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14th Sep '17 9:00:32 PM thecarolinabull01
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*** Lane Toran (then known and credited as Toran Caudell) was the first Arnold on the show proper and only lasted one season in the part (though he subbed in for Philip Van Dyke in the season 2 MusicalEpisode "What's Opera, Arnold?" because Van Dyke wasn't a confident singer). Even after his voice broke, he remained with the show for its entirely as the bully Wolfgang, a role created specifically for him. Due to FirstInstallmentWins, he's often remembered as "the" Arnold by the media - in 2015, a widely-reported story (with pictures!) noted how "the voice of Arnold" was all grown up. Toran is also frequently invited to fan conventions and panels reminiscing about his time on the show, alongside Francesca Marie Smith (who voices Helga).
*** Spencer Klein, unlike both Toran and Philip Van Dyke (who voiced {{One Shot Character}}s Sandy and Ludwig after he was replaced), appeared ''only'' as Arnold and made the most appearances as the Football Head[[note]]He's Arnold for 37 of the show's 100 episodes plus TheMovie, as opposed to 34 for Van Dyke, 26 for Toran, and 3 for Alex D. Linz.[[/note]]. Each of the voice actors portrayed Arnold slightly differently, but Klein's overtly romantic, serious, sensitive, and somewhat exaggerated goody-goody take on the character is how he is usually depicted in {{fanon}}.

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*** Lane Toran (then known and credited as Toran Caudell) was the first Arnold on the show proper proper[[note]]J.D. Daniels voiced him in the pilot, which was only shown in theaters[[/note]] and only lasted one season in the part (though he subbed in for Philip Van Dyke in the season 2 MusicalEpisode "What's Opera, Arnold?" because Van Dyke wasn't a confident singer). Even after his voice broke, he remained with the show for its entirely entirety as the bully Wolfgang, a role created specifically for him. Due to FirstInstallmentWins, he's often remembered as "the" Arnold by the media - in 2015, a widely-reported story (with pictures!) noted how "the voice of Arnold" was all grown up. Toran is also frequently invited to fan conventions and panels reminiscing about his time on the show, alongside Francesca Marie Smith (who voices Helga).
Smith; he even appeared on the official ''Hey Arnold!'' panel at the 2017 SDCC alongside the current Arnold (Mason Vale Cotton), the only past Arnold to do so. He is also returning to provide voice work for ''The Jungle Movie''[[note]]albeit, in an unspecified role since he's too old to play Arnold, though it's possible that he might be able to reprise his role as Wolfgang[[/note]] and is, once again, the ''only'' past Arnold confirmed to make an appearance even though both Phillip Van Dyke and Spencer Klein played the role for longer.
*** Spencer Klein, unlike both Toran and Philip Van Dyke (who later voiced {{One Shot Character}}s Sandy and Ludwig after he was replaced), Ludwig), appeared ''only'' as Arnold (he was replaced very late into the show's run, so Craig Bartlett didn't have time to recast him as somebody else, as he had done for the other two), and made the most appearances as the Football Head[[note]]He's Arnold for 37 of the show's 100 episodes plus TheMovie, as opposed to 34 for Van Dyke, 26 for Toran, and 3 for Alex D. Linz.Linz and one movie for Mason Vale Cotton.[[/note]]. Each of the four voice actors portrayed Arnold slightly differently, but Klein's overtly romantic, serious, sensitive, and somewhat exaggerated goody-goody take on the character is how he is usually depicted in {{fanon}}.
11th Sep '17 4:57:30 AM jormis29
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* Craig Kyle and Christopher Yost created ComicBook/{{X 23}}, but didn't introduce her to the Franchise/MarvelUniverse (she's a CanonImmigrant), putting her in the hands of Creator/JoeQuesada and later Creator/ChrisClaremont, probably with the intention of invoking this trope; when it didn't work, they started writing her themselves. While their take was seen as superior to Quesada's and Claremont's and laid groundwork on the character, it still had its share of problems. It was Marjorie Liu's run on Laura's solo title that definitely did a lot to make fans like a character that had previously (often derisively) been called Girlverine and MarySue.

