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8th Jun '16 4:27:33 PM nighttrainfm
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', most of Team Aang is unequivocally good and the most powerful members of the Fire Nation are power-hungry sociopaths, but almost everyone else falls somewhere in between. [[spoiler: Ba Sing Se]] turns out to be a CrapsaccharineWorld, and the Northern Water Tribe has some pretty sexist moments. The rank-and-file and civilians of the Fire Nation are more often misguided patriots than outright evil. You could make a decent argument that the whole series is a subversion of the AlwaysChaoticEvil trope.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', most of Team Aang is unequivocally good and the most powerful members of the Fire Nation are power-hungry sociopaths, imperialists, but almost everyone else falls somewhere in between. [[spoiler: Ba Sing Se]] turns out to be a CrapsaccharineWorld, and the Northern Water Tribe has some pretty sexist moments. The rank-and-file and civilians of the Fire Nation are more often misguided patriots than outright evil. You could make a decent argument that the whole series is a subversion of the AlwaysChaoticEvil trope.
31st May '16 9:25:06 AM WillBGood
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* ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'' [[DarkerAndEdgier eventually]] [[CerebusSyndrome divulges]] into this [[spoiler:when the MythArc [[AnotherDimension interdimensional]] war was revealed]]. Sort by factions and individual characters, we have: White (the You Show Duel School, Yuya, Yuzu and Gongenzaka) vs. Lighter Grey (Yuto [[spoiler:plus [[HeelFaceTurn Selena]]]]) vs. Darker Gray (the BigGood LDS, Kurosaki [[spoiler:and [[TheHero Yuya's]] [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Berserker mode]] for kicking only [[KickTheSonOfABitch assholes]]]]) vs. Black ([[spoiler:[[AcademyOfEvil the]] [[ForTheEvulz Aca]][[LackOfEmpathy de]][[WarForFunAndProfit mia]]]]). Yugo [[spoiler:and the Synchro Dimension]] didn't appear enough to sort into these shade of conflict while a few of the AssholeVictim are just {{Jerkass}}. [[spoiler:Sora]] seems to go from Dark Gray to Black with a few PetTheDog moments, before beginning a HeelFaceTurn due to a HeelRealization. Unusual for a ''[[Franchise/YuGiOh YGO]]'' franchise because it focuses on [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters a lot more characters]] at the same time than its predecessors, allow for more shades of conflict during one arc. More amazingly, the anime has a change in [[GenreShift genre]] and in morality within only about ''30'' episodes, impressive for a Shonen series.

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* ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'' [[DarkerAndEdgier eventually]] [[CerebusSyndrome divulges]] into this [[spoiler:when the MythArc [[AnotherDimension interdimensional]] war was revealed]]. Sort by factions and individual characters, we have: White (the You Show Duel School, Yuya, Yuzu and Gongenzaka) vs. Lighter Grey (Yuto [[spoiler:plus [[HeelFaceTurn Selena]]]]) vs. Darker Gray (the BigGood LDS, Kurosaki [[spoiler:and [[TheHero Yuya's]] [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Berserker mode]] for kicking only [[KickTheSonOfABitch assholes]]]]) vs. Black ([[spoiler:[[AcademyOfEvil the]] [[ForTheEvulz Aca]][[LackOfEmpathy de]][[WarForFunAndProfit mia]]]]). Yugo [[spoiler:and the Synchro Dimension]] didn't appear enough to sort into these shade of conflict while a few of the AssholeVictim {{Asshole Victim}}s are just {{Jerkass}}.{{Jerkass}}es. [[spoiler:Sora]] seems to go from Dark Gray to Black with a few PetTheDog moments, before beginning a HeelFaceTurn due to a HeelRealization. Unusual for a ''[[Franchise/YuGiOh YGO]]'' franchise because it focuses on [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters a lot more characters]] at the same time than its predecessors, allow for more shades of conflict during one arc. More amazingly, the anime has a change in [[GenreShift genre]] and in morality within only about ''30'' episodes, impressive for a Shonen series.
17th May '16 7:54:44 PM JulianLapostat
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->''"Among the Alps and Pyrenees, perhaps, there were no mixed characters. There, such as were not [[IncorruptiblePurePureness as spotless as an angel]] might have the dispositions of a fiend. But in England it was not so; among the English, she believed, in their hearts and habits, there was a general though unequal mixture of good and bad. Upon this conviction, she would not be surprised if even in Henry and Eleanor Tilney, some slight imperfection might hereafter appear; and upon this conviction she need not fear to acknowledge some actual specks in the character of their father, who, though cleared from the grossly injurious suspicions which she must ever blush to have entertained, she did believe, upon serious consideration, to be not perfectly amiable."''
