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15th Jun '18 9:17:25 AM Tacitus
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** Wraith Squadron, on the other hand, is a RagTagBunchOfMisfits, and Wedge walks a line between humoring their quirks and keeping order. When a pilot interrupts him during the first briefing Wedge puts him PeelingPotatoes; afterward the Wraiths keep making wisecracks during briefings, but don't interrupt their commander unless it's really important. He allows romances between squadmates, but public displays of attention are to saved for off-hours or light duty. When one Wraith attacks another in a brawl Wedge formally reprimands and grounds her, but later decides to lie about her involvement in an incident (just short of committing perjury) to keep her in his squadron. And when a rookie pilot slouches off after arguing with Wedge, he admits that he'd take that sort of disrespect from someone who's flown on some missions with him.

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** Wraith Squadron, on the other hand, is a RagTagBunchOfMisfits, and Wedge walks a line between humoring their quirks and keeping order. When a pilot interrupts him during the first briefing Wedge puts him PeelingPotatoes; afterward the Wraiths keep making wisecracks during briefings, but don't interrupt their commander unless it's really important. He allows romances between squadmates, but public displays of attention affection are to saved for off-hours or light duty. When one Wraith attacks another in a brawl Wedge formally reprimands and grounds her, but later decides to lie about her involvement in an incident (just short of committing perjury) to keep her in his squadron. And when a rookie pilot slouches off after arguing with Wedge, he admits that he'd take that sort of disrespect from someone who's flown on some missions with him.



** EXALT, the XCOM's EvilCounterpart, is made of people dressed in business suits and ties (their EliteMooks have a bulletproof vest over it), SinisterShades and a bandanna over the face. [[JustifiedTrope Then again, despite being well trained and well equipped, EXALT operatives are not soldiers, but simple civilians attempting to take advantage of the]] AlienInvasion to TakeOverTheWorld.
** In the ADVENT-ruled future of VideoGame/{{XCOM 2}}, your guerilla forces are far more informal than one would expect of special forces. Granted, apart from the few survivors of the original XCOM and any ex-military veterans, most of your operatives here are from civilian backgrounds and the desperate battle to oust ADVENT and their alien masters has been raging hard for two decades. Of course, Bradford and any by-the-book operatives you might retain will still hold on to whatever shreds of discipline and protocol they can afford to preserve.

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** EXALT, the XCOM's EvilCounterpart, is made of people dressed in [[WaistcoatOfStyle business suits vests]] and ties (their EliteMooks have a bulletproof vest over it), SinisterShades ties, SinisterShades, and a bandanna over the face. face - only their {{Elite Mook}}s wear {{Bulletproof Vest}}s. [[JustifiedTrope Then again, despite being well trained well-trained and well equipped, well-equipped, EXALT operatives are not soldiers, soldiers,]] but simple civilians attempting members of a global conspiracy who occasionally take a break from their civilian jobs to take advantage of the]] the AlienInvasion to TakeOverTheWorld.
** In the ADVENT-ruled future of VideoGame/{{XCOM 2}}, ''VideoGame/{{XCOM 2}}'', Central Officer Bradford is as professional as ever (if more cynical), as are any soldiers with the "By-The-Book" personality, but most of your guerilla forces guerillas are far more informal than one would expect of any conventional special forces. Granted, apart from forces team, which is only to be expected when the few survivors of the original XCOM and any ex-military veterans, most of your operatives here majority are coming from civilian backgrounds and the desperate battle to oust ADVENT and their after two decades of alien masters has been raging hard for two decades. Of course, Bradford and any by-the-book operatives you might retain will still hold on to whatever shreds of discipline and protocol they can afford to preserve.oppression.
13th Jun '18 3:26:22 PM darkemyst
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* Played with in ''Webcomic/LighterThanHeir''. The majority of the military does run on fairly tight discipline. The squad of the protagonists...not so much. The military brass doesn't seem overly concerned, [[spoiler:because they are more focused on the possibility of the war re-starting]].
3rd Jun '18 2:39:01 AM TheRedSnifit
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* Blackwatch from ''VideoGame/Prototype'' have no ranks or protocol, belittle and mock their officers, and deliberately use improper radio terms ("over and out!"). The [[VideoGame/Prototype2 sequel]] takes it up to eleven for laughs, Blackwatch goons can do pretty much whatever they want as long as they shoot anybody who looks at them funny.

