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30th Mar '17 6:07:20 PM Fireblood
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* In Literature/TheBible, John 19:12 has the Jewish leaders shouting to PontiusPilate "If you release this man (Jesus), you are no Friend of Caesar. Anyone who makes himself a king opposes Caesar." Being governor of Judea, Pilate held the title of Friend of Caesar (a status above ordinary subjects), and the Jewish leaders are implying that if Pilate releases Jesus, he's no "true" Friend of Caesar (which makes this trope OlderThanFeudalism).

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* In Literature/TheBible, John 19:12 has the Jewish leaders shouting to PontiusPilate Pontius Pilate "If you release this man (Jesus), you are no Friend of Caesar. Anyone who makes himself a king opposes Caesar." Being governor of Judea, Pilate held the title of Friend of Caesar (a status above ordinary subjects), and the Jewish leaders are implying that if Pilate releases Jesus, he's no "true" Friend of Caesar (which makes this trope OlderThanFeudalism).
30th Mar '17 6:01:50 PM Fireblood
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* The Christian film ''Film/ChristianMingle'', as Hugo and Jake from ''The Bible Reloaded'' pointed out, incurs on this with its protagonist, who is a young woman who starts using the eponymous dating website for Christians. Despite claiming to have been raised as one, been baptized, and believing in Jesus in general, all the other characters treat her as not being a ''true'' Christian because she doesn't go to church or read Literature/TheBible very often and botching a praying before dinner because she's not accustomed to it. It's even more baffling when the film shows that when creating a profile the dating website does have an option for saying how often one goes to church (including the option "Not at all").

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* The Christian film ''Film/ChristianMingle'', ''Christian Mingle'', as Hugo and Jake from ''The Bible Reloaded'' pointed out, incurs on this with its protagonist, who is a young woman who starts using the eponymous dating website for Christians. Despite claiming to have been raised as one, been baptized, and believing in Jesus in general, all the other characters treat her as not being a ''true'' Christian because she doesn't go to church or read Literature/TheBible very often and botching a praying prayer before dinner because she's not accustomed to it. It's even more baffling when the film shows that when creating a profile the dating website does have an option for saying how often one goes to church (including the option "Not at all").
12th Mar '17 6:27:37 AM Josef5678
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* The theme-song of "The Adventures of Ned Flanders", a short at the end of the ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Simpsons]]'' episode "The Front":

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* The theme-song of "The Adventures of Ned Flanders", a short at the end of the ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Simpsons]]'' ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "The Front":



''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Simpsons]]'' fandom and criticism really is really a perfect example if this trope. Many if not most will say that the Simpsons aren't as funny as they used to be, but when pressed when the last good season was some will say it was season twenty, some will say fifteen and some will say six.There are even critics who will argue that the Simpsons was only funny in season two, and Die-hard fans who will all but insist that the Simpsons were never funny to begin with.
11th Mar '17 7:26:20 PM 7disney7
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''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Simpsons]]'' fandom and criticism really is really a perfect example if this trope. Many if not most will say that the Simpsons aren't as funny as they used to be, but when pressed when the last good season was some will say it was season twenty, some will say fifteen and some will say six.There are even critics who will argue that the Simpsons was only funny in season two, and Die-hard fans who will all but insist that the Simpsons were never funny to begin with.
2nd Jan '17 9:32:12 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* The Halkans in the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek StarTrek]]'' [[Franchise/StarTrekNovelVerse Novel Verse]] are total pacifists, who insist that there is no violence of any kind in their hearts. As a result of this, anyone capable of violence cannot be truly Halkan, and will be regarded as a non-person.

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* The Halkans in the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek StarTrek]]'' ''Franchise/StarTrek'' [[Franchise/StarTrekNovelVerse Novel Verse]] are total pacifists, who insist that there is no violence of any kind in their hearts. As a result of this, anyone capable of violence cannot be truly Halkan, and will be regarded as a non-person.
19th Dec '16 1:22:07 PM Yukianesa
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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' writer and designer Monte Cook wasn't exactly discreet about [[CreatorsPet how much he liked Wizards]] and nor was he discreet about how much he hated Sorcerers, sabotaging the class' rules and abilities for years to keep Wizards top-tier. Another designer, Skip Williams, once went on record for openly saying that he despised the Sorcerer class and thought they were just discount Wizards. This despite the two classes playing in a very similar fashion.[[note]]For the unintiated, both were {{Squishy Wizard}} type casters with similar spell lists, Wizards drew their magic power from years of magical study and so had a wider variety of spells which they collected in ther adventures and jotted down in their spellbooks; Sorcerers got their magic from some natural quirk, maybe exposure to raw magic in an accident or a draconic ancestor going way back, and had fewer spells with more uses and gained new ones every level[[/note]].
24th Nov '16 9:25:00 AM LordGro
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* If the group being referred to has specific and/or objective guidelines/rules of behavior as a member of said group. E.G., "No clean cop would take a bribe" is not fallacious, because a clean cop, by definition, doesn't take bribes. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVQVaGtERE&t=31s Another Example.]]