--> -- '''Creator/JaneAusten''', ''Literature/NorthangerAbbey''

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->''"Among the Alps and Pyrenees, perhaps, there were no mixed characters. There, such as were not [[IncorruptiblePurePureness as spotless as an angel]] might have the dispositions of a fiend. But in England it was not so; among the English, she believed, in their hearts and habits, there was a general though unequal mixture of good and bad. Upon this conviction, she would not be surprised if even in Henry and Eleanor Tilney, some slight imperfection might hereafter appear; and upon this conviction she need not fear to acknowledge some actual specks ->''"The most terrible thing in the character of world is that everyone has their father, who, though cleared from the grossly injurious suspicions which she must ever blush to have entertained, she did believe, upon serious consideration, to be not perfectly amiable.reasons."''
--> -- '''Creator/JaneAusten''', ''Literature/NorthangerAbbey''
-->-- '''Octave''', ''[[Creator/JeanRenoir The Rules of the Game]]''
29th Mar '16 8:07:58 PM fsdfsdfsd
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** There's also some work put into showing how characters who do evil things think and why they do what they do. While there are evil Mooks and TheDreaded, [[spoiler: Sora]] and [[spoiler: Dennis]] both have a lot of humanizing traits. [[spoiler: Serena]] shows the mentality that leads people to becoming Black, since she wanted to be [[spoiler: a soldier]] until she stopped to consider that her victims might be ''innocent''. [[spoiler: Sora]] suffers from a bad case of FantasticRacism, but is shown to have grown up with no friends, trained not to ask questions and obey orders unquestioningly, and [[spoiler: starts thinking for himself and avoiding commands [[MoralityPet once he makes real friends for the first time in his life,]] and begins to have a HeelRealization.]] In fact, all the characters from [[spoiler:Academia]] seem to see themselves as ProudWarriorRaceGuys with UndyingLoyalty to their leader, even the nastier characters [[spoiler:like Yuri]]. [[spoiler: Kurosaki]] is a [[spoiler: genocide survivor]] and a ShellShockedVeteran trying to rescue his friends and family, who has become paranoid and [[WellIntentionedExtremist ruthless]] due to all he's lost. While he's hostile to [[spoiler:the Lancers and Reiji]] despite them saving his life, one has to remember that he has good reasons to hold them at arms length[[note]][[spoiler: Dennis]] was TheMole, Reiji tampered with his duel disk, [[ParanoiaFuel the Lancers all work for Reiji]], he doesn't actually know anything about most of them or have anything in common with them, and LDS ''was'' built by [[BigBad Leo Akaba]][[/note]], and furthermore shows a much friendlier side to people he can be certain are in no way related to his enemies. Reiji's invasion of privacy and ruthlessness has saved the lives of the three LID students and enabled him to ensure that [[spoiler: his dimension isn't caught by surprise and destroyed the same way the Xyz dimension was]]. [[spoiler: Duel Chaser 227]] became a CorruptCop in order to avoid poverty. Most of [[spoiler: the Tops]] actually believe the lie that they are equals and friends with [[spoiler: the Commons]], when they're actually the oppressive ruling class in a CrapsackWorld. [[spoiler: [[TheScrappy The Commons]]]] are starving and manipulated by their oppressors BreadAndCircuses, but while the crowd can be nasty every individual member that we meet is genuinely nice or has a HiddenHeartOfGold somewhere. [[spoiler: Shinji]] truly believes the only way to change the system [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption is through violence revolution]] and [[spoiler:his revolution]] gets swallowed by BlackAndWhiteInsanity. [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Jean-Michel Roget is just a greedy bastard]], although he tries to justify his actions to himself by claiming MightMakesRight.

