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10th Nov '15 4:43:35 PM EmperorZim
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* In [[http://oglaf.com/overbite/1/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'' comic a magician is called upon to use his magic to defend the town from a monster, and explains that he's a dentist wizard. Fortunately, it turns out that's exactly what the monster needs.

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* In [[http://oglaf.com/overbite/1/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'' comic a magician is called upon to use his magic to defend the town from a monster, and explains that he's a dentist wizard. Fortunately, it turns out that's exactly ''exactly'' what the monster needs.
20th Sep '15 10:15:05 PM Hylarn
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* The witches of ''Pinball/{{Seawitch}}'' do not confirm with any of the conventional trappings of witches -- there are no broomsticks, pointy hats, or black cats, just two {{Hot Witch}}es battling each other in {{Chainmail Bikini}}s.
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* The witches of ''Pinball/{{Seawitch}}'' do not confirm with any of the conventional trappings of witches -- there are no broomsticks, pointy hats, or black cats, just two {{Hot Witch}}es battling each other in {{Chainmail Bikini}}s.
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11th May '15 11:32:30 AM nombretomado
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* The ''[[GlobalGuardiansPBEMUniverse Global Guardians]]'' master-villain known as the Empress was a hugely powerful wizard... as long as you needed a charm that let you control someone else's mind, altered the perceptions of other people to make them see what you wanted them to see, become invisible, read their mind, and other mental effects. If you wanted to blast a robot with a mystic bolt of lightning, you were better of asking someone else.

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* The ''[[GlobalGuardiansPBEMUniverse ''[[Roleplay/GlobalGuardiansPBEMUniverse Global Guardians]]'' master-villain known as the Empress was a hugely powerful wizard... as long as you needed a charm that let you control someone else's mind, altered the perceptions of other people to make them see what you wanted them to see, become invisible, read their mind, and other mental effects. If you wanted to blast a robot with a mystic bolt of lightning, you were better of asking someone else.
1st Apr '15 9:00:01 PM Fireblood
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* In the {{Dragonlance}} setting there are four types of magic, Wizardry(sometimes called High Sorcery, and draws from the world's three moons), Clerical Magic(Magic granted by the gods), Primal/Wild Sorcery(which draws from the planet Krynn itself) and Mysticism(which comes from all living things). The former two are called "Focused" magic, while the latter two are called "Ambient" magic. The first two are called Focused because they are [[ShapedLikeItSelf focused]] through either the Moons or through a god, where as Ambient magic comes from Krynn itself and the living things on it. Mistaking a Wizard for a Sorcerer might annoy them a little bit. Mystics and Clerics tend to get along better.

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* In the {{Dragonlance}} setting there are four types of magic, Wizardry(sometimes Wizardry (sometimes called High Sorcery, and draws from the world's three moons), Clerical Magic(Magic Magic (Magic granted by the gods), Primal/Wild Sorcery(which draws from the planet Krynn itself) and Mysticism(which Mysticism (which comes from all living things). The former two are called "Focused" magic, while the latter two are called "Ambient" magic. The first two are called Focused because they are [[ShapedLikeItSelf focused]] through either the Moons or through a god, where as Ambient magic comes from Krynn itself and the living things on it. Mistaking a Wizard for a Sorcerer might annoy them a little bit. Mystics and Clerics tend to get along better.



** Beyond that, there are Witches (well, ''a'' witch). She even gets the differences confused at one point, asking Belgarath to perform a spell that she can't, then offering him the use of any spell components he needs (sorcery is a completely mental thing). There also exist wizards (Only one of whom is ever named, but an entire city of them exists at Kell), but the reader never sees any wizardry, and thus has no idea what ''they'' do. One of the sorcerers remarks on peoples inability to keep the various varieties of magic straight, noting that most people take everything they've ever heard about any of them, and lump it all together with the assumption that any person who is capable of any of that fantastic stuff is capable of doing ''all'' of it.

