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* ''ComicBook/JangoFettOpenSeasons'': When Jango Fett was forced to retreat, Tor Vizsla schemes to have him and his (Jango's) men for the murder of women and children, an action we never get to witness.

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* ''ComicBook/JangoFettOpenSeasons'': When Jango Fett was forced to retreat, Tor Vizsla schemes to have him and his (Jango's) men framed for the murder of women and children, an action we never get to witness.
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* ''Series/{{Angel}}'': Marcus from ''[[Recap/AngelS01E03InTheDark In the Dark]]'' had a reputation as a master torturer, but we neither get clarity about what techniques he created nor do we see other people aside from Angel get tortured.


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* ''VideoGame/AsurasWrath'': Sergei supposedly had a record of killing many people over the 12,000 years that passed. However, he was never shown to kill anyone aside from Durga.
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it's not a subversion it's just not this trope


* Subverted in Creator/EliezerYudkowsky's [[http://yudkowsky.net/other/fiction/the-sword-of-good The Sword of Good]], in which the in-universe DesignatedVillain, [[GodhoodSeeker the Lord of Darkness]], [[spoiler:turns out to be trying to gain Unlimited Power so that he can fix the broken world and save the countless innocents who are suffering and dieing under the existing "balance" between "good and evil". Said Lord of Darkness actually asks TheHero to touch him with the titular Sword of Good, which ''kills'' anyone with bad intentions, in the final moments before he ascends]].

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* What little [[MenaceDecay mischief]] ComicStrip/{{Dennis The Menace|US}} still gets up to anymore is almost entirely reduced to this. Most of the time we don't even get to learn ''what'' he did to land himself in the time-out chair.

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* What little [[MenaceDecay mischief]] ComicStrip/{{Dennis The Menace|US}} still gets up ''ComicBook/JangoFettOpenSeasons'': When Jango Fett was forced to anymore is almost entirely reduced retreat, Tor Vizsla schemes to this. Most of have him and his (Jango's) men for the time murder of women and children, an action we don't even never get to learn ''what'' he did to land himself in the time-out chair.witness.


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* What little [[MenaceDecay mischief]] ComicStrip/{{Dennis The Menace|US}} still gets up to anymore is almost entirely reduced to this. Most of the time we don't even get to learn ''what'' he did to land himself in the time-out chair.
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**''Calcutta Adventure'': Kronick's nerve gas was said to have caused some sheep herders to get sick, but we never get to see any of the victims of this ailment.
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* Subverted in Creator/EliezerYudkowsky's [[http://yudkowsky.net/other/fiction/the-sword-of-good The Sword of Good]], in which the in-universe DesignatedVillain, the [[AGodAmI Lord of Darkness]], [[spoiler:turns out to be trying to gain Unlimited Power so that he can fix the broken world and save the countless innocents who are suffering and dieing under the existing "balance" between "good and evil". Said Lord of Darkness actually asks TheHero to touch him with the titular Sword of Good, which ''kills'' anyone with bad intentions, in the final moments before he ascends]].

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* Subverted in Creator/EliezerYudkowsky's [[http://yudkowsky.net/other/fiction/the-sword-of-good The Sword of Good]], in which the in-universe DesignatedVillain, [[GodhoodSeeker the [[AGodAmI Lord of Darkness]], [[spoiler:turns out to be trying to gain Unlimited Power so that he can fix the broken world and save the countless innocents who are suffering and dieing under the existing "balance" between "good and evil". Said Lord of Darkness actually asks TheHero to touch him with the titular Sword of Good, which ''kills'' anyone with bad intentions, in the final moments before he ascends]].
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Abyss makes it clear Dimitri never killed children or civilians.


* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'' Dimitri's status as a villain depends on one's personal perspective, and the route, but the trope applies to him on his route, Azure Moon. While he is disturbingly obsessed with taking revenge on [[spoiler:Edelgard]], enjoys killing enemy soldiers and once threatens to torture a defeated enemy to death, his significant body count during the TimeSkip, which includes civilians and even [[WouldHurtAChild children]], is often mentioned, but never shown. Said route involves his redemption, so perhaps the writers didn't want to make him too unsympathetic.