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** There's also some work put into showing how characters who do evil things think and why they do what they do. While there are evil Mooks and TheDreaded, [[spoiler: Sora]] and [[spoiler: Dennis]] both have a lot of humanizing traits. [[spoiler: Serena]] shows the mentality that leads people to becoming Black, since she wanted to be [[spoiler: a soldier]] until she stopped to consider that her victims might be ''innocent''. [[spoiler: Sora]] suffers from a bad case of FantasticRacism, but is shown to have grown up with no friends, trained not to ask questions and obey orders unquestioningly, and [[spoiler: starts thinking for himself and avoiding commands [[MoralityPet once he makes real friends for the first time in his life,]] and begins to have a HeelRealization.]] In fact, all the characters from [[spoiler:Academia]] seem to see themselves as ProudWarriorRaceGuys with UndyingLoyalty to their leader, even the nastier characters [[spoiler:like Yuri]].[[TheDreaded Yuri]]]]. [[spoiler: Kurosaki]] is a [[spoiler: genocide survivor]] and a ShellShockedVeteran trying to rescue his friends and family, who has become paranoid and [[WellIntentionedExtremist ruthless]] due to all he's lost. While he's hostile to [[spoiler:the Lancers and Reiji]] despite them saving his life, one has to remember that he has good reasons to hold them at arms length[[note]][[spoiler: Dennis]] was TheMole, Reiji tampered with his duel disk, [[ParanoiaFuel the Lancers all work for Reiji]], he doesn't actually know anything about most of them or have anything in common with them, and LDS ''was'' built by [[BigBad Leo Akaba]][[/note]], and furthermore shows a much friendlier side to people he can be certain are in no way related to his enemies. Reiji's invasion of privacy and ruthlessness has saved the lives of the three LID students and enabled him to ensure that [[spoiler: his dimension isn't caught by surprise and destroyed the same way the Xyz dimension was]]. [[spoiler: Duel Chaser 227]] became a CorruptCop in order to avoid poverty. Most of [[spoiler: the Tops]] actually believe the lie that they are equals and friends with [[spoiler: the Commons]], when they're actually the oppressive ruling class in a CrapsackWorld. [[spoiler: [[TheScrappy The Commons]]]] are starving and manipulated by their oppressors BreadAndCircuses, but while the crowd can be nasty every individual member that we meet is genuinely nice or has a HiddenHeartOfGold somewhere. [[spoiler: Shinji]] truly believes the only way to change the system [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption is through violence a violent revolution]] and [[spoiler:his revolution]] rebellion]] gets swallowed by BlackAndWhiteInsanity.BlackAndWhiteInsanity, but ultimately [[spoiler:pull a mass HeelFaceTurn]]. [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Jean-Michel Roget is just a greedy bastard]], although he tries to justify his actions to himself by claiming MightMakesRight.
29th Mar '16 7:58:46 PM fsdfsdfsd
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** There's also some work put into showing how characters who do evil things think and why they do what they do. While there are evil Mooks and TheDreaded, [[spoiler: Sora]] and [[spoiler: Dennis]] both have a lot of humanizing traits. [[spoiler: Serena]] shows the mentality that leads people to becoming Black, since she wanted to be [[spoiler: a soldier]] until she stopped to consider that her victims might be ''innocent''. [[spoiler: Sora]] suffers from a bad case of FantasticRacism, but is shown to have grown up with no friends, trained not to ask questions and obey orders unquestioningly, and [[spoiler: starts thinking for himself and avoiding commands [[MoralityPet once he makes real friends for the first time in his life,]] and begins to have a HeelRealization.]] When at his worst, he also acts no different than the various one-off Mooks and it's strongly implied that his situation and mentality [[spoiler: minus [[BecomingTheMask having found friends in Standard]]]] is the same as the Mooks. All the characters from [[spoiler:Academia]] seem to see themselves as ProudWarriorRaceGuys with UndyingLoyalty to their leader, even the nastier characters [[spoiler:like Yuri]]. [[spoiler: Kurosaki]] is a [[spoiler: genocide survivor]] and a ShellShockedVeteran trying to rescue his friends and family, who has become paranoid and [[WellIntentionedExtremist ruthless]] due to all he's lost. While he's hostile to [[spoiler:the Lancers and Reiji]] despite them saving his life, one has to remember that he has good reasons to hold them at arms length[[note]][[spoiler: Dennis]] was TheMole, Reiji tampered with his duel disk, [[ParanoiaFuel the Lancers all work for Reiji]], he doesn't actually know anything about most of them or have anything in common with them, and LDS ''was'' built by [[BigBad Leo Akaba]][[/note]], and furthermore shows a much friendlier side to people he can be certain are in no way related to his enemies. Reiji's invasion of privacy and ruthlessness has saved the lives of the three LID students and enabled him to ensure that [[spoiler: his dimension isn't caught by surprise and destroyed the same way the Xyz dimension was]]. [[spoiler: Duel Chaser 227]] became a CorruptCop in order to avoid poverty. Most of [[spoiler: the Tops]] actually believe the lie that they are equals and friends with [[spoiler: the Commons]], when they're actually the oppressive ruling class in a CrapsackWorld. [[spoiler: [[TheScrappy The Commons]]]] are starving and manipulated by their oppressors BreadAndCircuses, but while the crowd can be nasty every individual member that we meet is genuinely nice or has a HiddenHeartOfGold somewhere. [[spoiler: Shinji]] truly believes the only way to change the system is through violent revolution and PR manipulation just as bad as what his oppressors use. [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Jean-Michel Roget is just a greedy bastard]].

