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13th Apr '18 7:24:39 AM Njein
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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': In an alternate universe of the DCU, although ComicBook/TheJoker [[KickTheSonOfABitch was killed off early]] in the game by a grieving Superman for tricking him into killing his wife Lois and nuking Metropolis, the MonsterClown certainly had the last laugh as his VillainousLegacy of causing Superman's [[FaceHeelTurn road to hell]] and the subsequent fallout in later years has slowly led to the collapse of everything good in the DCU in many ways: [[HowTheMightyHaveFallen the Justice League is no longer what it used to be]], [[WeUsedToBeFriends Superman and Batman hating each other]], and [[MurderByInaction the deaths of many]] who tried to stop Superman. Ironically, [[BatmanGambit this is precisely what]] [[GreaterScopeVillain the Joker]] [[ThanatosGambit ultimately intended, including the part where it got him killed]]: to prove that anybody can be easily [[NotSoDifferent brought down to his level]] if they had "a really bad day" in his twisted StrawNihilist mindset. It was all done ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe. Things haven't much in [[VideoGame/Injustice2 the sequel]], as even though he's DeadAllAlong in the game and only appears as a Fear Toxin-induced hallucination to Harley Quinn in chapter 2, he still haunts everybody even from beyond the grave, and certain pre-match intros show that ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards even villains such as Gorilla Grodd, Brainiac and Darkseid of all people]]'' [[HateSink despise him]] for what he [[MoralEventHorizon did to Superman.]] [[SmallRoleBigImpact He may have had a small role in both games]], but the impact he left can never be forgotten.

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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': In an alternate universe of the DCU, although ComicBook/TheJoker [[KickTheSonOfABitch was killed off early]] in the game by a grieving Superman for tricking him into killing his wife Lois and nuking Metropolis, the MonsterClown certainly had the last laugh as his VillainousLegacy of causing Superman's [[FaceHeelTurn road to hell]] and the subsequent fallout in later years has slowly led to the collapse of everything good in the DCU in many ways: [[HowTheMightyHaveFallen the Justice League League]] [[BreakingTheFellowship is no longer what it used to be]], [[WeUsedToBeFriends Superman and Batman hating each other]], and [[MurderByInaction the deaths of many]] who tried to stop Superman. Ironically, [[BatmanGambit this is precisely what]] [[GreaterScopeVillain the Joker]] [[ThanatosGambit ultimately intended, including the part where it got him killed]]: to prove that anybody can be easily [[NotSoDifferent brought down to his level]] if they had "a really bad day" in his twisted StrawNihilist mindset. It was all done ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe. Things haven't much in [[VideoGame/Injustice2 the sequel]], as even though he's DeadAllAlong in the game and only appears as a Fear Toxin-induced hallucination to Harley Quinn in chapter 2, he still haunts everybody even from beyond the grave, and certain pre-match intros show that ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards even villains such as Gorilla Grodd, Brainiac and Darkseid of all people]]'' [[HateSink despise him]] for what he [[MoralEventHorizon did to Superman.]] [[SmallRoleBigImpact He may have had a small role in both games]], but the impact he left can never be forgotten. Worse still, Doctor Fate notes that the Joker's scheme worked so well that it's causing [[OrderIsNotGood the Lords or Order]] to give up on humanity and back Brainiac's invasion, believing that he'll restore order, despite knowing what the Coluan has stored for Earth. Fate also warns that if the infighting between Batman and Superman keeps on going, then the Lords will back an even bigger threat.
22nd Mar '18 8:01:51 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Protagonists are also capable of doing this, but more often than not those are just undertakings that are [[HeroicSacrifice considered suicide]] and not part of some master scheme. If anyone on the hero side pulls this off, it will probably be TheMentor, complete with an ObiWanMoment.

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Protagonists Heroes are also capable of doing this, but more often than not those are just undertakings that are [[HeroicSacrifice considered suicide]] and not part of some master scheme. If anyone on the hero side pulls this off, it will probably be TheMentor, complete with an ObiWanMoment.



