History Main / MexicoCalledTheyWantTexasBack

1st Nov '17 10:33:27 PM StClair
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** During the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, due to the fact Germany's eastern border wasn't definitively fixed, UsefulNotes/TheBonnRepublic was making the following sentence resume its policy toward the East : Germany called, they want the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_eastern_territories_of_Germany Ostgebiete]]'' back. This ended after the end of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, by which Germany recognized the borders and abandoned its claim to Eastern territories. This has also become mute with the European Union and the Schengen Visa allowing Germans to travel back to their ancestral homes in Silesia and Pomerania.

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** During the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, due to the fact Germany's eastern border wasn't definitively fixed, UsefulNotes/TheBonnRepublic was making the following sentence resume its policy toward the East : Germany called, they want the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_eastern_territories_of_Germany Ostgebiete]]'' back. This ended after the end of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, by which Germany recognized the borders and abandoned its claim to Eastern territories. This has also become mute moot with the European Union and the Schengen Visa allowing Germans to travel back to their ancestral homes in Silesia and Pomerania.
27th Oct '17 6:11:55 PM paradisedj32
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* In the [[VideoGame/KaiserreichLegacyOfTheWeltkrieg Kaiserreich]] mod for [[VideoGame/HeartsOfIron Darkest Hour]], if the [[DividedStatesOfAmerica Second American Civil War]] breaks out Mexico has the option of seizing the opportunity to try and reclaim the lost border territories.
23rd Oct '17 4:19:15 AM IdumeanPatriot
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* Since ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' chronicles the downfall of the United States and the rise of the American successor states, this is present:
** As America declines and the corrupt Federal Government comes to depend more and more on minorities to support its ruthless rule, President Warner eventually agrees with Mexican nationalist leaders to establish a condominium over Texas, Arizona and Newmex. This backfires, however, as the locals rebel, and end up destroying most of the Mexican army in the ensuing war. The resultant power vacuum then allows the [[ReligionOfEvil Aztecs]] to seize power in Mexico itself.
** Another, roughly concurrent civil war in California sees that state split. The Hispanic-dominated southern part is apparently annexed by the Mexicans, whereas the north becomes a transhumanist, culturally homosexual Silicon Valley state.
21st Oct '17 2:55:19 PM nombretomado
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** During the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, due to the fact Germany's eastern border wasn't definitively fixed, TheBonnRepublic was making the following sentence resume its policy toward the East : Germany called, they want the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_eastern_territories_of_Germany Ostgebiete]]'' back. This ended after the end of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, by which Germany recognized the borders and abandoned its claim to Eastern territories. This has also become mute with the European Union and the Schengen Visa allowing Germans to travel back to their ancestral homes in Silesia and Pomerania.

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** During the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, due to the fact Germany's eastern border wasn't definitively fixed, TheBonnRepublic UsefulNotes/TheBonnRepublic was making the following sentence resume its policy toward the East : Germany called, they want the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_eastern_territories_of_Germany Ostgebiete]]'' back. This ended after the end of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, by which Germany recognized the borders and abandoned its claim to Eastern territories. This has also become mute with the European Union and the Schengen Visa allowing Germans to travel back to their ancestral homes in Silesia and Pomerania.
18th Oct '17 8:51:41 PM Caps-luna
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* The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_Purchase Gadsden Purchase]] would severely complicate any attempts to reacquire the former territories of Mexico through legal means. This bit of land forms the entirety of the US Mexico border of the states of Arizona and New Mexico. Unlike the rest it was purchased through legal means without the context of war or exploitation. If they wanted it back it would become RussiaCalledTheyWantAlaskaBack.
2nd Aug '17 9:40:24 PM Uyyy
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** The road to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII started with "Germany called, they'd like to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remilitarization_of_the_Rhineland remilitarize the Rhineland]]." Then it was "Germany called, they want to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss annex Austria]]." [[RuleOfThree And then it was]] "Germany called, they want [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement the Sudetenland back]]". [[RunningGag And then it was]] "Germany called, they want [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaip%C4%97da Memel]] back and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectorate_of_Bohemia_and_Moravia rest of Czechoslovakia]], thank you very much." [[OveryLongGag And finally, it was]] "Germany called, they want [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gda%C5%84sk Danzig]] and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Corridor Polish Corridor]] back", at which point the rest of the world told them to shut up and stop calling. [[ThisMeansWar They did not]].