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** There's also some work put into showing how characters who do evil things think and why they do what they do. While there are evil Mooks and TheDreaded, [[spoiler: Sora]] and [[spoiler: Dennis]] both have a lot of humanizing traits. [[spoiler: Serena]] shows the mentality that leads people to becoming Black, since she wanted to be [[spoiler: a soldier]] until she stopped to consider that her victims might be ''innocent''. [[spoiler: Sora]] suffers from a bad case of FantasticRacism, but is shown to have grown up with no friends, trained not to ask questions and obey orders unquestioningly, and [[spoiler: starts thinking for himself and avoiding commands [[MoralityPet once he makes real friends for the first time in his life,]] and begins to have a HeelRealization.]] When at his worst, he also acts no different than the various one-off Mooks and it's strongly implied that his situation and mentality [[spoiler: minus [[BecomingTheMask having found friends in Standard]]]] is the same as the Mooks. All In fact, all the characters from [[spoiler:Academia]] seem to see themselves as ProudWarriorRaceGuys with UndyingLoyalty to their leader, even the nastier characters [[spoiler:like Yuri]]. [[spoiler: Kurosaki]] is a [[spoiler: genocide survivor]] and a ShellShockedVeteran trying to rescue his friends and family, who has become paranoid and [[WellIntentionedExtremist ruthless]] due to all he's lost. While he's hostile to [[spoiler:the Lancers and Reiji]] despite them saving his life, one has to remember that he has good reasons to hold them at arms length[[note]][[spoiler: Dennis]] was TheMole, Reiji tampered with his duel disk, [[ParanoiaFuel the Lancers all work for Reiji]], he doesn't actually know anything about most of them or have anything in common with them, and LDS ''was'' built by [[BigBad Leo Akaba]][[/note]], and furthermore shows a much friendlier side to people he can be certain are in no way related to his enemies. Reiji's invasion of privacy and ruthlessness has saved the lives of the three LID students and enabled him to ensure that [[spoiler: his dimension isn't caught by surprise and destroyed the same way the Xyz dimension was]]. [[spoiler: Duel Chaser 227]] became a CorruptCop in order to avoid poverty. Most of [[spoiler: the Tops]] actually believe the lie that they are equals and friends with [[spoiler: the Commons]], when they're actually the oppressive ruling class in a CrapsackWorld. [[spoiler: [[TheScrappy The Commons]]]] are starving and manipulated by their oppressors BreadAndCircuses, but while the crowd can be nasty every individual member that we meet is genuinely nice or has a HiddenHeartOfGold somewhere. [[spoiler: Shinji]] truly believes the only way to change the system [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption is through violent revolution violence revolution]] and PR manipulation just as bad as what his oppressors use. [[spoiler:his revolution]] gets swallowed by BlackAndWhiteInsanity. [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Jean-Michel Roget is just a greedy bastard]].bastard]], although he tries to justify his actions to himself by claiming MightMakesRight.
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** There's also some work put into showing how characters who do evil things think and why they do what they do. While there are evil Mooks and TheDreaded, [[spoiler: Sora]] and [[spoiler: Dennis]] both have a lot of humanizing traits. [[spoiler: Serena]] shows the mentality that leads people to becoming Black, since she wanted to be [[spoiler: a soldier]] until she stopped to consider that her victims might be ''innocent''. [[spoiler: Sora]] suffers from a bad case of FantasticRacism, but is shown to have grown up with no friends, trained not to ask questions and obey orders unquestioningly, and [[spoiler: starts thinking for himself and avoiding commands [[MoralityPet once he makes real friends for the first time in his life,]] and begins to have a HeelRealization.]] When at his worst, he also acts no different than the various one-off Mooks and it's strongly implied that his situation and mentality [[spoiler: minus [[BecomingTheMask having found friends in Standard]]]] is the same as the Mooks. All the characters from [[spoiler:Academia]] seem to see themselves as ProudWarriorRaceGuys with UndyingLoyalty to their leader, even the nastier characters [[spoiler:like Yuri]]. [[spoiler: Kurosaki]] is a [[spoiler: genocide survivor]] and a ShellShockedVeteran trying to rescue his friends and family, who has become paranoid and [[WellIntentionedExtremist ruthless]] due to all he's lost. While he's hostile to [[spoiler:the Lancers and Reiji]] despite them saving his life, one has to remember that he has good reasons to hold them at arms length[[note]]Dennis was TheMole, Reiji tampered with his duel disk, the Lancers all work for Reiji, he doesn't actually know anything about most of them or have anything in common with them, and LDS ''was'' built by Leo Akaba[[/note]], and furthermore shows a much friendlier side to people he can be certain are in no way related to his enemies. Reiji's invasion of privacy and ruthlessness has saved the lives of the three LID students and enabled him to ensure that [[spoiler: his dimension isn't caught by surprise and destroyed the same way the Xyz dimension was]]. [[spoiler: Duel Chaser 227]] became a CorruptCop in order to avoid poverty. Most of [[spoiler: the Tops]] actually believe the lie that they are equals and friends with [[spoiler: the Commons]], when they're actually the oppressive ruling class in a CrapsackWorld. [[spoiler: [[TheScrappy The Commons]]]] are starving and manipulated by their oppressors BreadAndCircuses, but while the crowd can be nasty every individual member that we meet is genuinely nice or has a HiddenHeartOfGold somewhere. [[spoiler: Shinji]] truly believes the only way to change the system is through violent revolution and PR manipulation just as bad as what his oppressors use. [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Jean-Michel Roget is just a greedy bastard]].

