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28th Jun '17 1:00:30 PM isolato
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* Most police forces. They have military ranks and follow many military ways, but are supposed to be a civilian force (in Britain and the U.S. they are now called a "service" or "department" instead of a "force" but...). Unfortunately, in the U.S., because of "the [[DrugsAreBad War on Drugs]]" and "TheWarOnTerror", for the past 25 years or so they have become more and more militarized and the training or reforms that can help reduce unintended incidents and outrage is just not there.

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* Most police forces. They sometimes have military ranks and follow many military ways, but are supposed to be a civilian force (in Britain and the U.S. they are now called a "service" or "department" instead of a "force" but...). Unfortunately, in the U.S., because of "the [[DrugsAreBad War on Drugs]]" and "TheWarOnTerror", for the past 25 years or so they have become more and more militarized and the training or reforms that can help reduce unintended incidents and outrage is just not there.
28th Jun '17 10:58:34 AM nightkiller
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* Most police forces. They have military ranks and follow many military ways, but are supposed to be a civilian force (in Britain they are now called a "service" instead of a "force" but...). Unfortunately, in the U.S., because of "the [[DrugsAreBad War on Drugs]]" and "TheWarOnTerror", for the past 25 years or so they have become more and more militarized and the training or reforms that can help reduce unintended incidents and outrage is just not there.

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* Most police forces. They have military ranks and follow many military ways, but are supposed to be a civilian force (in Britain and the U.S. they are now called a "service" or "department" instead of a "force" but...). Unfortunately, in the U.S., because of "the [[DrugsAreBad War on Drugs]]" and "TheWarOnTerror", for the past 25 years or so they have become more and more militarized and the training or reforms that can help reduce unintended incidents and outrage is just not there.
25th Jun '17 12:53:32 AM Mooncalf
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* In ''VideoGame/ExitFate'', your officers don't adhere to any kind of uniform or armament standard, preferring to wear whatever they're comfortable with (suits, pimped-out dresses, ceremonial robes, lab coats, longcoats, bikini tops, ''the actual uniform of the enemy''...) and stick with their preferred weapon of choice. This is because they are unusually gifted individuals rather than rank-and-file troops, and would probably not have joined were it not for the unusual charisma of the protagonist. The ''actual'' soldiers wear proper uniforms.
18th Jun '17 10:42:55 PM GrammarNavi
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* ''Manga/KuroganePukapukaTai'' is a ''huge'' example of this trope. The heroines are part of the ([[TheOneGuy nearly]]) all-female crew of a Japanese cruiser in UsefulNotes/{{WWII}}, who run into a German U-boat (crewed mostly by women) and later a British destroyer (captained entirely by women). [[YuriGenre Romantic entanglements ensue]]. Not to mention the chief engineer challenging the XO to a fistfight over the placement of a crew member.

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* ''Manga/KuroganePukapukaTai'' is a ''huge'' example of this trope. The heroines are part of the ([[TheOneGuy nearly]]) all-female crew of a Japanese cruiser in UsefulNotes/{{WWII}}, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, who run into a German U-boat (crewed mostly by women) and later a British destroyer (captained entirely by women). [[YuriGenre Romantic entanglements ensue]]. Not to mention the chief engineer challenging the XO to a fistfight over the placement of a crew member.
17th Jun '17 1:18:20 PM nombretomado
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*** A French military joke from WW1 goes about how an officer was complaining about the poor state of upkeep of a forward post during an inspection. The post commander, slightly annoyed, merely commented "When I am a guest, I am polite enough to not complain about the host's house." Similarly it was common towards the end of WW1 for some of the worse off armies (e.g. Austria-Hungary) to have only one presentable dress uniform shared by all officers within a company or even a battalion for when they were summoned to HQ.

