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17th Sep '17 11:46:51 AM Gideoncrawle
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* In ''Fanfic/TheLegendOfTotalDramaIsland'', most of the cast are varying shades of gray, but the following are notable and/or representative:
** Black: Chris, {{the host}}. He shows a callous disregard for human life.
** Near-black: Heather, the {{alpha bitch}}. She seems to enjoy her antagonist role a little too much to be a “gray”; but unlike Chris, she draws the line at the prospect of bloodshed.
** Dark gray: Duncan, the juvenile {{delinquent}}. He’s an experienced knife fighter and tends to view girls as objects, but he has too many PetTheDog moments to be a “black”.
** Neutral gray: Chef Hatchet, Chris' aide. He’s a textbook PunchClockVillain. He understands and accepts the role of hardship in separating the game's contenders from the pretenders, but when approached with proper deference [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure he can sometimes be persuaded]] to give the petitioners more help than his duties require [[TheStarscream or even technically allow]], although he won't do anything that would affect the course of the game.
** Light gray: Katie and Sadie, the [[HeterosexualLifePartners co-dependent clones]]. They’re friendly, loyal and supportive, but are also willing to [[BewareTheNiceOnes get their hands dirty to get what they want]].
** Near-white: Courtney, the [[GoGetterGirl Muskies' nominal leader]]. She is well-meaning and compassionate, but is also willing to do [[IDidWhatIHadToDo what she thinks she must]].
** White: Bridgette, the {{granola girl}}. She’s almost [[IncorruptiblePurePureness incorruptibly pure]] and is the only contestant known to have mourned the [[RedShirt dead interns]] from the beginning.

17th Sep '17 10:12:50 AM JulianLapostat
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* Marvel is pretty much everywhere on the map. You have mutants vs. non-mutants but within the mutants you have extremists, pacifists and self interested groups, and the government and population at large tend to have their own factions. Within the non-mutant hero camp, you have heroes who want to fight crime the old school way independently versus heroes who want more government control vs heroes who work for hire. You have various cosmic beings and aliens with BlueAndOrangeMorality. You have {{Anti Hero}}es like the Punisher and then the truly evil guys, both {{chaotic|Evil}} types like ''ComicBook/{{Carnage}}'' and {{pragmatic|Villainy}} types like ''ComicBook/RedSkull''.
** Even Captain America who is true blue and always means to do the right thing sometimes gets impulsive and screws up as seen by the Marvel Civil War arc. Justified in that his past experiences have led him to be wary of blindly serving the government, which is itself another example of this trope.
** ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'': Reed Richards sometimes has a tendency to act unilaterally because he feels he's the only one who can process all of the variables which has caused much tension within the team. Reed, IronMan and Xavier above all tend to be this way which led to them forming the Illuminati.
** Even within the ''ComicBook/XMen'', Xavier, Cyclops, Wolverine and Cable all have different ideas about when its right to cross certain lines. To say nothing of when people like the White Queen or Magneto himself join the group. And then of course, there are the outright villains like ''ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}''.

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* Marvel is pretty much everywhere on the map. You have mutants vs. non-mutants but within the mutants you have extremists, pacifists and self interested groups, and the government and population at large tend to have their own factions. Within the non-mutant hero camp, you have heroes who want to fight crime the old school way independently versus heroes who want more government control vs heroes who work Creator/NeilGaiman's ''ComicBook/TheSandman'' was notable for hire. You have various cosmic beings and aliens dealing in multiple stories with BlueAndOrangeMorality. You have {{Anti Hero}}es like highly gray, conflicted and deeply disturbed characters who are across the Punisher and then the truly evil guys, both {{chaotic|Evil}} types like ''ComicBook/{{Carnage}}'' and {{pragmatic|Villainy}} types like ''ComicBook/RedSkull''.
