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3rd Mar '16 9:44:23 AM Ccook1956
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* George Carlin related this on his album "FM/AM":
-->I got fired in Las Vegas from the Frontier Hotel for saying "shit." In a town where the big game is called "craps." There seems to be some sort of double standard. I'm sure there was some Texan standing outside the casino saying "Aw, shit, I crapped out!" They fly those guys in for free. They fired me. Shit!
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29th Feb '16 4:00:23 PM Burmy
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* In TheBible, John 19:12 has the Jewish leaders shouting to PontiusPilate "If you release this man (Jesus), you are no Friend of Caesar. Anyone who makes himself a king opposes Caesar." Being governor of Judea, Pilate held the title of Friend of Caesar (a status above ordinary subjects), and the Jewish leaders are implying that if Pilate releases Jesus, he's no "true" Friend of Caesar (which makes this trope OlderThanFeudalism).
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21st Feb '16 4:48:24 AM Hjortron18
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* In ''Film/WhenDarknessFalls'', Leyla tells this her father and her brothers after they [[spoiler:killed her sister Nina.]]
-->'''Leyla:''' You think that you are men? You are no men! A man doesn't do such things to his child! To his sister, to his own daughter!
9th Feb '16 8:33:35 PM Unknownlight
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* In ''Film/WhenDarknessFalls'', Leyla tells this her father and her brothers after they [[spoiler:killed her sister Nina.]]
-->'''Leyla:''' You think that you are men? You are no men! A man doesn't do such things to his child! To his sister, to his own daughter!
12th Jan '16 9:07:00 PM Fireblood
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* In ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'', much like the original movies, there's the ApeShallNotKillApe rule, which [[spoiler: Koba]] uses to taunt [[spoiler: Caesar]] at the end. [[spoiler: Caesar]] responded by declaring that he was no ape. [[spoiler: Given how Koba already violated that rule by trying to assassinate Caesar and murdering Ash, this trope holds some real weight for once.]]

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* In ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'', much like the original movies, there's the ApeShallNotKillApe ApeShallNeverKillApe rule, which [[spoiler: Koba]] uses to taunt [[spoiler: Caesar]] at the end. [[spoiler: Caesar]] responded by declaring that he was no ape. [[spoiler: Given how Koba already violated that rule by trying to assassinate Caesar and murdering Ash, this trope holds some real weight for once.]]



* In ''Film/MyCousinVinny'', Vinny cross-examines a witness who claims to have seen the defendants leave the scene of the crime while he made grits for breakfast. Vinny asks if the witness used "instant grits". The witness answers, "No self-respecting Southerner would use ''instant'' grits. I take pride in my grits."

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* In ''Film/MyCousinVinny'', Vinny cross-examines a witness who claims to have seen the defendants leave the scene of the crime while he made grits for breakfast. Vinny asks if the witness used "instant grits". The witness answers, answers "No self-respecting Southerner would use ''instant'' grits. I take pride in my grits."



** [[WideEyedIdealist Sansa]] maintains her belief in a world of [[KnightInShiningArmor Knights in Shining Armor]], despite repeatedly confronting evidence that many knights are just thugs with swords, by declaring that any knight who doesn't live up to her expectations and their vows to protect the innocent is obviously "no true knight." Her behaviour fits in with the "objective guidelines of behavior" exception since, as noted, to become a knight you have to make certain vows to protect the innocent, fight with honor, protect women etc. It might be more accurate to say that "true knights" are actually in the ''minority'' in the setting. Thus, she seems to be sticking to this even after acquiring JadeColoredGlasses by recognizing that true knights, if they exist at all, are very rare.

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** [[WideEyedIdealist Sansa]] maintains her belief in a world of [[KnightInShiningArmor Knights in Shining Armor]], despite repeatedly confronting evidence that many knights are just thugs with swords, by declaring that any knight who doesn't live up to her expectations and their vows to protect the innocent is obviously "no true knight." Her behaviour behavior fits in with the "objective guidelines of behavior" exception since, as noted, to become a knight you have to make certain vows to protect the innocent, fight with honor, protect women etc. It might be more accurate to say that "true knights" are actually in the ''minority'' in the setting. Thus, she seems to be sticking to this even after acquiring JadeColoredGlasses by recognizing that true knights, if they exist at all, are very rare.



* Matters of ethnicity are discussed in Creator/GeorgeMacDonaldFraser's ''Literature/{{McAuslan}}'' trilogy of short stories. AuthorAvatar Dand [=McNeill=] discusses the agonies the Gordon Highlanders went through when accepting a draft of soldiers from the Liverpool Scottish--sons and grandsons of Scotsmen who'd settled in Liverpool but who had the accent of Merseyside rather than Clydeside. One of whom was ''black'', played the bagpipes, and applied to join the Regimental Band. The question was, "can a black-skinned Scouser be said to qualify as Scottish?" closely followed by "What's it going to look like?"