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* Craig Kyle Creator/CraigKyle and Christopher Yost Creator/ChristopherYost created ComicBook/{{X 23}}, but didn't introduce her to the Franchise/MarvelUniverse (she's a CanonImmigrant), putting her in the hands of Creator/JoeQuesada and later Creator/ChrisClaremont, probably with the intention of invoking this trope; when it didn't work, they started writing her themselves. While their take was seen as superior to Quesada's and Claremont's and laid groundwork on the character, it still had its share of problems. It was Marjorie Liu's run on Laura's solo title that definitely did a lot to make fans like a character that had previously (often derisively) been called Girlverine and MarySue.



** Yost was also this for [[ComicBook/ScarletSpider Kaine]], previously a classic NinetiesAntiHero in the worst way and one of the worse products of the Clone Saga, before returning for a fairly well-received HeroicSacrifice in ''Grim Hunt'', then a return in ''ComicBook/SpiderIsland'' a year later. However, it was Yost who, in his 2012 solo series, made him a grumpy KnightInSourArmour ReluctantHero with a much darker version of Peter's [[DeadpanSnarker snark]], gave him a MoralityPet and a fun supporting cast, explored his past, his differences to Peter, his guilt over his past deeds, particularly his torment of Ben Reilly and his response to, effectively, having been given a second chance, as well as the mystical side-effects of his resurrection. While it was cancelled at issue #25, Yost carried him over to the reboot of ''ComicBook/NewWarriors'' and he remains popular enough to get a key role in ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' and a Scarlet Spider who is almost certainly him (or someone with Kaine's costume, powers and personality - the latter suitably toned down) has a starring role in Season 4 of ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.''

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** Yost was also this for [[ComicBook/ScarletSpider Kaine]], previously a classic NinetiesAntiHero in the worst way and one of the worse products of the Clone Saga, before returning for a fairly well-received HeroicSacrifice in ''Grim Hunt'', then a return in ''ComicBook/SpiderIsland'' a year later. However, it was Yost who, in his [[ComicBook/ScarletSpider2012 2012 solo series, series]], made him a grumpy KnightInSourArmour ReluctantHero with a much darker version of Peter's [[DeadpanSnarker snark]], gave him a MoralityPet and a fun supporting cast, explored his past, his differences to Peter, his guilt over his past deeds, particularly his torment of Ben Reilly and his response to, effectively, having been given a second chance, as well as the mystical side-effects of his resurrection. While it was cancelled at issue #25, Yost carried him over to the reboot of ''ComicBook/NewWarriors'' and he remains popular enough to get a key role in ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' and a Scarlet Spider who is almost certainly him (or someone with Kaine's costume, powers and personality - the latter suitably toned down) has a starring role in Season 4 of ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.''
2nd Sep '17 9:25:21 PM JulianLapostat
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** Creator/BryanSinger wrote, directed, and produced the first two films and he had this reputation and status for the first three films, returning after a hiatus to direct the well-received ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''. The highly divisive ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' directed by Creator/BrettRattner was weakly received for not having Singer at the helm.

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** Creator/BryanSinger wrote, directed, and produced the first two films and he had this reputation and status for the first three films, returning after a hiatus to direct the well-received ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''. The highly divisive ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' directed by Creator/BrettRattner Creator/BrettRatner was weakly received for not having Singer at the helm.
2nd Sep '17 9:24:49 PM JulianLapostat
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* For the ''Film/XMen'' film series, Creator/BryanSinger. The ''X-Men'' movies he directed (or produced, in the case of ''First Class'') are well-received. The others, not so much.

