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16th Jun '17 11:15:56 PM morane
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* Officers and their sergeants and aides. Especially when the question is about an EnsignNewbie and SergeantRock.
10th Jun '17 4:34:58 PM jahman
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** In ''[[LightNovel/NarutoHiden Shikamaru Hiden]]'', Shikamaru is completely unimpressed with the legendary status [[IdiotHero Naruto]], [[ItsAllAboutMe Sasuke]] and [[BunnyEarsLawyer Kakashi]] have attained after [[spoiler:the War ended]]. After all, he knows them and all their flaws, so he's really not in any kind of awe.
** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of [[WartsAndAll his faults]], and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' is one of the reasons why he marries ''[[OneTrueLove her]]'' in the end]].

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** In ''[[LightNovel/NarutoHiden Shikamaru Hiden]]'', Shikamaru is completely unimpressed with the legendary status [[IdiotHero Naruto]], [[ItsAllAboutMe Sasuke]] and [[BunnyEarsLawyer Kakashi]] have attained after [[spoiler:the War ended]]. After all, he knows them and all their flaws, so he's really not in any kind of awe.
awe, but doesn't stop him respecting Naruto in particular more than some of his other friends.
** Most of Naruto's friends refuse to treat him any different even after he became a hero to Konoha and (eventually) the world at large, aside from some good-natured ribbing, more or less.
** Hinata is very much in the same vein.vein, yet probably in sees Naruto in the best possible light of his loved ones. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of [[WartsAndAll his faults]], and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' is one of the reasons why he marries ''[[OneTrueLove her]]'' in the end]].
8th Jun '17 11:55:41 AM mouschilight
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** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of his faults, and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' is one of the reasons why he ultimately marries ''her'' in the end]].

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** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of [[WartsAndAll his faults, faults]], and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' is one of the reasons why he ultimately marries ''her'' ''[[OneTrueLove her]]'' in the end]].
5th Jun '17 9:40:09 AM Piterpicher
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* The {{icarly}} trio, despite being essentially much minor celebrities, famous all over the world for their webshow, are for the most part just treated like ordinary kids at school or in their hometown.

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* The {{icarly}} {{Series/icarly}} trio, despite being essentially much minor celebrities, famous all over the world for their webshow, are for the most part just treated like ordinary kids at school or in their hometown.
19th May '17 12:26:47 PM mouschilight
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** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of his faults, and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''[[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie The Last]]'' is one of the reasons why he ultimately ends up with her]].

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** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of his faults, and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''[[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie The Last]]'' ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' is one of the reasons why he ultimately ends up with her]].marries ''her'' in the end]].
26th Apr '17 12:20:50 PM Kafkesque
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* Creator/SandyMitchell's Literature/CiaphasCain is a Fake Ultimate Hero and among the most successful. Inquisitor Amberley Vail, his long-term associate and (apparently) lover, is perhaps the only person who can see past his sterling reputation. However, she herself thinks that he is too hard on himself, and possesses many heroic attributes. On the other hand, Cain's own adjutant/bodyguard Jurgen thinks the world of him. He deliberately [[AFatherToHisMen cultivates a good appearance among the soldiers under him]], partially because it makes them more effective, partially to avoid UnfriendlyFire. On the one hand, he tries to play up this reputation whenever possible, but on the other hand he earned it by genuinely caring about them ([[AlternateCharacterInterpretation for whatever reason]]).

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* Creator/SandyMitchell's Literature/CiaphasCain is a Fake Ultimate Hero FakeUltimateHero and among the most successful. Inquisitor Amberley Vail, his long-term associate and (apparently) lover, is perhaps the only person who can see past his sterling reputation. However, she herself thinks that he is too hard on himself, and possesses many heroic attributes. On the other hand, Cain's own adjutant/bodyguard Jurgen thinks the world of him. He deliberately [[AFatherToHisMen cultivates a good appearance among the soldiers under him]], partially because it makes them more effective, partially to avoid UnfriendlyFire. On the one hand, he tries to play up this reputation whenever possible, but on the other hand he earned it by genuinely caring about them ([[AlternateCharacterInterpretation for whatever reason]]).
16th Apr '17 12:52:28 PM mouschilight
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** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of his faults, and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this is one of the reasons why he ultimately ends up with her]].

