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11th May '18 6:12:01 AM Malady
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* Subverted in ''DragonBallZ'' when Future Trunks shows up wielding a sword and effortlessly destroys Frieza and King Cold, as previously weapons proved rather useless in the series. Later played straight when Trunks gets beaten up and his sword broken by the androids.
** Using a weapon in the ''DragonBall'' franchise as a whole doesn't make much of a difference, as the winner of a fight will usually be whoever has the highest power level rather than who is most skilled, faster, and/or experienced. Pretty much the only character whose fighting strength relies on a weapon is Yajirobe, and even then he's implied to be pretty tough on his own.
** A [[ExactlyWhatitSaysontheTin direct]] example of this trope is in Goku's 3rd Tenkaichi Tournament, during the fight between [[spoiler: Cyborg Tao]] and Tien. When [[spoiler: Tao]] realises he's [[CurbStompBattle getting his ass handed to him]], he pulls a super-sharp knife. [[CrowningMomentofAwesome Which Tien promptly snaps.]]

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* Subverted in ''DragonBallZ'' ''Manga/DragonBallZ'' when Future Trunks shows up wielding a sword and effortlessly destroys Frieza and King Cold, as previously weapons proved rather useless in the series. Later played straight when Trunks gets beaten up and his sword broken by the androids.
** Using a weapon in the ''DragonBall'' ''Manga/DragonBall'' franchise as a whole doesn't make much of a difference, as the winner of a fight will usually be whoever has the highest power level rather than who is most skilled, faster, and/or experienced. Pretty much the only character whose fighting strength relies on a weapon is Yajirobe, and even then he's implied to be pretty tough on his own.
** A [[ExactlyWhatitSaysontheTin [[ExactlyWhatitSaysOnTheTin direct]] example of this trope is in Goku's 3rd Tenkaichi Tournament, during the fight between [[spoiler: Cyborg [[spoiler:Cyborg Tao]] and Tien. When [[spoiler: Tao]] [[spoiler:Tao]] realises he's [[CurbStompBattle getting his ass handed to him]], he pulls a super-sharp knife. [[CrowningMomentofAwesome [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Which Tien promptly snaps.]]
10th May '18 5:08:17 PM nombretomado
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* In [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUEFxSOVd6A the brutal pilot]] of ''WebOriginal/CauseOfDeath'', the slob grabs a steak knife out of the kitchen drawer. The killer is not amused. Well... he's amused a little. And then he pulls out [[spoiler: a granola bar, with deadly results.]] Yeah, you read that right.

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* In [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUEFxSOVd6A the brutal pilot]] of ''WebOriginal/CauseOfDeath'', ''WebVideo/CauseOfDeath'', the slob grabs a steak knife out of the kitchen drawer. The killer is not amused. Well... he's amused a little. And then he pulls out [[spoiler: a granola bar, with deadly results.]] Yeah, you read that right.
6th May '18 11:59:59 PM trixus
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* One of the final upgrade in ''VideoGame/MadMax'' is the shiv reversal, which makes Max parry an attacker with a knife, kill him with the knife and add it into your inventory. One of the animation has Max twisting the attacker's arm so he slits his own throat.
17th Apr '18 7:12:57 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', every martial artist is skilled with [[ImprobableWeaponUser numerous weapon styles]], even those that fight barehanded. So, nobody berates the dedicated bladed-weapon users (Kodachi, Kuno, Mousse, Mint) for their choice... but their weapons never strike home anyway. Most {{egregious}} of all is Mousse, whose typical assault consists of tossing various weapons (some blunt, but mostly piercing and slashing ones) from his sleeves and ''[[InstantKnots tie up his opponent in the ropes attached to them]]'', instead of actually skewering anyone. But let him have a morningstar, a club, or even his own hands and feet, and he'll tear into a foe like it's nobody's business.