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*** A French military joke from WW1 UsefulNotes/WorldWarI goes about how an officer was complaining about the poor state of upkeep of a forward post during an inspection. The post commander, slightly annoyed, merely commented "When I am a guest, I am polite enough to not complain about the host's house." Similarly it was common towards the end of WW1 [=WW1=] for some of the worse off armies (e.g. Austria-Hungary) to have only one presentable dress uniform shared by all officers within a company or even a battalion for when they were summoned to HQ.
11th Jun '17 5:33:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* Then there's the webcomic ''GoneWithTheBlastwave''. The leadership of the main characters' army is so lax they hand out promotions based solely upon killcount, and soldiers can cheerfully wander off, get lost, desert, or '''make coffee on a funeral pyre''' with no comeuppance. As one character put it: "Why haven't we lost this war yet?"

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* Then there's the webcomic ''GoneWithTheBlastwave''.''Webcomic/GoneWithTheBlastwave''. The leadership of the main characters' army is so lax they hand out promotions based solely upon killcount, and soldiers can cheerfully wander off, get lost, desert, or '''make coffee on a funeral pyre''' with no comeuppance. As one character put it: "Why haven't we lost this war yet?"
22nd May '17 2:09:33 PM brianify
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** Not to mention, Delenn is no ordinary ambassador, but the ambassador of the Mimbari: the race which, due to an unprovoked human attack on their ruling council (which included Delenn), had within the last few years fought a [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomp war]] against the human race that nearly ended in humanity's extinction. With that track record, a human giving Delenn anything other than foot-kissing reverence or a wide berth should be considered suicidally stupid.
14th May '17 5:00:50 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Traveller}}''. The IISS is famous through the Imperium for its studied informality. Justified in that it is not a military organization as such (though it takes part in warfare) but an exploratory, intelligence, and scientific institution. Zig-zagged back in that the IISS maintains militaristic [[SpacePolice Space Swat Teams]] for various peculiar duties associated with their missions (say extracting an agent in danger, or recovering equipment that it would be inconvenient if the natives find it). We see the Imperium's other military forces (the Army and the Marines) are detailed in later supplements -- their own degree of discipline ranges from "comparable to the best armies in the modern-day setting" on up to "the Wehrmacht called and said 'Dear God, tone it down'."

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* ''{{Traveller}}''.''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}''. The IISS is famous through the Imperium for its studied informality. Justified in that it is not a military organization as such (though it takes part in warfare) but an exploratory, intelligence, and scientific institution. Zig-zagged back in that the IISS maintains militaristic [[SpacePolice Space Swat Teams]] for various peculiar duties associated with their missions (say extracting an agent in danger, or recovering equipment that it would be inconvenient if the natives find it). We see the Imperium's other military forces (the Army and the Marines) are detailed in later supplements -- their own degree of discipline ranges from "comparable to the best armies in the modern-day setting" on up to "the Wehrmacht called and said 'Dear God, tone it down'."
2nd May '17 6:33:44 PM nombretomado
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** The Autobots we see are almost always a military contingent... and always act like they're just guys on vacation. Particularly notable with the obligatory [[KidAppealCharacter Bumblebee]], who generally acts like a TagalongKid on a military mission who somehow managed to get a formal rank instead of being shooed away or receiving proper training. Even when there ''is'' [[TransformersAnimated proper training]], he will act like he just got out of elementary school and doesn't feel like doing his homework today.
** In WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime, the Autobots on Earth are a close-knit group who acknowledge Optimus Prime as their leader but don't bother to stand on ceremony; he's very much a TeamMom and TeamDad in one instead of a regular military leader, it helps that the 'Bots have so much respect for him. Plus, they've been together longer than humans have existed; Arcee even calls them a "[[TrueCompanions family]]" when asked if Bumblebee was her friend.

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** The Autobots we see are almost always a military contingent... and always act like they're just guys on vacation. Particularly notable with the obligatory [[KidAppealCharacter Bumblebee]], who generally acts like a TagalongKid on a military mission who somehow managed to get a formal rank instead of being shooed away or receiving proper training. Even when there ''is'' [[TransformersAnimated [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated proper training]], he will act like he just got out of elementary school and doesn't feel like doing his homework today.
** In WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime, ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', the Autobots on Earth are a close-knit group who acknowledge Optimus Prime as their leader but don't bother to stand on ceremony; he's very much a TeamMom and TeamDad in one instead of a regular military leader, it helps that the 'Bots have so much respect for him. Plus, they've been together longer than humans have existed; Arcee even calls them a "[[TrueCompanions family]]" when asked if Bumblebee was her friend.



