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26th Aug '16 4:43:13 PM pinkdalek
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* ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' was created by Hironobu Sakaguchi, but Yoshinori Kitase was more influential in creating the sort of games people think of as being ''Final Fantasy''. He started as the writer of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' (which got rid of many of the ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' elements and introduced a new form of plot structure that is associated with the series), went on to help write fan-favourites ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' and ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', and then oversaw the next several games as a director while allowing Kazushige Nojima to handle the writing, before getting KickedUpstairs to producer around the time of Sakaguchi's [[CreatorKiller fall from grace]], heralding something of a DorkAge. Even within ''VII'' alone, the ''Compilation'' entry considered by far the best (''VideoGame/CrisisCore'') was the one he was directly involved with writing, and this was something he'd done even though it was unusual for him to be writing at all at that point in his career.

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* ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' was created by Hironobu Sakaguchi, but Yoshinori Kitase was more influential in creating the sort of games people think of as being ''Final Fantasy''. He started as the writer of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' (which got rid of many of the ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' elements and introduced a new form of plot structure that is associated with the series), went on to help write fan-favourites ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' and ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', was the person who decided on the 'cinematic' aesthetic that went on to define the PS1 ''FF'' entries and [[FranchiseOriginalSin the direction of the entire medium of AAA games]], and then oversaw the next several games as a director while allowing his former cowriter Kazushige Nojima to handle the writing, before getting KickedUpstairs to producer around the time of Sakaguchi's [[CreatorKiller fall from grace]], heralding something of a DorkAge. Even within ''VII'' alone, the ''Compilation'' entry considered by far the best (''VideoGame/CrisisCore'') was the one he was directly involved with writing, and this was something he'd done even though it was unusual for him to be writing at all at that point in his career.
25th Aug '16 5:44:30 AM JamesAustin
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* ''Film/TheBourneSeries'': ZigZagged with OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight, one may argue that the Bourne series [[HasTwoMommies has two daddies]] with directors Creator/DougLiman and Creator/PaulGreengrass. With ''The Bourne Identity'', Liman gave the film a unique style, but it was Greengrass who would flesh it out in its sequels ''The Bourne Supremacy'' and ''The Bourne Ultimatum'', with Liman still involved as executive producer, garnering even greater acclaim. But when Greengrass turned down the offer to direct ''The Bourne Legacy'', Creator/MattDamon left with him, saying he wouldn't do any more movies without him, and Liman left too. This is part of why ''Legacy'' hasn't been as well-received as its predecessors.
** Though it should be noted that Tony Gilroy wrote all four films (and directed Legacy). It seems to go both ways, too: though Greengrass returned to direct the fifth film, ''Jason Bourne'' with Matt Damon coming back, this time around Gilroy was not involved at all, and it likewise was also not as well received as the first three films.

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* ''Film/TheBourneSeries'': ZigZagged with OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight, one may argue that the Bourne series [[HasTwoMommies has two daddies]] with directors Creator/DougLiman and Creator/PaulGreengrass. With ''The Bourne Identity'', Liman gave the film a unique style, but it was Greengrass who would flesh it out in its sequels ''The Bourne Supremacy'' and ''The Bourne Ultimatum'', with Liman still involved as executive producer, garnering even greater acclaim. But when Greengrass turned down the offer to direct ''The Bourne Legacy'', Creator/MattDamon left with him, saying he wouldn't do any more movies without him, and Liman left too. This is part of why ''Legacy'' hasn't been as well-received as its predecessors.
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predecessors. Though it should be noted that Tony Gilroy wrote all four films (and directed Legacy).''Legacy''). It seems to go both ways, too: though Greengrass returned to direct the fifth film, ''Jason Bourne'' with Matt Damon coming back, this time around Gilroy was not involved at all, and it likewise was also not as well received as the first three films.
25th Aug '16 5:44:05 AM JamesAustin
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* ''Film/TheBourneSeries'': ZigZagged with OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight, one may argue that the Bourne series [[HasTwoMommies has two daddies]] with directors Doug Liman and Paul Greengrass. With ''The Bourne Identity'', Liman gave the film a unique style, but it was Greengrass who would flesh it out in its sequels ''The Bourne Supremacy'' and ''The Bourne Ultimatum'', with Liman still involved as executive producer, garnering even greater acclaim. But when Greengrass turned down the offer to direct ''The Bourne Legacy'', Creator/MattDamon left with him, saying he wouldn't do any more movies without him, and Liman left too. This is part of why ''Legacy'' hasn't been as well-received as its predecessors.

