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19th Jun '17 8:33:33 AM Sabrewing
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* ''VideoGame/Cubivore'' got a Trophy in Melee in the form of Alpha, and, like Fire Emblem 6, the game was not released yet. Like with Animal Crossing, it was also listed as "Future Release" in Western releases, though it would only see a North American release (And it only came there thanks to Atlus wanting to localize it after Nintendo cancelled the North American release).

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* ''VideoGame/Cubivore'' ''VideoGame/{{Cubivore}}'' got a Trophy in Melee in the form of Alpha, and, like Fire Emblem 6, the game was not released yet. Like with Animal Crossing, it was also listed as "Future Release" in Western releases, though it would only see a North American release (And it only came there thanks to Atlus wanting to localize it after Nintendo cancelled the North American release).
18th Jun '17 12:12:02 PM nombretomado
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* Celica A. Mercury and Naoto Kurogane from BlazBlue both debuted in a series of light novels that never got an overeases release, BlazbluePhaseShift for Celica and ''Bloodedge Experience'' for Naoto. As a result, most western fans were initially exposed to them through their playable appearances in the main series and scratching their heads at just who the hell they were. Its especially jarring because both seem to play very important roles in the plot and some have prior relationships with the already established cast, so it comes off as RememberTheNewGuy if you didn't do your research beforehand.

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* Celica A. Mercury and Naoto Kurogane from BlazBlue ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' both debuted in a series of light novels that never got an overeases release, BlazbluePhaseShift ''LightNovel/BlazbluePhaseShift'' for Celica and ''Bloodedge Experience'' for Naoto. As a result, most western fans were initially exposed to them through their playable appearances in the main series and scratching their heads at just who the hell they were. Its especially jarring because both seem to play very important roles in the plot and some have prior relationships with the already established cast, so it comes off as RememberTheNewGuy if you didn't do your research beforehand.
3rd Jun '17 11:21:30 PM OnoderaTearer
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* Characters and machines from the ''{{Franchise/Gundam}}'' anime that were never released outside of Japan have shown up in spin-off video games, with ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ Gundam ZZ]]'' appearing in ''[[VideoGame/GundamVsSeries Gundam vs. Zeta Gundam]]'' while ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriorsGundam'' did the same for ''[[Anime/MobileSuitVGundam V Gundam]]'', ''[[Anime/AfterWarGundamX Gundam X]]'', and ''Anime/TurnAGundam''; with the upcoming release of ''DW:G Reborn'', we can add ''[[Manga/MobileSuitCrossboneGundam Crossbone Gundam]]'' to the list.

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* Characters and machines from the ''{{Franchise/Gundam}}'' anime that were never released outside of Japan have shown up in spin-off video games, with ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ Gundam ZZ]]'' appearing in ''[[VideoGame/GundamVsSeries Gundam vs. Zeta Gundam]]'' while ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriorsGundam'' did the same for ''[[Anime/MobileSuitVGundam V Gundam]]'', ''[[Anime/AfterWarGundamX Gundam X]]'', and ''Anime/TurnAGundam''; with the upcoming release of ''DW:G Reborn'', we can add ''[[Manga/MobileSuitCrossboneGundam Crossbone Gundam]]'' to the list.



* Since ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'' debuted before the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' on Creator/{{Toonami}}, American viewers met the CharClone Zechs Marquise before the original villain. This got so bad that in the early 2000s, the single best way to identify a "new fan" was whether or not they mis-identified a Char cosplayer as Zechs. This happened a ''lot''.
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'s'' fourth movie introduced a character named Kokuto who would later go on to appear in the videogame ''Bleach: Soul Ignition''. Nothing wrong here; the movie wouldn't be dubbed for a good few years and the game would [[NoExportForYou probably never see the light of day outside of Japan]] (as is, sadly, the case with most ''Bleach'' videogames). ''Then, however'' comes the news that N.I.S America are releasing the game in the West under the slightly modified title; ''Bleach Soul Resurrección''. And apart from the name and the opening theme song which had to be changed due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers licensing issues]], everything was left intact, ''including Kokuto'', even going as far as to giving him an [[Creator/TravisWillingham English voice]]. Given that his backstory was not given in the game and at this point, there wasn't even a FanSub of the movie available yet, a standard reaction to unlocking him is "Who the [[StealthPun Hell]] is Kokuto?"