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* Blackwatch from ''VideoGame/Prototype'' ''VideoGame/{{Prototype}}'' have no ranks or protocol, belittle and mock their officers, and deliberately use improper radio terms ("over and out!"). terminology ("kill confirmed, over aaaand oouuuuut."). The [[VideoGame/Prototype2 sequel]] takes it up to eleven for laughs, Blackwatch goons can do pretty much whatever they want as long as they [[SociopathicSoldier shoot anybody who looks at them funny.funny]].
3rd Jun '18 2:37:17 AM TheRedSnifit
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* Blackwatch from ''VideoGame/Prototype'' have no ranks or protocol, belittle and mock their officers, and deliberately use improper radio terms ("over and out!"). The [[VideoGame/Prototype2 sequel]] takes it up to eleven for laughs, Blackwatch goons can do pretty much whatever they want as long as they shoot anybody who looks at them funny.
7th May '18 3:53:21 PM Discar
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* ''Webcomic/TerminalLance'': {{Downplayed}}. When the strip isn't going off in some wildly unrealistic fantasy arc (e.g. "Revenge of the Dependapotomus"), it's simply a vehicle for relating what Marines think and feel during the--often ridiculous, but very real--events of military life.
* [=TerSA=] in ''Webcomic/{{Galaxion}}'' is Mildly Military, but the eponymous ship's crew takes it UpToEleven with their [[TeamMom mama captain]] Fusella Miertier. They're really [[TrueCompanions one big family]].




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* [=TerSA=] in ''Webcomic/{{Galaxion}}'' is Mildly Military, but the eponymous ship's crew takes it UpToEleven with their [[TeamMom mama captain]] Fusella Miertier. They're really [[TrueCompanions one big family]].
* ''Webcomic/GrrlPower'':
** Played with. Arc-SWAT is a military organization, and members are given ranks and expected to act appropriately befitting those ranks. They're even given basic training including firearms, despite the fact that most of them are more lethal than the average tank. That being said, supers are incredibly rare, so the team is forced to take what they can get. It seems like ninety percent of them spend half their time in remedial PR courses. On the plus side, dress code is relaxed.
--->'''Varia:''' ''[regarding a feather in her hair]'' If anyone asks, it's for religious reasons.\\
'''Sydney:''' Maxima has gold skin and Harem is wearing purple lipstick. I think you're okay.
** Maxima, the commanding officer, spends a lot of time snapping at her subordinates for their lax behavior, but in the end she doesn't come down on them ''too'' hard. TheRant mentions that she gets ribbed a bit for this at the big DOD dinners, but [[BunnyEarsLawyer as long as her people get results]], she doesn't care too much.
* ''Webcomic/TerminalLance'': {{Downplayed}}. When the strip isn't going off in some wildly unrealistic fantasy arc (e.g. "Revenge of the Dependapotomus"), it's simply a vehicle for relating what Marines think and feel during the--often ridiculous, but very real--events of military life.
9th Apr '18 11:11:21 AM Jake
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* In ''Literature/TheLostFleet'' series the Alliance navy has become this after a century of constant warfare and massive attrition in the officer ranks. Neither officers or enlisted personal salute anymore and ship captains actually get to vote on the fleet commanders battle strategy. When Jack Geary is put in charge of the fleet he reintroduces saluting and makes sure that his orders are followed without any voting. His main problem is that he does not have enough senior competent officers to replace all the idiots and glory hounds who refuse to follow his orders. The only units who still maintain proper military discipline are the Marine detachments. However, even they are frequently subject to this due to the insistence of ship and fleet commanders on micromanaging their actions during ground and boarding engagements. It is a little strange that this is allowed, as Marines are supposed to have their own chain of command. Another strange (and idiotic) thing that appears to be par for the course is the fact that, whenever a ship commander is rescued from captivity, he or she immediately demands to be put in command of an appropriate ship. The current ship commander is expected to be reassigned elsewhere. Geary is incredulous and initially assumes it's a joke. After all, why would anyone replace a competent ship commander, who, likely, has a good working relationship with the crew, with someone who has spent months or even years as a prisoner-of-war, simply because of seniority? After all, the person who's currently in command of that ship has earned that right, and reassigning him or her in favor of some GloryHound would be an unfair punishment.

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* In ''Literature/TheLostFleet'' series the Alliance navy has become this after a century of constant warfare and massive attrition in the officer ranks. Neither officers or enlisted personal salute anymore and ship captains actually get to vote on the fleet commanders battle strategy. When Jack Geary is put in charge of the fleet he reintroduces saluting and makes sure that his orders are followed without any voting. His main problem is that he does not have enough senior competent officers to replace all the idiots and glory hounds who refuse to follow his orders. The only units who still maintain proper military discipline are the Marine detachments. However, even they are frequently subject to this due to the insistence of ship and fleet commanders on micromanaging their actions during ground and boarding engagements. It is a little strange that this is allowed, as Marines are supposed to have their own chain of command. Another strange (and idiotic) thing that appears to be par for the course is the fact that, whenever a ship commander is rescued from captivity, he or she immediately demands to be put in command of an appropriate ship. The current ship commander is expected to be reassigned elsewhere. Geary is incredulous and initially assumes it's a joke. After all, why would anyone replace a competent ship commander, who, likely, has a good working relationship with the crew, with someone who has spent months or even years as a prisoner-of-war, simply because of seniority? After all, the person who's currently in command of that ship has earned that right, and reassigning him or her in favor of some GloryHound would be an unfair punishment. The only reason the war's been grinding on for a century of brutal, bloody stalemate is because the military of [[OneNationUnderCopyright the Syndicate Worlds]] are as bad or worse, with a command structure that's half feudal and half ''office politics''. [[spoiler: That a third-party is subtly playing both sides against the middle to keep humanity's two largest power blocs squabbling amongst themselves probably has something to do with all the above.]]
30th Mar '18 5:33:28 PM Malady
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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', this is mostly played straight by the [[StarWars Trans-Galactic Republic]]. Especially the case compared to the more resource-constrained Citadel races as Star Destroyers are both [[BiggerIsBetter larger]] and [[StarshipLuxurious more comfortable]] due to being [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien more advanced technologically]] wherein building such opulent ships isn't really an issue. Furthermore, the politicians of the Home Galaxy have made the seemingly-silly distinction that the Trans-Galactic Republic [[ExactWords has no military]], only "protection" forces (Spacelane, Planetside). Hence, on [[LoopholeAbuse that technicality]], being "non-military" fits, even if the ships are [[MileLongShip huge]] and [[TheBattlestar armed to the teeth]]. Never mind that the legal system still calls it "Standardized Regulations of ''Military'' Law." This is even lampshaded--something along the lines of "We follow the parts that help us do our jobs, but ignore things like 'rules regarding hair length.'"