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** The road to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII started with "Germany called, they'd like to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remilitarization_of_the_Rhineland remilitarize the Rhineland]]." Then it was "Germany called, they want to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss annex Austria]]." [[RuleOfThree And then it was]] "Germany called, they want [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement the Sudetenland back]]". [[RunningGag And then it was]] "Germany called, they want [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaip%C4%97da Memel]] back and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectorate_of_Bohemia_and_Moravia rest of Czechoslovakia]], thank you very much." [[OveryLongGag [[OverlyLongGag And finally, it was]] "Germany called, they want [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gda%C5%84sk Danzig]] and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Corridor Polish Corridor]] back", at which point the rest of the world told them to shut up and stop calling. [[ThisMeansWar They did not]].
2nd Aug '17 9:39:34 PM Uyyy
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** The road to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII started with "Germany called, they'd like to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remilitarization_of_the_Rhineland remilitarize the Rhineland]]." Then it was "Germany called, they want to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss annex Austria]]." [[RuleOfThree And then it was]] "Germany called, they want [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement the Sudetenland back]]". [[RunningGag And then it was]] "Germany called, they want [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaip%C4%97da Memel]] back and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectorate_of_Bohemia_and_Moravia rest of Czechoslovakia]], thank you very much." [[OveryLongGag And finally, it was]] "Germany called, they want [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gda%C5%84sk Danzig]] and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Corridor Polish Corridor]] back", at which point the rest of the world told them to shut up and stop calling. [[ThisMeansWar They did not]].
27th Jun '17 1:22:35 AM imaithebadass
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Thus, whenever in speculative fiction you see the United States somehow [[FallenStatesOfAmerica greatly]] [[DividedStatesOfAmerica weakened]], or in the past before the USA became a superpower, you can pretty much be assured the back story will involve Mexico [[InvadedStatesOfAmerica invading]] and conquering at least Texas and California. This is particularly ironic, because Mexico's economy is barely larger than Texas and not even as large as California's; in fact should Mexico hypothetically succeed this very moment in recovering just these two states, the Mexican economy would practically ''triple'' its size. But then again, [[EverythingIsBigInTexas it IS Texas]].

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Thus, whenever in speculative fiction you see the United States somehow [[FallenStatesOfAmerica greatly]] [[DividedStatesOfAmerica weakened]], or in the past before the USA became a superpower, you can pretty much be assured the back story will involve Mexico [[InvadedStatesOfAmerica invading]] and conquering at least Texas and California. This is particularly ironic, because Mexico's economy right now is barely larger smaller than both Texas and not even as large as California's; California.[[note]]in fact, California's economy is more than double the size of Mexico's[[/note]] ; in fact should Mexico hypothetically succeed this very moment in recovering just these two states, the Mexican economy would practically ''triple'' ''quadruple'' its size. But then again, [[EverythingIsBigInTexas it IS Texas]].
18th Jun '17 11:42:22 PM JulianLapostat
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In 1836 the Republic of Texas [[RememberTheAlamo separated]] from its previous [[Usefulnotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] rule. After spending the better part of their one sovereign decade attempting to join the United States, Texas was annexed by the USA in 1845. The United States offered Texas security, stable rule, and economic survivability, as many had families in the United States and feared that Mexico had plans to strike once more at Texas, hence this trope. The United States also would protect [[ValuesDissonance the settlers' right to own slaves]] -- these settlers, first invited to Texas by the Mexican government after agreeing to follow Mexican law, balked at Mexico's ban on slavery in 1829, which these slave-owning settlers very much disagreed with. The new Texas immigrants from the United States became known as Texians while the original Hispanic locals were called Tejanos. Texas was originally granted a one-year exemption from the 1829 ban, but Mexican president Anastasio Bustamante ordered that all slaves be freed in the law of April 6th, 1830 which also prevented further emigration to Texas from the United States and increased import taxes. This law didn't stop further immigration as Americans continued to settle Texas illegally. To circumvent the law, many Anglo colonists converted their slaves into indentured servants for life. The slavery aspect is something Texans unsurprisingly tend to gloss over when discussing their state's history. After Santa Anna overthrew president Anastasio Bustamante in 1832 the Mexican government started giving concessions to Texas that included a repeal on the emigration ban, more representation to Texas, and the right to trial by jury. However, Santa Anna had other plans as he overturned the 1824 constitution in 1835 and ordered all state legislatures and militias to be disbanded. The Tejano governor of Texas refused and when Mexican authorities attempted to seize a cannon used for defense against Comanche raiders it led to the Battle of Gonzales which sparked the Texas Revolution.