Compare SuicideByCop, in which dying is the goal and not a step. It usually also makes [[FaceDeathWithDignity Facing Death With Dignity]] a little easier. Also compare/contrast ThanatosGambit, in which the villain or hero's death is the final part of a complex plan. These two often overlap, though, due to the nature of both schemes. It can also overlap with VillainousLegacy. Take into consideration NiceJobBreakingItHero as well (when either the hero kills the villain without considering the consequences, or does it anyway despite the warnings of what might happen). Is frequently the motivation for/preceded by "StrikeMeDown."

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Compare SuicideByCop, in which dying is the goal and not a step. It usually also makes [[FaceDeathWithDignity Facing Death With Dignity]] a little easier. Also compare/contrast ThanatosGambit, in which the villain or hero's death is the final part of a complex plan. These two often overlap, though, due to the nature of both schemes. It can also overlap with VillainousLegacy. Take into consideration NiceJobBreakingItHero as well (when either the hero kills the villain without considering the consequences, or does it anyway despite the warnings of what might happen). Is frequently the motivation for/preceded by "StrikeMeDown."



* Dewey Novak in ''Anime/EurekaSeven''.
4th Mar '18 9:13:50 PM nombretomado
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* ''SuicideForHire'': One client wanted to die because of the constant harassment after he was involved in a classmate's accidental death by alcohol poisoning. Hunter helped him assemble evidence of every instance of harassment (copies of the threatening letters and emails, photos of the defacement of his dorm room, etc), resulting in lawsuits between both sets of grieving parents after the suicide was completed.

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* ''SuicideForHire'': ''Webcomic/SuicideForHire'': One client wanted to die because of the constant harassment after he was involved in a classmate's accidental death by alcohol poisoning. Hunter helped him assemble evidence of every instance of harassment (copies of the threatening letters and emails, photos of the defacement of his dorm room, etc), resulting in lawsuits between both sets of grieving parents after the suicide was completed.
27th Feb '18 10:32:20 AM Njein
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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': In an alternate universe of the DCU, although ComicBook/TheJoker [[KickTheSonOfABitch was killed off early]] in the game by a grieving Superman for tricking him into killing his wife Lois and nuking Metropolis, the MonsterClown certainly had the last laugh as his VillainousLegacy of causing Superman's [[FaceHeelTurn road to hell]] and the subsequent fallout in later years has slowly led to the collapse of everything good in the DCU in many ways: the Justice League is no longer what it used to be, Superman hating Batman and vice versa, and the deaths of many who tried to stop Superman. Ironically, [[BatmanGambit this is precisely what]] [[GreaterScopeVillain the Joker]] [[ThanatosGambit ultimately intended, including the part where it got him killed]]: to prove that anybody can be easily [[NotSoDifferent brought down to his level]] if they had "a really bad day" in his twisted StrawNihilist mindset. It was all done ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe. Things haven't much in [[VideoGame/Injustice2 the sequel]], as even though he's DeadAllAlong in the game and only appears as a Fear Toxin-induced hallucination to Harley Quinn in chapter 2, he still haunts everybody even from beyond the grave, and certain pre-match intros show that ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards even villains such as Gorilla Grodd, Brainiac and Darkseid of all people]]'' [[HateSink despise him]] for what he [[MoralEventHorizon did to Superman.]] [[SmallRoleBigImpact He may have had a small role in both games]], but the impact he left can never be forgotten.

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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': In an alternate universe of the DCU, although ComicBook/TheJoker [[KickTheSonOfABitch was killed off early]] in the game by a grieving Superman for tricking him into killing his wife Lois and nuking Metropolis, the MonsterClown certainly had the last laugh as his VillainousLegacy of causing Superman's [[FaceHeelTurn road to hell]] and the subsequent fallout in later years has slowly led to the collapse of everything good in the DCU in many ways: [[HowTheMightyHaveFallen the Justice League is no longer what it used to be, be]], [[WeUsedToBeFriends Superman and Batman hating Batman each other]], and vice versa, and [[MurderByInaction the deaths of many many]] who tried to stop Superman. Ironically, [[BatmanGambit this is precisely what]] [[GreaterScopeVillain the Joker]] [[ThanatosGambit ultimately intended, including the part where it got him killed]]: to prove that anybody can be easily [[NotSoDifferent brought down to his level]] if they had "a really bad day" in his twisted StrawNihilist mindset. It was all done ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe. Things haven't much in [[VideoGame/Injustice2 the sequel]], as even though he's DeadAllAlong in the game and only appears as a Fear Toxin-induced hallucination to Harley Quinn in chapter 2, he still haunts everybody even from beyond the grave, and certain pre-match intros show that ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards even villains such as Gorilla Grodd, Brainiac and Darkseid of all people]]'' [[HateSink despise him]] for what he [[MoralEventHorizon did to Superman.]] [[SmallRoleBigImpact He may have had a small role in both games]], but the impact he left can never be forgotten.
24th Feb '18 8:44:35 PM jormis29
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* ''Film/{{Rampage}}'': Mass murderer/terrorist Bill Williamson orchestrates several massacres while releasing viral videos urging people to cause violence all over the world. He's finally killed by the end of the third movie after a massive manhunt, but more chaos erupts after his death since more people are shown going on massacres.