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* For the ''Film/XMen'' film series, Creator/BryanSinger. ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'':
** Creator/BryanSinger wrote, directed, and produced the first two films and he had this reputation and status for the first three films, returning after a hiatus to direct the well-received ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''.
The ''X-Men'' movies he highly divisive ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' directed (or produced, in by Creator/BrettRattner was weakly received for not having Singer at the case helm.
** A lot of fans consider Creator/MatthewVaughn to be this for the later X-Men films. He was the director of ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' which was considered the AuthorsSavingThrow for the franchise, and became the first successful X-Men film ''not'' centered on Wolverine. He also changed the aesthetic of a trilogy that was formerly the TropeMaker and TropeCodifier for MovieSuperheroesWearBlack, introduced a much more humorous and sexy style (even those who liked the first X-Men films pointed out that they were rather overly serious), made the costumes and visual design much more brighter and colourful (giving the First Class team a black and lemon yellow ensemble and setting the finale in broad daylight on the beaches of Cuba). When Singer returned to the franchise, with ''Days of Future Past'', he followed Vaughn's aesthetic, and the success
of ''First Class'') are well-received. The others, not so much.Class'' also led studios to green-light more personal and director-driven takes on the series, and even push to the R-Rating (Vaughn's film was the first superhero film with a PrecisionFStrike), leading to ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' and ''Film/{{Logan}}''.
2nd Sep '17 4:01:54 PM nombretomado
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* While the very first ''VideoGame/StreetFighter'' was planned by "Finish" Hiroshi Matsumoto and "Piston" Takashi Nishiyama, who both left {{Capcom}} and to work for {{SNK}} in many of their early fighting games (including all of ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' games until '99), the ''StreetFighter'' series didn't really take off until ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'', which was planned by Akira "Akiman" Yasuda and Akira "Nin Nin" Nishitani (who both previously worked on the original ''VideoGame/FinalFight''). Afterward, Noritaka "Poo" Funamizu served as the planner for the ''Super'' and ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha Alpha]]'' series, as well as general producer for ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterIII III]]''. Currently, Yoshinori Ono has been serving as the producer for ''Street Fighter'' (and Capcom's fighting games in general) since ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterIV IV]]''.

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* While the very first ''VideoGame/StreetFighter'' was planned by "Finish" Hiroshi Matsumoto and "Piston" Takashi Nishiyama, who both left {{Capcom}} Creator/{{Capcom}} and to work for {{SNK}} in many of their early fighting games (including all of ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' games until '99), the ''StreetFighter'' series didn't really take off until ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'', which was planned by Akira "Akiman" Yasuda and Akira "Nin Nin" Nishitani (who both previously worked on the original ''VideoGame/FinalFight''). Afterward, Noritaka "Poo" Funamizu served as the planner for the ''Super'' and ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha Alpha]]'' series, as well as general producer for ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterIII III]]''. Currently, Yoshinori Ono has been serving as the producer for ''Street Fighter'' (and Capcom's fighting games in general) since ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterIV IV]]''.
2nd Sep '17 3:51:23 PM Vilui
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** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker's origin story in Creator/AlanMoore's ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''. Although Joker was already re-defined as we know him in the 70's, for example by Steve Englehart, the idea of Joker and Batman being ShadowArchetype of OrderVersusChaos (a dynamic transferred to the Franchise/{{DCAU}}, Film/TheDarkKnight and the VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries'') comes from him. Likewise, one can say that Creator/HeathLedger was responsible for Joker's revival as an anarchist nihilist, with only minimal grounding in the clown and show-business motif that had typified him for decades.

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** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker's origin story in Creator/AlanMoore's ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''. Although Joker was already re-defined as we know him in the 70's, 70s, for example by Steve Englehart, the idea of Joker and Batman being ShadowArchetype of OrderVersusChaos (a dynamic transferred to the Franchise/{{DCAU}}, Film/TheDarkKnight and the VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries'') comes from him. Likewise, one can say that Creator/HeathLedger was responsible for Joker's revival as an anarchist nihilist, with only minimal grounding in the clown and show-business motif that had typified him for decades.