** Also justified in WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated, where Optimus's crew are not, in fact, military. Prime is a military academy washout, Ratchet is a semi-retired medic, Prowl actively avoids military service for philosophical reasons, and Bumblebee and Bulkhead are just low-lever slacker drones. The military Autobots that show up later are more professional, if still not that firm in discipline, but they tend to be the Autobot equivalent of Special Forces (see Real Life below).

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** Also justified in WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated, ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'', where Optimus's crew are not, in fact, military. Prime is a military academy washout, Ratchet is a semi-retired medic, Prowl actively avoids military service for philosophical reasons, and Bumblebee and Bulkhead are just low-lever slacker drones. The military Autobots that show up later are more professional, if still not that firm in discipline, but they tend to be the Autobot equivalent of Special Forces (see Real Life below).
30th Apr '17 2:41:43 PM fearlessnikki
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* ''Film/{{Aliens}}'':
** James Cameron has admitted that the {{Space Marine}}s came off as a lot less disciplined than actual Marines; rather, they were more a reflection of Vietnam-era regular Army conscripts. Some specific examples:

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* ''Film/{{Aliens}}'':
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''Film/{{Aliens}}'' - James Cameron has admitted that the {{Space Marine}}s came off as a lot less disciplined than actual Marines; rather, they were more a reflection of Vietnam-era regular Army conscripts.conscripts. The behaviour is semi justified by TheReveal of [[spoiler: Burke's plan to bring the xenomorphs back to the company]] and the fact that the inexperienced Lt Gorman is in charge. Some specific examples:



** After Gorman is incapacitated and Apone is captured by the xenomorphs, Corporal Hicks is in command (as Ripley herself points out later). However, Ripley (who is a civilian) starts giving the Marines orders. Not only does Hicks allow this, but ''the other Marines obey her''.

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** After Gorman is incapacitated and Apone is captured by the xenomorphs, Corporal Hicks is in command (as Ripley herself points out later). However, Ripley (who is a civilian) starts giving the Marines orders. Not only does Hicks allow this, but ''the other Marines obey her''. Of course this one is just about justified by the Marines knowing that Ripley is an expert on the aliens but still.



** This is all probably justified given that Burke tells Ripley of his plan to smuggle developing xenomorphs through quarantine inside infected soldiers, so he probably made sure that the squad assigned to the mission was the biggest bunch of screw-ups he could fined.



** Female Rangers (the film is not set in the future and not in an alternate universe).
** SocietyMarchesOn: as of august 20, 2015 there are two female graduates from [[TrainingFromHell Ranger School]]

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** Female Rangers (the film is not set in the future and not in an alternate universe).
** SocietyMarchesOn:
rangers, though as of august 20, 2015 there are two have been female graduates from [[TrainingFromHell Ranger School]]the training.



* In ''{{Film/Stripes}}'' most of the haircuts the recruits receive at boot camp are far too long for army regulation.



* ''PowerRangersSPD'' features Space Patrol Delta, a military/police organization that primarily acts as law enforcement and fights off attacks on Earth. The Rangers are ranked as cadets, there's a distinct and rigid chain of command, and in at least once case, a cadet is demoted for conduct unbecoming of his rank. However, the Rangers are given a lot of leeway when it comes to personal shenanigans and quirks--which is good, because they have a lot of them.


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* ''PowerRangersSPD'' ''Series/PowerRangersSPD'' features Space Patrol Delta, a military/police organization that primarily acts as law enforcement and fights off attacks on Earth. The Rangers are ranked as cadets, there's a distinct and rigid chain of command, and in at least once case, a cadet is demoted for conduct unbecoming of his rank. However, the Rangers are given a lot of leeway when it comes to personal shenanigans and quirks--which is good, because they have a lot of them.



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* During ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', the actors had to endure strict TrainingFromHell to get them into character as World War II soldiers. This was something they were required to keep up on set as well. New actors playing replacements did not get this and showed up on set - including a young Creator/TomHardy on his first job - with their uniforms on wrong, thoroughly annoying the original actors.
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