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30th Nov '15 7:40:16 PM Discar
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28th Nov '15 6:46:52 PM BlackKnight359
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19th Oct '15 4:47:12 AM Folamh3
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TheHorseshoeEffect is when two people claim to be ideologically opposed to one another, but nevertheless have many beliefs in common.
29th Aug '15 6:19:23 PM ANTMuddle
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Two characters who seem radically different turn out to have more in common than they would like to believe. This is usually the resolution of an EnemyMine or LockedInAFreezer plot: two enemies learn that there is [[SympatheticPOV more that unites them]] than divides them. The punch line to about 50% of plots in an OddCouple or OddFriendship series. On the darker side, this can lead to the realization that our hero is really just a hair's breadth away from villainy. In these cases, it's almost always the ''villain'' who is the first to notice: our hero has him cornered and even seems to ''[[EvilTastesGood relish]]'' the prospect of finally ridding himself of his nemesis, and the villain deftly points out, "We're not so different after all." The hero realizes [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim how close he is to crossing the line, and spares the villain]] (though every once in a great while, he'll decide that it's worth crossing the line, off the villain anyway, and then have several episodes of moral anguish over the darkness in his soul: see ShootTheDog). Especially common when the villain is the hero's EvilCounterpart.
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Two characters or outfits who seem radically different turn out to have more in common than they would like to believe. This is usually the resolution of an EnemyMine or LockedInAFreezer plot: two enemies learn that there is [[SympatheticPOV more that unites them]] than divides them. The punch line to about 50% of plots in an OddCouple or OddFriendship series. On the darker side, this can lead to the realization that our hero is really just a hair's breadth away from villainy. In these cases, it's almost always the ''villain'' who is the first to notice: our hero has him cornered and even seems to ''[[EvilTastesGood relish]]'' the prospect of finally ridding himself of his nemesis, and the villain deftly points out, "We're not so different after all." The hero realizes [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim how close he is to crossing the line, and spares the villain]] (though every once in a great while, he'll decide that it's worth crossing the line, off the villain anyway, and then have several episodes of moral anguish over the darkness in his soul: see ShootTheDog). Especially common when the villain is the hero's EvilCounterpart.
26th Jan '15 9:07:59 AM 313Bluestreak
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Heroes sometimes use this to confront a WellIntentionedExtremist or a KnightTemplar as [[WhatTheHellHero to call them out.]] Being compared to their enemy will often trigger their BerserkButton.
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Heroes sometimes use this to confront a WellIntentionedExtremist or a KnightTemplar as [[WhatTheHellHero to call them out.]] Being compared to their enemy will often trigger their BerserkButton. For the trope's opposite, see NotSoSimilar.
27th Nov '14 1:37:34 PM poi99
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->''"It's funny. [[LampshadeHanging Every crook I meet wants to tell me how much I'm just like them]]."''
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->''"It's funny. [[LampshadeHanging Every crook I meet wants to tell me how much I'm just like them]].them."''

''We're not so different, you and I. In another time, another place, I might have called you friend!''

As a good thing, the frequent resolution of an EnemyMine or LockedInAFreezer plot: two enemies learn that there is [[SympatheticPOV more that unites them]] than divides them. The punch line to about 50% of plots in an OddCouple or OddFriendship series. As a bad thing, the realization that our hero is really just a hair's breadth away from villainy. In these cases, it's almost always the ''villain'' who is the first to notice: our hero has him cornered and even seems to ''[[EvilTastesGood relish]]'' the prospect of finally ridding himself of his nemesis, and the villain deftly points out, "We're not so different after all." The hero realizes [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim how close he is to crossing the line, and spares the villain]] (though every once in a great while, he'll decide that it's worth crossing the line, off the villain anyway, and then have several episodes of moral anguish over the darkness in his soul: see ShootTheDog). Especially common when the villain is the hero's EvilCounterpart. Also a bad thing when the bad guy points it out after the hero has bested him through questionable tactics. Often followed by the hero's hysterical protests along the lines of, "I'm not like you! I'll never be like you!" Occasionally followed by the hero's observation that they are different, because of some other aspect that the opponent overlooked or intentionally ignored. However, the hero sometimes has some snappier comeback, like "You noticed?" or "That's why I can beat you," and worries about the differences later - or a comment that the dog that protects the flock is a very close relative of the wolf that ravages it. Then again, a simple "{{shut up|Hannibal}}" can work wonders. Another common rebuttal might be for the hero to acknowledge that they share some similarities, but are sufficiently different where it ''counts''; not all similarities are equal.
