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21st Sep '16 7:16:23 AM freefall4242
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*** Potentially {{Justified}}: The wizarding community rarely gathers in such numbers, so infrastructure to accommodate that many wouldn't be needed as often. Plus, the whole thing has to be in secret, necessitating powerful, possibly complex magic to keep Muggles away.
12th Sep '16 1:10:40 AM Eagal
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** In Book 4 it's mentioned that entire sections of the Ministry of Magic are derailed by the Quidditch World Cup, with their logistical abilities struggling to accommodate 10,000+ wizards, when there a dozen muggle stadiums that can hold ten times that number.
6th Sep '16 10:01:10 AM AtticusOmundson
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* In ''Series/OnceUponATime'', after getting a taste of the comforts the modern town of Storybrooke has to offer (television, air-conditioning, indoor plumbing, etc.), the fairytale residents find themselves vastly preferring it to the medieval setting of the Enchanted Forest where they originally hail from. Also acts as a case of IChooseToStay.
23rd Aug '16 3:32:02 PM ThatBitterTase
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** That said, some of the sourcebooks mention ways to get around this. One Legacy in ''Legacies: The Sublime'', the Transhumanist Engineers, have a little game they play: they use magic to build an Imbued device (something that doesn't set off the Lie), which works just a tad better than what we have now, and show it off to Sleepers. And then mention they ''really'' hope nobody beats them to market. After that they just sit back and wait for the viciously-competitive tech sector to figure out how to do it. If the muggles can't do it better ''now'', give them a little push.
17th Aug '16 7:56:19 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Sometimes the usefulness of {{Muggle|s}} methods will be a big part of the story, like Van Helsing using modern scientific methods against vampires in ''Film/{{Dracula 1931}}''. Other times supernatural abilities and Muggle abilities will be kept largely separate thanks to the {{Masquerade}}, but when they do intersect the superiority/equality of Muggle methods will be clear. And then there are some stories where it's clear the writers didn't really think about what ordinary people could contribute, or TheyJustDidntCare, but [[FridgeLogic the fans certainly will]].

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Sometimes the usefulness of {{Muggle|s}} methods will be a big part of the story, like Van Helsing using modern scientific methods against vampires in ''Film/{{Dracula 1931}}''. Other times supernatural abilities and Muggle abilities will be kept largely separate thanks to the {{Masquerade}}, but when they do intersect the superiority/equality of Muggle methods will be clear. And then there are some stories where it's clear the writers didn't really think about what ordinary people could contribute, or TheyJustDidntCare, but [[FridgeLogic the fans certainly will]].
11th Aug '16 11:31:38 AM Schismatism
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* In ''HarryPotterAndTheNightmaresOfFuturePast'', this is toyed with from time to time. For example, Harry finds an (enchanted) firearm in Arthur Weasley's study, which [[CheckhovsGun he quickly divests of his guardian]] on the grounds that [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace Arthur put the gun to his own head]] and ''squeezed the trigger''. (Thankfully, tragedy was averted for that point.) Also, later on, the Weasley twins decide to consult Harry on ''mundane'' pranking methods, reasoning that in the Wizarding World, everybody's on the lookout for a cursed handkerchief, but nobody's likely to notice a bucket above the door.

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* In ''HarryPotterAndTheNightmaresOfFuturePast'', ''HarryPotterAndTheNightmaresOfFuturesPast'', this is toyed with from time to time. For example, Harry finds an (enchanted) firearm in Arthur Weasley's study, which [[CheckhovsGun [[ChekhovsGun he quickly divests of his guardian]] on the grounds that [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace Arthur put the gun to his own head]] and ''squeezed the trigger''. (Thankfully, tragedy was averted for that point.) Also, later on, the Weasley twins decide to consult Harry on ''mundane'' pranking methods, reasoning that in the Wizarding World, everybody's on the lookout for a cursed handkerchief, but nobody's likely to notice a bucket above the door.
11th Aug '16 11:29:13 AM Schismatism
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** Harry also brings certain Muggle school supplies with him, such as pens, paper, and the like. These turn out to have a remarkably strong following amongst the students, especially Muggleborns, to the point where the professors grow frustrated trying to guess how many words, say, '12 inches on hazelwort' would be.


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* In ''HarryPotterAndTheNightmaresOfFuturePast'', this is toyed with from time to time. For example, Harry finds an (enchanted) firearm in Arthur Weasley's study, which [[CheckhovsGun he quickly divests of his guardian]] on the grounds that [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace Arthur put the gun to his own head]] and ''squeezed the trigger''. (Thankfully, tragedy was averted for that point.) Also, later on, the Weasley twins decide to consult Harry on ''mundane'' pranking methods, reasoning that in the Wizarding World, everybody's on the lookout for a cursed handkerchief, but nobody's likely to notice a bucket above the door.
11th Aug '16 6:00:29 AM AtticusOmundson
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---->'''Mr. Weasley:''' Trains! Underground! Ingenious these Muggles!
24th Jul '16 7:00:56 AM TheNerfGuy
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* ''Franchise/{{Shadowchasers}}'' seems to take this on a muggle-by-muggle basis. In an early chapter of ''Fanfic/ShadowchasersConspiracy'', the Trope is defied when a dark elf priestess gets tired of her ally (a foul-mouthed mobster) mocking her and Shadows in general, when he tells her, to paraphrase, one man with a gun could defeat an army of Shadows on their own turf. She tells him to prove it by ''giving'' him a loaded weapon and daring him to shoot her. All he gets is the scare of his life when the gun proves as ineffective as a toy against her magical wards, and she briefly drops the act she typically uses among humans. On the other hand, [[VideoGame/DarkStalkers B.B. Hood]] (yes, [[SpecialGuest that one]] who appears in the same fanfic has no known supernatural powers, and has killed two named characters thus far, both of them {{Mauve Shirt}}s, becoming a potent KnightOfCerebus for the series.

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* ''Franchise/{{Shadowchasers}}'' The ''FanFic/ShadowchasersSeries'' seems to take this on a muggle-by-muggle basis. In an early chapter of ''Fanfic/ShadowchasersConspiracy'', the Trope is defied when a dark elf priestess gets tired of her ally (a foul-mouthed mobster) mocking her and Shadows in general, when he tells her, to paraphrase, one man with a gun could defeat an army of Shadows on their own turf. She tells him to prove it by ''giving'' him a loaded weapon and daring him to shoot her. All he gets is the scare of his life when the gun proves as ineffective as a toy against her magical wards, and she briefly drops the act she typically uses among humans. On the other hand, [[VideoGame/DarkStalkers B.B. Hood]] (yes, [[SpecialGuest that one]] who appears in the same fanfic has no known supernatural powers, and has killed two named characters thus far, both of them {{Mauve Shirt}}s, becoming a potent KnightOfCerebus for the series.
22nd Jul '16 7:25:46 PM doorhandle
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** Shown clearly in [[https://youtu.be/3xQFo9-RcFw?t=12 It Came From Tumblr 3:]]

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** * Shown clearly in [[https://youtu.be/3xQFo9-RcFw?t=12 It Came From Tumblr 3:]]



-->'''Knight!Medic:'''The fuck's a gun-''BLAM''

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-->'''Knight!Medic:'''The fuck's a gun-''BLAM''
gun-''[[KilledMidSentence BLAM]]''
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