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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'' Dimitri's status as a villain depends on one's personal perspective, and the route, but the trope applies to him on his route, Azure Moon. While he is disturbingly obsessed with taking revenge on [[spoiler:Edelgard]], enjoys killing enemy soldiers and once threatens to torture a defeated enemy to death, his significant body count during the TimeSkip, which includes civilians and even [[WouldHurtAChild children]], TimeSkip is often mentioned, but never shown. Said route involves his redemption, so perhaps the writers didn't want to make him too unsympathetic.
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* ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' has this in spades in-story, concerning Evangeline. She has a 600 year long history of evil and bloodshed resulting a 6 million dollar bounty and essentially acting as the boogeyman of the magic world (eat your peas, or Evangeline will come and eat you). Despite all of this, she only does a few villainous things on-screen: sucking blood from students and attacking Negi. Other than that, she regularly helps out the heroes, going so far as to train them and let them use her magical resort for vacation. It's even hinted that her evil reputation is an exaggeration, and that she acted the part so that people would leave her alone. She still constantly tries to [[NobleDemon claim she's evil]], but everyone who actually knows her claims that [[AntiVillain she's not that bad]].

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* ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' ''Manga/NegimaMagisterNegiMagi'' has this in spades in-story, concerning Evangeline. She has a 600 year long history of evil and bloodshed resulting a 6 million dollar bounty and essentially acting as the boogeyman of the magic world (eat your peas, or Evangeline will come and eat you). Despite all of this, she only does a few villainous things on-screen: sucking blood from students and attacking Negi. Other than that, she regularly helps out the heroes, going so far as to train them and let them use her magical resort for vacation. It's even hinted that her evil reputation is an exaggeration, and that she acted the part so that people would leave her alone. She still constantly tries to [[NobleDemon claim she's evil]], but everyone who actually knows her claims that [[AntiVillain she's not that bad]].
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* ''Manga/BusoRenkin'': It's implied that in order to transform himself into the homunculus Papillon, Chouno had numerous people killed for his experiments, including children. As the protagonists didn't discover his plans until the process was almost complete, however, these deaths are never seen, and once Papillon becomes an AntiVillain they are [[KarmaHoudini never mentioned again]].
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** ''The Quetong Missile Mystery'': General Fong's pollution of the swamp was said to have resulted in people dying from eating fish poisoned by the missile fuel. We only see him having one boat of two people blown up as well as making a standard kill the heroes moment when his missile plot is foiled.

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** ''The Quetong Missile Mystery'': General Fong's pollution of the swamp was said to have resulted in people dying from eating fish poisoned by the missile fuel. We only see him having one boat of two people blown up as well as making a standard kill the heroes moment when his missile plot is foiled.foiled and killing a mook for failure.
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** ''The Quetong Missile Mystery'': General Fong's pollution of the swamp was said to have resulted in people dying from eating fish poisoned by the missile fuel. We only see him having pne boat of two people blown up as well as making a standard kill the heroes moment when his missile plot is foiled.

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** ''The Quetong Missile Mystery'': General Fong's pollution of the swamp was said to have resulted in people dying from eating fish poisoned by the missile fuel. We only see him having pne one boat of two people blown up as well as making a standard kill the heroes moment when his missile plot is foiled.
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* WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest:
** ''Devil's Tower'': Klaus, a.k.a. Von Dueffel, was said to have been a Nazi who participated in concentration camps. All he is seen doing is taking the main cast captive and trying to kill them when they try to escape.
** ''The Quetong Missile Mystery'': General Fong's pollution of the swamp was said to have resulted in people dying from eating fish poisoned by the missile fuel. We only see him having pne boat of two people blown up as well as making a standard kill the heroes moment when his missile plot is foiled.
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* Most of Pope Alexander VI or Rodrigo Borgia's most heinous acts in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreed2'' were merely implied or stated in a video about him. While he does do bad things on camera, he mostly just skulks in the shadows until the very end.


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* Mileena, deposed Kahn of Outworld, from ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'' is often referred too as a [[RedBaron Mad Empress]] whose disatrous leadership nearly destroyed her empire. We see and hear ''nothing'' about what she did that was so bad. And the only people who bring it up are equally unreliable and biased. Ironically, when we do see her in the story mode she's a very successful commander leading an effective guerrilla campaign against the actual monarchy.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'', Judge Claude Frollo has been persecuting Romani people for at least twenty years before the movie's present day.
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That's not how the trope works.


* Dr. Merlot, BigBad of ''VideoGame/RWBYGrimmEclipse'', who creates mutated Grimm and sends them after the main characters, but is never seen in person.
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* ''Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective'' uses this very effectively. Basil mentions that Ratigan has been committing crimes for years, and Ratigan later names a few of them his VillainSong. Also in his VillainSong, his {{Mooks}} sing, "Even meaner? You mean it? Worse than the widows and orphans you drowned?"