** Even Captain America who is true blue and always means to do the right thing sometimes gets impulsive and screws up as seen by the Marvel Civil War arc. Justified in that his past experiences have led him to be
morality spectrum. Gaiman was also quite wary about invoking KarmicDeath and LaserGuidedKarma and as such a number of blindly serving individuals who do bad, evil, and horrible things end up surviving and going unpunished. The protagonist, Dream of the government, which Endless, is itself another example of this trope.
** ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'': Reed Richards sometimes
a primordial concept who has BlueAndOrangeMorality and a tendency to act unilaterally because he feels CodeOfHonour but he's the only one who can process all also prone to jealous acts of the variables which has caused cruelty, DisproportionateRetribution and much tension within the team. Reed, IronMan and Xavier above all tend to be this way which led to them forming the Illuminati.
** Even within the ''ComicBook/XMen'', Xavier, Cyclops, Wolverine and Cable all have different ideas
of his story-arc is about when its right to cross certain lines. To say nothing learning some humility. Most of when people like the White Queen or Magneto himself join the group. And then of course, there his family are the outright villains like ''ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}''.of a similar nature. The most likable, sane and "normal" of his family are ''Death'' and ''Destruction''.


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* Within the ''ComicBook/XMen'', Xavier, Cyclops, Wolverine and Cable all have different ideas about when its right to cross certain lines. To say nothing of when people like the White Queen or Magneto himself join the group. There are the outright villains like ''ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}'' and Mister Sinister or the Sentinels, but much of the drama of the stories' most famous arcs deals with internal divisions and inner conflict, most painfully during the ''ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga'' where the X-Men, the Shi'ar Imperium, and Jean Grey have differing and believable reasons and arguments, and the only resolution is tragedy.
4th Sep '17 9:52:46 PM Bootlebat
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[[folder: Truth In Television]]
* ANY large group of people will invariably have members of all moral and ethical stances
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9th Aug '17 8:57:26 AM Necrodomo
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* The ''[[NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'' lore is largely about deconstructing [[BlackAndWhiteMorality]]. The series ''presents'' itself as [[TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil Black vs White vs Grey]], but the seemingly all-important KarmaMeter is a charade set up by the most belligerent angelic and demonic deities to force people to take sides and reward their followers solely for keeping the conflict going. Even the angels are divided into zealots who fall easily into KnightTemplar territory and more conciliatory angels whose kindly ways make them vulnerable to a PacifismBackfire. Much of the roleplaying in this setting revolves around trying to find a definition of good and evil that doesn't just play into the pantheon's warmongering hands.

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* The ''[[NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'' lore is largely about deconstructing [[BlackAndWhiteMorality]].[[BlackAndWhiteMorality Black and White Morality]]. The series ''presents'' itself as [[TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil Black vs White vs Grey]], but the seemingly all-important KarmaMeter is a charade set up by the most belligerent angelic and demonic deities to force people to take sides and reward their followers solely for keeping the conflict going. Even the angels are divided into zealots who fall easily into KnightTemplar territory and more conciliatory angels whose kindly ways make them vulnerable to a PacifismBackfire. Much of the roleplaying in this setting revolves around trying to find a definition of good and evil that doesn't just play into the pantheon's warmongering hands.
9th Aug '17 8:56:49 AM Necrodomo
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* The ''[[NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'' lore is largely about deconstructing [[BlackAndWhiteMorality]]. The series ''presents'' itself as [[TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil Black vs White vs Grey]], but the seemingly all-important KarmaMeter is a charade set up by the most belligerent angelic and demonic deities to force people to take sides and reward their followers solely for keeping the conflict going. Even the angels are divided into zealots who fall easily into KnightTemplar territory and more conciliatory angels whose kindly ways make them vulnerable to a PacifismBackfire. Much of the roleplaying in this setting revolves around trying to find a definition of good and evil that doesn't just play into the pantheon's warmongering hands.
4th Aug '17 8:07:43 PM CaptainCrawdad
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** The eponymous kings of the War of Five Kings are emblematic of this: pure and noble Robb Stark; mostly good but slightly childish and petty Renly Baratheon; anti-heroic LawfulNeutral Stannis Baratheon; mostly villainous with some redeeming traits Balon Greyjoy; and full-on psychopathic Joffrey Baratheon.
