History Main / MightMakesRight

3rd Oct '17 9:44:18 PM Psychadelico
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War, however, is extremely expensive, both in terms of actual money and in terms of human lives, and tends to leave both sides the poorer for it, which is why people are generally encouraged to settle conflicts with something ''other'' than their fists. This is where the "violence is evil" underlying assumption comes from: someone who resorts to violence must be too stupid to use any of the more peaceful conflict-resolution tools. Or worse, are actively looking for any PretextForWar. People and countries are often more than happy to use it as long as they're the ones with the power, but complain when it is applied to them.

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War, however, is extremely expensive, both in terms of actual money and in terms of human lives, and tends to leave both sides the poorer for it, which is why people are generally encouraged to settle conflicts with something ''other'' than their fists. [[note]]This applies to one-on-one fights as well, which is why most species, including humans, have developed elaborate threat displays and mock-fights. It's a lot better for both sides for one to realize they're outclassed and back down, than it is for both to keep at it until [[PyrrhicVictory one winds up dead, and the other probably maimed]].[[/note]] This is where the "violence is evil" underlying assumption comes from: someone who resorts to violence must be too stupid to use any of the more peaceful conflict-resolution tools. Or worse, are actively looking for any PretextForWar. People and countries are often more than happy to use it as long as they're the ones with the power, but complain when it is applied to them.



* RightMakesMight: Good always triumphs!

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* RightMakesMight: Good always triumphs!
triumphs! (Though [[TautologicalTemplar some]] [[StrawHypocrite characters]] try to invoke this trope as a means of justifying their own [[TheSocialDarwinist Social Darwinist]] tendencies.)
29th Mar '16 8:48:06 PM TheGreenHerring
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29th Mar '16 8:47:15 PM TheGreenHerring
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See also AppealToForce in LogicalFallacies. TheHedonist, when they are a powerful character, will usually use this logic. Related is MutuallyAssuredDestruction, when both sides are so powerful that peace is maintained precisely because both sides are too mighty to fight without destroying everything they were fighting for.
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See also AppealToForce in LogicalFallacies. TheHedonist, when they are a powerful character, will usually use this logic. Related is MutuallyAssuredDestruction, when both sides are so powerful that peace is maintained precisely because both sides are too mighty to fight without destroying everything they were fighting for.
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6th Mar '16 7:58:47 AM Discar
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->''The tragedy of Earth is not that so many died. Death is an inevitable part of life. The tragedy is that so many died as victims. When the crisis came, they were helpless, unable to use their deaths to buy anything of value. Millions of otherwise intelligent people had been tricked into ignoring a fundamental truth: that no man has any rights if he is unable to personally defend them.''

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->''The ->''"The tragedy of Earth is not that so many died. Death is an inevitable part of life. The tragedy is that so many died as victims. When the crisis came, they were helpless, unable to use their deaths to buy anything of value. Millions of otherwise intelligent people had been tricked into ignoring a fundamental truth: that no man has any rights if he is unable to personally defend them.''"''
22nd Nov '15 7:24:03 AM Nohbody
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->''The [[EarthThatWas tragedy of Earth]] [[LackOfEmpathy is not that so many died]]. Death is an inevitable part of life. The tragedy is that so many died as victims. When the crisis came, they were helpless, unable to use their deaths to buy anything of value. Millions of otherwise intelligent people had been tricked into ignoring a fundamental truth: that no man has any rights if he is unable to personally defend them.''

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->''The [[EarthThatWas tragedy of Earth]] [[LackOfEmpathy Earth is not that so many died]].died. Death is an inevitable part of life. The tragedy is that so many died as victims. When the crisis came, they were helpless, unable to use their deaths to buy anything of value. Millions of otherwise intelligent people had been tricked into ignoring a fundamental truth: that no man has any rights if he is unable to personally defend them.''
27th Sep '15 2:45:20 AM ragnarok235
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->''"Might controls everything."''
-->-- '''Vergil''' to Dante, ''DevilMayCry3DantesAwakening''

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->''"Might controls everything."''

->''The [[EarthThatWas tragedy of Earth]] [[LackOfEmpathy is not that so many died]]. Death is an inevitable part of life. The tragedy is that so many died as victims. When the crisis came, they were helpless, unable to use their deaths to buy anything of value. Millions of otherwise intelligent people had been tricked into ignoring a fundamental truth: that no man has any rights if he is unable to personally defend them.''
-->-- '''Vergil''' to Dante, ''DevilMayCry3DantesAwakening''
'''Col. Corazon Santiago''', "Planet: A Survivalist's Guide", ''VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri''
2nd Jul '15 5:46:23 PM shadowtoast102
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->''"Good and evil are just words. Power always wins."''
-->-- '''Dracula''', to Trevor Belmont, ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaJudgment''

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->''"Good and evil are just words. Power always wins.->''"Might controls everything."''
-->-- '''Dracula''', '''Vergil''' to Trevor Belmont, ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaJudgment''
Dante, ''DevilMayCry3DantesAwakening''
11th May '15 11:15:44 AM ChaoticNovelist
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"I am stronger than you, therefore, I make all the rules."

