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13th Jun '17 4:57:43 PM MagBas
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* Highways and freeways. They make things easier for business and tourists, but also bring in a lot of noise and pollution. Residential areas are kept away from these for just these two reasons, and mostly businesses and public service buildings are near them. In the US, highways were built right through cities in the 1950s and the next two or three decades. Why was there no major uproar? Well, the [[UnfortunateImplications neighborhoods they went through]] were mostly inhabited by black and/or poor people who had no political lobby (and often couldn't even vote), something which is an all too common "solution" for [=NIMBYism=]. Only when highways started to be planned to tear down middle class and white neighborhoods did the "freeway revolts" get going in earnest, stopping many projects in their tracks.

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* Highways and freeways. They make things easier for business and tourists, but also bring in a lot of noise and pollution. Residential areas are kept away from these for just these two reasons, and mostly businesses and public service buildings are near them. In the US, highways were built right through cities in the 1950s and the next two or three decades. Why was there no major uproar? Well, the [[UnfortunateImplications neighborhoods they went through]] through were mostly inhabited by black and/or poor people who had no political lobby (and often couldn't even vote), something which is an all too common "solution" for [=NIMBYism=]. Only when highways started to be planned to tear down middle class and white neighborhoods did the "freeway revolts" get going in earnest, stopping many projects in their tracks.
13th Jun '17 7:15:04 AM billybobfred
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* The inversion of this trope can also be problematic. Say you want to build a new [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6ln%E2%80%93Frankfurt_high-speed_rail_line hyperfast train line]], to link - well I don't know maybe the fourth largest city and a major banking center of your country - of course you would want it to stop only very rarely or not at all between either terminus. But to get the whole thing built, you have to get the agreement of local politicians. Who of course want to have a stop in their district. Cue two stops twenty kilometers apart, which are - even in the [[https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnhof_Montabaur#Kritik German Wikipedia entry]] - said to be a result of political blackmail in so many words. [[note]] The line in question reads "Kritiker sehen in den im Abstand von rund 20 km liegenden Stationen Limburg und Montabaur das Ergebnis einer politischen Erpressung." - "Critics see the stations Limburg and Montabaur which are about 20 km from each other as the result of political blackmail"[[/note]]

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* The inversion of this trope can also be problematic. Say you want to build a new [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6ln%E2%80%93Frankfurt_high-speed_rail_line org/wiki/Köln–Frankfurt_high-speed_rail_line hyperfast train line]], to link - well I don't know maybe the fourth largest city and a major banking center of your country - of course you would want it to stop only very rarely or not at all between either terminus. But to get the whole thing built, you have to get the agreement of local politicians. Who of course want to have a stop in their district. Cue two stops twenty kilometers apart, which are - even in the [[https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnhof_Montabaur#Kritik German Wikipedia entry]] - said to be a result of political blackmail in so many words. [[note]] The line in question reads "Kritiker sehen in den im Abstand von rund 20 km liegenden Stationen Limburg und Montabaur das Ergebnis einer politischen Erpressung." - "Critics see the stations Limburg and Montabaur which are about 20 km from each other as the result of political blackmail"[[/note]]
18th May '17 1:26:18 PM infernape612
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-->-'''[[Series/BlueHeelers Tom Croydon,]]''' [[{{Novelization}} Tom's Story.]]

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8th Feb '17 3:07:50 PM Jhonny
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7th Feb '17 10:55:52 PM ZombieAladdin
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* A version of ''TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}}'' called ''Monopoly City'' has a game mechanic where building unpleasant things, such as sewage treatment plants, can reduce the desirability of nearby locations, with the in-game effect being a reduction in the price of their land and properties on them.
7th Feb '17 10:39:01 PM ZombieAladdin
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Also known as [[FunWithAcronyms NIMBY]]. There is apparently a more extreme version that does believe that everything noisy, smelly, polluting, dangerous or ugly should be built in the middle of nowhere, dubbed "[=BANANAs=]" - "Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone", which is a viable option... [[EasyLogistics in some video games]].

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Also known as [[FunWithAcronyms NIMBY]]. There is apparently a more extreme version that does believe that everything noisy, smelly, polluting, dangerous or ugly should be built in the middle of nowhere, nowhere and will oppose projects even if they're built nowhere near them, dubbed "[=BANANAs=]" - "Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone", which is a viable option... [[EasyLogistics in some video games]].
18th Oct '16 4:13:34 PM Jhonny
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An often overlooked aspect of [=NIMBYism=] is the fear of the unknown. Projects that are dissimilar to those already up and running in the same area have a harder time convincing people. Say for instance a new light rail line is planned. In Germany or France, most people are familiar with light rail lines and have either lived near one in the past or seen one on holidays. In the US, most people don't know the first thing about them and thus fears are naturally bigger and [[ScareCampaign easier to exploit through political ads]]. Often people cannot possibly comprehend their own or other people's erstwhile opposition once the project is completed, as the benefits become apparent and the downsides turn out to have been exaggerated.
18th Oct '16 4:08:26 PM Jhonny
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* Highways and freeways. They make things easier for business and tourists, but also bring in a lot of noise and pollution. Residential areas are kept away from these for just these two reasons, and mostly businesses and public service buildings are near them.