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* ''Film/TheBourneSeries'': ZigZagged with OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight, one may argue that the Bourne series [[HasTwoMommies has two daddies]] with directors Doug Liman Creator/DougLiman and Paul Greengrass.Creator/PaulGreengrass. With ''The Bourne Identity'', Liman gave the film a unique style, but it was Greengrass who would flesh it out in its sequels ''The Bourne Supremacy'' and ''The Bourne Ultimatum'', with Liman still involved as executive producer, garnering even greater acclaim. But when Greengrass turned down the offer to direct ''The Bourne Legacy'', Creator/MattDamon left with him, saying he wouldn't do any more movies without him, and Liman left too. This is part of why ''Legacy'' hasn't been as well-received as its predecessors.
21st Aug '16 6:49:31 PM ElectroKraken
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* While the bulk of the WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat franchise up to the TV shorts attributes Felix as a creation of cartoonist Pat Sullivan, almost everybody today recognizes Creator/OttoMessmer as the real person behind Felix's creation and success, especially once information came to light that Sullivan had virtually nothing to do with making the Felix cartoons and was barely ever present at his own studio. The credits for ''The Twisted Tales of Felix'' go as far as to credit both Otto Messmer ''and'' Joe Oriolo as the creators of Felix, but [[UnPerson completely leaves out mentioning Pat Sullivan]].

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* While the bulk of the WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat franchise up to the TV shorts attributes Felix as a creation of cartoonist Pat Sullivan, almost everybody today recognizes Creator/OttoMessmer as the real person behind Felix's creation and success, especially once information came to light that Sullivan had virtually nothing to do with making the Felix cartoons and was barely ever present at his own studio. The credits for ''The Twisted Tales of Felix'' ''WesternAnimation/TheTwistedTalesOfFelixTheCat'' go as far as to credit both Otto Messmer ''and'' Joe Oriolo as the creators of Felix, but [[UnPerson completely leaves out mentioning Pat Sullivan]].
18th Aug '16 2:11:22 PM MisterCPC
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** Though it should be noted that Tony Gilroy wrote all four films (and directed Legacy).

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** Though it should be noted that Tony Gilroy wrote all four films (and directed Legacy). It seems to go both ways, too: though Greengrass returned to direct the fifth film, ''Jason Bourne'' with Matt Damon coming back, this time around Gilroy was not involved at all, and it likewise was also not as well received as the first three films.
8th Aug '16 11:00:01 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* {{Creator/Bungie}} Studios created the foundation for the ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'' series but it was Eric Nylund's ''Literature/HaloTheFallOfReach'' that expanded its universe. The Retcons that began to come about from ''VideoGame/HaloWars'' and ''VideoGame/HaloReach'' caused a good segment of fans to cry foul over negating ''[=FoR=]'''s continuity. There's still favoritism towards Bungie's end, though, now that 343 Industries owns the series.

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* {{Creator/Bungie}} Studios created the foundation for the ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'' series series, but it was Eric Nylund's ''Literature/HaloTheFallOfReach'' that expanded its universe. The Retcons retcons that began to come about from ''VideoGame/HaloWars'' and ''VideoGame/HaloReach'' later, particularly in ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', caused a good segment of fans to cry foul over negating ''[=FoR=]'''s parts of the Nylund books' continuity. There's still favoritism towards Bungie's end, though, now that 343 Industries Creator/ThreeFourThreeIndustries owns the series.
6th Aug '16 2:04:10 PM TargetmasterJoe
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** Starting right at the beginning, Creator/BillFinger actually did ''far'' more to create Franchise/{{Batman}} himself than his more famous boss, Bob Kane (who ''did'' came up with the name). It was Finger who invented the idea of Batman as a detective, the design of the costume, the Bruce Wayne identity and origin, Robin and the RoguesGallery: Catwoman, the Joker and the name "Gotham City". The number of UnbuiltTrope in the original comics, Joker's original unfunny characterization, greater violence, Batman's overall harshness, means that it remains a touchstone for later writers, with Finger's stories being ArmedWithCanon by Creator/AlanMoore and Creator/GrantMorrison.

