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22nd Apr '17 1:34:40 PM nombretomado
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* Many of the characters in the original ''{{Suikoden}}'' are TrueNeutral and forced out of retirement. Most of them join LaResistance because TheEmpire attacked/drafted them, but one notable occasion has LaResistance itself drafting a forger who [[{{Ijustwanttobenormal}} wants live a quiet life]].
** And in ''SuikodenV'', one of the Stars is a doctor who struggles to remain neutral in the civil war due to a desire to help the wounded and ill on both sides. Eventually, however, he begins to realize that the Godwin's absolutely ''have'' to be stopped, and promptly joins the Prince's army.
** ''SuikodenV'' also has the Oboro Detective Agency, who go through several layers of this. First, Oboro must be convinced to officially join the Prince, which can go very easily if he was impressed by the Prince helping out their investigation earlier or poorly if the Prince [[GuideDangIt made a wrong choice or two]] (or missed out on the investigation entirely). When he finally does join, [[StepfordSmiler Sagiri]] chooses to OptOut, staying with the agency but refusing to join the war effort... unless the Prince finds ''somebody else'' and tries to recruit ''them'', leading to Sagiri revealing her [[DarkAndTroubledPast reasons for not wanting to fight]] before deciding to sign on anyway.

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Many of the characters in the original ''{{Suikoden}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden|I}}'' are TrueNeutral and forced out of retirement. Most of them join LaResistance because TheEmpire attacked/drafted them, but one notable occasion has LaResistance itself drafting a forger who [[{{Ijustwanttobenormal}} [[IJustWantToBeNormal wants live a quiet life]].
** And in ''SuikodenV'', In ''VideoGame/SuikodenV'', one of the Stars is a doctor who struggles to remain neutral in the civil war due to a desire to help the wounded and ill on both sides. Eventually, however, he begins to realize that the Godwin's absolutely ''have'' to be stopped, and promptly joins the Prince's army.
** ''SuikodenV'' also ''VideoGame/SuikodenV'' has the Oboro Detective Agency, who go through several layers of this. First, Oboro must be convinced to officially join the Prince, which can go very easily if he was impressed by the Prince helping out their investigation earlier or poorly if the Prince [[GuideDangIt made a wrong choice or two]] (or missed out on the investigation entirely). When he finally does join, [[StepfordSmiler Sagiri]] chooses to OptOut, staying with the agency but refusing to join the war effort... unless the Prince finds ''somebody else'' and tries to recruit ''them'', leading to Sagiri revealing her [[DarkAndTroubledPast reasons for not wanting to fight]] before deciding to sign on anyway.
22nd Apr '17 3:39:12 AM CountDorku
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* ''VideoGame/Borderlands2'' begins with this. The player characters are Vault Hunters - basically mercenary adventurers employed to open Eridian Vaults. While they had their ''reasons'' for being on Pandora, only two really had any meaningful ties to anything there - Salvador was born on Pandora, and Krieg had an old enmity with Hyperion and was only there because of Maya. The initial driver of the plot is Handsome Jack betraying the player characters and leaving them for dead, which is one of those things that influences people without making friends and successfully motivated them all to side with his enemies, the Crimson Raiders.

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* ''VideoGame/Borderlands2'' begins with this. The player characters are Vault Hunters - basically mercenary adventurers employed to open Eridian Vaults. While they had their ''reasons'' for being on Pandora, only two really had any meaningful ties to anything there - Salvador was born on Pandora, and Krieg had an old enmity with Hyperion and was only there on the train because of Maya. The initial driver of the plot is Handsome Jack betraying the player characters and leaving them for dead, which is one of those things that influences people without making friends and successfully motivated them all to side with his enemies, the Crimson Raiders.
22nd Apr '17 3:38:01 AM CountDorku
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* ''VideoGame/Borderlands2'' begins with this. The player characters are Vault Hunters - basically mercenary adventurers employed to open Eridian Vaults. While they had their ''reasons'' for being on Pandora, only two really had any meaningful ties to anything there - Salvador was born on Pandora, and Krieg had an old enmity with Hyperion and was only there because of Maya. The initial driver of the plot is Handsome Jack betraying the player characters and leaving them for dead, which is one of those things that influences people without making friends and successfully motivated them all to side with his enemies, the Crimson Raiders.
2nd Apr '17 9:40:08 AM Kaiseror
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': Kanan meets an ancient force-welding being called The Bendu who is AboveGoodAndEvil and prefers to live in isolation on the unmarked planet Atollon where Phoenix Squadron has made their hidden base. When [[spoiler:Grand Admiral Thrawn finds their hideout,]] Kanan tries to get his help but The Bendu is having none of it, then he [[BerserkButton calls him a coward]] this finally spurs him into [[spoiler:changing into a massive [[ShockAndAwe thunderstorm]] which then precedes to [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor attack both the Empire and Rebellion indiscriminately.]]]]
2nd Apr '17 9:10:37 AM WWRU
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* As you work your way through the various runs of ''Videogame/{{Undertale}}'', though [[YouBastard he certainly won't hesitate to call you out on it]], you can murder anyone you want in the Underground and [[spoiler:Sans the skeleton]] will still let you pass him without a fight. [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential Even if you kill Papyrus.]] But if you decide to KillEmAll and [[spoiler:thus permanently remove any chance of ever reaching the GoldenEnding again,]] he finally becomes motivated enough to [[spoiler:step up and make a last stand in the Judgement Hall, at the point of no return. [[ThatOneBoss Bad]] [[AwakeningTheSleepingGiant times]] [[SNKBoss ensue.]]]]