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* Matters of ethnicity are discussed in Creator/GeorgeMacDonaldFraser's ''Literature/{{McAuslan}}'' trilogy of short stories. AuthorAvatar Dand [=McNeill=] discusses the agonies the Gordon Highlanders went through when accepting a draft of soldiers from the Liverpool Scottish--sons and grandsons of Scotsmen who'd settled in Liverpool but who had the accent of Merseyside rather than Clydeside. One of whom was ''black'', played the bagpipes, and applied to join the Regimental Band. The question was, "can was "Can a black-skinned Scouser be said to qualify as Scottish?" closely followed by "What's it going to look like?"
28th Dec '15 3:49:40 PM eroock
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-->--'''''{{Website/Cracked}}''''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/3-fan-communities-that-hate-their-own-members/?wa_user1=4&wa_user2=Weird+World&wa_user3=blog&wa_user4=feature_module "3 Fan Communities That Hate Their Own Members"]]

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-->--'''''{{Website/Cracked}}''''', -->-- '''''{{Website/Cracked}}''''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/3-fan-communities-that-hate-their-own-members/?wa_user1=4&wa_user2=Weird+World&wa_user3=blog&wa_user4=feature_module "3 Fan Communities That Hate Their Own Members"]]
24th Dec '15 12:08:37 PM sgamer82
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* In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', this lies at the heart of Skyrim's civil war. The Stormcloaks know that no true son or daughter of Skyrim would follow an empire that bowed to an elven treaty outlawing the worship of its Nordic founder Talos, while loyalists argue that no true Nord would abandon their allies in their hour of greatest need or fight against the empire that Talos built.

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lies at the heart of Skyrim's civil war. The Stormcloaks know that no true son or daughter of Skyrim would follow an empire that bowed to an elven treaty outlawing the worship of its Nordic founder Talos, while loyalists argue that no true Nord would abandon their allies in their hour of greatest need or fight against the empire that Talos built.



* In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', Sten believes in both things and people having an essential nature they are born with and you can't change. For example, if you are born to a merchant clan but become a blacksmith, you are never a blacksmith. You are, forever, a merchant trying to be a blacksmith. If your character is female, Sten comments that you seem to be both a woman and a soldier but this is impossible, you must be either a woman or a soldier. His conclusion is that you aren't a woman, even though you clearly look like one. If the PC is male he'll have this conversation with Liliana.

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In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', Sten believes in both things and people having an essential nature they are born with and you can't change. For example, if you are born to a merchant clan but become a blacksmith, you are never a blacksmith. You are, forever, a merchant trying to be a blacksmith. If your character is female, Sten comments that you seem to be both a woman and a soldier but this is impossible, you must be either a woman or a soldier. His conclusion is that you aren't a woman, even though you clearly look like one. If the PC is male he'll have this conversation with Liliana.
24th Dec '15 12:06:13 PM sgamer82
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* In their [=100th=] episode, the hosts of ''Podcast/WhoBackWhen'' note that the most common trend they see when someone sends them hate mail is to ask how they can call themselves ''Doctor Who'' fans yet go on to rate episodes as anything less than perfect. Their own view is that the fact that some episodes are genuinely bad does not detract from their love of the series. Indeed, they see ''Doctor Who'' as something to be loved, WartsAndAll.

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* In their [=100th=] episode, the hosts of ''Podcast/WhoBackWhen'' note that the most common trend they see when someone sends them hate mail is to ask how they can call themselves ''Doctor Who'' fans yet go on to rate episodes as anything less than perfect. Their own view is that the fact that some episodes are genuinely bad does not detract from their love of the series. Indeed, they see ''Doctor Who'' as something to be loved, WartsAndAll.
warts and all.
24th Dec '15 10:39:15 AM sgamer82
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* In their [=100th=] episode, the hosts of ''Podcast/WhoBackWhen'' note that the most common trend they see when someone sends them hate mail is to ask how they can call themselves ''Doctor Who'' fans yet go on to rate episodes as anything less than perfect. Their own view is that the fact that some episodes are genuinely bad does not detract from their love of the series. Indeed, they see loving ''Doctor Who'' as something to be loved, WartsAndAll.

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* In their [=100th=] episode, the hosts of ''Podcast/WhoBackWhen'' note that the most common trend they see when someone sends them hate mail is to ask how they can call themselves ''Doctor Who'' fans yet go on to rate episodes as anything less than perfect. Their own view is that the fact that some episodes are genuinely bad does not detract from their love of the series. Indeed, they see loving ''Doctor Who'' as something to be loved, WartsAndAll.
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