** The little research we know about the authorship clarifies that the costumes, visual design and general plots of the early Fantastic Four, Thor, Spider-Man comics were entirely done by Creator/JackKirby and Creator/SteveDitko, while Lee worked on the dialogues and occasionally suggested the plots (i.e. a particular kind of fad and concept which Kirby would flesh out into Galactus, Dr. Doom and other Fantastic Four bad guys) and was heavily involved in the marketing (which is no small thing since without Lee's genius marketing, the comics would not have found the audience demographic, and cultural impact it did at the time). The distinctive rhythm of 60's marvel, the alliterations and the PurpleProse captions are all Lee. Lee himself in early interviews when promoting the Marvel Method (at a time when such practises of stiffing the artist was the unquestioned status-quo and Lee [[FairForItsDay certainly did offer]] and shared more publicity and co-credits than others of his time).

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** The little research we know about the authorship clarifies that the costumes, visual design and general plots of the early Fantastic Four, Thor, Spider-Man comics were entirely done by Creator/JackKirby and Creator/SteveDitko, while Lee worked on the dialogues and occasionally suggested the plots (i.e. a particular kind of fad and concept which Kirby would flesh out into Galactus, Dr. Doom and other Fantastic Four bad guys) and was heavily involved in the marketing (which is no small thing since without Lee's genius marketing, the comics would not have found the audience demographic, and cultural impact it did at the time). The distinctive rhythm of 60's marvel, 60s Marvel, the alliterations and the PurpleProse captions are all Lee. Lee himself in early interviews when promoting the Marvel Method (at a time when such practises of stiffing the artist was the unquestioned status-quo and Lee [[FairForItsDay certainly did offer]] and shared more publicity and co-credits than others of his time).
25th Aug '17 7:12:49 AM Silverblade2
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* Creator/GregWeisman, creator of the Disney ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' series, is an example of the loyalty fans can have to the "real" teller of an ongoing story, when it separates from official sources. When the third season of the show was written largely without his input, altering the tone of the series, fans [[CanonDisContinuity discarded it entirely]], in favor of a short-lived comics-based revival that was written by Weisman and launched from the end of the second season (starting with a comic-transcription of the one third-season episode he DID write).
24th Aug '17 10:36:28 AM JulianLapostat
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** Barks was the creator of Scrooge [=McDuck=], Gladstone Gander, the Beagle Boys, Gyro Gearloose, Magica [=DeSpell=] and the entire supporting cast and RoguesGallery of that world. Only Donald, his Triplets and Daisy Duck were created before by Disney and his animators. And in the case of Donald, one can argue that Barks more or less made him into a three-dimensional character and comics icon since as noted by Creator/ArtSpiegelman, unlike "that short-tempered little thing in the animated cartoons", Barks' Donald had grit, persistence, and a tenacity that were legitimately compelling virtues to mix with his bad luck and other self-destructive qualities, making him a highly relatable, flawed and tragic character, beloved across the world.

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** Barks was the creator of Scrooge [=McDuck=], Gladstone Gander, the Beagle Boys, Gyro Gearloose, Magica [=DeSpell=] and the entire supporting cast and RoguesGallery of that world. Only Donald, his Triplets nephews, and Daisy Duck were created before by Disney and his animators. And in the case of Donald, one can argue that Barks more or less made him into a three-dimensional character and comics icon since as noted by Creator/ArtSpiegelman, unlike "that short-tempered little thing in the animated cartoons", Barks' Donald had grit, persistence, and a tenacity that were legitimately compelling virtues to mix with his bad luck and other self-destructive qualities, making him a highly relatable, flawed and tragic character, beloved across the world.
24th Aug '17 10:23:31 AM Thranx
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** Ryan North and Erica Henderson are latter-day paternity candidates for their work on Squirrel Girl's 2015 series. While both Slott and North portray her as a relentless optimist, Slott's Squirrel Girl is generally a comedic foil in rather dark plots while North's is more earnest, empowering, and child-reader-friendly.
18th Aug '17 9:55:33 AM KrspaceT
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* Discussed by the main writer of ''Fanfic/PokemonResetBloodlines'', noting there are several characters he created to fill plot purposes and nothing much more, like [[TomTheDarkLord 20 Gyarados Bill]], have been flushed out by the side writers extensively and made much more interesting and popular by them.
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