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** There's also some work put into showing how characters who do evil things think and why they do what they do. While there are evil Mooks and TheDreaded, [[spoiler: Sora]] and [[spoiler: Dennis]] both have a lot of humanizing traits. [[spoiler: Serena]] shows the mentality that leads people to becoming Black, since she wanted to be [[spoiler: a soldier]] until she stopped to consider that her victims might be ''innocent''. [[spoiler: Sora]] suffers from a bad case of FantasticRacism, but is shown to have grown up with no friends, trained not to ask questions and obey orders unquestioningly, and [[spoiler: starts thinking for himself and avoiding commands [[MoralityPet once he makes real friends for the first time in his life,]] and begins to have a HeelRealization.]] When at his worst, he also acts no different than the various one-off Mooks and it's strongly implied that his situation and mentality [[spoiler: minus [[BecomingTheMask having found friends in Standard]]]] is the same as the Mooks. All the characters from [[spoiler:Academia]] seem to see themselves as ProudWarriorRaceGuys with UndyingLoyalty to their leader, even the nastier characters [[spoiler:like Yuri]]. [[spoiler: Kurosaki]] is a [[spoiler: genocide survivor]] and a ShellShockedVeteran trying to rescue his friends and family, who has become paranoid and [[WellIntentionedExtremist ruthless]] due to all he's lost. While he's hostile to [[spoiler:the Lancers and Reiji]] despite them saving his life, one has to remember that he has good reasons to hold them at arms length[[note]]Dennis length[[note]][[spoiler: Dennis]] was TheMole, Reiji tampered with his duel disk, [[ParanoiaFuel the Lancers all work for Reiji, Reiji]], he doesn't actually know anything about most of them or have anything in common with them, and LDS ''was'' built by [[BigBad Leo Akaba[[/note]], Akaba]][[/note]], and furthermore shows a much friendlier side to people he can be certain are in no way related to his enemies. Reiji's invasion of privacy and ruthlessness has saved the lives of the three LID students and enabled him to ensure that [[spoiler: his dimension isn't caught by surprise and destroyed the same way the Xyz dimension was]]. [[spoiler: Duel Chaser 227]] became a CorruptCop in order to avoid poverty. Most of [[spoiler: the Tops]] actually believe the lie that they are equals and friends with [[spoiler: the Commons]], when they're actually the oppressive ruling class in a CrapsackWorld. [[spoiler: [[TheScrappy The Commons]]]] are starving and manipulated by their oppressors BreadAndCircuses, but while the crowd can be nasty every individual member that we meet is genuinely nice or has a HiddenHeartOfGold somewhere. [[spoiler: Shinji]] truly believes the only way to change the system is through violent revolution and PR manipulation just as bad as what his oppressors use. [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Jean-Michel Roget is just a greedy bastard]].