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* ''Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective'' ''WesternAnimation/TheGreatMouseDetective'' uses this very effectively. Basil mentions that Ratigan has been committing crimes for years, and Ratigan later names a few of them his VillainSong. Also in his VillainSong, his {{Mooks}} sing, "Even meaner? You mean it? Worse than the widows and orphans you drowned?"
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* The ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''/''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' crossover ''Fanfic/BlueMoon'' features Bella Swan (after learning that she is one of the newly-activated Slayers) realising that she was actually indirectly taunted by the First during its campaign against the Potentials, guessing that the First was the reason she heard Edward’s voice speaking to her when the Cullens were away. Jasper and Edward confirm this was the case when Jasper reveals that he kept seeing some of his old vampire associates in the run-up to Bella’s birthday, Edward saw Bella while he was away (Bella having 'died' for a few seconds after James's attack), and the other Cullens report seeing various other deceased acquaintances around the same time.
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* ''{{Series/Blackadder}}'': Captain Edmund Blackadder from the fourth series is generally quite sympathetic, but he also makes mention of his career before UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne. Most notably, he mentions that in those days they only fought enemies that didn't carry guns, and preferred fighting those who didn't have spears either. He also makes reference to "massacring the pygmies of Upper Volta and stealing all their fruit", saving [[GeneralRipper Field Marshal Haig]] by personally shooting a native armed with a sharpened slice of dried mango, and generally being a willing participant in the ugliest parts of late British colonialism.
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This is not necessarily a bad thing. If handled well, it makes the BigBad more credible, showing off the depth of the villain's effort and planning. A good villain is that much more appreciable as a threat, and the audience picks up on it. Relying ''only'' on Offstage Villainy, however, while not showing the villain do all that much evil onscreen, will turn their "bad guy" status into an InformedAttribute.

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This is not necessarily a bad thing. If handled well, it makes the BigBad more credible, showing off the depth of the villain's effort and planning.planning by showing that their reach extends beyond the lives of the heroes. A good villain is that much more appreciable as a threat, and the audience picks up on it. Relying ''only'' on Offstage Villainy, however, while not showing the villain do all that much evil onscreen, will [[DesignatedVillain turn their "bad guy" status into into]] an InformedAttribute.
InformedAttribute. It also disqualifies them from CompleteMonster status, as a Complete Monster's actions must be visible, either directly or through their effects.

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I'm playing devil's advocate here but, as terrible as the pilot is, we DO see Veronica Cale doing human trafficking and drug testing onscreen.


* ''Series/WonderWoman2011Pilot'':
** In the failed pilot, the titular heroine is introduced brutally arresting a drug dealer, and later tortures him for information. Trouble is, we're only given her word that he's a drug dealer, and this Wonder Woman seems like exactly the kind of person who would go off half-cocked on the flimsiest evidence.
** There is also the BigBad who is supposedly guilty of human trafficking and using her victims for drug testing. There's a memorable scene where Wonder Woman calls a press conference and levies several accusations of criminal conduct and being evil, even pointing out that ''she has no evidence to back these claims up''. Evidently she either has no idea what slander is, or nobody can/will prosecute her. This is only one of her many acts of blatant criminal conduct on-screen. The heroine is essentially performing ''onstage villainy''. Any surprise this show never got off?

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''Series/WonderWoman2011Pilot'': In the failed pilot, the titular heroine is introduced brutally arresting a drug dealer, and later tortures him for information. Trouble is, we're only given her word that he's a drug dealer, and this Wonder Woman seems like exactly the kind of person who would go off half-cocked on the flimsiest evidence.
** There is also the BigBad who is supposedly guilty of human trafficking and using her victims for drug testing. There's a memorable scene where Wonder Woman calls a press conference and levies several accusations of criminal conduct and being evil, even pointing out that ''she has no evidence to back these claims up''. Evidently she either has no idea what slander is, or nobody can/will prosecute her. This is only one of her many acts of blatant criminal conduct on-screen. The heroine is essentially performing ''onstage villainy''. Any surprise this show never got off?
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** Whilst Gregor "The Mountain that Rides" Clegane is one of the cruelest villains in the series, the reader only hears about the great majority of his deeds from other characters, rather than witnessing them directly (though there are often enough details included and enough reason to believe the various narrators to be reliable that it still gets the effect across, [[TropesAreNotBad showing that this trope is not inherently flawed]]).