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* If the group being referred to has specific and/or objective guidelines/rules of behavior as a member of said group. E.G., "No clean cop would take a bribe" is not fallacious, because a clean cop, by definition, doesn't take bribes. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVQVaGtERE&t=31s Another Example.]]
23rd Nov '16 8:11:09 PM skadooshbag
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* If the group being referred to has specific and/or objective guidelines/rules of behavior as a member of said group. E.G., "No clean cop would take a bribe" is not fallacious, because a clean cop, by definition, doesn't take bribes.

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* If the group being referred to has specific and/or objective guidelines/rules of behavior as a member of said group. E.G., "No clean cop would take a bribe" is not fallacious, because a clean cop, by definition, doesn't take bribes. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVQVaGtERE&t=31s Another Example.]]
21st Nov '16 3:21:27 PM TheCuza
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** This lies at the heart of Skyrim's civil war. The Stormcloaks know that no true son or daughter of Skyrim would follow an empire that bowed to an elven treaty outlawing the worship of its Nordic founder Talos, while loyalists argue that no true Nord would abandon their allies in their hour of greatest need or fight against the empire that Talos built.

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** This lies at the heart of Skyrim's civil war. The Stormcloaks know that no true son or daughter of Skyrim would follow an empire that bowed to an elven treaty outlawing the worship of its Nordic founder the Nords' patron deity Talos, while loyalists argue that no true Nord would abandon their allies in their hour of greatest need or fight against the empire that Talos built.himself ''founded'' before he ascended to godhood.



* In the ''{{VideoGame/Borderlands 2}}'' DLC ''Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep'', Lilith is incredibly reluctant to let [[TestosteronePoisoning Mr. Torgue]] join in on their game of ''[[MagicAmpersand Bunkers & Badasses]]'' because he is a muscular guy, so she believes he's not a true geek and only wants to play because being geeky is "trendy" now. It's invoked again moments later when Tina asks him "Three Geeky Questions". Torgue gets the first two right, but the third has an UnexpectedlyObscureAnswer, and he doesn't know. Therefore, according to Lilith, Torgue isn't ''really'' into nerd culture.

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* In the ''{{VideoGame/Borderlands 2}}'' DLC ''Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep'', Lilith is incredibly reluctant to let [[TestosteronePoisoning Mr. Torgue]] join in on their game of ''[[MagicAmpersand Bunkers & Badasses]]'' because [[GeekPhysiques he is a muscular guy, so she believes he's not a true geek geek]] and only wants to play because being geeky is "trendy" now. It's invoked again moments later when Tina asks him "Three Geeky Questions". Torgue gets the first two right, but the third has an UnexpectedlyObscureAnswer, and he doesn't know. Therefore, according to Lilith, Torgue isn't ''really'' into nerd culture.geek culture. After a great deal of InelegantBlubbering from Torgue, she reluctantly agrees to let him stay as a sidequest-giver. One wonders what her problem is, since she had no problem with Mordecai playing and he is very clearly not interested in the game or anything else geeky (of course, [[AtLeastIAdmitIt he doesn't try to pretend he is]], either).
9th Nov '16 10:02:07 PM Fireblood
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** Excessive use of this in the 2008 US Presidential campaign led to Jon Stewart producing a handy test: [[http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=188637&title=quiz-are-you-a-real-american "Are You A Real American?"]]

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** Excessive use of this in the 2008 US Presidential campaign led to Jon Stewart producing a handy test: [[http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=188637&title=quiz-are-you-a-real-american cc.com/video-clips/99l0t4/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-on-topic---in-the-news---the-real-america "Are You A Real American?"]]
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