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* Since ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'' debuted before the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' on Creator/{{Toonami}}, American viewers met the CharClone Zechs Marquise before the original villain. This got so bad that in the early 2000s, the single best way to identify a "new fan" was whether or not they mis-identified a Char cosplayer as Zechs. This happened a ''lot''.
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'s''
''Manga/{{Bleach}}''[='=]s fourth movie introduced a character named Kokuto who would later go on to appear in the videogame ''Bleach: Soul Ignition''. Nothing wrong here; the movie wouldn't be dubbed for a good few years and the game would [[NoExportForYou probably never see the light of day outside of Japan]] (as is, sadly, the case with most ''Bleach'' videogames). ''Then, however'' comes the news that N.I.S America are releasing the game in the West under the slightly modified title; ''Bleach Soul Resurrección''. And apart from the name and the opening theme song which had to be changed due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers licensing issues]], everything was left intact, ''including Kokuto'', even going as far as to giving him an [[Creator/TravisWillingham English voice]]. Given that his backstory was not given in the game and at this point, there wasn't even a FanSub of the movie available yet, a standard reaction to unlocking him is "Who the [[StealthPun Hell]] is Kokuto?"



* A number of Mobile Suits from various Franchise/{{Gundam}} series made their American debut in video games long before their series reached the US (''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ ZZ]]'', ''[[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam V]]'', ''[[Anime/AfterWarGundamX X]]'' and ''[[Anime/TurnAGundam Turn-A]]'' still haven't.)
* ''[[Anime/TurnAGundam Turn-A]]'' was released in the US on DVD in 2015, with a Blu-Ray release on the way. ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ ZZ]]'', ''[[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory]]'' and ''[[Anime/AfterWarGundamX X]]'' ''finally'' got US releases in 2016, although ''X'' is only on DVD due to there being no remaster in Japan. As of November 2016 this leaves ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDCE73Stargazer Stargazer]]'', ''[[Anime/ModelSuitGunplaBuildersBeginningG Gunpla Builders Beginning G]]'', and ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE AGE]]'' as the only main Gundam series to not get a US release.

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* A number of Mobile Suits from various Franchise/{{Gundam}} few ''{{Franchise/Gundam}}'' series made their American debut debuted internationally in spin-off video games long before their series reached the US (''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ ZZ]]'', getting an official overseas release, with ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ Gundam ZZ]]'' appearing in ''[[VideoGame/GundamVsSeries Gundam vs. Zeta Gundam]]'', ''[[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam V]]'', Victory Gundam]]'', ''[[Anime/AfterWarGundamX Gundam X]]'' and ''[[Anime/TurnAGundam Turn-A]]'' still haven't.)
* ''[[Anime/TurnAGundam Turn-A]]'' was released
''Anime/TurnAGundam'' debuting in the US on DVD in 2015, with a Blu-Ray release on the way. ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ ZZ]]'', ''[[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory]]'' ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriorsGundam'', and ''[[Anime/AfterWarGundamX X]]'' ''finally'' got US releases ''[[Manga/MobileSuitCrossboneGundam Crossbone Gundam]]'' debuting in 2016, although ''X'' is only on DVD due to there being no remaster in Japan. ''Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn''. As of November 2016 May 2017 this leaves ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDCE73Stargazer Stargazer]]'', ''[[Anime/ModelSuitGunplaBuildersBeginningG Gunpla Builders Beginning G]]'', Stargazer]]'' and ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE AGE]]'' as the only main Gundam ''Gundam'' series to not get fall under this trope, neither these series being officially released in the West yet nor the games in which they did appear being localized.
** Since ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'' debuted before the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' on Creator/{{Toonami}}, American viewers met the CharClone Zechs Marquise before the original villain Char Aznable. This got so bad that in the early 2000s, the single best way to identify
a US release."new Western fan" was whether or not they mis-identified a Char cosplayer as Zechs. This happened a ''lot''.
25th May '17 12:41:17 PM BZL8
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* Original characters Emma, Shade, Yuzu, and Lando, from the Japan-only ''TableTopGame/FireEmblemCipher'' make their international debut outside their card game as DLC characters for ''Echoes''.
29th Apr '17 4:21:47 PM nombretomado
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* Though Creator/{{Konami}} has refused to release ''TokimekiMemorial'' in Western countries, a few references to the series in other Konami games released internationally got through, such as Yae's "Kirameki Uniform" (aka the Summer version of the iconic SailorFuku of the first ''Tokimemo'' game) in ''[[VideoGame/GanbareGoemon Goemon's Great Adventure]]'', or the Kaori Yae (the EnsembleDarkhorse of ''Tokimeki Memorial 2'') Dog Tag in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2''. Shiori Fujisaki makes her first international appearance as a boss in ''VideoGame/{{Otomedius}} Excellent''.

