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15th Sep '17 3:18:38 AM Omeganian
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* Subverted in the ''Literature/SwordOfTruth''; part of the enchantments on the Rahl bloodline make that an unfortunate necessity. Any Rahl who isn't an absurdly powerful wizard is actually a "[[AntiMagic Pristinely Ungifted]]" whose propagation threatens the existence of the world. That's not to say that all Rahls kill their children so as to save the rest of their world. Richard runs into most of the survivors over his adventures, with various levels of emotional scarring and insanity, possibly deconstructing this trope by showing what those behind the iron masks would actually be like growing up in their father's country.
** [[spoiler: Drefan]] Rahl thinks he's this, but turns out to be delusional and possibly ''possessed''.

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* Subverted in the ''Literature/SwordOfTruth''; part of the enchantments on the Rahl bloodline make that an unfortunate necessity. Any Rahl who isn't an absurdly powerful wizard is actually has a chance of being a "[[AntiMagic Pristinely Ungifted]]" whose propagation threatens the existence of the world. That's not to say that all Rahls kill their children so as to save the rest of their world. Richard runs into most of the survivors over his adventures, with various levels of emotional scarring and insanity, possibly deconstructing this trope by showing what those behind the iron masks would actually be like growing up in their father's country.
** [[spoiler: Drefan]] Rahl thinks he's Drefan and Oba]] Rahls think they're this, but turns both turn out to be delusional and possibly ''possessed''.
26th Jul '17 2:15:38 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Sometimes this is justified on the grounds that shedding RoyalBlood has side-effects, or that the land [[FisherKing will suffer]] if the rightful king dies.

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Sometimes this is justified on the grounds that shedding RoyalBlood has side-effects, or that the land [[FisherKing will suffer]] if the rightful king dies.
dies. Non-magically speaking, it could be that EvenEvilHasLovedOnes and the Evil Prince is not evil enough to turn into a new [[CainAndAbel Cain]] or the rightful ruler voluntarily went into exile as part of a deal and IGaveMyWord because EvenEvilHasStandards.
5th Jun '17 7:36:53 PM Dravencour
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Late in the ''Golden Age Arc'', [[spoiler:The King of Midland imprisons Griffith in a dungeon under torture as punishment for deflowering his daughter, even though the mere fact that Griffith is alive represents a threat of rebellion from the Band of the Hawk. At least the King tries to prevent that from happening by preemptively outlawing Griffith's followers and ordering Midland's army to wipe them out. The king keeps the place of Griffith's imprisonment and the nature of his crime a secret to avoid losing face and to make sure that Griffith doesn't escape, telling the guards he'll kill them and their families if they breathe a word about it. Of course, the Hawks do manage to break Griffith out of prison a year later]], and for bonus points they find that his captors had literally put him in a locked iron mask that concealed [[TakeOurWordForIt the horrible things the torturer had done to his face]].

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Late in the ''Golden Age Arc'', [[spoiler:The King of Midland imprisons Griffith in a dungeon under torture as punishment for deflowering his daughter, even though the mere fact that Griffith is alive represents a threat of rebellion from the Band of the Hawk. At least the King tries to prevent that from happening by preemptively outlawing Griffith's followers and ordering Midland's army to wipe them out. The king keeps the place of Griffith's imprisonment and the nature of his crime a secret to avoid losing face and to make sure that Griffith doesn't escape, telling the guards he'll kill them and their families if they breathe a word about it. Of course, The one who gives word to the Hawks do manage to break Griffith out of prison about what happened is none other than Charlotte herself, and this provides the impetus for a year later]], rescue mission once Guts and Casca reunite]], and for bonus points they find that his captors had literally put him in a locked iron mask that concealed [[TakeOurWordForIt the horrible things the torturer had done to his face]]. face]].
5th Jun '17 7:30:04 PM Dravencour
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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian story "Literature/AWitchShallBeBorn", Salome, the EvilTwin, does this to Tamaris when becoming the FakeKing. She wants to BreakTheHaughty on Tamaris.

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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian story "Literature/AWitchShallBeBorn", Salome, the EvilTwin, EvilTwin of Queen Taramis, does this to Tamaris her sister when becoming the FakeKing. She wants to BreakTheHaughty on Tamaris.[[BreakTheHaughty break her and make her suffer]].
5th Jun '17 7:28:22 PM Dravencour
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4th May '17 6:46:58 PM SteveMB
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* The legend of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_in_the_Iron_Mask Man in the Iron Mask]] was based on actual records found from Bastille. There are a lot of theories regarding the Man's identity, but very little information remains of the real events. What has been discovered is that the Iron Mask itself was an exaggeration - the mask was just silk, and the Man probably wore it voluntarily. A fair amount of evidence points to his having been an insignificant figure whose knowledge was dangerous, not he himself. You will not find that in any of the legends.

