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13th Jul '16 7:35:35 AM Quanyails
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** One episode of DS9 also featured (Jadzia) Dax taking the heat for a murder of a man who was a great hero to his people, including his son. The man's wife, however, remembered him as a bully and a lousy husband, [[spoiler: which was why she was in bed with (Curzon) Dax at the time of the murder.]]

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** One episode of DS9 ''Deep Space Nine'' also featured (Jadzia) Dax taking the heat for a murder of a man who was a great hero to his people, including his son. The man's wife, however, remembered him as a bully and a lousy husband, [[spoiler: which was why she was in bed with (Curzon) Dax at the time of the murder.]]



* The housecarls in VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim (notably, Lydia) are just as likely to snark or otherwise harmlessly disrespect the Dragonborn regardless of how famous, influential, or badass he/she has become.

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* The housecarls in VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' (notably, Lydia) are just as likely to snark or otherwise harmlessly disrespect the Dragonborn regardless of how famous, influential, or badass he/she has become.
13th Jul '16 7:34:29 AM Quanyails
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* Richard/Kogoro from Manga/DetectiveConan is a revered detective; but that's because most people don't know he actually sucks at it compared with Conan and Conan solves almost every mystery that Richard/Kogoro is credited with solving.

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* Richard/Kogoro from Manga/DetectiveConan ''Manga/DetectiveConan'' is a revered detective; but that's because most people don't know he actually sucks at it compared with Conan and Conan solves almost every mystery that Richard/Kogoro is credited with solving.
12th Jul '16 12:47:31 AM Adept
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* Even the great detective Poirot is scared of the dentist, and when visiting Dr. Morley in ''[[Literature/HerculePoirot One, Two, Buckle My Shoe]]'', he reflected how decidedly unimpressive he is, and how the dentist would only see Poirot as just another patient, and not the famous detective he fancies himself as.

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* Even the great detective Poirot is scared of the dentist, and when visiting Dr. Morley in ''[[Literature/HerculePoirot One, Two, Buckle My Shoe]]'', ''Literature/OneTwoBuckleMyShoe'', he reflected how decidedly unimpressive he is, and how the dentist would only see Poirot as just another patient, and not the famous detective he fancies himself as.
11th Jul '16 6:13:45 PM Adept
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* Even the great detective Poirot is scared of the dentist, and when visiting Dr. Morley in ''[[Literature/HerculePoirot One, Two, Buckle My Shoe]]'', he reflected how decidedly unimpressive he is, and how the dentist would only see Poirot as just another patient, and not the famous detective he fancies himself as.
8th Jul '16 1:40:59 AM Morgenthaler
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** Albus Dumbledore is TheObiWan and The Greatest Wizard Ever to practically every non-evil character in the series, except for his own brother Aberforth Dumbledore. Aberforth knows all about Albus's DarkAndTroubledPast in which he [[MyGreatestFailure didn't exactly come off as a hero]], but these events are largely forgotten due to Albus's in-universe HistoricalHeroUpgrade. Albus, for the record, is well-aware of this and holds his brother in very deep, personal esteem, even though Aberforth is seen by the wizard community as an oddball who doesn't appreciate his ingenious brother.

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** Albus Dumbledore is TheObiWan and The Greatest Wizard Ever to practically every non-evil character in the series, except for his own brother Aberforth Dumbledore. Aberforth knows all about Albus's DarkAndTroubledPast in which he [[MyGreatestFailure didn't exactly come off as a hero]], but these events are largely forgotten due to Albus's in-universe HistoricalHeroUpgrade. Albus, for the record, is well-aware of this and holds his brother in very deep, personal esteem, even though Aberforth is seen by the wizard community as an oddball who doesn't appreciate his ingenious brother.
17th May '16 10:38:06 PM DanglingModifier
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** Mr. Satan maybe Earth's hero to all the {{Muggle}}s, but the Z-Figthers knows he is a FakeUltimateHero and treats him as such. After he becomes part of the group he does gets more respect especially from Goku and his son-in-law Gohan, but Videl isn't afraid to stand up to him even before she learned that he didn't defeat Cell.

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** Mr. Satan maybe Earth's hero to all the {{Muggle}}s, but the Z-Figthers Z-Fighters knows he is a FakeUltimateHero and treats him as such. After he becomes part of the group he does gets more respect especially from Goku and his son-in-law Gohan, but Videl isn't afraid to stand up to him even before she learned that he didn't defeat Cell.
13th May '16 11:05:07 AM DVB
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** Harry's father, James Potter, is often lauded to Harry by many as a paragon of the virtues that Gryffindor stands for, with the exception of Severus Snape, albeit that is mainly because both men mutually despised one another, albeit fr different reasons (Snape's being [[GreenEyedMonster envious]][[TheResenter of James' life compared to his.]] Eventually, Harry gets a look into Snape's past, and sees James using magic (later revealed to be one of Snape's invented spells) to mess with Snape and Harry is surprised and shocked to see Lily's vehement reaction (though this is because she was Snape's friend, albeit the memory was also that where Lily reached her limit with Snape). Lupin and Sirius later reassure Harry that they were just immature at that age and that he shouldn't let it get to him.
*** Snape's attitude and comment also hint that it was a matter of pride; all of his accusations toward James' bigheadesness could easily be said the same of Snape.