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* In ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', every martial artist is skilled with [[ImprobableWeaponUser numerous weapon styles]], even those that fight barehanded. So, nobody berates the dedicated bladed-weapon users (Kodachi, Kuno, Mousse, Mint) for their choice... but their weapons never strike home anyway. Most {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} of all is Mousse, whose typical assault consists of tossing various weapons (some blunt, but mostly piercing and slashing ones) from his sleeves and ''[[InstantKnots tie up his opponent in the ropes attached to them]]'', instead of actually skewering anyone. But let him have a morningstar, a club, or even his own hands and feet, and he'll tear into a foe like it's nobody's business.



* ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' has an {{egregious}} subversion of this, intended or not; though [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] isn't regarded as high tier, [[FireEmblem Marth]] and [[VideoGame/{{Kirby}} Meta Knight]] certainly are. Young/Toon Link has come under fire as a possible subversion of the trope too.

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* ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' has an {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} subversion of this, intended or not; though [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] isn't regarded as high tier, [[FireEmblem Marth]] and [[VideoGame/{{Kirby}} Meta Knight]] certainly are. Young/Toon Link has come under fire as a possible subversion of the trope too.
15th Apr '18 11:37:06 AM SteveMB
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* [[http://www.boiseweekly.com/CityDesk/archives/2011/12/09/skinhead-knocked-out-by-victim-now-faces-hate-crime-sentence#.TugtO1YcKfw.facebook This]] neo-Nazi held up a black man at knifepoint. Too bad he didn't read the man's shirt, which said "Spokane Boxing Club Champion."

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* [[http://www.boiseweekly.com/CityDesk/archives/2011/12/09/skinhead-knocked-out-by-victim-now-faces-hate-crime-sentence#.TugtO1YcKfw.facebook This]] neo-Nazi held up a black man at knifepoint. Too bad he didn't read the man's shirt, which said "Spokane "[[MuggingTheMonster Spokane Boxing Club Champion.Champion]]."
12th Apr '18 5:26:41 PM eroock
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-->--''Literature/ChroniclesOfTheKencyrath''

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-->--''Literature/ChroniclesOfTheKencyrath''-->-- ''Literature/ChroniclesOfTheKencyrath''
10th Apr '18 9:33:18 AM JackG
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** In ''Film/ForcedVengeance'' one goon shows himself cleverer than most. He goes charging up making KungFoley sounds, only for Chuck to produce a .45 from behind his cowboy hat -- [[KnowWhenToFoldThem goon quietly slinks off]]. Others [[TooDumbToLive play the trope straight]].

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** In However in ''Film/ForcedVengeance'' one goon shows the first thing Chuck does on realising he's in trouble is get himself cleverer than most. a gun. He goes charging up making KungFoley sounds, only for Chuck to produce a .45 from behind his cowboy hat -- [[KnowWhenToFoldThem goon quietly slinks off]]. Others [[TooDumbToLive play the trope straight]].kicks plenty of ass barehanded, but he's still a CombatPragmatist.
10th Apr '18 9:31:01 AM JackG
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** In ''Film/ForcedVengeance'' one goon shows himself cleverer than most. He goes charging up making KungFoley sounds, only for Chuck to produce a .45 from behind his cowboy hat -- [[KnowWhenToFoldThem goon quietly slinks off]]. Others [[TooDumbToLive play the trope straight]].
23rd Feb '18 8:17:57 PM Owlorange1995
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* The first two times Link confronts Ganondorf in ''Videogame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'', he has the Master Sword while his opponent relies on his fists. He gets beaten down both times for his trouble. [[spoiler:When Ganondorf's plan is truly and utterly foiled, he pulls out a pair of katanas for a final attack and gets impaled through the head by Link.]]
15th Jan '18 7:35:24 PM JackG
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* Literature/JohnRain prefers to rely on his martial arts skill (knives are messy, after all) but a couple of near misses against knife-wielding opponents, and the realization that his skills are fading with age, causes Rain to start carrying a knife regularly after the first few novels.
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