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21st Apr '16 7:34:30 AM Dravencour
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. As with a lot of archetypes in ''Berserk'', this gets subverted -- while Guts is very wild and reckless in his fighting, he doesn't really have much interest in any woman aside from Casca; and as for Griffith, he's willing to [[MoralEventHorizon do things to people]] in pursuit of his dream that a Noble Male wouldn't even ''consider''.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. As with a lot of archetypes in ''Berserk'', this gets subverted -- while Guts is very wild and reckless in his fighting, he doesn't really have much interest the Roguish Male in any woman aside from Casca; and as for most things, including not being interested in sex or romance (at least, until he meets Casca). Griffith, he's willing to on the other hand, shows what a Noble Male is capable of when [[FaceHeelTurn he goes bad]]. [[MoralEventHorizon do things to people]] in pursuit of his dream that a Noble Male wouldn't even ''consider''.And it is horrific]].
21st Apr '16 7:31:01 AM Dravencour
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. As with a lot of archetypes in ''Berserk'', this gets subverted -- Guts is a warrior first and foremost, and doesn't really have much interest in any woman aside from Casca; and as for Griffith, he's willing to [[MoralEventHorizon do things to people]] in pursuit of his dream that a Noble Male wouldn't even consider.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. As with a lot of archetypes in ''Berserk'', this gets subverted -- while Guts is a warrior first very wild and foremost, and reckless in his fighting, he doesn't really have much interest in any woman aside from Casca; and as for Griffith, he's willing to [[MoralEventHorizon do things to people]] in pursuit of his dream that a Noble Male wouldn't even consider.''consider''.
21st Apr '16 7:29:37 AM Dravencour
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. But in this series, it turns out that the Noble Male is the bad guy, willing to do truly horrible things to others in order to further his dream.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. But As with a lot of archetypes in ''Berserk'', this series, it turns out gets subverted -- Guts is a warrior first and foremost, and doesn't really have much interest in any woman aside from Casca; and as for Griffith, he's willing to [[MoralEventHorizon do things to people]] in pursuit of his dream that the a Noble Male is the bad guy, willing to do truly horrible things to others in order to further his dream.wouldn't even consider.
21st Apr '16 7:25:23 AM Dravencour
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Guts is an [[RatedMForManly ultra-manly]] and uncivilized ByronicHero and Griffith is a sophisticated and [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]] CulturedBadass. But in this series, it turns out that the Noble Male is the bad guy, willing to do truly horrible things to others in order to further his dream.
23rd Feb '16 12:27:58 PM Floria
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* ''Film/{{Deadpool 2016}}'': Colossus is a polite and chivalrous [[TheCape Cape]], while Deadpool is a HeroicComedicSociopath with a crude sense of humor.
17th Feb '16 2:46:12 PM RomanceGirl
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* "{{Series/BuffytheVampireSlayer}} & "{{Series/Angel}}":

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* "{{Series/BuffytheVampireSlayer}} " ''{{Series/Buffy the Vampire Slayer}}'' & "{{Series/Angel}}":" ''{{Series/Angel}}'' ":
17th Feb '16 2:43:18 PM RomanceGirl
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* "{{Series/BuffytheVampireSlayer}} & "{{Series/Angel}}":
** Angel is noble, selfless, calm, reserved, and generally chivalrous and gentlemanly. He goes to great lengths to help people and to achieve redemption for his past. While he has had other relationships, he's primarily bound to his love for Buffy (main love interest). Spike, in contrast, is roguish and nearly Angel's complete opposite: reckless, wild, emotional, and bursting with blunt snark. He IS though fairly devoted to Buffy as well despite his sharper edges.
26th Jan '16 6:11:56 PM demonfiren
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Two male characters portray different aspects of masculinity. The Noble Male is generally [[GentleManAndAScholar world-wise, gentlemanly, and sophisticated]] -- while the Roguish Male is generally [[HotBlooded reckless, wild]], and [[BloodKnight prone towards fighting]]. The former will generally [[LadyAndKnight focus on a single special lady and treat her with the highest respect]] while the latter tends more toward sleeping around with many women or [[CelibateHero is just not interested in sex and romance at all]]. If he is, romance with him is likely to be [[DestructiveRomance destructive]], [[CartwrightCurse deadly even]], if he is [[HeManWomanHater any good with women at all]].

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Two male characters portray different aspects of masculinity. The Noble Male is generally [[GentleManAndAScholar [[GentlemanAndAScholar world-wise, gentlemanly, and sophisticated]] -- while the Roguish Male is generally [[HotBlooded reckless, wild]], and [[BloodKnight prone towards fighting]]. The former will generally [[LadyAndKnight focus on a single special lady and treat her with the highest respect]] while the latter tends more toward sleeping around with many women or [[CelibateHero is just not interested in sex and romance at all]]. If he is, romance with him is likely to be [[DestructiveRomance destructive]], [[CartwrightCurse deadly even]], if he is [[HeManWomanHater any good with women at all]].
26th Jan '16 1:01:06 PM pinkdalek
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'':
** Cloud and Barret. Cloud's blond, pale, blue-eyed, [[{{Bishounen}} androgynously beautiful]] (but still unambiguously masculine), a former soldier, pragmatic, chivalrous and a sword-fighter, and while he can be flashy and superficial he's ultimately quite introverted. Barret's a HotBlooded ScaryBlackMan and terrorist with a vicious temper, little ability to restrain his emotions, and a huge gun mounted onto one of his arms. Out of the two of them, Cloud is the flirt, but Barret's more experienced (having been married) - in one scene he advises Cloud to ask either Aeris or Tifa on a date, something Cloud claims not to have interest in.
25th Jan '16 3:56:34 PM CyrenaPeleman
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* Flynn Scifo is the KnightInShiningArmor to the [[AnimalMotif lone wolf]] vigilante [[VideoGame/TalesofVesperia Yuri Lowell.]]
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