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20th Jul '16 2:02:25 PM Morgenthaler
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* A few specific examples of this are called out below, but really, until fairly recently this was more the rule than the exception in American sitcoms. Even though syndication and the idea of reruns had been around since ''I Love Lucy,'' the sheer lack of channels meant airing many reruns was unlikely, and because of this, most writers would not pay attention to previous continuity if it got in the way of their own story, especially since most audiences wouldn't remember or care about smaller details (hence the reason a character could mention having a childhood pet cat in one episode and be deathly allergic to them the next.) It really wasn't until several factors in the Nineties that made it easier to recall information, such as an explosion of new cable channels desperate for content heavily airing reruns, the beginning of home video releases on DVD, and the rise of the internet leading to people easily storing and accessing information about shows and characters, that audiences really began expecting tighter continuity from shows and started holding writers to higher standards.

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* A few specific examples of this are called out below, but really, until fairly recently this was more the rule than the exception in American sitcoms. Even though syndication and the idea of reruns had been around since ''I Love Lucy,'' the sheer lack of channels meant airing many reruns was unlikely, and because of this, most writers would not pay attention to previous continuity if it got in the way of their own story, especially since most audiences wouldn't remember or care about smaller details (hence the reason a character could mention having a childhood pet cat in one episode and be deathly allergic to them the next.) It really wasn't until several factors in the Nineties that made it easier to recall information, such as an explosion of new cable channels desperate for content heavily airing reruns, the beginning of home video releases on DVD, and the rise of the internet leading to people easily storing and accessing information about shows and characters, that audiences really began expecting tighter continuity from shows and started holding writers to higher standards.standards.
5th Jul '16 8:14:15 AM editproboss
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* ''WebAnimation/RetardedAnimalBabies'', also hosted on Website/{{Newgrounds}}, takes full advantage of NegativeContinuity to kill/maim the main cast (especially [[ButtMonkey Bunny]]) each episode, only to have them back by the next. In one later episode, the entire ''universe'' was destroyed by one of the cast [[spoiler:when he tried to f*** a ''black hole'']]. Surprisingly, the series actually reveals ''why'' it has NegativeContinuity (aside from RuleOfFunny): [[spoiler:in one timeline the cast grew up; while they ultimately became successful adults (somehow) they also became smart enough to realize that their world ''[[CrapsackWorld sucks]]'']]. Cat, [[spoiler:who became a MadScientist, then invented a Physical Law Usurper, which gave them all the chance to go to a place outside of normal space and time, where they could remain blissfully ignorant forever]]. As a side character in a later episode notes, "they exist in a continuity proof bubble, like a bunch of Kennys from ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''!"

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* ''WebAnimation/RetardedAnimalBabies'', also hosted on Website/{{Newgrounds}}, takes full advantage of NegativeContinuity to kill/maim the main cast (especially [[ButtMonkey Bunny]]) each episode, only to have them back by the next. In one later episode, the entire ''universe'' was destroyed by one of the cast [[spoiler:when he tried to f*** destroy a ''black hole'']]. Surprisingly, the series actually reveals ''why'' it has NegativeContinuity (aside from RuleOfFunny): [[spoiler:in one timeline the cast grew up; while they ultimately became successful adults (somehow) they also became smart enough to realize that their world ''[[CrapsackWorld sucks]]'']]. Cat, [[spoiler:who became a MadScientist, then invented a Physical Law Usurper, which gave them all the chance to go to a place outside of normal space and time, where they could remain blissfully ignorant forever]]. As a side character in a later episode notes, "they exist in a continuity proof bubble, like a bunch of Kennys from ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''!"
28th Jun '16 4:49:48 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Series/SavedByTheBell'' rarely had any continuity from one episode to the next. One ChristmasEpisode had Zack ask a homeless family to live with him, only for them to disappear once the episode ended. This trope was most glaring when it came to the kids' parents (the few times they showed up). Usually, they would be [[TheOtherDarrin played by a different actor/actress each time]], they would be divorced or not divorced, had different occupations, and would even have different names.
** Of course, let's not forget the "Tori season". Essentially, the show filmed its final season, including the graduation. The network wanted more episodes, but two of the three female leads wouldn't return. A new slate of episodes were filmed with a new female character. These episodes where aired alternately with the original final season episodes. Therefore, they had Kelly & Jessie episodes interspersed with Tori episodes with Zack as love interest for both Kelly & Tori and neither set of episodes referencing each other.