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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', ''Fanfic/{{Origins}}'', this is mostly played straight by the [[StarWars Trans-Galactic Republic]]. Especially the case compared to the more resource-constrained Citadel races as Star Destroyers are both [[BiggerIsBetter larger]] and [[StarshipLuxurious more comfortable]] due to being [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien more advanced technologically]] wherein building such opulent ships isn't really an issue. Furthermore, the politicians of the Home Galaxy have made the seemingly-silly distinction that the Trans-Galactic Republic [[ExactWords has no military]], only "protection" forces (Spacelane, Planetside). Hence, on [[LoopholeAbuse that technicality]], being "non-military" fits, even if the ships are [[MileLongShip huge]] and [[TheBattlestar armed to the teeth]]. Never mind that the legal system still calls it "Standardized Regulations of ''Military'' Law." This is even lampshaded--something along the lines of "We follow the parts that help us do our jobs, but ignore things like 'rules regarding hair length.'"
30th Mar '18 5:32:00 PM Malady
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* Oddly enough, The Wehrmacht. No army in [=WW2=] allowed their soldiers to grow their hair as long (which made German soldiers something of a darling among the ladies, foreign and domestic) but punishments for uniform violations were quite lax and completly took the backseat when the war started going. It also helped that the new Infantry Manual called for self-imposed discipline, self-imposed by the soldier himself for reason of love of his comrades, his country or professionalism, instead of imposing discipline from an outside source.

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* Oddly enough, The Wehrmacht. No army in [=WW2=] allowed their soldiers to grow their hair as long (which made German soldiers something of a darling among the ladies, foreign and domestic) but punishments for uniform violations were quite lax and completly completely took the backseat when the war started going. It also helped that the new Infantry Manual called for self-imposed discipline, self-imposed by the soldier himself for reason of love of his comrades, his country or professionalism, instead of imposing discipline from an outside source.
30th Mar '18 5:29:26 PM Malady
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** They also, due to their role, don't adhere to the same hygene disciplines that other soldiers need to adhere to. They are often behind enemy lines, or far ahead of regular units, so asking them to bathe and shave on a regular basis would be dumb. That's why there are so many photos out there [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4mf2jybWd1qiz36go1_1280.jpg of special forces operatives]] [[http://static.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/207/714207.jpg with scruffy hair and beards]] somewhere between "lumberjack" and "Music/ZZTop"

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** They also, due to their role, don't adhere to the same hygene hygiene disciplines that other soldiers need to adhere to. They are often behind enemy lines, or far ahead of regular units, so asking them to bathe and shave on a regular basis would be dumb. That's why there are so many photos out there [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4mf2jybWd1qiz36go1_1280.jpg of special forces operatives]] [[http://static.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/207/714207.jpg with scruffy hair and beards]] somewhere between "lumberjack" and "Music/ZZTop"
20th Mar '18 11:02:15 PM Shadeblade11
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** They also, due to their role, don't adhere to the same hygene disciplines that other soldiers need to adhere to. They are often behind enemy lines, or far ahead of regular units, so asking them to bathe and shave on a regular basis would be dumb. That's why there are [[http://www.duffelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1373499.jpeg so many]] [[http://www.warshipsifr.com/LegacySite/media/May-India-Company-Beard.jpg photos out there]] [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4mf2jybWd1qiz36go1_1280.jpg of special forces operatives]] [[http://static.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/207/714207.jpg with scruffy hair and beards]] somewhere between "lumberjack" and "Music/ZZTop"

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** They also, due to their role, don't adhere to the same hygene disciplines that other soldiers need to adhere to. They are often behind enemy lines, or far ahead of regular units, so asking them to bathe and shave on a regular basis would be dumb. That's why there are [[http://www.duffelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1373499.jpeg so many]] [[http://www.warshipsifr.com/LegacySite/media/May-India-Company-Beard.jpg many photos out there]] there [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4mf2jybWd1qiz36go1_1280.jpg of special forces operatives]] [[http://static.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/207/714207.jpg with scruffy hair and beards]] somewhere between "lumberjack" and "Music/ZZTop"
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