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** Whilst Gregor "The Mountain that Rides" Clegane is one of the cruelest villains in the series, the reader only hears about the great majority of his deeds from other characters, rather than witnessing them directly (though there are often enough details included and enough reason to believe the various narrators to be reliable that it still gets the effect across, [[TropesAreNotBad [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools showing that this trope is not inherently flawed]]).
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* In the 2018 reboot of ''WesternAnimation/SheRaAndThePrincessesOfPower'', Hordak is the founder and leader of the Horde, but the first three seasons show him [[OrcusOnHisThrone ruling from the shadows]] in the Fright Zone. His initial conquests upon arriving on Etheria, during which he would have taken an active role, are not shown on screen.
** In season 4, Hordak takes to the battlefield and leads his troops personally. Viewers see a few shots of Hordak [[spoiler:firing on the Salineas Sea Gate and the Sea Elf Village with his arm cannon]], but most of his siege takes place offscreen. Hordak also remarks that [[spoiler:Entrapta]] is the only princess who has not yet faced him in combat, which implies that he has done battle with several princesses offscreen.
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* ''Literature/ProjectTau'': The torture sessions are an established part of Tau - and later Kata's - daily routine, but are never described in the book.
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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'' Dimitri's status as a villain depends on one's personal perspective, and the route, but the trope applies to him on his route, Azure Moon. While he is disturbingly obsessed with taking revenge on [[spoiler:Edelgard]], enjoys killing enemy soldiers and once threatens to torture a defeated enemy to death, his significant body count during the TimeSkip, which includes civilians and even [[WouldHurtAChild children]], is often mentioned, but never shown. Said route involves his redemption, so perhaps the writers didn't want to make him too unsympathetic.
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* Harry hates mobster Johnny Marcone with a vengeance in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' and often refuses to call him anything more dignified than scum, citing his time as a mobster and the ways he hurt Chicago. But going strictly by what we see, Marcone's arguably more morally upright than Harry himself; a lot of what he does onscreen, particularly in later books, is genuinely helpful to the city, [[EnlightenedSelfInterest even if Marcone has his own interests front and center]]. Meanwhile, all of his more heinous deeds are only alluded to at best and he never actually opposes Harry.
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* Because the protagonists of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows'' spend most of their time running around the country, all of the bad things the Death Eaters do happens offscreen.
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* ''Manga/AssassinationClassroom'': Aside from his shameless perversion, Koro-sensei has not done anything that is morally wrong on-screen. And yet, he has all but destroyed the Moon in the backstory and will do the same to the Earth in the close future. No info is provided on whether he massacred the combined armies of the world trying to kill him or just did a NoSell of their barrage. [[spoiler: This is later [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] with the reveal that he ''didn't'' destroy the moon nor does he want to destroy the Earth; a massive explosion is simply what happens when the bodies of antimatter-infused creatures like Koro-sensei undergo critical failure. The plot started as a variation of SuicideByCop combined with upholding the last wish of his [[TheLostLenore love]].]]
** On the other hand, [[spoiler: we find out that Koro-sensei used to be an assassin, no less than the previous "God of Death", and thus he's responsible both for countless victims killed for a price and for training the ''current'' "God of Death", who eventually turns against him. It's only after being transformed and losing his loved one that he [[HeelFaceTurn takes a turn for the better.]] ]]
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* The film, ''Film/ExtremelyWickedShockinglyEvilAndVile'', doesn't show any of the murders Ted Bundy committed, and instead focuses on his arrests, his known escapes, and finally the main trial that convicted him as a serial killer. The only violence in the film, [[spoiler: is a flashback showing Bundy knocking out one of his victims with a crowbar, and a photo of the victim in the woods without her head, which he admits he cut off with a hacksaw to his heartbroken Ex.]]
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* Any of the villains in ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' are a lot more effective when not sharing screen-time with the heroes.

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* Any of the villains in ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' are a lot more effective when not sharing screen-time with the heroes. Notably, Team Rocket were originally billed as ruthless and effective gangsters, and the larger organization still seems to be that offscreen, but almost all of their schemes that are actually ''shown'' tend to end in failure before anyone is hurt.
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* Wilmer of Literature/TheMalteseFalcon is an absolute terror whenever he's not observed directly; he is confirmed to have killed three people over the course of the novel - at least one of whom was also a tough multiple murderer himself - and is implied to have done similar things in the past in his career as a hired gun. Whenever he appears in the main action, though, he comes off as more hapless than anything, gets repeatedly beaten up and/or shaken down, and the protagonist refuses to take him seriously.

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