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As a good thing, This is usually the frequent resolution of an EnemyMine or LockedInAFreezer plot: two enemies learn that there is [[SympatheticPOV more that unites them]] than divides them. The punch line to about 50% of plots in an OddCouple or OddFriendship series. As a bad thing, On the darker side, this can lead to the realization that our hero is really just a hair's breadth away from villainy. In these cases, it's almost always the ''villain'' who is the first to notice: our hero has him cornered and even seems to ''[[EvilTastesGood relish]]'' the prospect of finally ridding himself of his nemesis, and the villain deftly points out, "We're not so different after all." The hero realizes [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim how close he is to crossing the line, and spares the villain]] (though every once in a great while, he'll decide that it's worth crossing the line, off the villain anyway, and then have several episodes of moral anguish over the darkness in his soul: see ShootTheDog). Especially common when the villain is the hero's EvilCounterpart. Also a bad thing when the bad guy points it out after the hero has bested him through questionable tactics. Often followed by the hero's hysterical protests along the lines of, "I'm not like you! I'll never be like you!" Occasionally followed by the hero's observation that they are different, because of some other aspect that the opponent overlooked or intentionally ignored. However, the hero sometimes has some snappier comeback, like "You noticed?" or "That's why I can beat you," and worries about the differences later - or a comment that the dog that protects the flock is a very close relative of the wolf that ravages it. Then again, a simple "{{shut up|Hannibal}}" can work wonders. Another common rebuttal might be is for the hero to acknowledge that they share some similarities, but are sufficiently different where it ''counts''; not all similarities are equal.

Please note when heroes use this to confront a WellIntentionedExtremist or a KnightTemplar as [[WhatTheHellHero to call them out.]] Being compared to their enemy will often trigger their BerserkButton.
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Please note when heroes Heroes sometimes use this to confront a WellIntentionedExtremist or a KnightTemplar as [[WhatTheHellHero to call them out.]] Being compared to their enemy will often trigger their BerserkButton.
30th Oct '14 7:02:50 AM IayssLenior
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* Wrestling/{{Raven}}, after deciding that he was insane while in Wrestling/{{TNA}} and could not be cured, decided that Abyss was the same way and to make Abyss admit it.[[/folder]]
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* Wrestling/{{Raven}}, after deciding that he was insane while in Wrestling/{{TNA}} and could not be cured, decided that Abyss was the same way and to make Abyss admit it.it. * [[Wrestling/TheWyattFamily Bray Wyatt]] said this to Wrestling/DeanAmbrose on the 10/27/14 episode of WWERaw. Wyatt said that looking at Ambrose was like seeing "a deranged reflection" of himself. [[/folder]]
27th Oct '14 1:46:15 PM TrollBrutal
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The examples should fit the trope, not the other way around. See Not An Example
27th Oct '14 1:44:42 PM TrollBrutal
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Restoring , Proper way is to take it to TRS in the forums if you feel like it.
As a bad thing, the realization that our hero isn't as far from villainy as he thinks. The hero may realize [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim how close he is to crossing the line, and spares the villain]]. Or he'll decide that it's worth crossing the line, off the villain anyway, and then have several episodes of moral anguish over the darkness in his soul. Or he might never notice the similarity at all. Sometimes goes hand-in-hand with a DoubleAesop, YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood / Evil, WeCanRuleTogether, or HeWhoFightsMonsters. Can also be phrased, "You would have made a good thief / [[ProfessionalKiller assassin]] / [[Franchise/StarTrek Klingon]] / [[StarWars Mandalorian]] / [[Series/DoctorWho Dalek]] / [[Series/BabylonFive Minbari]] / [[DrPediaAndMrTrope Troper / Wikipedian]]." Compare YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame, where the villain outright compliments the hero on his DirtyBusiness. Contrast CommonalityConnection. Compare and contrast SympathyForTheDevil and SympathyForTheHero. Sometimes, the difference is only that the heroes are ALighterShadeOfGrey. HitlerAteSugar is when this trope becomes a logical fallacy based on the idea that sharing ''any'' similarity with someone 'evil', no matter how minor, makes the sharer just as evil. This trope also happens to be a staple of many a BreakThemByTalking. Can also come with much FoeYay.
