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29th Aug '17 10:58:50 PM Gamermaster
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** Downplayed with regards to Vivio. While being fully aware of her mother's reputation as one of the best mages in the TSAB, Vivio always introduces Nanoha as a kind and cheerful government worker who occasionally teaches her magic. This causes people who do not know Nanoha personally (like Einhart and Irene) to picture Nanoha as a stereotypical housewife who plays lighthearted games with Vivio.
14th Jul '17 9:45:21 AM thatother1dude
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SisterTrope to NoBadassToHisValet. See also NiceToTheWaiter. Compare SecretKeeper and SomebodyDoesntLoveRaymond.

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SisterTrope to NoBadassToHisValet. See also NiceToTheWaiter. Compare SecretKeeper and SomebodyDoesntLoveRaymond.



* Protagonists in [[Theatre/TheTamingOfTheShrew many]] [[Theatre/TheComedyOfErrors of]] [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespeare's]] comedies do not treat their servants well. This is played for laughs.
** This comes straight out of Commedia del'Arte, where abuse of those of different classes was standard. Note, too, that it cuts ''both ways'' in that tradition; the upper class characters heaped public, physical, verbal abuse on the lower, while the lower class replied with secretive practical jokes, snarky replies, ''sotto voce'' backtalk, and conspiring to manipulate events to their own favour.
** A more serious version is found in ''Theatre/{{Othello}}'', where Emilia is the only person who doesn't think the world of her husband [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Iago.]]

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* Protagonists in [[Theatre/TheTamingOfTheShrew many]] [[Theatre/TheComedyOfErrors of]] [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespeare's]] comedies do not treat their servants well. This is played for laughs.
** This comes straight out of Commedia del'Arte, where abuse of those of different classes was standard. Note, too, that it cuts ''both ways'' in that tradition; the upper class characters heaped public, physical, verbal abuse on the lower, while the lower class replied with secretive practical jokes, snarky replies, ''sotto voce'' backtalk, and conspiring to manipulate events to their own favour.
** A more serious version is found in
In ''Theatre/{{Othello}}'', where Emilia is the only person who doesn't think the world of her husband [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Iago.]]



* [[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Roy Greenhilt]] is [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0329.html more than]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0340.html a bit of a]] [[{{Jerkass}} dismissive ass]] when dealing with [=NPCs=] who are serving only a "trivial" purpose to him. [[GoodIsNotNice Not that he doesn't have that streak anyway.]]
30th Jun '17 8:17:44 AM Nyame
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* ''Film/IronMan'': Tony Stark is a larger-than-life celebrity to just about everyone...except Pepper Potts.
** The same goes for his best friend James "Rhodey" Rhodes, who, much like Pepper, never hesitates to call him out whenever he's making unwise decisions or just simply being a {{Jerkass}}.

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* Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse
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''Film/IronMan'': Tony Stark is a larger-than-life celebrity to just about everyone...except Pepper Potts.
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Potts. The same goes for his best friend James "Rhodey" Rhodes, who, much like Pepper, never hesitates to call him out whenever he's making unwise decisions or just simply being a {{Jerkass}}.{{Jerkass}}.
** ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'': While everyone has come to admire Steve Rogers as Captain America, the pinnacle of human perfection, his childhood best friend Bucky Barnes still sees as him as that skinny kid from Brooklyn whose ass he always had to save from a fight. The same can be said for Agent Peggy Carter, who was falling for Steve Rogers long before there was super serum running through his veins.
28th Jun '17 5:50:13 PM LBHills
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* Alfred Pennyworth has a relationship similar to this with Franchise/{{Batman}}; while he remains unfailingly loyal through thick and thin, he's also raised Bruce as his son since his parents died and had also taught him several of the tricks he would later come to use as Batman, with the result that he never fails to vocally criticize Batman to his face when he thinks it's needed and is practically the only person Batman can't intimidate with his usual tricks. Dick Grayson as well, for similar reasons.