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* ''Series/SavedByTheBell'' rarely had any continuity from one episode to the next.
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One ChristmasEpisode had Zack ask a homeless family to live with him, only for them to disappear once the episode ended. This trope was most glaring when it came to the ended.
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kids' parents (the few times they showed up). Usually, they would be [[TheOtherDarrin played by a different actor/actress each time]], they would be divorced or not divorced, had different occupations, and would even have different names.
** Of course, let's not forget the The "Tori season". season." Essentially, the show filmed its final season, including the graduation. The network wanted more episodes, but two of the three female leads wouldn't return. A new slate of episodes were filmed with a new female character. These episodes where aired alternately with the original final season episodes. Therefore, they had Kelly & Jessie episodes interspersed with Tori episodes with Zack as love interest for both Kelly & Tori and neither set of episodes referencing each other.
28th Jun '16 4:46:54 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* The ''Film/XMen'' films have gotten this way due to ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'' and ''Film/XMenFirstClass'', both of which were prequels to the first three films and played fast and loose with the timeline. Mainly this is in regards to Emma Frost (is she a 20-something in the 60's or a teen in '79?).
** It's since been clarified that ''First Class'' is the ''true'' prequel to the original trilogy, while ''Wolverine'' has been [[CanonDiscontinuity thrown out of continuity]]. While promoting ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'', Creator/BryanSinger and Lauren Shuler Donner officially confirmed ''Origins'' is gone from canon, since it's the only X-Men movie that is absolutely ''impossible'' to reconcile with the other films.

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* The ''Film/XMen'' films have gotten this way due to ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'' and ''Film/XMenFirstClass'', both of which were prequels to the first three films and played fast and loose with the timeline. Mainly this is in regards to Emma Frost (is she a 20-something in the 60's or a teen in '79?).
** It's since been clarified that ''First Class'' is the ''true'' prequel to the original trilogy, while
''Wolverine'' has been [[CanonDiscontinuity officially thrown out of continuity]]. While promoting ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'', Creator/BryanSinger and Lauren Shuler Donner officially confirmed ''Origins'' is gone from canon, since it's the only X-Men movie that is absolutely ''impossible'' to reconcile with the other films.
12th Jun '16 4:01:50 PM Prfnoff
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* Similar to ''Galaxy Angel'' above, ''Manga/SgtFrog'' doesn't give much attention to continuity unless it's introducing a new character. However, it does cycle through seasons normally, often changing seasons once per volume, but the characters are never shown graduating or aging at all.

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* Similar to ''Galaxy Angel'' above, ''Manga/SgtFrog'' doesn't give much attention to continuity unless it's introducing a new character. However, it does cycle through seasons normally, often changing seasons once per volume, but the characters are never shown graduating or aging at all.



* Similarly, ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'''s WebAnimation/TeenGirlSquad has at least one of the girls die in almost every episode, but come back in the next.

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* Similarly, ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'''s WebAnimation/TeenGirlSquad has at least one of the girls die in almost every episode, but come back in the next.
2nd Jun '16 8:07:49 PM ImNotMonty
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* {{WebVideo/Googlebrains}}: Even though Fluxburgh is completely blown up in the first installment of Disgust Destroys Fluxburgh, the second one has Fluxburgh intact.
19th May '16 4:10:56 PM nombretomado
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* ''TheMightyBoosh'' is hardly the type of show you'd expect to find continuity in anyway but it has a surprising combination of both ResetButton and SnapBack plots. One episode has a main character die only to have him rescued from hell by another, upon returning he's asked "I thought you were dead" only to respond with something to the effect of "Yeah, I'm back now" which is treated very nonchalantly. In other examples, Bollo the gorilla dies on one episodes ending only to appear again later. One {{egregious}} example involves them employing a SnapBack on {{Backstory}}-- Howard reveals that he doesn't play instruments because he [[DealWithTheDevil signed his soul over to the Spirit of Jazz to become a musical genius]] and now every time he picks up an instrument the [[DemonicPossession Spirit of Jazz controls him]]. This isn't remedied in any way at the end of the episode but the ''very next episode'' open with Howard playing a guitar with no ill effects or explanation.