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* ''Film/{{Rampage}}'': ''Film/{{Rampage|2009}}'': Mass murderer/terrorist Bill Williamson orchestrates several massacres while releasing viral videos urging people to cause violence all over the world. He's finally killed by the end of the third movie after a massive manhunt, but more chaos erupts after his death since more people are shown going on massacres.
22nd Feb '18 6:57:56 AM Njein
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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': In an alternate universe of the DCU, although ComicBook/TheJoker was killed off early by a grieving Superman for tricking him into killing his wife Lois and nuking Metropolis, the MonsterClown certainly had the last laugh as his VillainousLegacy of causing Superman's FaceHeelTurn and the subsequent fallout in later years has slowly led to the collapse of everything good in the DCU in many ways: the Justice League is no longer what it used to be, Superman hating Batman and vice versa, and the deaths of many superheroes who tried to stop Superman. Ironically, this is what [[GreaterScopeVillain the Joker]] ultimately intended: to prove that even the most pure of souls can be easily tarnished and [[NotSoDifferent brought down to his level]] if they had "a really bad day" in his StrawNihilist mindset. It hasn't healed much in [[VideoGame/Injustice2 the sequel]], as even though he's DeadAllAlong in the game and only appears as a Fear Toxin-induced hallucination to Harley in chapter 2, he still haunts everybody even from beyond the grave, and certain pre-match intros show that [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the villains]] [[HateSink despise him]] for what he [[MoralEventHorizon did to Superman.]] [[SmallRoleBigImpact He may have had a small role in both games]], but the impact he left can never be forgotten.

