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10th Jul '16 11:28:41 AM nombretomado
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* Another one from BioWare and StarWars: Jolee Bindo from ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' is a [[KnightInSourArmor ex-Jedi in Sour Armor]] who left the Order and had exiled himself. Despite being neutral on the KarmaMeter, and making a good show of not caring about the outcome of the current war, he is very quick to scold a player's Dark Side acts. When it comes down to the wire, he chooses the path of a Jedi and will positively ''refuse'' to join you if you choose Dark Side.

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* Another one from BioWare Creator/BioWare and StarWars: Jolee Bindo from ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' is a [[KnightInSourArmor ex-Jedi in Sour Armor]] who left the Order and had exiled himself. Despite being neutral on the KarmaMeter, and making a good show of not caring about the outcome of the current war, he is very quick to scold a player's Dark Side acts. When it comes down to the wire, he chooses the path of a Jedi and will positively ''refuse'' to join you if you choose Dark Side.
22nd Jun '16 10:54:27 AM eowynjedi
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Earthsong}}, the Spinster is a powerful spider-like telepath who is uninterested in taking sides in the fight between Earthsong and Beluosus, and will provide his handmade clothing to both sides since he can enforce his privacy through his spiderwebs. After befriending Willow, he decides to change his policy and sides with Earthsong. [[spoiler:He dies in defense of Haven when Beluosus invades it.]]
15th Jun '16 10:12:16 PM Doug86
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** The U.S. stayed neutral in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne until the Germans were caught attempting to form an offensive alliance with Mexico against the United States.
** The U.S. didn't really start to help the Allies in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo until after the fall of France, and did not get into the war until after Pearl Harbor, and did not declare war against Germany until after Germany declared war against the U.S.

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** The U.S. stayed neutral in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI until the Germans were caught attempting to form an offensive alliance with Mexico against the United States.
** The U.S. didn't really start to help the Allies in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo UsefulNotes/WorldWarII until after the fall of France, and did not get into the war until after Pearl Harbor, and did not declare war against Germany until after Germany declared war against the U.S.
11th Jun '16 6:25:00 AM Adept
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->''-->"I'd made up my mind to steer clear of the Alliance, make my living out where I wouldn't be bothered and wouldn't be bothering neither. But you won't seem to let me live that way. Every time I try to walk away, you come followin'. Well, from now on, you choose to chase me, I'm gonna turn and meet you head on. Be honest, I'm developin' a taste for it."''

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->''-->"I'd ->"I'd made up my mind to steer clear of the Alliance, make my living out where I wouldn't be bothered and wouldn't be bothering neither. But you won't seem to let me live that way. Every time I try to walk away, you come followin'. Well, from now on, you choose to chase me, I'm gonna turn and meet you head on. Be honest, I'm developin' a taste for it."''"
11th Jun '16 6:24:17 AM Adept
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->''"I will be courteous to all, whether friend, foe, or neutral. Especially neutral."''
-->-- [[http://www.geocities.ws/evilsnack/hero.html "The Things I Will Do if I Am Ever the Hero" list]]

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->''"I will ->''-->"I'd made up my mind to steer clear of the Alliance, make my living out where I wouldn't be courteous bothered and wouldn't be bothering neither. But you won't seem to all, whether friend, foe, or neutral. Especially neutral.let me live that way. Every time I try to walk away, you come followin'. Well, from now on, you choose to chase me, I'm gonna turn and meet you head on. Be honest, I'm developin' a taste for it."''
-->-- [[http://www.geocities.ws/evilsnack/hero.html "The Things I Will Do if I Am Ever the Hero" list]]
'''Mal''', ''ComicBook/SerenityLeavesOnTheWind''



* {{Spider-Man}} had his NeutralNoLonger moment in his origin story after his refusal to stop a thief on the grounds that it [[BystanderSyndrome wasn't his problem]] got his Uncle Ben killed. He gave up on using his powers for fame and fortune and became a superhero.
* It takes nearly the ''entire series'' for [[StarWarsLegacy Cade Skywalker]] to stop being a selfish {{Jerkass}}. After the Sith have endangered and killed just about everyone he gives a damn about, Cade declares war on them though he still doesn't accept the Jedi calling yet. ''That'' doesn't happen until the ''FinalBattle''.
** Not really. While Cade doesn't sign on with the Imperials or Jedi, he is pretty consistently against the Sith.

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* {{Spider-Man}} ComicBook/SpiderMan had his NeutralNoLonger moment in his origin story after his refusal to stop a thief on the grounds that it [[BystanderSyndrome wasn't his problem]] got his Uncle Ben killed. He gave up on using his powers for fame and fortune and became a superhero.
* ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy'' It takes nearly the ''entire series'' for [[StarWarsLegacy Cade Skywalker]] Skywalker to stop being a selfish {{Jerkass}}. After the Sith have endangered and killed just about everyone he gives a damn about, Cade declares war on them though he still doesn't accept the Jedi calling yet. ''That'' doesn't happen until the ''FinalBattle''.
** Not really. While Cade doesn't sign on with the Imperials or Jedi, he is pretty consistently against the Sith.
''ComicBook/FinalBattle''.



* In ''ComicBook/SerenityLeavesOnTheWind'', when the [[LaResistance New Resistance]] catches up with ''Serenity'' Mal initially rejects their request to be their leader. But after the Alliance captures Zoe and kills most of the NR in separate incidents, [[NeutralNoLonger he finally gets angry enough]].
-->"I'd made up my mind to steer clear of the Alliance, make my living out where I wouldn't be bothered and wouldn't be bothering neither. But you won't seem to let me live that way. Every time I try to walk away, you come followin'. Well, from now on, you choose to chase me, I'm gonna turn and meet you head on. Be honest, I'm developin' a taste for it."