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* The legend of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_in_the_Iron_Mask Man in the Iron Mask]] was based on actual records found from Bastille. There are a lot of theories regarding the Man's identity, but very little information remains of the real events. What has been discovered is that the Iron Mask itself was an exaggeration - the mask was just silk, and the Man probably wore it voluntarily. A fair amount of evidence points to his having been an insignificant figure [[HeKnowsTooMuch whose knowledge was dangerous, dangerous]], not he himself. You will not find that in any of the legends.
18th Mar '17 9:08:16 AM Morgenthaler
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* In another Franchise/{{LEGO}} line, [[KnightsKingdom2 Knights' Kingdom]], Lord Vladek [[TheUsurper usurped]] the throne and, rather than killing King Mathias due to the threat he posed to Vladek's rule, simply had him locked up in the Castle of Morcia's dungeons instead. Of course, this allowed LaResistance to rescue Mathias, learn of Vladek's true intentions, and ultimately restore the rightful king to the throne.

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* In another Franchise/{{LEGO}} line, [[KnightsKingdom2 [[Toys/KnightsKingdom2 Knights' Kingdom]], Lord Vladek [[TheUsurper usurped]] the throne and, rather than killing King Mathias due to the threat he posed to Vladek's rule, simply had him locked up in the Castle of Morcia's dungeons instead. Of course, this allowed LaResistance to rescue Mathias, learn of Vladek's true intentions, and ultimately restore the rightful king to the throne.
27th Dec '16 4:49:56 PM JackG
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* ''Film/TheDogsOfWar''. A politician who opposed TheCaligula in the independence elections is kept in his prison, working as the doctor there. This provides a handy alternate not only to the mad dictator, but also the PuppetKing that the mercenaries were supposed to put in power. This doesn't happen in the Creator/FrederickForsyth novel, where the man who ends up in charge is a rebel leader from a completely different country, who had to flee after losing a civil war.
2nd Aug '16 2:05:58 AM PaulA
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* King Jakoven in Creator/PatriciaBriggs' ''Hurog'' series built the Asylum specifically to lock up his brother Kellen, having been warned in a prophecy that it would be a very bad idea to kill his brother. While it's common knowledge that he's in there, most of the common people seem to have bought the idea that he's genuinely nuts, rather than unjustly imprisoned.

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* King Jakoven in Creator/PatriciaBriggs' ''Hurog'' ''Literature/{{Hurog}}'' series built the Asylum specifically to lock up his brother Kellen, having been warned in a prophecy that it would be a very bad idea to kill his brother. While it's common knowledge that he's in there, most of the common people seem to have bought the idea that he's genuinely nuts, rather than unjustly imprisoned.
27th Jul '16 1:35:58 AM PaulA
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* In Creator/UrsulaKLeGuin's ''A Wizard of Earthsea'', Ged meets two people alone on a desert island, barely capable of understanding human speech. In ''The Tombs of Atuan'' Tenar explains that they were the last children of a royal line, and the God-Emperor was afraid to kill them, since they had RoyalBlood, so he abandoned them there, very young. Subverted in that Ged did not rescue them; in fact, they were terrified at the prospect of leaving their island.
** Notably, they were put to sea when they were children and were now at least middle aged. Royal blood clearly included excellent survival instincts, but they were a bit past their "crown by" date. The God-Emperor may have been cautious, but his grip on power was quiet definitely cemented when he had them exiled.

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* In Creator/UrsulaKLeGuin's ''A Wizard of Earthsea'', ''Literature/AWizardOfEarthsea'', Ged meets two people alone on a desert island, barely capable of understanding human speech. In ''The Tombs of Atuan'' ''Literature/TheTombsOfAtuan'' Tenar explains that they were the last children of a royal line, and the God-Emperor was afraid to kill them, since they had RoyalBlood, so he abandoned them there, very young. Subverted in that Ged did not rescue them; in fact, they were terrified at the prospect of leaving their island.
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island, which they were put to sea when had lived on alone since they were children and were now at least middle aged. Royal blood clearly included excellent survival instincts, but they were a bit past their "crown by" date. The God-Emperor may have been cautious, but his grip on power was quiet definitely cemented when he had them exiled.
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