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** Hinata is very much in the same vein. While she greatly admires and loves Naruto, she is fully aware of his faults, and she is the ''only'' one Naruto ever opened up to about his insecurities and his despair. She has never loved the hero the rest of the world came to see; she only ever loved the Naruto who never gave up even when it seemed the entire world was against him, and stayed true to the good in himself despite everyone else thinking the worst of him. [[spoiler:Naruto realizing this in ''[[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie The Last]]'' is one of the reasons why he ultimately ends up with her]].
12th Apr '17 6:54:24 AM MadSpy
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* River Song, [[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor's]]... [[HaveWeMetYet whatever]] constantly undermines his brilliance, at one point flying the TARDIS flawlessly (when the Doctor seems to think six pilots are required for that) and informing him its characteristic landing sound was due to his leaving the brakes on. She does mention him teaching her at one point which might suggest that he's simply less practical than her, though she could have been just messing with him.[[note]]However, we later find out that ''he'' didn't teach her a thing - she was taught ''by the TARDIS herself''; furthermore, the TARDIS is the sceond mother of River Song (River was conceived by Amy and Rory while on the TARDIS so she wasn't born wholly human.)[[/note]] Over time it's revealed the trope is more downplayed than we're lead to believe, she does think he's an amazing hero, but is reluctant to let him know (and get a big head).

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* River Song, [[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor's]]... [[HaveWeMetYet whatever]] constantly undermines his brilliance, at one point flying the TARDIS flawlessly (when the Doctor seems to think six pilots are required for that) and informing him its characteristic landing sound was due to his leaving the brakes on. She does mention him teaching her at one point which might suggest that he's simply less practical than her, though she could have been just messing with him.[[note]]However, we later find out that ''he'' didn't teach her a thing - she was taught ''by the TARDIS herself''; furthermore, the TARDIS is the sceond second mother of River Song (River was conceived by Amy and Rory while on the TARDIS so she wasn't born wholly human.)[[/note]] Over time it's revealed the trope is more downplayed than we're lead to believe, she does think he's an amazing hero, but is reluctant to let him know (and get a big head).
12th Apr '17 6:52:53 AM MadSpy
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** Harry's father, James Potter, is often lauded to Harry by many as a paragon of the virtues that Gryffindor stands for and an overall excellent young man, with the exception of Severus Snape, albeit that is mainly because both men mutually despised one another, albeit for different reasons (Snape's being he was [[GreenEyedMonster envious]][[TheResenter of James' life compared to his.]]) Eventually, Harry gets a look into Snape's past, and sees James using magic (later revealed to be one of Snape's invented spells) to mess with Snape and Harry is surprised and shocked to see Lily's vehement reaction (though this is because she was Snape's friend, though ironically the memory was that where Lily reached her limit with Snape). Lupin and Sirius later reassure Harry that they were just immature at that age and that he shouldn't let it get to him.
*** Snape's attitude and comment also hint that it was a matter of pride; all of his accusations toward James' bigheadesness could easily be said about Snape himself.

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** Harry's father, James Potter, is often lauded to Harry by many as a paragon of the virtues that Gryffindor stands for and an overall excellent young man, with the exception of Severus Snape, albeit that is mainly because both men mutually despised one another, albeit for different reasons (Snape's being that he was [[GreenEyedMonster envious]][[TheResenter envious]] [[TheResenter of James' life compared to his.]]) Eventually, Harry gets a look into Snape's past, and sees James using magic (later revealed to be one of Snape's invented spells) to mess with Snape and Harry is surprised and shocked to see Lily's vehement reaction (though this is because (because she was Snape's friend, though ironically the memory was that where Lily reached her limit with Snape). Lupin and Sirius later reassure Harry that they were just immature at that age and that he shouldn't let it get to him.
*** Snape's attitude and comment also hint that it was a matter of pride; all of his accusations toward James' bigheadesness bigheadedness could easily be said about Snape himself.
12th Apr '17 6:48:39 AM MadSpy
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* ''Film/Gigi'' Honore Lachaille is a charming and wealthy old roue respected (if not liked) by all of Parisan high society, and despite his nephew Gaston's distaste for everything Honore enjoys, he too respects and seeks his advice about a cheating mistress. Miguel, Honore's valet, is only too happy to remind Honore of the many, many times that Honore has been cheated on by his various mistresses.

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* ''Film/Gigi'' In {{Film/Gigi}}, Honore Lachaille is a charming and wealthy old roue roué respected (if not liked) by all of Parisan high society, and despite his nephew Gaston's distaste for everything Honore enjoys, he too respects and seeks his advice about a cheating mistress. Miguel, Honore's valet, is only too happy to remind Honore of the many, many times that Honore has been cheated on by his various mistresses.
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