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* ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes''

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%% * ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes''
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** ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'', as a film exploring prejudice, shows varying degrees of prejudice among characters: Judy tries to be anti-prejudice [[spoiler: but has some implicit prejudices of her own she needs to overcome]]. Nick lives up to the sly fox stereotype and is cynical about animals' abilities to overcome them [[spoiler: because he tried and failed to in his backstory, but eventually does, thanks to Judy]]. Bogo is unwilling to budge on his preconceived notions [[spoiler: until he sees results, at which point he does so unapologetically]]. Clawhauser is not malicious in any way but still stereotypes Judy out of innocent ignorance and then immediately apologizes for it. Judy's parents are kind, well-meaning people, who are openly prejudiced against predators, especially foxes [[spoiler: but get better thanks to Judy]]. Gideon Gray is shown as a kid attempting to reinforce predator superiority [[spoiler: but has grown out of it as a young adult]]. Lionheart leads a type of affirmative action program to get animals into non-traditional jobs but treats his own small animal assistant mayor like dirt [[spoiler: and was willing to kidnap several animals to protect himself from being a victim of prejudice]]. Bellwether is sweet and friendly, attempting to raise Judy up [[spoiler: while trying behind the scenes to systematically tear all predators down, and willing to turn against Judy when she refuses to do the same]]. And Gazelle has reached a level of enlightenment few can.
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** There's also some work put into showing how characters who do evil things think and why they do what they do. While there are evil Mooks and TheDreaded, [[spoiler: Sora]] and [[spoiler: Dennis]] both have a lot of humanizing traits. [[spoiler: Serena]] shows the mentality that leads people to becoming Black, since she wanted to be [[spoiler: a soldier]] until she stopped to consider that her victims might be ''innocent''. [[spoiler: Sora]] suffers from a bad case of FantasticRacism, but is shown to have grown up with no friends, trained not to ask questions and obey orders unquestioningly, and [[spoiler: starts thinking for himself and avoiding commands [[MoralityPet once he makes real friends for the first time in his life,]] and begins to have a HeelRealization.]] When at his worst, he also acts no different than the various one-off Mooks and it's strongly implied that his situation and mentality [[spoiler: minus [[BecomingTheMask having found friends in Standard]]]] is the same as the Mooks. All the characters from [[spoiler:Academia]] seem to see themselves as ProudWarriorRaceGuys with UndyingLoyalty to their leader, even the nastier characters [[spoiler:like Yuri]]. [[spoiler: Kurosaki]] is a [[spoiler: genocide survivor]] and a ShellShockedVeteran trying to rescue his friends and family, who has become paranoid and [[WellIntentionedExtremist ruthless]] due to all he's lost. While he's hostile to [[spoiler:the Lancers and Reiji]] despite them saving his life, one has to remember that he has good reasons to hold them at arms length[[note]]Dennis was TheMole, Reiji tampered with his duel disk, the Lancers all work for Reiji, he doesn't actually know anything about most of them or have anything in common with them, and LDS ''was'' built by Leo Akaba[[/note]], and furthermore shows a much friendlier side to people he can be certain are in no way related to his enemies. Reiji's invasion of privacy and ruthlessness has saved the lives of the three LID students and enabled him to ensure that [[spoiler: his dimension isn't caught by surprise and destroyed the same way the Xyz dimension was]]. [[spoiler: Duel Chaser 227]] is a CorruptCop who became one in order to avoid poverty. Most of [[spoiler: the Tops]] actually believe the lie that they are equals and friends with [[spoiler: the Commons]], when they're actually the oppressive ruling class in a CrapsackWorld. [[spoiler: [[TheScrappy The Commons]]]] are starving and manipulated by their oppressors BreadAndCircuses, but while the crowd can be nasty every individual member that we meet is genuinely nice or has a HiddenHeartOfGold somewhere. [[spoiler: Shinji]] truly believes the only way to change the system is through violent revolution and PR manipulation just as bad as what his oppressors use. [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Jean-Michel Roget is just a greedy bastard]].