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* Though Creator/{{Konami}} has refused to release ''TokimekiMemorial'' ''VisualNovel/TokimekiMemorial'' in Western countries, a few references to the series in other Konami games released internationally got through, such as Yae's "Kirameki Uniform" (aka the Summer version of the iconic SailorFuku of the first ''Tokimemo'' game) in ''[[VideoGame/GanbareGoemon Goemon's Great Adventure]]'', or the Kaori Yae (the EnsembleDarkhorse of ''Tokimeki Memorial 2'') Dog Tag in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2''. Shiori Fujisaki makes her first international appearance as a boss in ''VideoGame/{{Otomedius}} Excellent''.
27th Apr '17 6:29:37 PM jormis29
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%%* Franchise/{{Godzilla}}. The first time was in 1955 where Toho sent the [[Film/{{Gojira}} original film]] in the US for Japanese-Americans only. Until 1956, it debuted for US distribution as ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters''. Minus ''Film/GodzillaRaidsAgain'' where it was meant to be a non-Godzilla movie (with ridiculous reasons), the US audience would see the Big G again in color with ''Film/KingKongVsGodzilla'' and onwards until ''Film/GodzillaVsBiollante'' when controversy started in regards to ''Film/GodzillaVsKingGhidorah''. Godzilla would end up with the status again in 1998 where American audience is introduced to ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}'' (with the creature being renamed to Zilla due to [[CreatorBacklash Toho's disapproval]]), and then ''Film/{{Godzilla 2000}}'' and ''finally'' ''Film/{{Godzilla 2014}}''.

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%%* Franchise/{{Godzilla}}. The first time was in 1955 where Toho sent the [[Film/{{Gojira}} original film]] in the US for Japanese-Americans only. Until 1956, it debuted for US distribution as ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters''.''[[Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters1956 Godzilla: King of the Monsters!]]''. Minus ''Film/GodzillaRaidsAgain'' where it was meant to be a non-Godzilla movie (with ridiculous reasons), the US audience would see the Big G again in color with ''Film/KingKongVsGodzilla'' and onwards until ''Film/GodzillaVsBiollante'' when controversy started in regards to ''Film/GodzillaVsKingGhidorah''. Godzilla would end up with the status again in 1998 where American audience is introduced to ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}'' (with the creature being renamed to Zilla due to [[CreatorBacklash Toho's disapproval]]), and then ''Film/{{Godzilla 2000}}'' and ''finally'' ''Film/{{Godzilla 2014}}''.
25th Apr '17 9:42:58 AM MayIncon
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* With many past characters appearing in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' as DLC, this trope was inevitable for the international releases. For every game not released overseas at the time[[note]][[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Gaiden, Mystery of the Emblem]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Genealogy of the Holy War, Thracia 776]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe The Binding Blade]][[/note]], ten more characters made their international debuts this way.[[note]]Four from ''Mystery of the Emblem'', counting Emperor Hardin, and three from the "Others" set, for a total of 53. This count includes the characters from [=FE6=] appearing in the [=FE7=] epilogue, as the epilogue was removed from European and Australian copies of [=FE7=].[[/note]]