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In 1836 the Republic of Texas [[RememberTheAlamo separated]] from its previous [[Usefulnotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] rule. After spending the better part of their one sovereign decade attempting to join the United States, Texas was annexed by the USA in 1845. The United States offered Texas security, stable rule, and economic survivability, as many had families in the United States and feared that Mexico had plans to strike once more at Texas, hence this trope. The United States also would protect [[ValuesDissonance the settlers' right to own slaves]] -- these settlers, first invited to Texas by the Mexican government after agreeing to follow Mexican law, balked at Mexico's ban on slavery in 1829, which these slave-owning settlers very much disagreed with. The new Texas immigrants from the United States became known as Texians Texicans while the original Hispanic locals were called Tejanos. Texas was originally granted a one-year exemption from the 1829 ban, but Mexican president Anastasio Bustamante ordered that all slaves be freed in the law of April 6th, 1830 which also prevented further emigration to Texas from the United States and increased import taxes. This law didn't stop further immigration as Americans continued to settle Texas illegally. To circumvent the law, many Anglo colonists converted their slaves into indentured servants for life. The slavery aspect is something Texans unsurprisingly tend to gloss over when discussing their state's history. After Santa Anna overthrew president Anastasio Bustamante in 1832 the Mexican government started giving concessions to Texas that included a repeal on the emigration ban, more representation to Texas, and the right to trial by jury. However, Santa Anna had other plans as he overturned the 1824 constitution in 1835 and ordered all state legislatures and militias to be disbanded. The Tejano governor of Texas refused and when Mexican authorities attempted to seize a cannon used for defense against Comanche raiders it led to the Battle of Gonzales which sparked the Texas Revolution.



See also DividedStatesOfAmerica. Sister trope of RussiaCalledTheyWantAlaskaBack

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See also DividedStatesOfAmerica. Sister trope of RussiaCalledTheyWantAlaskaBackRussiaCalledTheyWantAlaskaBack. See also [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanchism revanchism]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irredentism irredentism]] which were actual, primarily European, examples of this phenomena.


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** In the run-up to UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, it was very much [[UsefulNotes/FrancoPrussianWar France won't stop calling and they want Alsace-Lorraine back very much]].
15th May '17 7:19:21 PM nombretomado
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* It is rumoured that the undeclared reason why the British Army was sent into [[TheTroubles Northern Ireland]] in 1969 was to forestall any attempt by the Irish Republic to move its military forces into the predominantly Catholic border counties, in order to preserve peace and prevent ethnic cleansing of Roman Catholics by Protestants. (And incidentally to reinforce the Republic's claim to sovereignty over the whole island of Ireland - you could read this as "Dublin called - we want the Six Counties Back".) It is known the Republic mobilised its armed forces, including reservists, and sent them North in the summer of 1969 to answer the emergency. Informed opinion is that South Armagh, County Tyrone and County Derry would have been occupied for peacekeeping and humanitarian reasons (but the Prot areas would have been left for the British to deal with as their problem).

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* It is rumoured that the undeclared reason why the British Army was sent into [[TheTroubles [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles Northern Ireland]] in 1969 was to forestall any attempt by the Irish Republic to move its military forces into the predominantly Catholic border counties, in order to preserve peace and prevent ethnic cleansing of Roman Catholics by Protestants. (And incidentally to reinforce the Republic's claim to sovereignty over the whole island of Ireland - you could read this as "Dublin called - we want the Six Counties Back".) It is known the Republic mobilised its armed forces, including reservists, and sent them North in the summer of 1969 to answer the emergency. Informed opinion is that South Armagh, County Tyrone and County Derry would have been occupied for peacekeeping and humanitarian reasons (but the Prot areas would have been left for the British to deal with as their problem).
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