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** There's also some work put into showing how characters who do evil things think and why they do what they do. While there are evil Mooks and TheDreaded, [[spoiler: Sora]] and [[spoiler: Dennis]] both have a lot of humanizing traits. [[spoiler: Serena]] shows the mentality that leads people to becoming Black, since she wanted to be [[spoiler: a soldier]] until she stopped to consider that her victims might be ''innocent''. [[spoiler: Sora]] suffers from a bad case of FantasticRacism, but is shown to have grown up with no friends, trained not to ask questions and obey orders unquestioningly, and [[spoiler: starts thinking for himself and avoiding commands [[MoralityPet once he makes real friends for the first time in his life,]] and begins to have a HeelRealization.]] When at his worst, he also acts no different than the various one-off Mooks and it's strongly implied that his situation and mentality [[spoiler: minus [[BecomingTheMask having found friends in Standard]]]] is the same as the Mooks. All the characters from [[spoiler:Academia]] seem to see themselves as ProudWarriorRaceGuys with UndyingLoyalty to their leader, even the nastier characters [[spoiler:like Yuri]]. [[spoiler: Kurosaki]] is a [[spoiler: genocide survivor]] and a ShellShockedVeteran trying to rescue his friends and family, who has become paranoid and [[WellIntentionedExtremist ruthless]] due to all he's lost. While he's hostile to [[spoiler:the Lancers and Reiji]] despite them saving his life, one has to remember that he has good reasons to hold them at arms length[[note]]Dennis was TheMole, Reiji tampered with his duel disk, the Lancers all work for Reiji, he doesn't actually know anything about most of them or have anything in common with them, and LDS ''was'' built by Leo Akaba[[/note]], and furthermore shows a much friendlier side to people he can be certain are in no way related to his enemies. Reiji's invasion of privacy and ruthlessness has saved the lives of the three LID students and enabled him to ensure that [[spoiler: his dimension isn't caught by surprise and destroyed the same way the Xyz dimension was]]. [[spoiler: Duel Chaser 227]] is became a CorruptCop who became one in order to avoid poverty. Most of [[spoiler: the Tops]] actually believe the lie that they are equals and friends with [[spoiler: the Commons]], when they're actually the oppressive ruling class in a CrapsackWorld. [[spoiler: [[TheScrappy The Commons]]]] are starving and manipulated by their oppressors BreadAndCircuses, but while the crowd can be nasty every individual member that we meet is genuinely nice or has a HiddenHeartOfGold somewhere. [[spoiler: Shinji]] truly believes the only way to change the system is through violent revolution and PR manipulation just as bad as what his oppressors use. [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Jean-Michel Roget is just a greedy bastard]].
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* ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'' [[DarkerAndEdgier eventually]] [[CerebusSyndrome divulges]] into this [[spoiler:when the MythArc [[AnotherDimension interdimensional]] war was revealed]]. Sort by factions and individual characters, we have: White (the You Show Duel School, Yuya, Yuzu and Gongenzaka) vs. Lighter Grey (Yuto [[spoiler:plus [[HeelFaceTurn Selena]]]]) vs. Darker Gray (the BigGood LDS, Kurosaki [[spoiler:and [[TheHero Yuya's]] [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Berserker mode]] for kicking only [[KickTheSonOfABitch assholes]]]]) vs. Black ([[spoiler:[[AcademyOfEvil the]] [[ForTheEvulz Aca]][[LackOfEmpathy de]][[WarForFunAndProfit mia]]]]). Yugo [[spoiler:and the Synchro Dimension]] didn't appear enough to sort into these shade of conflict while a few of the AssholeVictim are just {{Jerkass}}. [[spoiler:Sora]] seems to go from Dark Gray to Black with a few PetTheDog moments. Unusual for a ''[[Franchise/YuGiOh YGO]]'' franchise because it focuses on [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters a lot more characters]] at the same time than its predecessors, allow for more shades of conflict during one arc. More amazingly, the anime has a change in [[GenreShift genre]] and in morality within only about ''30'' episodes, impressive for a Shonen series.
** There's also some work put into showing how characters who do evil things think and why they do what they do. While there are evil Mooks and TheDreaded, [[spoiler: Sora]] and [[spoiler: Dennis]] both have a lot of humanizing traits. [[spoiler: Serena]] shows the mentality that leads people to becoming Black, since she wanted to be [[spoiler: a soldier]] until she stopped to consider that her victims might be ''innocent''. [[spoiler: Sora]] suffers from a bad case of FantasticRacism, but is shown to have grown up with no friends, trained not to ask questions and obey orders unquestioningly, and [[spoiler: starts thinking for himself and avoiding commands [[MoralityPet once he makes real friends for the first time in his life.]]]] When at his worst, he also acts no different than the various one-off Mooks and it's strongly implied that his situation and mentality [[spoiler: minus [[BecomingTheMask having found friends in Standard]]]] is the same as the Mooks. [[spoiler: Kurosaki]] is a [[spoiler: genocide survivor]] and a ShellShockedVeteran trying to rescue his friends and family, who has become paranoid and [[WellIntentionedExtremist ruthless]] due to all he's lost. Reiji's invasion of privacy and ruthlessness has saved the lives of the three LID students and enabled him to ensure that [[spoiler: his dimension isn't caught by surprise and destroyed the same way the Xyz dimension was]]. [[spoiler: Duel Chaser 227]] is a CorruptCop who became one in order to avoid poverty. Most of [[spoiler: the Tops]] actually believe the lie that they are equals and friends with [[spoiler: the Commons]], when they're actually the oppressive ruling class in a CrapsackWorld. [[spoiler: [[TheScrappy The Commons]]]] are starving and manipulated by their oppressors BreadAndCircuses, but while the crowd can be nasty every individual member that we meet is genuinely nice or has a HiddenHeartOfGold somewhere. [[spoiler: Shinji]] truly believes the only way to change the system is through violent revolution and PR manipulation just as bad as what his oppressors use. [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Jean-Michel Roget is just a greedy bastard]].