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** Starting right at the beginning, Creator/BillFinger actually did ''far'' more to create Franchise/{{Batman}} himself than his more famous boss, Bob Kane (who ''did'' came come up with the name). It was Finger who invented the idea of Batman as a detective, the design of the costume, the Bruce Wayne identity and origin, Robin and the RoguesGallery: Catwoman, the Joker and the name "Gotham City". The number of UnbuiltTrope in the original comics, Joker's original unfunny characterization, greater violence, Batman's overall harshness, means that it remains a touchstone for later writers, with Finger's stories being ArmedWithCanon by Creator/AlanMoore and Creator/GrantMorrison.



** These days, DC clearly ''intends'' for Brian Azzarello's take to be definitive from here on (particularly given that his origin will be used for the [[Film/DCCinematicUniverse live-action films]]). The ComicBook/{{New 52}} Wonder Woman has been a bit divisive, though, so it may be some time before we find out how fully the fans have embraced the new direction.

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** These days, DC clearly ''intends'' for Brian Azzarello's take to be definitive from here on (particularly given that his origin will be used for the [[Film/DCCinematicUniverse [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse live-action films]]). The ComicBook/{{New 52}} Wonder Woman has been a bit divisive, though, so it may be some time before we find out how fully the fans have embraced the new direction.



** Meanwhile IDW's ''[[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW Transformers]]'' continuity began under Furman's pen and was built on by Shane Mccarthy and Mike Costa when his run was CutShort. However it was the combined work of James Roberts and John Barber who pulled the verse out of a lengthy DorkAge and redefined the series with their critically acclaimed books, ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' and ''ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise''. They singlehandedly transformed the IDW comics from a franchise footnote to one of the most acclaimed comics in years.

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** Meanwhile IDW's ''[[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW Transformers]]'' continuity began under Furman's pen and was built on by Shane Mccarthy and Mike Costa when his run was CutShort. However it was the combined work of James Roberts and John Barber who pulled the verse out of a lengthy DorkAge and redefined the series with their critically acclaimed books, ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' and ''ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise''. They singlehandedly transformed [[{{Pun}} transformed]] the IDW comics from a franchise footnote to one of the most acclaimed comics in years.



* For many fans, the original ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'' series is the only canon one, as it was the only one actually produced by the creators, Creator/ManOfActionStudios. The various sequels (''WesternAnimation/WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'', ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'', ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse''), headed by the likes of Glen Murakami, the late Creator/DwayneMcDuffie, Matt Youngberg, and Derrick Wyatt, are shunned. There are also many others who prefer Murakami and [=McDuffie=]'s two entries (''Alien Force'', ''Ultimate Alien'') into the franchise due to the DarkerAndEdgier tone and the characters aging, and were outraged when the ''Omniverse'' fell into the hands of others and became LighterAndSofter (even when compared to the original series) and DenserAndWackier than any of the previous three, and thus dissociate it.

