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25th Sep '16 4:50:24 PM Ryulong
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* For a look at what happens in these instances in real life, one need look no further than the tragedy of 9/11/01, in which the collapse of the World Trade Center towers, "merely" two buildings, not only resulted in about 2900 deaths, but spread dust and debris across the entirety of Lower Manhattan and caused significant damage to other nearby buildings, including 7 World Trade Center and the Bankers Trust building (which didn't collapse on its own, but had to be demolished later).
17th Sep '16 3:17:33 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''[[FlashForward2009 Flash Forward]]'' averts it in the pilot. When [[spoiler:almost]] everybody on Earth falls asleep for two minutes, there aren't exactly exemptions for drivers, pilots, or train conductors. Invoked though later, as while they keep showing residual damage on skyscrapers, all the cars are dent-free and the streets show no lingering, unfixed damage. What a public works department the USA must have!

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* ''[[FlashForward2009 Flash Forward]]'' ''Series/FlashForward2009'' averts it in the pilot. When [[spoiler:almost]] everybody on Earth falls asleep for two minutes, there aren't exactly exemptions for drivers, pilots, or train conductors. Invoked though later, as while they keep showing residual damage on skyscrapers, all the cars are dent-free and the streets show no lingering, unfixed damage. What a public works department the USA must have!
15th Sep '16 4:20:55 AM InfinityPlusTwo
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** In "Ocean Gem", Lapis Lazuli makes a huge tower out of the ocean's water but it doesn't cause mass extinction of the fishes. This might be intentional on her part though, as there are fish swimming around in the tower and they seem to be perfectly happy.

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** In "Ocean Gem", Lapis Lazuli makes a huge tower out of the ocean's water but it doesn't cause mass extinction of the fishes. This might be intentional on her part though, as there are fish swimming around in the tower and they seem to be perfectly happy. The tower pretty abruptly collapses when Lapis leaves Earth, and this doesn't seem to cause any problems for the fish either, or for anyone else when all this water crashes back into the Earth at a high speed.
22nd Aug '16 3:20:38 PM LondonKdS
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* ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' is subject to this a few times in Series 1, notably when the Moon had a closer orbit to Earth, an asteroid was within probably a few hundred kilometres of the surface, and all power everywhere was removed for a few minutes. No widespread damage or visible deaths.

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* ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' is subject to this ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'':
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a few times cases of this in Series 1, notably when the Moon had a closer orbit to Earth, when an asteroid was within probably a few hundred kilometres of the surface, and when all power everywhere was removed for a few minutes. No widespread damage or visible deaths.


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** "Death of the Doctor" does a single-character version of this by making it clear that Barbara Wright is still alive off-screen, contradicting the common dark fanon that gave her the real-life early death from cancer of her actor Jacqueline Hill, and blamed it on her irradiation on Skaro.
15th Aug '16 1:37:09 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** In ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', Magnetic Accelerator Weapons, one of them a "Super" MAC, are twice fired at targets not far off the ground, destroying them neatly. In the books, Super [=MACs=] in particular are described as so powerful that they fire at 0.04% the speed of light, which in real life would cause ecological disaster on the scale of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, nevermind that the shockwave alone actually has the potential to ''rend continents and set the atmosphere itself on fire''. The seemingly careless use of them near the ground in ''Reach'' is lampshaded by one character, who expresses surprise that a mere ''regular'' (ie non-"Super") MAC cannon being used in-atmosphere. His commander's remark "One way to get [the Covenant]'s attention" suggests it's because they've passed the GodzillaThreshold. The general consensus among fans is that the [=MAC=] firings seen were fired at a slower speed to reduce their collateral damage.

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** In ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', Magnetic Accelerator Weapons, Cannons, one of them a "Super" MAC, are twice fired at targets not far off the ground, destroying them neatly. In the books, Super [=MACs=] in particular are described as so powerful that they fire at 0.04% the speed of light, which in real life would cause ecological disaster on the scale of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, nevermind that the shockwave alone actually has the potential to ''rend continents and set the atmosphere itself on fire''. The seemingly careless use of them near the ground in ''Reach'' is lampshaded by one character, who expresses surprise that a mere ''regular'' (ie non-"Super") MAC cannon being used in-atmosphere. His commander's remark "One way to get [the Covenant]'s attention" suggests it's because they've passed the GodzillaThreshold. The general consensus among fans is that the [=MAC=] firings seen were fired at a slower speed to reduce their collateral damage.
15th Aug '16 1:35:49 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** In ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', "Super" Magnetic Accelerator Weapons are twice fired at targets not far off the ground, destroying them neatly. In the books, Super [=MACs=] are described as so powerful that they fire at 0.04% the speed of light, which in real life would cause ecological disaster on the scale of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, nevermind that the shockwave alone actually has the potential to ''rend continents and set the atmosphere itself on fire''. The seemingly careless use of them near the ground in ''Reach'' is lampshaded by one character, who expresses surprise that they're being used in-atmosphere. His commander's remark "One way to get [the Covenant]'s attention" suggests it's because they've passed the GodzillaThreshold. The general consensus among fans is that the [=MAC=] firings seen were fired at a slower speed to reduce their collateral damage.