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* Alfred Pennyworth has a relationship similar to this with Franchise/{{Batman}}; while he remains unfailingly loyal through thick and thin, he's also raised Bruce acted as his son Bruce's surrogate father since his parents died and had also even taught him several of the tricks he would later come to use as Batman, with the result that he never fails to vocally criticize Batman to his face when he thinks it's needed and is practically the only person Batman can't intimidate with his usual tricks. tricks.
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Dick Grayson Grayson, the first Robin, went from Batman's apprentice to striking out on his own. While the two retain implicit trust in each other, he is not blind to Batman's failings. He'll offer support or condemnation to Bruce, as well, for similar reasons.he deems appropriate.
28th Jun '17 5:45:47 PM LBHills
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But there is always at least one person (and sometimes a small group of people) for whom the character's fame and heroic reputation mean nothing. It might be that the person has known the character from childhood, and thus remembers when they were an annoying nose-picker. It could also be that the character wronged them somehow, and the person's resentment makes them immune to the fame. Whatever the case, they refuse to be sucked in to the hype surrounding the character. They might also know a secret about the character or their accomplishments that nobody else does. Quite often, this person will be one of the character's friends. Sometimes, they will be one of the few people the character feels he can "be himself" with, because the character knows that the person is reacting to the person and not the hero.

SisterTrope to NoBadassToHisValet. See also NiceToTheWaiter. Compare SomebodyDoesntLoveRaymond.

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But there is always at least one person (and sometimes a small group of people) for whom the character's fame and heroic reputation mean nothing. It might be that the person has known the character from childhood, and thus remembers when they were an annoying nose-picker. It could also be that the character wronged them somehow, and the person's resentment makes them immune to the fame. Whatever the case, they refuse to be sucked in to the hype surrounding the character. They might also know a secret about the character or their accomplishments that nobody else does. Quite often, this person will be one of the character's friends. Sometimes, they will be one of the few people the character hero feels he can "be himself" with, because the character knows that the person his confidante is reacting to the person and not the hero.

SisterTrope to NoBadassToHisValet. See also NiceToTheWaiter. Compare SecretKeeper and SomebodyDoesntLoveRaymond.
16th Jun '17 11:15:56 PM morane
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* Officers and their sergeants and aides. Especially when the question is about an EnsignNewbie and SergeantRock.
10th Jun '17 4:34:58 PM jahman
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** In ''[[LightNovel/NarutoHiden Shikamaru Hiden]]'', Shikamaru is completely unimpressed with the legendary status [[IdiotHero Naruto]], [[ItsAllAboutMe Sasuke]] and [[BunnyEarsLawyer Kakashi]] have attained after [[spoiler:the War ended]]. After all, he knows them and all their flaws, so he's really not in any kind of awe.
** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of [[WartsAndAll his faults]], and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' is one of the reasons why he marries ''[[OneTrueLove her]]'' in the end]].

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** In ''[[LightNovel/NarutoHiden Shikamaru Hiden]]'', Shikamaru is completely unimpressed with the legendary status [[IdiotHero Naruto]], [[ItsAllAboutMe Sasuke]] and [[BunnyEarsLawyer Kakashi]] have attained after [[spoiler:the War ended]]. After all, he knows them and all their flaws, so he's really not in any kind of awe.
awe, but doesn't stop him respecting Naruto in particular more than some of his other friends.
** Most of Naruto's friends refuse to treat him any different even after he became a hero to Konoha and (eventually) the world at large, aside from some good-natured ribbing, more or less.
** Hinata is very much in the same vein.vein, yet probably in sees Naruto in the best possible light of his loved ones. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of [[WartsAndAll his faults]], and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' is one of the reasons why he marries ''[[OneTrueLove her]]'' in the end]].
8th Jun '17 11:55:41 AM mouschilight
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** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of his faults, and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' is one of the reasons why he ultimately marries ''her'' in the end]].

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** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of [[WartsAndAll his faults, faults]], and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' is one of the reasons why he ultimately marries ''her'' ''[[OneTrueLove her]]'' in the end]].
5th Jun '17 9:40:09 AM Piterpicher
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* The {{icarly}} trio, despite being essentially much minor celebrities, famous all over the world for their webshow, are for the most part just treated like ordinary kids at school or in their hometown.

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* The {{icarly}} {{Series/icarly}} trio, despite being essentially much minor celebrities, famous all over the world for their webshow, are for the most part just treated like ordinary kids at school or in their hometown.
19th May '17 12:26:47 PM mouschilight
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** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of his faults, and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''[[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie The Last]]'' is one of the reasons why he ultimately ends up with her]].

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** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of his faults, and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''[[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie The Last]]'' ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' is one of the reasons why he ultimately ends up with her]].marries ''her'' in the end]].
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