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** Harry's father, James Potter, is often lauded to Harry by many as a paragon of the virtues that Gryffindor stands for, for and an overall excellent young man, with the exception of Severus Snape, albeit that is mainly because both men mutually despised one another, albeit fr for different reasons (Snape's being he was [[GreenEyedMonster envious]][[TheResenter of James' life compared to his.]] ]]) Eventually, Harry gets a look into Snape's past, and sees James using magic (later revealed to be one of Snape's invented spells) to mess with Snape and Harry is surprised and shocked to see Lily's vehement reaction (though this is because she was Snape's friend, albeit though ironically the memory was also that where Lily reached her limit with Snape). Lupin and Sirius later reassure Harry that they were just immature at that age and that he shouldn't let it get to him.
*** Snape's attitude and comment also hint that it was a matter of pride; all of his accusations toward James' bigheadesness could easily be said the same of Snape. about Snape himself.
15th Apr '16 3:17:13 PM DVB
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* River Song, [[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor's]]... [[HaveWeMetYet whatever]] constantly undermines his brilliance, at one point flying the TARDIS flawlessly (when the Doctor seems to think six pilots are required for that) and informing him its characteristic landing sound was due to his leaving the brakes on. She does mention him teaching her at one point which might suggest that he's simply less practical than her.[[note]]However, we later find out that ''he'' didn't teach her a thing - she was taught ''by the TARDIS herself''. No wonder she's so good![[/note]] Over time it's revealed the trope is more downplayed than we're lead to believe, she does think he's an amazing hero, but is reluctant to let him know (and get a big head).

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* River Song, [[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor's]]... [[HaveWeMetYet whatever]] constantly undermines his brilliance, at one point flying the TARDIS flawlessly (when the Doctor seems to think six pilots are required for that) and informing him its characteristic landing sound was due to his leaving the brakes on. She does mention him teaching her at one point which might suggest that he's simply less practical than her.her, though she could have been just messing with him.[[note]]However, we later find out that ''he'' didn't teach her a thing - she was taught ''by the TARDIS herself''. No wonder she's herself''; furthermore, the TARDIS is the sceond mother of River Song (River was conceived by Amy and Rory while on the TARDIS so good![[/note]] she wasn't born wholly human.)[[/note]] Over time it's revealed the trope is more downplayed than we're lead to believe, she does think he's an amazing hero, but is reluctant to let him know (and get a big head).



* WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog: While Captain Hammer is seen as a major hero (perhaps even a country-wide one), the [[AntiVillain Anti-Villain]] [[VillainProtagonist Protagonist,]] Doctor Horrible, sees him as a total dick. He's probably right.

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* WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog: While Captain Hammer is seen as a major hero (perhaps even a country-wide one), the [[AntiVillain Anti-Villain]] [[VillainProtagonist Protagonist,]] Doctor Horrible, sees him as a total dick. He's probably right.The Doctor's view is more accurate than you would expect.
15th Apr '16 3:12:42 PM DVB
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** Harry's father, James Potter, is often lauded to Harry by many as a paragon of the virtues that Gryffindor stands for, with the exception of Severus Snape, who has an intense loathing of (something James reciprocated to the same extent). Eventually, Harry gets a look into Snape's past, and sees James using magic (later revealed to be one of Snape's invented spells) to mess with Snape and Harry is surprised and shocked to see Lily's vehement reaction (this is because she was still Snape's friend though their friendship fell apart soon after). Lupin and Sirius later reassure Harry that they were just immature at that age and that he shouldn't let it get to him.

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** Harry's father, James Potter, is often lauded to Harry by many as a paragon of the virtues that Gryffindor stands for, with the exception of Severus Snape, who has an intense loathing albeit that is mainly because both men mutually despised one another, albeit fr different reasons (Snape's being [[GreenEyedMonster envious]][[TheResenter of (something James reciprocated James' life compared to the same extent). his.]] Eventually, Harry gets a look into Snape's past, and sees James using magic (later revealed to be one of Snape's invented spells) to mess with Snape and Harry is surprised and shocked to see Lily's vehement reaction (this (though this is because she was still Snape's friend though their friendship fell apart soon after).friend, albeit the memory was also that where Lily reached her limit with Snape). Lupin and Sirius later reassure Harry that they were just immature at that age and that he shouldn't let it get to him.


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*** The hero aspect is a bit more literal when you remember that James ''saved'' Snape's life when they were back in school (sometime after said incident), which did nothing more but infuriate Snape for being in James' debt.
11th Mar '16 12:25:52 PM Nazetrime
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** Sparadrap's real life job seem to have him be just famous enough to get interviewed from time to time. However, one of his lines from Season 2 hint that one of the reasons he gets away with spending lots of time on the MMORPG in which the story is set is that his father and grandmother prefer having him play video games than doing anything else. His guildmates also count as he's a {{Noob}} at the MMORPG in question.

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** Sparadrap's real life job seem seems to have him be just famous enough to get interviewed from time to time. However, one of his lines from Season 2 hint hints that one of the reasons he gets away with spending lots of so much time on the MMORPG in which the story is set is that his father and grandmother prefer having him play video games than doing anything else. His guildmates also count as he's a {{Noob}} at the MMORPG in question.



** [[spoiler:Being his father probably factors in the fact that Tenshirock has no respect for Judge Dead's authority as a Game Master.]]

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** [[spoiler:Being his father probably factors in into the fact that Tenshirock has no respect for Judge Dead's authority as a Game Master.]]
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