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* With many past characters appearing in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' as DLC, this trope was inevitable for the international releases. For every game not released overseas at the time[[note]][[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Gaiden, time[[note]][[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Gaiden]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral [[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War, War]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemThracia776 Thracia 776]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade The Binding Blade]][[/note]], ten more characters made their international debuts this way.[[note]]Four from ''Mystery of the Emblem'', counting Emperor Hardin, and three from the "Others" set, for a total of 53. This count includes the characters from [=FE6=] appearing in the [=FE7=] epilogue, as the epilogue was removed from European and Australian copies of [=FE7=].[[/note]]
25th Apr '17 9:40:19 AM MayIncon
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* The TropeNamer is the star of the first ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' game (''VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia''), Marth. Marth made his (and his series') Western gaming debut[[note]]His first debut ''ever'' was a ''Fire Emblem'' OVA made in 1997 and exported to the West the same year[[/note]] in ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'': over a decade after the first ''Fire Emblem'' game was released in Japan. His presence and popularity motivated Nintendo to release all future games in the franchise internationally. However, it wasn't until 2009, with [[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight the remake of his game]], that Marth himself would finally appear outside the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series in the West.
* In comparison, Roy actually '''did''' debut in ''Melee'' -- [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe his own game]] hadn't come out yet in Japan when the game was released, and his inclusion was meant to promote the upcoming game. Oddly enough, his game never even made it to the US, which instead got [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe the next game in the series]]: a prequel starring his father, Eliwood, in which Roy only makes a cameo in the epilogue as a child. For Europe and Australia however, this is a straight example, as ''Melee'' was delayed in those regions and came out after Roy's game had already been released in Japan. As with Marth, Roy [[GrandfatherClause continues to speak Japanese regardless of region]], following his [[TheBusCameBack return]] in ''3DS/Wii U'' as a [[DownloadableContent downloadable fighter]].

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* The TropeNamer is the star of the first ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' game (''VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia''), (''VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight''), Marth. Marth made his (and his series') Western gaming debut[[note]]His first debut ''ever'' was a ''Fire Emblem'' OVA made in 1997 and exported to the West the same year[[/note]] in ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'': over a decade after the first ''Fire Emblem'' game was released in Japan. His presence and popularity motivated Nintendo to release all future games in the franchise internationally. However, it wasn't until 2009, with [[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight the DS remake of his game]], game, that Marth himself would finally appear outside the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series in the West.
* In comparison, Roy actually '''did''' debut in ''Melee'' -- [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade his own game]] hadn't come out yet in Japan when the game was released, and his inclusion was meant to promote the upcoming game. Oddly enough, his game never even made it to the US, which instead got [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade the next game in the series]]: a prequel starring his father, Eliwood, in which Roy only makes a cameo in the epilogue as a child. For Europe and Australia however, this is a straight example, as ''Melee'' was delayed in those regions and came out after Roy's game had already been released in Japan. As with Marth, Roy [[GrandfatherClause continues to speak Japanese regardless of region]], following his [[TheBusCameBack return]] in ''3DS/Wii U'' as a [[DownloadableContent downloadable fighter]].
23rd Apr '17 11:31:29 AM TurtleTropes
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* Though previously released for the Nintendo 64 in Japan, Melee's trophy list included characters from ''VideoGame/DoshinTheGiant'' (Doshin and Jashin), ''VideoGame/{{Cubivore}}'' (Alpha), and ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing'' (Tom Nook, Mr. Resetti and K.K. Slider/Totakeke), all of which had the words "Future release" in their descriptions in the Western releases of Melee. While ''Animal Crossing'' gained worldwide availability, ''Cubivore'' was only released in the US, while ''Doshin the Giant'' only came out in the PAL regions. NoExportForYou, indeed.

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* Though previously released for the Nintendo 64 in Japan, Melee's trophy list included characters from ''VideoGame/DoshinTheGiant'' (Doshin and Jashin), ''VideoGame/{{Cubivore}}'' (Alpha), Jashin) and ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing'' (Tom Nook, Mr. Resetti and K.K. Slider/Totakeke), all the latter of which had the words "Future release" Release" in their descriptions in the Western releases release of Melee. While ''Animal Crossing'' gained worldwide availability, ''Cubivore'' was only released in the US, while ''Doshin the Giant'' only came out in the PAL regions. NoExportForYou, indeed.indeed.
* ''VideoGame/Cubivore'' got a Trophy in Melee in the form of Alpha, and, like Fire Emblem 6, the game was not released yet. Like with Animal Crossing, it was also listed as "Future Release" in Western releases, though it would only see a North American release (And it only came there thanks to Atlus wanting to localize it after Nintendo cancelled the North American release).
14th Apr '17 11:58:50 AM BZL8
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* Faye from ''[[Videogame/FireEmblemGaiden Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia]]'' makes her debut one week prior to Echoes' Japanese release and a month prior to its international release.

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* Faye from ''[[Videogame/FireEmblemGaiden Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia]]'' makes her debut in ''Heroes'' one week prior to Echoes' Japanese release and a month prior to its international release.
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