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** In ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', "Super" Magnetic Accelerator Weapons Weapons, one of them a "Super" MAC, are twice fired at targets not far off the ground, destroying them neatly. In the books, Super [=MACs=] in particular are described as so powerful that they fire at 0.04% the speed of light, which in real life would cause ecological disaster on the scale of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, nevermind that the shockwave alone actually has the potential to ''rend continents and set the atmosphere itself on fire''. The seemingly careless use of them near the ground in ''Reach'' is lampshaded by one character, who expresses surprise that they're a mere ''regular'' (ie non-"Super") MAC cannon being used in-atmosphere. His commander's remark "One way to get [the Covenant]'s attention" suggests it's because they've passed the GodzillaThreshold. The general consensus among fans is that the [=MAC=] firings seen were fired at a slower speed to reduce their collateral damage.
15th Aug '16 1:28:32 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', Magnetic Accelerator Weapons are twice fired at targets not far off the ground, destroying them neatly. In the books, [=MACs=] are described as so powerful that they fire at 0.04% the speed of light and are used only in space because firing one at a planet would cause ecological disaster on the scale of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, nevermind that the shockwave alone actually has the potential to ''rend continents and set the atmosphere itself on fire.'' The seemingly careless use of them near the ground in ''Halo: Reach'' is lampshaded by one character, who expresses surprise that they're being used in-atmosphere. His commander's remark "One way to get [the Covenant]'s attention" suggests it's because they've passed the GodzillaThreshold. The general consensus among fans is that the [=MAC=] firings seen were fired at a slower speed to reduce their collateral damage.

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* ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'':
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In ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', "Super" Magnetic Accelerator Weapons are twice fired at targets not far off the ground, destroying them neatly. In the books, Super [=MACs=] are described as so powerful that they fire at 0.04% the speed of light and are used only light, which in space because firing one at a planet real life would cause ecological disaster on the scale of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, nevermind that the shockwave alone actually has the potential to ''rend continents and set the atmosphere itself on fire.'' fire''. The seemingly careless use of them near the ground in ''Halo: Reach'' ''Reach'' is lampshaded by one character, who expresses surprise that they're being used in-atmosphere. His commander's remark "One way to get [the Covenant]'s attention" suggests it's because they've passed the GodzillaThreshold. The general consensus among fans is that the [=MAC=] firings seen were fired at a slower speed to reduce their collateral damage.



** In ''Halo: Ghosts of Onyx'' a special type of bomb called NOVA was detonated booby-trap style on a Covenant carrier. Along with vaporizing the carrier and the fleet around it, the NOVA also shatters a nearby moon and ''scorches 1/4th of the planet it was orbiting.'' By the end of it, there's little if anything left alive on the surface of the planet.
17th Jul '16 5:01:21 AM ChronoLegion
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** Nothing of the sort is mentioned in the [[Film/IndependenceDayResurgence sequel]]. While many people were killed during the attacks on cities, those cities were eventually rebuilt (except Vegas, which became a memorial). Two decades later, not only has humanity rebuilt, but we also have several bases throughout the Solar System.

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** Nothing of the sort is mentioned in the [[Film/IndependenceDayResurgence sequel]]. While many people (over 3 billion = half the population of the world at the time) were killed during the attacks on cities, those cities were eventually rebuilt (except Vegas, which became a memorial). Two decades later, not only has humanity rebuilt, but we also have several bases throughout the Solar System. As pointed out by a number of people doing basic calculations, the more likely result of losing most major cities and half the population (especially in the industrial countries) would be a complete collapse of global society and the inability to restore it for centuries, if ever. People would be struggling to survive in a post-apocalyptic world instead of rebuilding everything as it was and building bases on the Moon
9th Jul '16 6:15:57 AM HighCrate
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** The mothership was destroyed with a nuclear warhead that apparently made its reactor explode. See that debris burning up in the skies? That's nuclear fallout irradiating the atmosphere of the entire hemisphere. There's also the issue of 18.4 quintillion tonns of alien mothership rubble falling out of orbit... or not. If it stays up there then [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome space is now an unusable cluttered junkyard]]. If it falls in big chunks it's the end of life on Earth. If it falls in small chunks the heat of friction as it burns up will likely render the Earth uninhabitable.

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** The mothership was destroyed with a nuclear warhead that apparently made its reactor explode. See that debris burning up in the skies? That's nuclear fallout irradiating the atmosphere of the entire hemisphere. There's also the issue of 18.4 quintillion tonns tons of alien mothership rubble falling out of orbit... or not. If it stays up there then [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome space is now an unusable cluttered junkyard]]. If it falls in big chunks it's the end of life on Earth. If it falls in small chunks the heat of friction as it burns up will likely render the Earth uninhabitable.
10th Jun '16 1:28:56 AM Tron80
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* ''Fanfic/OnceMoreWithFeeling'' averted this. The narration frequently informs how many people die during the battles among giant robots and robeasts and how much destruction they caused.
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