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** Beyond that, there are Witches (well, ''a'' witch). She even gets the differences confused at one point, asking Belgarath to perform a spell that she can't, then offering him the use of any spell components he needs (sorcery is a completely mental thing). There also exist wizards (Only one of whom is ever named, but an entire city of them exists at Kell), but the reader never sees any wizardry, and thus has no idea what ''they'' do. One of the sorcerers remarks on peoples people's inability to keep the various varieties of magic straight, noting that most people take everything they've ever heard about any of them, and lump it all together with the assumption that any person who is capable of any of that fantastic stuff is capable of doing ''all'' of it.
13th Mar '15 10:28:05 AM Willbyr
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* In the ''{{Discworld}}/TheBigBangTheory'' crossover ''Fanfic/TheManyWorldsInterpretation'', wizard Ponder Stibbons arrives in Pasadena, California, where he makes friends with his Roundworld kindred spirit Leonard Hofstadter. Ponder realises the Caltech crew are steeped in what to them is fantasy fiction[[note]]But on this Roundworld, TerryPratchett is still a press officer for the nuclear power industry and hasn't written any books[[/note]]. He realises their perception of wizards only occasionally chimes with his reality. But using his knowledge of ''actual'' wizardry, he still manages to win every game of ''Mystic Warlords of Ka'a''. '''And''' he finds a winning use for "Enchanted Bunny''.

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* In the ''{{Discworld}}/TheBigBangTheory'' ''Literature/{{Discworld}}''[=/=]''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' crossover ''Fanfic/TheManyWorldsInterpretation'', wizard Ponder Stibbons arrives in Pasadena, California, where he makes friends with his Roundworld kindred spirit Leonard Hofstadter. Ponder realises the Caltech crew are steeped in what to them is fantasy fiction[[note]]But on this Roundworld, TerryPratchett Creator/TerryPratchett is still a press officer for the nuclear power industry and hasn't written any books[[/note]]. He realises their perception of wizards only occasionally chimes with his reality. But using his knowledge of ''actual'' wizardry, he still manages to win every game of ''Mystic Warlords of Ka'a''. '''And''' he finds a winning use for "Enchanted Bunny''.
23rd Feb '15 8:09:12 AM StFan
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* In the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Literature/WyrdSisters'', Nanny Ogg is captured and placed in a dungeon, much to the surprise of a ghost who doesn't realise witchcraft mostly affects natural phenomena and people's minds.
-->'''Verence''': But surely to a witch, this is all just so much...
-->'''Nanny''': [[ColdIron Solid iron]]. You might be able to walk through it, but I can't.
-->'''Verence''': I didn't realise. I thought witches could do magic.
-->'''Nanny''': Young man, you will oblige me by shutting up.
** Ponder Stibbons represents a major break from accepted tradition at Unseen University. In the vanguard of a younger new wave of magic users, he spurns the old dribbly-candle, stuffed alligator and potions-made-from-miscellaneous-animal-glands school of thought for a more scientifically rigorous approach to the magical art. Indeed, science comes before magic in his priorities. He has never been seen to carry a staff, favours a drab olive-green robe with a hood, and, to the despair and bewilderment of his elders, is keener on ''co-operation'' with his peers rather than magical warfare. He also forgets to eat when something more interesting is going on, and remains pretty skinny and nerdy in a place full of three-hundred pounder big eaters.