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* For many fans, the original ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'' series is the only canon one, as it was the only one actually produced by the creators, Creator/ManOfActionStudios. The various sequels (''WesternAnimation/WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'', (''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'', ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'', ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse''), headed by the likes of Glen Murakami, the late Creator/DwayneMcDuffie, Matt Youngberg, and Derrick Wyatt, are shunned. There are also many others who prefer Murakami and [=McDuffie=]'s two entries (''Alien Force'', ''Ultimate Alien'') into the franchise due to the DarkerAndEdgier tone and the characters aging, and were outraged when the ''Omniverse'' fell into the hands of others and became LighterAndSofter (even when compared to the original series) and DenserAndWackier than any of the previous three, and thus dissociate it.
2nd Aug '16 5:48:11 AM Prinzenick
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* While the bulk of the WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat franchise up to the TV shorts attributes Felix as a creation of cartoonist Pat Sullivan, almost everybody today recognizes Creator/OttoMessmer as the real person behind Felix's creation and success, especially once information came to light that Sullivan had virtually nothing to do with making the Felix cartoons and was barely ever present at his own studio. The credits for ''The Twisted Tales of Felix'' go as far as to credit both Otto Messmer ''and'' Joe Oriolo as the creators of Felix, but [[UnPerson completely leaves out mentioning Pat Sullivan]].
24th Jul '16 5:20:36 AM Anddrix
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** These days, DC clearly ''intends'' for Brian Azzarello's take to be definitive from here on (particularly given that his origin will be used for the [[Film/DCCinematicUniverse live-action films]]). The ComicBook/{{New 52}} Wonder Woman has been a bit of a BaseBreaker, though, so it may be some time before we find out how fully the fans have embraced the new direction.

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** These days, DC clearly ''intends'' for Brian Azzarello's take to be definitive from here on (particularly given that his origin will be used for the [[Film/DCCinematicUniverse live-action films]]). The ComicBook/{{New 52}} Wonder Woman has been a bit of a BaseBreaker, divisive, though, so it may be some time before we find out how fully the fans have embraced the new direction.



* Speaking of Creator/BrianMichaelBendis, while the character can be [[BaseBreaker polarizing]], ComicBook/LukeCage has become more of a mainstream character under his pen.

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* Speaking of Creator/BrianMichaelBendis, while the character can be [[BaseBreaker polarizing]], polarizing, ComicBook/LukeCage has become more of a mainstream character under his pen.



* Creator/JJAbrams is considered this to the ''Film/MissionImpossible'' series. The first film, while for the most part well-liked is a BaseBreaker for fans of the original show and the second falls under a case of {{Sequelitis}} for many. Abrams took over, first as director and co-writer for the third film and as producer for the subsequent sequels, and thanks to throwing in major set pieces while also mixing in some character development while focusing on the team's entire ensemble instead of just Tom Cruise successfully transformed the franchise into the mega-hit it is with critics and audiences.

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* Creator/JJAbrams is considered this to the ''Film/MissionImpossible'' series. The first film, while for the most part well-liked is a BaseBreaker divisive for fans of the original show and the second falls under a case of {{Sequelitis}} for many. Abrams took over, first as director and co-writer for the third film and as producer for the subsequent sequels, and thanks to throwing in major set pieces while also mixing in some character development while focusing on the team's entire ensemble instead of just Tom Cruise successfully transformed the franchise into the mega-hit it is with critics and audiences.
10th Jul '16 2:17:39 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* While Shouzou Uehara was the original head writer of ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' and the franchise was conceived by ShotaroIshinomori, Hirohisa Soda was responsible for it GrowingTheBeard in [[Series/DengekiSentaiChangeman 1985]] and then keeping its beard for years. Soda was head writer of every ''Super Sentai'' series from [[Series/DaiSentaiGoggleFive 1982]] to [[Series/ChikyuuSentaiFiveman 1990]], and the shows of 1985-1990 are widely considered to be ''the'' definitive ''Super Sentai'', far more than Uehara's shows.

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* While Shouzou Uehara was the original head writer of ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' and the franchise was conceived by ShotaroIshinomori, Creator/ShotaroIshinomori, Hirohisa Soda was responsible for it GrowingTheBeard in [[Series/DengekiSentaiChangeman 1985]] and then keeping its beard for years. Soda was head writer of every ''Super Sentai'' series from [[Series/DaiSentaiGoggleFive 1982]] to [[Series/ChikyuuSentaiFiveman 1990]], and the shows of 1985-1990 are widely considered to be ''the'' definitive ''Super Sentai'', far more than Uehara's shows.
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