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* As you work your way through the various runs of ''Videogame/{{Undertale}}'', though [[YouBastard he certainly won't hesitate to call you out on it]], you can murder anyone you want in the Underground and [[spoiler:Sans the skeleton]] will still let you pass him without a fight. [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential Even if you kill Papyrus.]] But if you decide to KillEmAll and [[spoiler:thus permanently remove any chance of ever reaching the GoldenEnding again,]] he finally becomes motivated enough to [[spoiler:step up and make a last stand in the Judgement Hall, at the point of no return. [[ThatOneBoss Bad]] [[AwakeningTheSleepingGiant [[DifficultySpike times]] [[SNKBoss ensue.]]]]
2nd Apr '17 9:08:36 AM WWRU
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* As you work your way through the various runs of ''Videogame/{{Undertale}}'', though [[YouBastard he certainly won't hesitate to call you out on it]], you can murder anyone you want in the Underground and [[spoiler:Sans the skeleton]] will still let you pass him without a fight. [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential Even if you kill Papyrus.]] But if you decide to KillEmAll and [[spoiler:thus permanently remove any chance of ever reaching the GoldenEnding again,]] he finally becomes motivated enough to [[spoiler:step up and make a last stand in the Judgement Hall, at the point of no return. [[ThatOneBoss Bad]] [[AwakeningTheSleepingGiant times]] [[SNKBoss ensue.]]]]
23rd Mar '17 5:54:25 PM Doug86
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* In a StarTrekExpandedUniverse novel, the entire plot is revealed to have been a ploy by Starfleet Intelligence to bring the Klingons out of their neutral state in regards to Federation-Romulan negotiations on the side of the Federation by making the Romulans appear to be dishonorable and underhanded (not a difficult task, mind you). This results in the Treaty of Algeron, when the Romulans close their borders for several decades in exchange for the Federation banning all cloaking research.

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* In a StarTrekExpandedUniverse Franchise/StarTrekExpandedUniverse novel, the entire plot is revealed to have been a ploy by Starfleet Intelligence to bring the Klingons out of their neutral state in regards to Federation-Romulan negotiations on the side of the Federation by making the Romulans appear to be dishonorable and underhanded (not a difficult task, mind you). This results in the Treaty of Algeron, when the Romulans close their borders for several decades in exchange for the Federation banning all cloaking research.
14th Feb '17 1:43:11 AM eroock
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->"I'd made up my mind to steer clear of the Alliance, make my living out where I wouldn't be bothered and wouldn't be bothering neither. But you won't seem to let me live that way. Every time I try to walk away, you come followin'. Well, from now on, you choose to chase me, I'm gonna turn and meet you head on. Be honest, I'm developin' a taste for it."

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->"I'd ->''"I'd made up my mind to steer clear of the Alliance, make my living out where I wouldn't be bothered and wouldn't be bothering neither. But you won't seem to let me live that way. Every time I try to walk away, you come followin'. Well, from now on, you choose to chase me, I'm gonna turn and meet you head on. Be honest, I'm developin' a taste for it.""''
22nd Jan '17 2:49:40 PM Xtifr
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* In ''[[VideoGame/TearsToTiara2 Tears to Tiara 2]]'', the [[GeniusLoci city of Tartessos]] honors an ancient treaty to the Barcids to serve as the capital of Hispania. It then proceeds to remain completely indifferent besides having its groundkeeper tag along with TheParty, despite being invaded and having its walls broken down. Finally when it witness Monomachus' LastStand defending it, it joins in the fight and easily wins with StoryBreakerPower. Though it pretty much goes back to being neutral right after, being originally a city of [[TheFatalist the dragons]] [[OurDragonsAreDifferent and all]].

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* In ''[[VideoGame/TearsToTiara2 Tears to Tiara 2]]'', the [[GeniusLoci city of Tartessos]] honors an ancient treaty to the Barcids to serve as the capital of Hispania. It then proceeds to remain completely indifferent besides having its groundkeeper tag along with TheParty, the Party, despite being invaded and having its walls broken down. Finally when it witness Monomachus' LastStand defending it, it joins in the fight and easily wins with StoryBreakerPower. Though it pretty much goes back to being neutral right after, being originally a city of [[TheFatalist the dragons]] [[OurDragonsAreDifferent and all]].
13th Dec '16 2:35:52 AM Randallw201238
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* On the ''Series/{{Community}}'' episode [[Recap/CommunityS3E14PillowsAndBlankets "Pillows and Blankets"]], while a campus-wide CivilWar ragea round him, [[ManipulativeBastard Jeff]] first exploits the conflict for personal gain. However, he makes a genuine stance once he sees that the friendship between Troy and Abed has seriously deteriorated. (Subverted in that instead of picking a side to support, he works towards the pair's reconciliation.)

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* On the ''Series/{{Community}}'' episode [[Recap/CommunityS3E14PillowsAndBlankets "Pillows and Blankets"]], while a campus-wide CivilWar ragea rages round him, [[ManipulativeBastard Jeff]] first exploits the conflict for personal gain. However, he makes a genuine stance once he sees that the friendship between Troy and Abed has seriously deteriorated. (Subverted in that instead of picking a side to support, he works towards the pair's reconciliation.)
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