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* Highways and freeways. They make things easier for business and tourists, but also bring in a lot of noise and pollution. Residential areas are kept away from these for just these two reasons, and mostly businesses and public service buildings are near them. In the US, highways were built right through cities in the 1950s and the next two or three decades. Why was there no major uproar? Well, the [[UnfortunateImplications neighborhoods they went through]] were mostly inhabited by black and/or poor people who had no political lobby (and often couldn't even vote), something which is an all too common "solution" for [=NIMBYism=]. Only when highways started to be planned to tear down middle class and white neighborhoods did the "freeway revolts" get going in earnest, stopping many projects in their tracks.



* The inversion of this trope can also be problematic. Say you want to build a new [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6ln%E2%80%93Frankfurt_high-speed_rail_line hyperfast train line]], to link - well I don't know maybe the fourth largest city and a major banking center of your country - of course you would want it to stop only very rarely or not at all between either terminus. But to get the whole thing built, you have to get the agreement of local politicians. Who of course want to have a stop in their district. Cue two stops twenty kilometers apart, which are - even in the [[https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnhof_Montabaur#Kritik German Wikipedia entry]] - said to be a result of political blackmail in so many words. [[note]] The line in question reads "Kritiker sehen in den im Abstand von rund 20 km liegenden Stationen Limburg und Montabaur das Ergebnis einer politischen Erpressung." - Critics see the stations Limburg and Montabaur which are about 20 km from each other as the result of political blackmail"[[/note]]
* Big infrastructure projects are very prone to this and NIMBY s are one of the main reasons why many a project has spent decades in DevelopmentHell, even if it was approved in a ballot measure by supermajorities or basically all political parties agree it to be the best thing since sliced bread. [[TropesAreNotBad On the other hand]], NIMBY concerns have on occasion kept cities from making disastrous decisions and some politicians are even able to admit [[JerkassHasAPoint that the NIMBYs were right]], decades after the fact.

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* The inversion of this trope can also be problematic. Say you want to build a new [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6ln%E2%80%93Frankfurt_high-speed_rail_line hyperfast train line]], to link - well I don't know maybe the fourth largest city and a major banking center of your country - of course you would want it to stop only very rarely or not at all between either terminus. But to get the whole thing built, you have to get the agreement of local politicians. Who of course want to have a stop in their district. Cue two stops twenty kilometers apart, which are - even in the [[https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnhof_Montabaur#Kritik German Wikipedia entry]] - said to be a result of political blackmail in so many words. [[note]] The line in question reads "Kritiker sehen in den im Abstand von rund 20 km liegenden Stationen Limburg und Montabaur das Ergebnis einer politischen Erpressung." - Critics "Critics see the stations Limburg and Montabaur which are about 20 km from each other as the result of political blackmail"[[/note]]
* Big infrastructure projects are very prone to this and NIMBY s [=NIMBYs=] are one of the main reasons why many a project has spent decades in DevelopmentHell, even if it was approved in a ballot measure by supermajorities or basically all political parties agree it to be the best thing since sliced bread. [[TropesAreNotBad On the other hand]], NIMBY concerns have on occasion kept cities from making disastrous decisions and some politicians are even able to admit [[JerkassHasAPoint that the NIMBYs were right]], decades after the fact.
18th Oct '16 4:02:48 PM Jhonny
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* Train tracks. Nobody wants to be woken up by that train that goes through at 3:00 in the morning. Some people also have safety concerns about train tracks; if a freight train derails while transporting toxic or explosive materials, you don't want to be anywhere nearby. This was grimly illustrated by the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac-Mégantic_rail_disaster 2013 Lac-Mégantic rail disaster]].

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* Train tracks.tracks - especially if they are only or mostly used by freight trains. Nobody wants to be woken up by that train that goes through at 3:00 in the morning. Some people also have safety concerns about train tracks; if a freight train derails while transporting toxic or explosive materials, you don't want to be anywhere nearby. This was grimly illustrated by the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac-Mégantic_rail_disaster 2013 Lac-Mégantic rail disaster]].
18th Oct '16 4:01:38 PM Jhonny
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* Airports. They're obviously useful for travel, but few people want to live that close to one or have them open up a new runway/terminal near their house due to the noise and possible pollution.

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* Airports. They're obviously useful for travel, but few people want to live that close to one or have them open up a new runway/terminal near their house due to the noise and possible pollution. Furthermore, land close to the city center can be expensive. Those two things have combined in making airports farther and farther out more and more common. Munich's airport for instance was relocated in 1992 to be almost 30 km North of the city and similar things are planned for Berlin or London, though they are running into NIMBY problems at the new sites, naturally.
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