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* ''TheMightyBoosh'' ''Series/TheMightyBoosh'' is hardly the type of show you'd expect to find continuity in anyway but it has a surprising combination of both ResetButton and SnapBack plots. One episode has a main character die only to have him rescued from hell by another, upon returning he's asked "I thought you were dead" only to respond with something to the effect of "Yeah, I'm back now" which is treated very nonchalantly. In other examples, Bollo the gorilla dies on one episodes ending only to appear again later. One {{egregious}} example involves them employing a SnapBack on {{Backstory}}-- Howard reveals that he doesn't play instruments because he [[DealWithTheDevil signed his soul over to the Spirit of Jazz to become a musical genius]] and now every time he picks up an instrument the [[DemonicPossession Spirit of Jazz controls him]]. This isn't remedied in any way at the end of the episode but the ''very next episode'' open with Howard playing a guitar with no ill effects or explanation.
1st May '16 12:38:51 AM 4power4
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** The Dark Curse is stated to capture everyone in the realm of Enchanted Forest, except in Season 4, despite being within the same realm, Arandelle and Agrabah are seen as untouched by the curse.

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** The Dark Curse is stated to capture everyone in the realm of Enchanted Forest, except in Forest. In Season 4, despite being within the same realm, Arandelle and Agrabah are seen as untouched by the curse.



** Regina enchants Hook's hook to steal Cora's heart with a wave of her hand. According to season 5, it was a potion that Hook has kept. The audience literally saw the event of Regina enchanting the hook, no potion was ever involved.

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** Regina enchants Hook's hook to steal Cora's heart with a wave of her hand. According to season 5, it was a potion that Hook has kept.kept that give him this ability. The audience literally saw the event of Regina enchanting the hook, no potion was ever involved.
1st May '16 12:31:22 AM 4power4
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** We also learn that "nothing can escape the Dark Curse" in the first episode. And then a later episode says that Hook escaped the second curse by "outrunning" it. Which literally goes against the very plot of the show, that no one could escape it.
1st May '16 12:28:42 AM 4power4
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*''Series/{{Once Upon A Time}}'' has developed this in pretty much every season post season 2.
** The Dark Curse is stated to capture everyone in the realm of Enchanted Forest, except in Season 4, despite being within the same realm, Arandelle and Agrabah are seen as untouched by the curse.
** It's stated once a person dies, you can't bring them back from the dead. Except Maleficent and Jafar (in the spinoff show) were revived from death itself. While Maleficent's resurrection is given some (faulty) logic, Jafar dies and simply wakes up. No explanation.
** Regina enchants Hook's hook to steal Cora's heart with a wave of her hand. According to season 5, it was a potion that Hook has kept. The audience literally saw the event of Regina enchanting the hook, no potion was ever involved.
** We learn in Season 1 that there was only one magic bean left. However we later learn that are literally millions if not billions still held by the Giants. And then, once all those are destroyed, and the last few beans used, apparently Ruby still managed to still have one....Somehow. Its never explained at all, despite it being made very clear there were no more magic beans.
** Its stated a few times magic cannot be used to kill people in the spinoff Wonderland show. We then constantly see Jafar use magic to kill several people, and that particular rule is never mentioned again.
** Also, the genie's rules on magic change from the first season of Once, to the first episode of the spinoff show. Given that the rules are automatically known to Genies when they are transformed, and apparently something they spout involuntarily, it seems odd they aren't consistent.
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