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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'':
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In the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' the novel ''Literature/WyrdSisters'', ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'', Nanny Ogg is captured and placed in a dungeon, much to the surprise of a ghost who doesn't realise witchcraft mostly affects natural phenomena and people's minds.
-->'''Verence''': --->'''Verence:''' But surely to a witch, this is all just so much...
-->'''Nanny''':
much...\\
'''Nanny:'''
[[ColdIron Solid iron]]. You might be able to walk through it, but I can't.
-->'''Verence''':
can't.\\
'''Verence:'''
I didn't realise. I thought witches could do magic.
-->'''Nanny''':
magic.\\
'''Nanny:'''
Young man, you will oblige me by shutting up.
** Ponder Stibbons represents a major break from accepted tradition at Unseen University. In the vanguard of a younger new wave of magic users, he spurns the old dribbly-candle, stuffed alligator and potions-made-from-miscellaneous-animal-glands school of thought for a more scientifically rigorous approach to the magical art. Indeed, science comes before magic in his priorities. He has never been seen to carry a staff, favours a drab olive-green robe with a hood, and, to the despair and bewilderment of his elders, is keener on ''co-operation'' with his peers rather than magical warfare. He also forgets to eat when something more interesting is going on, and remains pretty skinny and nerdy in a place full of three-hundred pounder three-hundred-pounder big eaters.
14th Feb '15 9:52:28 AM StFan
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* ''{{Kaamelott}}'': Merlin often claims that the reason he's an IneptMage is that he's a ''druid''--stuff like having a roof over his head (for his laboratory) cuts his powers by half. However, it's also seen that he's not that great a druid either (he can't read druidic, for starters).

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* ''{{Kaamelott}}'': ''Series/{{Kaamelott}}'': Merlin often claims that the reason he's an IneptMage is that he's a ''druid''--stuff ''druid'' -- stuff like having a roof over his head (for his laboratory) cuts his powers by half. However, it's also seen that he's not that great a druid either (he can't read druidic, for starters).



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12th Jan '15 9:21:46 PM LordInsane
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* In most ''TableTopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' settings, most commoners are not expected to know the difference between a Wizard and a Sorcerer. This will probably get even more confusing to them when you include non-core full casters, like the Beguiler (a stealthy illusionist expert) or a Warmage (whose only spells that aren't straight up blasting are the "Light" cantrip, doing ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin, and Elemental summoning spells, which call up destructive embodiments of the classical elements).

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* In most ''TableTopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' settings, most commoners are not expected to know the difference between a Wizard and a Sorcerer. This will probably get even more confusing to them when you include non-core full casters, like the Beguiler (a stealthy illusionist expert) or a Warmage (whose only spells that aren't straight up blasting are the "Light" cantrip, doing ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin, and Elemental summoning spells, which call up destructive embodiments of the classical elements). And there are mage-like classes who do things that aren't strictly casting spells, like the Tome of Magic classes (with the Binder -- which lets himself be possessed by spirits for power in exchange for being influenced -- it is even pointed out that while wizards and priests knows the difference and generally dislikes them, to the average peasant it's just a matter of welcoming the ones with healing hands and chasing away the ones with horns) and the two invocation classes...
6th Jan '15 1:56:57 PM hbi2k
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UnEqualRites can be a result. See also MagiciansAreWizards.

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Often overlaps with MutuallyExclusiveMagic. UnEqualRites can be a result. See also MagiciansAreWizards.


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* A running gag on the Giant Bombcast podcast is an ongoing debate on whether [[VideoGame/StreetFighterII Ryu's]] KiManipulation counts as "magic," and whether this makes him a wizard.
3rd Jan '15 11:06:15 AM TheUnsquished
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* In TheBelgariad, sorcerers have a powerful form of [[FunctionalMagic Inherent Gift]], while magicians summon and "control" demons. Calling a sorcerer a magician is seen as very insulting. (Ironically, [[EccentricMentor Belgarath]] is ''both'', though he normally relies on his sorcery and is smart enough to only summon a demon when a). he absolutely needs to and b). it's not very powerful. He still only does it ''once'' across ten books).

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* In TheBelgariad, ''Literature/TheBelgariad'', sorcerers have a powerful form of [[FunctionalMagic Inherent Gift]], while magicians summon and "control" demons. Calling a sorcerer a magician is seen as very insulting. (Ironically, [[EccentricMentor Belgarath]] is ''both'', though he normally relies on his sorcery and is smart enough to only summon a demon when a). he absolutely needs to and b). it's not very powerful. He still only does it ''once'' across ten books).
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