21st Jul '17 12:49:25 AM Bioshock
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** The main factions in ''VideoGame/FalloutNew Vegas'' are also this, with the Legion being a very dark grey and the NCR and Mr. House competing to be the lighter shade of grey faction in comparison. Meanwhile the [[spoiler:Yes Man ending where the Courier takes power]] can range from darker than a Legion ending to also much lighter depending on the Courier's actions and Karma.
4th Jul '17 6:51:36 PM gutza1
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* ''ChroniclesOfElyria'', will have characters on a spectrum of good and evil, helped by the fact that much of the conflict will be between political entities with [[GreyAndGreyMorality no obviously evil faction]]. Of course, some players are likely to become the more sophisticated version of griefers, even if they will have to evade the authorities.
18th Jun '17 10:24:14 AM ACW
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* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'': At the furthest extreme of the Hero end we have Michael Carpenter, [[RedBaron the Fist of God]], who only fights monsters, has a grand total of one recorded instance of swearing in the series proper (which was in a side story), and is all around about as wholesome as a person can be. Slightly away from the good extreme would be the majority of the series other heroes e.g. [[TheHero Harry Dresden]], he's a generally upstanding guy with a '''''massive''''' case of ChronicHeroSyndrome, but isn't above a bit of pragmatism if it's necessary. More towards the middle of the scale is [[MagicalSociety The White Council]] which is made up of plenty of KnightTemplar {{Jerkass}}es, but has methods which are shown to oftentimes be necessary. The main representative of dark grey is John Marcone, who is a ruthless crime boss, but ends up [[EnemyMine joining forces]] with Dresden more often than opposing him and '''''[[BerserkButton will not]]''''' [[EvenEvilHasStandards tolerate any violence against children]]. And when it comes to his usual criminal activities, he believes, as characters of his type often do, that crime's going to exist no matter what, and it's better than it be controlled by someone like him than descend into every-gang-for-itself warfare. As for the monsters of the setting, we have any one the supernatural villains, e.g. the Skinwalker, a terrifying and sadistic CompleteMonster whose [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm true form]]'s mere sight is enough to send Harry into a HeroicBSOD. To top it off, we even have BlueAndOrangeMorality in the form of [[TheFairFolk the fae]], whose Winter Court [[spoiler:guards the universe against monsters from Outside, who don't ''enter'' reality so much as ''parasitize'' it]], and whose Summer Court [[spoiler:protects the universe from the Winter Court]]. On top of that, we find that Winter has the ability to be ''logical'' and stay its hand when it's best to in the long term, while Summer is more prone to going off half-cocked (and when a fae as powerful as the leaders of the courts does that, we can be talking armageddon.)

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* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'': At the furthest extreme of the Hero end we have Michael Carpenter, [[RedBaron the Fist of God]], who only fights monsters, has a grand total of one recorded instance of swearing in the series proper (which was in a side story), and is all around about as wholesome as a person can be. Slightly away from the good extreme would be the majority of the series other heroes e.g. [[TheHero Harry Dresden]], he's a generally upstanding guy with a '''''massive''''' case of ChronicHeroSyndrome, but isn't above a bit of pragmatism if it's necessary. More towards the middle of the scale is [[MagicalSociety The White Council]] which is made up of plenty of KnightTemplar {{Jerkass}}es, but has methods which are shown to oftentimes be necessary. The main representative of dark grey is John Marcone, who is a ruthless crime boss, but ends up [[EnemyMine joining forces]] with Dresden more often than opposing him and '''''[[BerserkButton will not]]''''' [[EvenEvilHasStandards tolerate any violence against children]]. And when it comes to his usual criminal activities, he believes, as characters of his type often do, that crime's going to exist no matter what, and it's better than it be controlled by someone like him than descend into every-gang-for-itself warfare. As for the monsters of the setting, we have any one the supernatural villains, e.g. the Skinwalker, a terrifying and sadistic CompleteMonster monster whose [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm true form]]'s mere sight is enough to send Harry into a HeroicBSOD. To top it off, we even have BlueAndOrangeMorality in the form of [[TheFairFolk the fae]], whose Winter Court [[spoiler:guards the universe against monsters from Outside, who don't ''enter'' reality so much as ''parasitize'' it]], and whose Summer Court [[spoiler:protects the universe from the Winter Court]]. On top of that, we find that Winter has the ability to be ''logical'' and stay its hand when it's best to in the long term, while Summer is more prone to going off half-cocked (and when a fae as powerful as the leaders of the courts does that, we can be talking armageddon.)
