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28th Apr '16 2:44:59 AM Antwan
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* ''Film/{{Scarecrows}}'' starts off with one of the bank robbers parachuting off a hi-jacked plane with a sack of cash, leaving the others to have no choice but to land and find him.



* ''{{Redwall}}''
* ''{{Dragonlance}}''

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* ''{{Redwall}}''
''Literature/{{Redwall}}'' has quite a few backstabbing thieves. The most notable is Cheesethief for trying to make himself the leader of Cluny's horde. [[BackstabBackfire It does not go as planned.]]
* ''{{Dragonlance}}''''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}''



* In ''LordOfTheRings'', Sauron doesn't dare let his orcs know he's looking for the Ring of Power (some orc would likely steal it). So he can't tell his armies, "If you find a hobbit, kill it and send any rings it has back to me." Instead, he orders them to take hobbits alive, and transport them (with all their possessions, even weapons) back to him. Naturally, this lets several hobbits escape from orcs at key moments--especially because while the orcs may not know what's so important, they ''do'' know that the captives are very valuable, so they end up fighting over the hobbits anyway.

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* In ''LordOfTheRings'', ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'', Sauron doesn't dare let his orcs know he's looking for the Ring of Power (some orc would likely steal it). So he can't tell his armies, "If you find a hobbit, kill it and send any rings it has back to me." Instead, he orders them to take hobbits alive, and transport them (with all their possessions, even weapons) back to him. Naturally, this lets several hobbits escape from orcs at key moments--especially because while the orcs may not know what's so important, they ''do'' know that the captives are very valuable, so they end up fighting over the hobbits anyway.



* ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''. The Sith are ''rife'' with this problem throughout both the game itself and the backstory. Of particular note: the encouraged ChronicBackstabbingDisorder of the Sith leads to [[BigBad Malak]] attempting to kill his own master Revan, which deprives the Sith of their previous MagnificentBastard leader and starts the chain of events that finally leads to Sith defeat.

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* ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''.''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''. The Sith are ''rife'' with this problem throughout both the game itself and the backstory. Of particular note: the encouraged ChronicBackstabbingDisorder of the Sith leads to [[BigBad Malak]] attempting to kill his own master Revan, which deprives the Sith of their previous MagnificentBastard leader and starts the chain of events that finally leads to Sith defeat.



* ''QuestForGloryIV'' has a literal version of this. The Chief Thief has been turned into a giant cockroach monster, but you can earn his gratitude by finding the ArtifactOfDoom that did it, making him human again. At that point, you're free to kill him (try when he's a bug and he'll spit acid on you). You suffer absolutely no consequences - except for the fact that your Honor stat drops to 0 immediately. The narration even drops the trope name afterwards.

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* ''QuestForGloryIV'' ''VideoGame/QuestForGloryIV'' has a literal version of this. The Chief Thief has been turned into a giant cockroach monster, but you can earn his gratitude by finding the ArtifactOfDoom that did it, making him human again. At that point, you're free to kill him (try when he's a bug and he'll spit acid on you). You suffer absolutely no consequences - except for the fact that your Honor stat drops to 0 immediately. The narration even drops the trope name afterwards.
26th Mar '16 5:32:16 PM TMNTFanGirl
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You see, [[TrueCompanions for a team to really come together]], there has to be some level of mutual trust. People on the same side need to know their friends will be there to [[BigDamnHeroes bail them out in a tight spot]], and [[FaceHeelTurn won't sell them out to the enemy or abandon them for some selfish gain at a bad moment]]. They need to know that, when the going gets tough, or when some temptation arises, their allies will still be right by their side, through thick and thin. For the most part, such willingness to put the group before oneself is inherently at odds with the whole idea of being a Bad Guy.

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You see, [[TrueCompanions one of the keys for a team to really come together]], work well together]] is that there has to be at least some level of mutual trust.trust among them. People on the same side need to know their friends will be there to [[BigDamnHeroes bail them out in a tight spot]], and [[FaceHeelTurn won't sell them out to the enemy or abandon them for some selfish gain at a bad moment]]. They need to know that, when the going gets tough, or when some temptation arises, their allies will still be right by their side, through thick and thin. For the most part, such willingness to put the group before oneself is inherently at odds with the whole idea of being a Bad Guy.
15th Mar '16 9:14:48 PM AHI-3000
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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', the brutal bounty hunter Ezekiel Clench decides to call a truce with his ex-wife Josephine to bring in Jack. Amazingly, they are actually able to subdue the hero, but it turned out to be a very bad idea on Zeke's part; she double crosses him, and this gives Jack the opportunity to pull one on her too and get away. (In fact, seeing as Zeke is the one who had a restraining order against ''her'', it's likely that she did something like before.)

