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22nd Jul '16 4:10:24 PM DarkHunter
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** Similarly averted in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Gundam 0083]]'', where Kou Uraki is court martialed for a year for his theft of the [=GP03=] (no matter how much one thinks it might be justified, that's just the way it is.) Captain Synapse took responsibility for it and was sentenced to death instead of Kou. He is eventually released because the Federation decides to do a cover up of their epic failure of losing almost half of their entire fleet (2/3 of what was present in the [[FlauntingYourFleets fleet inspection]]) to their own nuclear launching [=GP02A=] and failure to intercept the ColonyDrop afterwards. Once [[OrwellianEditor all trace of existence of the GP series were deleted]], Kou's sentence became unjust because he obviously cannot commit a GrandTheftPrototype of a non-existence Gundam, thus he is released 3 months after the court martial.

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** Similarly averted in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Gundam 0083]]'', where Kou Uraki is court martialed for a year for his theft of the [=GP03=] (no matter how much one thinks it might be justified, that's just the way it is.stealing top-secret military equipment is still punishable by death.) Captain Synapse took responsibility for it and was sentenced to death instead of Kou. He is eventually released because the Federation decides to do a cover up of their epic failure of losing almost half of their entire fleet (2/3 of what was present in the [[FlauntingYourFleets fleet inspection]]) to their own nuclear launching [=GP02A=] and failure to intercept the ColonyDrop afterwards. Once [[OrwellianEditor all trace of existence of the GP series were deleted]], Kou's sentence became unjust because he obviously cannot commit a GrandTheftPrototype of a non-existence non-existent Gundam, thus he is released 3 months after the court martial.
22nd Jul '16 4:25:35 AM AceOfScarabs
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** In the ADVENT-ruled future of VideoGame/{{XCOM 2}}, your guerilla forces are far more informal than one would expect of special forces. Granted, apart from the few survivors of the original XCOM and any ex-military veterans, most of your operatives here are from civilian backgrounds and the desperate battle to oust ADVENT and their alien masters has been raging hard for two decades. Of course, Bradford and any by-the-book operatives you might retain will still hold on to whatever shreds of discipline and protocol they can afford to preserve.
18th Jul '16 1:42:04 PM DaibhidC
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** The Doctor is officially "scientific advisor" but he has rank on almost everybody. Granted, this is a {{justified}} because, regardless of what his position is on paper, basically everyone at UNIT knows he's a time traveling alien after a while (and by New Who, young recruits worship the ground he walks on because of it) and know he knows what's he doing or that he will [[BavarianFireDrill just find some ridiculous protocol breaching reason to take control anyway]]. (From "Death in Heaven" onwards, he really ''does'' have rank on everyone since he's [[spoiler: officially ''President of Earth'', making him UNIT's Commander-in-Chief.]]

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** The Doctor is officially "scientific advisor" but he has rank on almost everybody. Granted, this is a {{justified}} because, regardless of what his position is on paper, basically everyone at UNIT knows he's a time traveling alien after a while (and by New Who, young recruits worship the ground he walks on because of it) and know he knows what's he doing or that he will [[BavarianFireDrill just find some ridiculous protocol breaching reason to take control anyway]]. (From "Death in Heaven" onwards, he really ''does'' have rank on everyone since he's [[spoiler: officially ''President of Earth'', making him UNIT's Commander-in-Chief.]]Commander-in-Chief]].)
18th Jul '16 1:41:30 PM DaibhidC
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** The Doctor is officially "scientific advisor" but he has rank on almost everybody. Granted, this is a {{justified}} because, regardless of what his position is on paper, basically everyone at UNIT knows he's a time traveling alien after a while (and by New Who, young recruits worship the ground he walks on because of it) and know he knows what's he doing or that he will [[BavarianFireDrill just find some ridiculous protocol breaching reason to take control anyway]].