This very simple aphorism can be used by a character of virtually any level of intelligence. Usually they're explicitly evil, [[GoodIsNotNice usually]]. Bear in mind that anyone who espouses this belief will almost invariably be wrong - but the hero usually beats them by [[RightMakesMight somehow]] being stronger than they are so, well, the Aesop is [[BrokenAesop kind of broken]].

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"I am stronger than you, therefore, I make all the rules."

" This very simple aphorism can be used by a character of virtually any level of intelligence. Usually they're explicitly evil, [[GoodIsNotNice usually]]. Bear in mind that anyone who espouses this belief will almost invariably be wrong - but Whether it's the hero usually beats them by [[RightMakesMight somehow]] being stronger than thug with a club or a super genius with a kill sat, it is the same. Their power justifies whatever it is they are so, well, the Aesop is [[BrokenAesop kind of broken]].
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TruthInTelevision for the vast majority of human history, including today. Fortunately for those of us living in RealLife, people who espouse this philosophy are ''not'' always explicitly evil; in fact, the whole idea of [[KnightInShiningArmor Knights In Shining Armor]], True Warriors, and "ComesGreatResponsibility" is to espouse and encourage the ''virtuous'' use of power. The truth is that "Might" is a weapon like any other: its effects depend on s/he who wields it. It ''is'' possible to use might for good.

War, however, is extremely expensive, both in terms of actual money and in terms of human lives, and tends to leave both sides the poorer for it, which is why people are generally encouraged to settle conflicts with something ''other'' than their fists. This is where the "violence is evil" underlying assumption comes from: someone who resorts to violence must be too stupid to use any of the more peaceful conflict-resolution tools. Or worse, are actively looking for any PretextForWar.

Of course, people and countries are often more than happy to use it as long as they're the ones with the power, but complain when it is applied to them.

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TruthInTelevision for the vast majority of human history, including today. Fortunately for those of us living in RealLife, people who espouse this philosophy are ''not'' always explicitly evil; in fact, the whole idea of [[KnightInShiningArmor Knights In Shining Armor]], True Warriors, and "ComesGreatResponsibility" is to espouse and encourage the ''virtuous'' use of power. The truth is that "Might" is a weapon like any other: its effects depend on s/he who wields it. It ''is'' possible to use might for good.

War, however, is extremely expensive, both in terms of actual money and in terms of human lives, and tends to leave both sides the poorer for it, which is why people are generally encouraged to settle conflicts with something ''other'' than their fists. This is where the "violence is evil" underlying assumption comes from: someone who resorts to violence must be too stupid to use any of the more peaceful conflict-resolution tools. Or worse, are actively looking for any PretextForWar.

Of course, people
PretextForWar. People and countries are often more than happy to use it as long as they're the ones with the power, but complain when it is applied to them.
16th Nov '14 3:49:29 PM Luigifan
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TruthInTelevision for the vast majority of human history, including today. Fortunately for those of us living in RealLife, people who espouse this philosophy are ''not'' always explicitly evil; in fact, the whole idea of [[KnightInShiningArmor Knights In Shining Armor]], True Warriors and "ComesGreatResponsibility" is to espouse and encourage the ''virtuous'' use of power. The truth is that "Might" is a weapon like any other: its effects depend on s/he who wields it. It ''is'' possible to use might for good.

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TruthInTelevision for the vast majority of human history, including today. Fortunately for those of us living in RealLife, people who espouse this philosophy are ''not'' always explicitly evil; in fact, the whole idea of [[KnightInShiningArmor Knights In Shining Armor]], True Warriors Warriors, and "ComesGreatResponsibility" is to espouse and encourage the ''virtuous'' use of power. The truth is that "Might" is a weapon like any other: its effects depend on s/he who wields it. It ''is'' possible to use might for good.
28th Apr '14 7:28:39 AM ragnarok235
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->''"Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must."''
-->-- '''Creator/{{Thucydides}}''', the ''Melian Dialogue''

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->''"Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can ->''"Good and the weak suffer what they must.evil are just words. Power always wins."''
-->-- '''Creator/{{Thucydides}}''', the ''Melian Dialogue''
'''Dracula''', to Trevor Belmont, ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaJudgment''
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