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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', the brutal bounty hunter Ezekiel Clench decides to call a truce with his ex-wife Josephine to bring in Jack. Amazingly, they are actually able to subdue the hero, but it turned out to be a very bad idea on Zeke's part; she double crosses double-crosses him, and this gives Jack the opportunity to pull one on her too and get away. (In fact, seeing as Zeke is the one who had a restraining order against ''her'', it's likely that she did something like that before.) )
* In ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown'', just about all of the villains will only ally with each other out of temporary convenience, and will often gladly take the nearest opportunity to betray whomever they were just working with. But this doesn't stop the bad guys from teaming up with the exact same untrustworthy partners [[ContractualGenreBlindness multiple times]], especially [[TooDumbToLive Jack Spicer]].
-->'''Omi:''' "So much [[{{Malaproper}} criss-crossing]][[note]][[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder double-crossing]][[/note]]. This just proves that [[LampshadeHanging there is no honor among thieves]]!"
19th Jan '16 8:04:34 PM marcoasalazarm
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* ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' has Will Turner comment "No heroes amongst thieves, eh?" when Jack tells him part of the Pirates Code; "Any man who falls behind is left behind". Of course, all the good pirates ignore this for the rest of the series.

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* ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' has Will Turner comment "No heroes amongst thieves, eh?" when Jack tells him part of the Pirates Code; "Any man who falls behind is left behind". Of course, all the good pirates ignore this for the rest of the series.series... except for one big stab or two courtesy of the GambitPileup.
19th Nov '15 6:01:30 PM thatother1dude
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->'''Wolverine:''' You sold out your kind for a little cash?
->'''Gambit:''' ''Absolutment non!'' I sold out my kind for a '''[[NoExceptYes large]]''' amount of cash. There is a difference.

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->'''Wolverine:''' You sold out your kind for a little cash?
->'''Gambit:'''
cash?\\
'''Gambit:'''
''Absolutment non!'' I sold out my kind for a '''[[NoExceptYes large]]''' '''large''' amount of cash. There is a difference.
9th Nov '15 2:13:14 PM DavidDelony
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* Pirated software is often a vector for malware. Who are you going to complain to if you get a virus from something you torrented?
21st Oct '15 12:33:06 PM FF32
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* In ''[[TheCanterburyTales The Pardoner's Tale]]'', the three {{Villain Protagonist}}s end up killing each other out of greed.

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* In ''[[TheCanterburyTales ''[[Literature/TheCanterburyTales The Pardoner's Tale]]'', the three {{Villain Protagonist}}s end up killing each other out of greed.
18th Sep '15 3:37:33 PM nombretomado
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'': Super Friends: The Legendary Super Powers Show had one episode titled "No Honor Among Thieves". In that episode, ComicBook/LexLuthor created a device to steal powers from the heroes and asked for {{Darkseid}}'s help. Luthor tried to doublecross Darkseid but Darkseid was CrazyPrepared enough to cover Luthor in kryptonite dust since, with {{Superman}}'s powers, comes [[KryptoniteFactor his weakness]]. Luthor still managed to use El Dorado's powers to send the powerless heroes the means to escape death. He then got a TitleDrop.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'': Super Friends: The Legendary Super Powers Show had one episode titled "No Honor Among Thieves". In that episode, ComicBook/LexLuthor created a device to steal powers from the heroes and asked for {{Darkseid}}'s {{ComicBook/Darkseid}}'s help. Luthor tried to doublecross Darkseid but Darkseid was CrazyPrepared enough to cover Luthor in kryptonite dust since, with {{Superman}}'s powers, comes [[KryptoniteFactor his weakness]]. Luthor still managed to use El Dorado's powers to send the powerless heroes the means to escape death. He then got a TitleDrop.
21st Jul '15 6:38:42 AM ZachValkyrie
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->'''Gambit:''' ''Absolutment non!'' I sold out my kind for a '''[[NoExceptYes large]]''' amount of cas. There is a difference.

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->'''Gambit:''' ''Absolutment non!'' I sold out my kind for a '''[[NoExceptYes large]]''' amount of cas.cash. There is a difference.
21st Jul '15 6:36:04 AM ZachValkyrie
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->'''Gambit:''' ''Absolutment non!'' I sold out my kind for a '''large''' amount of cash. There is a difference.

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->'''Gambit:''' ''Absolutment non!'' I sold out my kind for a '''large''' '''[[NoExceptYes large]]''' amount of cash.cas. There is a difference.
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