14th Jun '17 11:38:54 PM PhantomRider
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* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'': At the furthest extreme of the Hero end we have Michael Carpenter, [[RedBaron the Fist of God]], who only fights monsters, has a grand total of one recorded instance of swearing in the series proper (which was in a side story), and is all around about as wholesome as a person can be. Slightly away from the good extreme would be the majority of the series other heroes e.g. [[TheHero Harry Dresden]], he's a generally upstanding guy with a '''''massive''''' case of ChronicHeroSyndrome, but isn't above a bit of pragmatism if it's necessary. More towards the middle of the scale is [[MagicalSociety The White Council]] which is made up of plenty of KnightTemplar {{Jerkass}}es, but has methods which are shown to oftentimes be necessary. The main representative of dark grey is John Marcone, who is a ruthless crime boss, but ends up [[EnemyMine joining forces]] with Dresden more often than opposing him and '''''[[BerserkButton will not]]''''' [[EvenEvilHasStandards tolerate any violence against children]]. As for the monsters of the setting, we have any one the supernatural villains, e.g. the Skinwalker, whose [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm true form]]'s mere sight is enough to send harry into a HeroicBSOD. To top it off, we even have BlueAndOrangeMorality in the form of [[TheFairFolk the fae]], whose Winter Court [[spoiler:guards the universe against monsters from Outside, who don't ''enter'' reality so much as ''parasitize'' it]], and whose Summer Court [[spoiler:protects the universe from the Winter Court]].

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* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'': At the furthest extreme of the Hero end we have Michael Carpenter, [[RedBaron the Fist of God]], who only fights monsters, has a grand total of one recorded instance of swearing in the series proper (which was in a side story), and is all around about as wholesome as a person can be. Slightly away from the good extreme would be the majority of the series other heroes e.g. [[TheHero Harry Dresden]], he's a generally upstanding guy with a '''''massive''''' case of ChronicHeroSyndrome, but isn't above a bit of pragmatism if it's necessary. More towards the middle of the scale is [[MagicalSociety The White Council]] which is made up of plenty of KnightTemplar {{Jerkass}}es, but has methods which are shown to oftentimes be necessary. The main representative of dark grey is John Marcone, who is a ruthless crime boss, but ends up [[EnemyMine joining forces]] with Dresden more often than opposing him and '''''[[BerserkButton will not]]''''' [[EvenEvilHasStandards tolerate any violence against children]]. And when it comes to his usual criminal activities, he believes, as characters of his type often do, that crime's going to exist no matter what, and it's better than it be controlled by someone like him than descend into every-gang-for-itself warfare. As for the monsters of the setting, we have any one the supernatural villains, e.g. the Skinwalker, a terrifying and sadistic CompleteMonster whose [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm true form]]'s mere sight is enough to send harry Harry into a HeroicBSOD. To top it off, we even have BlueAndOrangeMorality in the form of [[TheFairFolk the fae]], whose Winter Court [[spoiler:guards the universe against monsters from Outside, who don't ''enter'' reality so much as ''parasitize'' it]], and whose Summer Court [[spoiler:protects the universe from the Winter Court]]. On top of that, we find that Winter has the ability to be ''logical'' and stay its hand when it's best to in the long term, while Summer is more prone to going off half-cocked (and when a fae as powerful as the leaders of the courts does that, we can be talking armageddon.)
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