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** The Doctor is officially "scientific advisor" but he has rank on almost everybody. Granted, this is a {{justified}} because, regardless of what his position is on paper, basically everyone at UNIT knows he's a time traveling alien after a while (and by New Who, young recruits worship the ground he walks on because of it) and know he knows what's he doing or that he will [[BavarianFireDrill just find some ridiculous protocol breaching reason to take control anyway]]. (From "Death in Heaven" onwards, he really ''does'' have rank on everyone since he's [[spoiler: officially ''President of Earth'', making him UNIT's Commander-in-Chief.]]
15th Jul '16 7:30:45 PM MarkWilder
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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'': Starfleet is both a military and an exploration and research organization, also acting as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gendarmerie top-level]] [[SpacePolice law enforcement]] and the [[GunboatDiplomacy advance scouts and bodyguards]] of TheFederation's diplomatic corps and intelligence network. It is a conglomeration of the US Navy and Coast Guard, the USMC, the United States Merchant Marine, the FBI, the CIA, the Department of State, the United Nations, UsefulNotes/{{NASA}} and a few research universities; a captain may need to think like Colin Powell or like Jacques Cousteau--or all of these may apply at once. To an extent, this came about by the involvement of [[DependingOnTheWriter many hands]]. GeneRoddenberry seemed to be inspired by the civilian space program ([[YanksWithTanks partially operated by the military]]). Nicholas Meyer was proudly making military sci-fi, while Creator/JJAbrams, on the other hand, takes a ''very'' hard line that Starfleet is ''not'' meant to be a military organization ''at all'', since his films insist that a military purpose defies starfleet's mission of peaceful exploration. Other screenwriters were just writing cop shows InSPACE, or sci-fi morality tales in the mode of TheTwilightZone, or whatever other genre they felt like that day. Sometimes characters within the story will comment on Starfleet's ambiguous position.
** Since GeneRoddenberry was in the Army Air Forces, one interpretation of the Mildly Military Starfleet is that it's a pilot's view of [[InterserviceRivalry what a cushy job the Navy has]].
* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' managed to play it both ways, with a Starfleet that resembles a military service less than it does in any other incarnation of the franchise. The [=MACOs=] (Military Assault Command Operations), however, are essentially Star Trek's answer to the Marine Corps. While taking a few minor liberties, the [=MACO=]s observe military protocol, wear camouflage uniforms, and use real-world small unit combat tactics. In their debut episode, the [=MACO=] commander even points out why having TheMainCharactersDoEverything is a bad idea; insisting that his team handle a combat situation on a planet surface so that Starfleet security personnel are available if ''Enterprise'' gets boarded.

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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'': Starfleet is both a military and an exploration and research organization, also acting as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gendarmerie top-level]] [[SpacePolice law enforcement]] and the [[GunboatDiplomacy advance scouts and bodyguards]] of TheFederation's diplomatic corps and intelligence network. It is a conglomeration of the US Navy and Coast Guard, the USMC, the United States Merchant Marine, the FBI, the CIA, the Department of State, the United Nations, UsefulNotes/{{NASA}} and a few research universities; a captain may need to think like Colin Powell or like Jacques Cousteau--or all of these may apply at once. To an extent, this came about by the involvement of [[DependingOnTheWriter many hands]]. GeneRoddenberry seemed to be inspired by suggested something like the civilian space program ([[YanksWithTanks partially if it were operated by the military]]). Nicholas Meyer military.]]) Since he was proudly making military sci-fi, while Creator/JJAbrams, on in the other hand, takes a Army Air Forces during World War II, it's ''very'' hard line likely that Starfleet is ''not'' meant to be some part of his experience had a part in shaping Star Trek. Nicholas Meyer was proudly made military organization ''at all'', since sci-fi, while Creator/JJAbrams has it stated verbatim in his films insist film that "Starfleet is a peace-keeping military purpose defies starfleet's mission of peaceful exploration. Other screenwriters were just writing cop shows InSPACE, or sci-fi morality tales in the mode of TheTwilightZone, or whatever other genre they felt like that day. armada". Sometimes characters within the story will comment on Starfleet's ambiguous position.
** Since GeneRoddenberry was
position. However, all in all, Captain Kirk says it best:
-->CHRISTOPHER: "Must have taken quite a lot to build a ship like this."
-->KIRK: "There are only twelve like it
in the Army Air Forces, one interpretation of fleet."
-->CHRISTOPHER: "I see. Did
the Mildly Military Starfleet is that it's Navy-"
-->KIRK: "We're
a pilot's view of [[InterserviceRivalry what a cushy job the Navy has]].
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combined service, Captain."
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''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' managed to play it both ways, with a takes place before Starfleet that became combined with the military. As a result, Starfleet resembles a military service less than it does in any other incarnation of the franchise. The [=MACOs=] (Military Assault Command Operations), however, are essentially Star Trek's the 22nd century answer to the Marine Corps. While taking a few minor liberties, the [=MACO=]s observe military protocol, wear camouflage uniforms, and use real-world small unit combat tactics. In their debut episode, the [=MACO=] commander even points out why having TheMainCharactersDoEverything is a bad idea; insisting that his team handle a combat situation on a planet surface so that Starfleet security personnel are available if ''Enterprise'' gets boarded.
11th Jul '16 1:28:39 PM thatmadork
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* The Freedom faction of ''VideoGame/{{STALKER}}'' are basically heavily-armed anarchists. They have no real rank structure and very few rules, so members casually refer to each other in a friendly manner and do whatever they feel like doing (or what they're good at). Alcohol and marijuana consumption is also common. However they're still a highly capable paramilitary force and able to give their main rival Duty a run for their money (Duty are [[{{Foil}} by contrast]] ''very'' militaristic and professional - in fact most of them are ex-soldiers).
11th Jul '16 12:02:22 PM ecuvulle6267
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* ''Manga/SgtFrog'': Done intentionally, the squad is lazy and incompetent, and their only oversight is the reports Keroro has to send back to his superiors, in which he [[BlatantLies lies outrageously]].
1st Jul '16 10:36:07 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Justified in ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'', where the main characters are part of SMS, a civilian-run paramilitary branch who deploy as supplementary forces. As such, they are not actually under military law and can get away with a bit more.