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* In ''ComicBook/SerenityLeavesOnTheWind'', when the [[LaResistance New Resistance]] catches up with ''Serenity'' Mal initially rejects their request to be their leader. But after the Alliance captures Zoe and kills most of the NR in separate incidents, [[NeutralNoLonger he finally gets angry enough]].
-->"I'd made up my mind to steer clear of the Alliance, make my living out where I wouldn't be bothered and wouldn't be bothering neither. But you won't seem to let me live that way. Every time I try to walk away, you come followin'. Well, from now on, you choose to chase me, I'm gonna turn and meet you head on. Be honest, I'm developin' a taste for it."
enough.
30th May '16 11:10:41 PM whatnowv
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** Also happens ''within'' the United States - at the outbreak of the Civil War in 1861, Kentucky was a slave-holding state that identified culturally with the South but one that didn't have much appetite for secession (its governor Beriah Magoffin was Southern-sympathizing and bristled at President Lincoln's call for troops to serve in Union armies but believed slave states should remain in the Union and the Constitution). For the first several months it tried to stay neutral, its legislature refusing to vote on a bill of secession and instead passed bill asking both side to leave them alone. Then Confederate General Leonidas Polk occupied the town of Columbus that summer, spurring the legislature (which at this point had become pro-Union enough to override the governor's vetoes) to start passing legislation blatantly against Confederate efforts but not the Union's - ''this'' in turn pissed off pro-Confederates in the western and central parts of the state, who [[StartMyOwn established their own state government]] that joined the Confederacy that December. Kentcuky's stance was sorted out by 1862, with the state effectively in Union hands thanks to General Ulysses Grant, the original pro-Union government remaining in effective control, Governor Magoffin resigning, and the rival pro-Confederate government existing only on paper having been forced to flee to Tennessee.

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** Also happens ''within'' the United States - at the outbreak of the Civil War in 1861, Kentucky was a slave-holding state that identified culturally with the South but one that didn't have much appetite for secession (its governor Beriah Magoffin was Southern-sympathizing and bristled at President Lincoln's call for troops to serve in Union armies but believed slave states should remain in the Union and the Constitution). For the first several months it tried to stay neutral, its legislature refusing to vote on a bill of secession and instead passed bill asking both side to leave them alone. Then Confederate General Leonidas Polk occupied the town of Columbus that summer, spurring the legislature (which at this point had become pro-Union enough to override the governor's vetoes) to start passing legislation blatantly against Confederate efforts but not the Union's - ''this'' in turn pissed off pro-Confederates in the western and central parts of the state, who [[StartMyOwn established their own state government]] that joined the Confederacy that December. Kentcuky's Kentucky's stance was sorted out by 1862, with the state effectively in Union hands thanks to General Ulysses Grant, the original pro-Union government remaining in effective control, Governor Magoffin resigning, and the rival pro-Confederate government existing only on paper having been forced to flee to Tennessee.
30th May '16 2:41:40 AM AmbushBugbear
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** A more direct example would be the reptilian bounty hunters Gannji and Enor, who have no stake in the Empire of Blood's political struggles and are perfectly willing to do business with it...until Tarquin tries to [[spoiler: have them kill each other in a gladiatorial arena]], after which they [[spoiler: sign up with a newly-formed [[LaResistance resistance group]].]]
20th Apr '16 7:07:48 AM Morgenthaler
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*** Not entirely, as he did express his hatred for the Empire from the very beginning and wanted to join the Rebellion as many of his friends had done. Obligation toward his family kept him on Tattooine. Han Solo better fits the trope, as his only interest in assisting the Rebellion at first was to get up enough money to pay off Jabba the Hutt. Attachment to Luke and ''especially'' Leia, seeing what the Empire was up to first-hand, [[spoiler:Chewbacca talking him into it, and Darth Vader freezing him in carbonite and shipping him to Jabba]] probably sealed the deal. [[spoiler:Given that Chewbacca was GoodAllAlong, having assisted the Old Republic and the Jedi as a high-level decision-maker in ''Revenge of the Sith'', it's possible Chewie exercised a BatmanGambit to enlist the galaxy's best smuggler into the Rebellion.]]
16th Feb '16 11:32:57 PM TheSinful
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* Though none of them are remotely badass, in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4967518/5/Adamantine-Mist Adamantine Mist]]'' all the civilians of [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Nerima]] set out to destroy Ranma's would be fiances after Shampoo attacks [[FriendToAllLivingThings Kasumi]]. This is done through actions like delaying orders to Ukyo's restaurant or flat out refusing to sell to Shampoo's and Cologne's cafe.
31st Dec '15 4:57:45 PM nombretomado
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* On the ''{{Community}}'' episode [[Recap/CommunityS3E14PillowsAndBlankets "Pillows and Blankets"]], while a campus-wide CivilWar ragea round him, [[ManipulativeBastard Jeff]] first exploits the conflict for personal gain. However, he makes a genuine stance once he sees that the friendship between Troy and Abed has seriously deteriorated. (Subverted in that instead of picking a side to support, he works towards the pair's reconciliation.)

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* On the ''{{Community}}'' ''Series/{{Community}}'' episode [[Recap/CommunityS3E14PillowsAndBlankets "Pillows and Blankets"]], while a campus-wide CivilWar ragea round him, [[ManipulativeBastard Jeff]] first exploits the conflict for personal gain. However, he makes a genuine stance once he sees that the friendship between Troy and Abed has seriously deteriorated. (Subverted in that instead of picking a side to support, he works towards the pair's reconciliation.)
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