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As a bad thing, the realization that our hero isn't as far is really just a hair's breadth away from villainy as he thinks. villainy. In these cases, it's almost always the ''villain'' who is the first to notice: our hero has him cornered and even seems to ''[[EvilTastesGood relish]]'' the prospect of finally ridding himself of his nemesis, and the villain deftly points out, "We're not so different after all." The hero may realize realizes [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim how close he is to crossing the line, and spares the villain]]. Or villain]] (though every once in a great while, he'll decide that it's worth crossing the line, off the villain anyway, and then have several episodes of moral anguish over the darkness in his soul. Or he might never notice the similarity at all. Sometimes goes hand-in-hand with a DoubleAesop, YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood / Evil, WeCanRuleTogether, or HeWhoFightsMonsters. Can also be phrased, "You would have made a good thief / [[ProfessionalKiller assassin]] / [[Franchise/StarTrek Klingon]] / [[StarWars Mandalorian]] / [[Series/DoctorWho Dalek]] / [[Series/BabylonFive Minbari]] / [[DrPediaAndMrTrope Troper / Wikipedian]]." Compare YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame, where soul: see ShootTheDog). Especially common when the villain outright compliments is the hero's EvilCounterpart. Also a bad thing when the bad guy points it out after the hero on his DirtyBusiness. Contrast CommonalityConnection. Compare and contrast SympathyForTheDevil and SympathyForTheHero. Sometimes, has bested him through questionable tactics. Often followed by the difference is only hero's hysterical protests along the lines of, "I'm not like you! I'll never be like you!" Occasionally followed by the hero's observation that they are different, because of some other aspect that the opponent overlooked or intentionally ignored. However, the hero sometimes has some snappier comeback, like "You noticed?" or "That's why I can beat you," and worries about the differences later - or a comment that the dog that protects the flock is a very close relative of the wolf that ravages it. Then again, a simple "{{shut up|Hannibal}}" can work wonders. Another common rebuttal might be for the hero to acknowledge that they share some similarities, but are sufficiently different where it ''counts''; not all similarities are equal. When the villain who believes this also believes that the hero denies it because he is a SlaveToPR, he often sets up WhatYouAreInTheDark to get the hero to act like it. The failure rate for this approach is...high. Please note when heroes are ALighterShadeOfGrey. HitlerAteSugar is when use this trope becomes to confront a logical fallacy based on the idea that sharing ''any'' similarity with someone 'evil', no matter how minor, makes the sharer just WellIntentionedExtremist or a KnightTemplar as evil. This trope also happens [[WhatTheHellHero to be a staple of many a BreakThemByTalking. Can also come with much FoeYay. call them out.]] Being compared to their enemy will often trigger their BerserkButton.
27th Oct '14 1:42:15 PM TrollBrutal
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If the audience notices this but the characters in the story do not, it could be a sign that the trope is being used by accident, which usually results in a DesignatedHero or DesignatedVillain situation, among other UnexpectedReactions. And, at the other end of the scale, it's entirely possible -- and easier than one might think -- to cite or invoke the trope on purpose but poorly, creating a false equivalence. For example, a character who kills to save his loved ones or [[ShootTheDog after being left no choice]] is not necessarily NotSoDifferent from a character who kills purely ForTheEvulz. The same morally questionable (or admirable) action can be taken by different characters for different reasons; motivation and context are important in distinguishing whether a similarity between characters is meaningful or superficial.
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