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** Justified in ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'', ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' and ''Anime/MacrossDelta'', where the main characters are part of SMS, a either SMS or Chaos, civilian-run paramilitary branch paramilitaries who deploy as supplementary forces. As such, they are not actually under military law and can get away with a bit more.
29th Jun '16 3:17:50 PM powerpuffbats
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* Meanwhile, in Rooster Teeth's other major production, ''{{WebOriginal/RWBY}}'' has the main cast being Huntsmen college students who are training to use their native powers to defend the Kingdoms in which they serve, but the military and police forces are entirely separate from each other and the Huntsmen. The police and military are exactly as regimented as you'd think, but the Huntsmen are actually ''encouraged'' to be as free-spirited, distinct, colorful, and individualistic as they can be without sacrificing efficiency. This is justified in-universe as being a reaction to the three colossal wars fought eighty years before the 'present' day: a simultaneous civil rights war, fascist uprising, and international political war. The survivors of the three wars started naming their children after colors, to remember they had fought against fascists who wanted to stifle all forms of art and self-expression.

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* Meanwhile, in Rooster Teeth's other major production, ''{{WebOriginal/RWBY}}'' ''{{WebAnimation/RWBY}}'' has the main cast being Huntsmen college students who are training to use their native powers to defend the Kingdoms in which they serve, but the military and police forces are entirely separate from each other and the Huntsmen. The police and military are exactly as regimented as you'd think, but the Huntsmen are actually ''encouraged'' to be as free-spirited, distinct, colorful, and individualistic as they can be without sacrificing efficiency. This is justified in-universe as being a reaction to the three colossal wars fought eighty years before the 'present' day: a simultaneous civil rights war, fascist uprising, and international political war. The survivors of the three wars started naming their children after colors, to remember they had fought against fascists who wanted to stifle all forms of art and self-expression.
24th Jun '16 8:08:34 PM dlchen145
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* In the U.S., high school JROTC (when not at a MilitarySchool) is often this. Even in the top ten percent of programs, there are units that don't even do a military salute -- doesn't stop some ROTC people from giving off the opinion that they're super knowledgeable about warfare and trying to shout down people who know more than them, including people who have firsthand combat experience, just not with the US Military. Same goes for other paramilitary organizations affiliated with the U.S. military aimed at youths - Sea Cadets, Civil Air Patrol...

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* In the U.S., high school JROTC (when not at a MilitarySchool) is often this. Even in the top ten percent of programs, there are units that don't even do a military salute -- doesn't stop some ROTC people from giving off the opinion that they're super knowledgeable about warfare and trying to shout down people who know more than them, including people who have firsthand combat experience, just not with the US Military.salute. Same goes for other paramilitary organizations affiliated with the U.S. military aimed at youths - Sea Cadets, Civil Air Patrol...
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