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* ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'' [[DarkerAndEdgier eventually]] [[CerebusSyndrome divulges]] into this [[spoiler:when the MythArc [[AnotherDimension interdimensional]] war was revealed]]. Sort by factions and individual characters, we have: White (the You Show Duel School, Yuya, Yuzu and Gongenzaka) vs. Lighter Grey (Yuto [[spoiler:plus [[HeelFaceTurn Selena]]]]) vs. Darker Gray (the BigGood LDS, Kurosaki [[spoiler:and [[TheHero Yuya's]] [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Berserker mode]] for kicking only [[KickTheSonOfABitch assholes]]]]) vs. Black ([[spoiler:[[AcademyOfEvil the]] [[ForTheEvulz Aca]][[LackOfEmpathy de]][[WarForFunAndProfit mia]]]]). Yugo [[spoiler:and the Synchro Dimension]] didn't appear enough to sort into these shade of conflict while a few of the AssholeVictim are just {{Jerkass}}. [[spoiler:Sora]] seems to go from Dark Gray to Black with a few PetTheDog moments.moments, before beginning a HeelFaceTurn due to a HeelRealization. Unusual for a ''[[Franchise/YuGiOh YGO]]'' franchise because it focuses on [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters a lot more characters]] at the same time than its predecessors, allow for more shades of conflict during one arc. More amazingly, the anime has a change in [[GenreShift genre]] and in morality within only about ''30'' episodes, impressive for a Shonen series.
** There's also some work put into showing how characters who do evil things think and why they do what they do. While there are evil Mooks and TheDreaded, [[spoiler: Sora]] and [[spoiler: Dennis]] both have a lot of humanizing traits. [[spoiler: Serena]] shows the mentality that leads people to becoming Black, since she wanted to be [[spoiler: a soldier]] until she stopped to consider that her victims might be ''innocent''. [[spoiler: Sora]] suffers from a bad case of FantasticRacism, but is shown to have grown up with no friends, trained not to ask questions and obey orders unquestioningly, and [[spoiler: starts thinking for himself and avoiding commands [[MoralityPet once he makes real friends for the first time in his life.]]]] life,]] and begins to have a HeelRealization.]] When at his worst, he also acts no different than the various one-off Mooks and it's strongly implied that his situation and mentality [[spoiler: minus [[BecomingTheMask having found friends in Standard]]]] is the same as the Mooks.Mooks. All the characters from [[spoiler:Academia]] seem to see themselves as ProudWarriorRaceGuys with UndyingLoyalty to their leader, even the nastier characters [[spoiler:like Yuri]]. [[spoiler: Kurosaki]] is a [[spoiler: genocide survivor]] and a ShellShockedVeteran trying to rescue his friends and family, who has become paranoid and [[WellIntentionedExtremist ruthless]] due to all he's lost. While he's hostile to [[spoiler:the Lancers and Reiji]] despite them saving his life, one has to remember that he has good reasons to hold them at arms length[[note]]Dennis was TheMole, Reiji tampered with his duel disk, the Lancers all work for Reiji, he doesn't actually know anything about most of them or have anything in common with them, and LDS ''was'' built by Leo Akaba[[/note]], and furthermore shows a much friendlier side to people he can be certain are in no way related to his enemies. Reiji's invasion of privacy and ruthlessness has saved the lives of the three LID students and enabled him to ensure that [[spoiler: his dimension isn't caught by surprise and destroyed the same way the Xyz dimension was]]. [[spoiler: Duel Chaser 227]] is a CorruptCop who became one in order to avoid poverty. Most of [[spoiler: the Tops]] actually believe the lie that they are equals and friends with [[spoiler: the Commons]], when they're actually the oppressive ruling class in a CrapsackWorld. [[spoiler: [[TheScrappy The Commons]]]] are starving and manipulated by their oppressors BreadAndCircuses, but while the crowd can be nasty every individual member that we meet is genuinely nice or has a HiddenHeartOfGold somewhere. [[spoiler: Shinji]] truly believes the only way to change the system is through violent revolution and PR manipulation just as bad as what his oppressors use. [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Jean-Michel Roget is just a greedy bastard]].
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