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23rd May '16 4:41:16 PM Floria
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[[AC: Fan Works]]
* Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes in ''Fanfic/AintNoGrave''. Steve is a polite idealist, Bucky is a [[SirSwearsALot foul-mouthed]] UnscrupulousHero. They're VitriolicBestBuds. (And [[SlashFic more]].)
12th May '16 8:19:02 AM Eievie
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->'''Demon Hunter:''' You often argue with Lyndon. Why?
->'''Kormac:''' Our motivations are complete contradictions of one another. I am driven by honor and the good of others. He is driven by greed and a calling that comes from below his waist.

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->'''Demon Hunter:''' You often argue with Lyndon. Why?
->'''Kormac:'''
Why?\\
'''Kormac:'''
Our motivations are complete contradictions of one another. I am driven by honor and the good of others. He is driven by greed and a calling that comes from below his waist.



This is the SpearCounterpart to LightFeminineAndDarkFeminine, which contrasts two aspects of femininity. Differs from SensitiveGuyAndManlyMan in that the Noble Male is still very much considered "manly" -- but is so in a more chivalrous fashion, rather than in an aggressive fashion.

The Noble Male can be the Betty in a male BettyAndVeronica love triangle. Also related is RedOniBlueOni, with the Noble Male being the Blue to the Roguish Male's Red. Female examples of this trope are likely to be BifauxnenAndLadette.

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This is the SpearCounterpart to LightFeminineAndDarkFeminine, which contrasts two aspects of femininity. Differs from SensitiveGuyAndManlyMan in that the Noble Male is still very much considered "manly" -- but "manly"--but is so in a more chivalrous fashion, rather than in an aggressive fashion.

The Noble Male can be the Betty in a male BettyAndVeronica love triangle. Also related is RedOniBlueOni, with the Noble Male being the Blue to the Roguish Male's Red. Female examples of this trope Red.

Contrast the polar opposites, BifauxnenAndLadette--two ''girls'' who
are likely to be BifauxnenAndLadette.
both masculine, but in different ways--and LightFeminineAndDarkFeminine--two ''girls'' who are both ''feminine'', but in different ways.



Interestingly, in modern Western culture, "feminine" usually implies Light Feminine -- while "manly" tends to imply Roguish Male. See FemaleAngelMaleDemon for more.

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Interestingly, in modern Western culture, "feminine" usually implies Light Feminine -- while Feminine--while "manly" tends to imply Roguish Male. See FemaleAngelMaleDemon for more.



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[[AC: Anime and & Manga]]
5th May '16 12:17:53 PM KingZeal
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* Comicbook/TheMightyThor is the noble man--fighting for honor, justice and valor, while Comicbook/TheIncredibleHercules is the rogue--fighting evil [[BloodKnight because it's fun]] and to impress women, and he's more than willing to play dirty.
4th May '16 2:37:41 PM Fourze99
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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[LightIsNotGood Don't go to the one on the left.]][[AntiHero And probably not the right either.]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[LightIsNotGood [[caption-width-right:350:[[LightIsNotGood Don't go to the one on the left.]][[AntiHero ]] [[AntiHero And probably not the right either.]]]]
4th May '16 2:37:21 PM Fourze99
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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[LightIsNotGood Don't go to the one on the left.]][[AntiHero And probably not the right either.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[LightIsNotGood Don't go to the one on the left.]][[AntiHero And probably not the right either.]]
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4th May '16 2:37:01 PM Fourze99
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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[LightIsNotGood The one on the left is the bad guy]]"]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[LightIsNotGood The Don't go to the one on the left is left.]][[AntiHero And probably not the bad guy]]"]]
right either.]]
21st Apr '16 7:34:30 AM Dravencour
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. As with a lot of archetypes in ''Berserk'', this gets subverted -- while Guts is very wild and reckless in his fighting, he doesn't really have much interest in any woman aside from Casca; and as for Griffith, he's willing to [[MoralEventHorizon do things to people]] in pursuit of his dream that a Noble Male wouldn't even ''consider''.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. As with a lot of archetypes in ''Berserk'', this gets subverted -- while Guts is very wild and reckless in his fighting, he doesn't really have much interest the Roguish Male in any woman aside from Casca; and as for most things, including not being interested in sex or romance (at least, until he meets Casca). Griffith, he's willing to on the other hand, shows what a Noble Male is capable of when [[FaceHeelTurn he goes bad]]. [[MoralEventHorizon do things to people]] in pursuit of his dream that a Noble Male wouldn't even ''consider''.And it is horrific]].
21st Apr '16 7:31:01 AM Dravencour
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. As with a lot of archetypes in ''Berserk'', this gets subverted -- Guts is a warrior first and foremost, and doesn't really have much interest in any woman aside from Casca; and as for Griffith, he's willing to [[MoralEventHorizon do things to people]] in pursuit of his dream that a Noble Male wouldn't even consider.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. As with a lot of archetypes in ''Berserk'', this gets subverted -- while Guts is a warrior first very wild and foremost, and reckless in his fighting, he doesn't really have much interest in any woman aside from Casca; and as for Griffith, he's willing to [[MoralEventHorizon do things to people]] in pursuit of his dream that a Noble Male wouldn't even consider.''consider''.
21st Apr '16 7:29:37 AM Dravencour
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. But in this series, it turns out that the Noble Male is the bad guy, willing to do truly horrible things to others in order to further his dream.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. But As with a lot of archetypes in ''Berserk'', this series, it turns out gets subverted -- Guts is a warrior first and foremost, and doesn't really have much interest in any woman aside from Casca; and as for Griffith, he's willing to [[MoralEventHorizon do things to people]] in pursuit of his dream that the a Noble Male is the bad guy, willing to do truly horrible things to others in order to further his dream.wouldn't even consider.
21st Apr '16 7:25:23 AM Dravencour
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. But in this series, it turns out that the Noble Male is the bad guy, willing to do truly horrible things to others in order to further his dream.
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