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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': In an alternate universe of the DCU, although ComicBook/TheJoker [[KickTheSonOfABitch was killed off early early]] in the game by a grieving Superman for tricking him into killing his wife Lois and nuking Metropolis, the MonsterClown certainly had the last laugh as his VillainousLegacy of causing Superman's FaceHeelTurn [[FaceHeelTurn road to hell]] and the subsequent fallout in later years has slowly led to the collapse of everything good in the DCU in many ways: the Justice League is no longer what it used to be, Superman hating Batman and vice versa, and the deaths of many superheroes who tried to stop Superman. Ironically, [[BatmanGambit this is what precisely what]] [[GreaterScopeVillain the Joker]] [[ThanatosGambit ultimately intended: intended, including the part where it got him killed]]: to prove that even the most pure of souls anybody can be easily tarnished and [[NotSoDifferent brought down to his level]] if they had "a really bad day" in his twisted StrawNihilist mindset. It hasn't healed was all done ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe. Things haven't much in [[VideoGame/Injustice2 the sequel]], as even though he's DeadAllAlong in the game and only appears as a Fear Toxin-induced hallucination to Harley Quinn in chapter 2, he still haunts everybody even from beyond the grave, and certain pre-match intros show that [[EvenEvilHasStandards ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards even the villains]] villains such as Gorilla Grodd, Brainiac and Darkseid of all people]]'' [[HateSink despise him]] for what he [[MoralEventHorizon did to Superman.]] [[SmallRoleBigImpact He may have had a small role in both games]], but the impact he left can never be forgotten.
22nd Feb '18 6:52:26 AM Njein
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Scrapland}}'', The Archbishop of Chimera is the first in a string of murders of Chimera's most influenteial citizens.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Scrapland}}'', The Archbishop of Chimera is the first in a string of murders of Chimera's most influenteial citizens.influential citizens.
* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': In an alternate universe of the DCU, although ComicBook/TheJoker was killed off early by a grieving Superman for tricking him into killing his wife Lois and nuking Metropolis, the MonsterClown certainly had the last laugh as his VillainousLegacy of causing Superman's FaceHeelTurn and the subsequent fallout in later years has slowly led to the collapse of everything good in the DCU in many ways: the Justice League is no longer what it used to be, Superman hating Batman and vice versa, and the deaths of many superheroes who tried to stop Superman. Ironically, this is what [[GreaterScopeVillain the Joker]] ultimately intended: to prove that even the most pure of souls can be easily tarnished and [[NotSoDifferent brought down to his level]] if they had "a really bad day" in his StrawNihilist mindset. It hasn't healed much in [[VideoGame/Injustice2 the sequel]], as even though he's DeadAllAlong in the game and only appears as a Fear Toxin-induced hallucination to Harley in chapter 2, he still haunts everybody even from beyond the grave, and certain pre-match intros show that [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the villains]] [[HateSink despise him]] for what he [[MoralEventHorizon did to Superman.]] [[SmallRoleBigImpact He may have had a small role in both games]], but the impact he left can never be forgotten.
29th Jan '18 3:47:51 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': [[OmnicidalManiac Judge Death]] was already an insane HangingJudge when he was alive. His goal of destroying his entire homeworld in the name of justice required him to die and then be resurrected through dark magic as a zombie, partly so he would become an unstoppable menace, and partly because "kill everyone" would just have been hypocritical if he didn't.

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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': The supervillain [[OmnicidalManiac Judge Death]] was already an insane HangingJudge when he was alive. His goal of destroying his entire homeworld in the name of justice required him to die and then be resurrected through dark magic as a zombie, partly so he would become an unstoppable menace, and partly because "kill everyone" would just have been hypocritical if he didn't.
27th Jan '18 5:18:50 PM nombretomado
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* While not exactly his plan, the Master in the new ''Series/DoctorWho'' series creates a cult devoted to himself and leaves specific instructions on what to do in case he is killed. After he is shot by his wife, he chooses not to regenerate so as not to end up the Doctor's prisoner, and because he knows his followers will bring him back to life. Unfortunately for him, his resurrection is sabotaged by his wife, which causes him to [[CameBackWrong Come Back Wrong]]. Worse, this all may have been a GambitRoulette of [[strike:TimothyDalton]] the Time Lords.

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* While not exactly his plan, the Master in the new ''Series/DoctorWho'' series creates a cult devoted to himself and leaves specific instructions on what to do in case he is killed. After he is shot by his wife, he chooses not to regenerate so as not to end up the Doctor's prisoner, and because he knows his followers will bring him back to life. Unfortunately for him, his resurrection is sabotaged by his wife, which causes him to [[CameBackWrong Come Back Wrong]]. Worse, this all may have been a GambitRoulette of [[strike:TimothyDalton]] [[strike:Creator/TimothyDalton]] the Time Lords.
19th Jan '18 8:55:21 AM Derkhan
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* In ''Literature/TollTheHounds'', book eight of Steven Erikson's ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', Anomander Rake and the God of Death Hood both sacrifice themselves in order to free the world within Dragnipur and reconcile the Tiste Andii with Mother Dark.

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* In ''Literature/TollTheHounds'', book eight of Steven Erikson's Creator/StevenErikson's ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', has a non-villainous, HeroicSacrifice case that involves ''two'' people. As part of a GambitRoulette, [[TheGrimReaper the Lord of Death Hood]] and WarriorPrince Anomander Rake set up their own deaths, the first being beheaded by the second and the God second staging an ILetYouWin DuelToTheDeath. It allows [[{{Psychopomp}} for Death's face to change]], but more importantly to end the existence of Death Hood both sacrifice themselves in order the [[YourSoulIsMine soul-sucking sword Dragnipur]], to free the world within Dragnipur Gate of Darkness and reconcile the Tiste Andii with for Mother Dark.Dark to return to her children.
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