grown and it was incredibly expensive because "they had to steak;
-->Jesus, gimme that. You know what this costs? They gotta
raise a cow whole animal for years" to get said steak.years and then they kill it. This isn't vat stuff.



** It's a point only because [[spoiler: the Solanum virus is fatal to all life, but only cause humans to turn into zombies. For anything else, it's just fatal and results in their flesh becoming unsafe for human consumption.]]

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** It's a point only because [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Solanum virus is fatal to all life, but only cause humans to turn into zombies. For anything else, it's just fatal and results in their flesh becoming unsafe for human consumption.]]
11th Oct '16 11:09:17 AM Kalaong
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* Neal Stephenson's ''Literature/TheDiamondAge'', in which one of the phyles bases its entire economy on providing luxurious hand-made goods for the Neo-Victorian elite, while everything else is produced in matter compilers.
** Similarly, diamond is now one of the cheapest materials you can have (because, being a simple crystal of carbon atoms, it's very easy to make in your matter compiler) but ''glass'' is a luxury good.

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* Neal Stephenson's ''Literature/TheDiamondAge'', in which one of the phyles bases its entire economy on providing luxurious hand-made goods for the Neo-Victorian elite, while everything else is produced in matter compilers.
** Similarly,
compilers. The TitleDrop is that diamond is now one of the cheapest materials you can have (because, being the absolute simplest pattern of the most common solid atom - a simple crystal lattice of carbon atoms, - it's very easy to make in the easiest thing your matter compiler) compiler can make) but ''glass'' is a luxury good.
11th Oct '16 11:01:31 AM Kalaong
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** Also in the series, Misato thinks that buying the EVA pilots a steak dinner would bankrupt her. Realising this they take her to a fast food place instead.

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** Also At one point in the series, Misato thinks that buying the EVA pilots a steak dinner would bankrupt her. Realising this they take her to a fast food place instead. Becomes FridgeLogic when one realizes that she works for the most important and powerful organization in the world, has precisely ''two'' superiors - yet four steaks would wipe her out. If steak is ''that'' rare, is there '''anyone''' who can afford it?
13th Sep '16 2:09:50 AM LaughingGiraffe
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** One of the handful of exceptions to this is clothing. Cloth is an unpredictable material compared to metal and plastic, so sewing machines still require human operators. However, those operators don't have to be highly trained or educated to produce cheap, low-quality products quickly. This is why very little garment manufacture happens in the developed world.
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