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24th Aug '16 9:39:24 PM nombretomado
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* Occurs in ''TheBlackCompany'' as a result of IKnowYourTrueName. A wizard can be instantly and permanently severed from his powers by invoking his True Name (this even happens on page at one point). What this means is that the only sorcerers able to rise to significant magical potential without being DePowered by their enemies are those willing to destroy every record of their True Name--including their childhood family and friends.

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* Occurs in ''TheBlackCompany'' ''Literature/TheBlackCompany'' as a result of IKnowYourTrueName. A wizard can be instantly and permanently severed from his powers by invoking his True Name (this even happens on page at one point). What this means is that the only sorcerers able to rise to significant magical potential without being DePowered by their enemies are those willing to destroy every record of their True Name--including their childhood family and friends.
1st Jul '16 8:28:57 PM nombretomado
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* In TheBartimaeusTrilogy, many magicians are either actively malicious or complicit in an oppressive magocracy, so ordinary people tend to believe magic is evil. Even the way magicians get power leans toward evil, since they have to summon and enslave spirits and pretty much never bother to be benevolent masters. Aversions are so rare, most of the enslaved spirits think they're a pipe dream.

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* In TheBartimaeusTrilogy, Literature/TheBartimaeusTrilogy, many magicians are either actively malicious or complicit in an oppressive magocracy, so ordinary people tend to believe magic is evil. Even the way magicians get power leans toward evil, since they have to summon and enslave spirits and pretty much never bother to be benevolent masters. Aversions are so rare, most of the enslaved spirits think they're a pipe dream.
16th Jun '16 10:34:28 PM M84
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* The leader of the [[AntiMagicalFaction Empirikul]] is convinced that magic is evil and that he's doing the multiverse a favor by purging it. His FreudianExcuse is that [[spoiler:he came from a world that worshiped Shuma-Gorath. The source of his homeworld's magic was an EldritchAbomination.]]

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* ''Comicbook/DoctorStrange'': The leader of the [[AntiMagicalFaction Empirikul]] is convinced that magic is evil and that he's doing the multiverse a favor by purging it. His FreudianExcuse is that [[spoiler:he came from a world that worshiped Shuma-Gorath. The source of his homeworld's magic was an EldritchAbomination.]]
12th Jun '16 9:15:54 PM M84
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* The leader of the [[AntiMagicalFaction Empirikul]] is convinced that magic is evil and that he's doing the multiverse a favor by purging it. His FreudianExcuse is that [[spoiler:he came from a world that worshiped Shuma-Gorath. The source of his homeworld's magic was an EldritchAbomination.]]
5th May '16 5:46:18 PM DanaO
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** The converse also holds in that the nature of the Oz realm (you can't kill or really hurt natives) makes it almost impossible to be a credible villain ''without'' magic.
6th Apr '16 1:11:14 PM longWriter
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* ''Series/TheMrPotatoHeadShow'': Baloney gets a magic kit in one episode. He thinks it's plain sleight-of-hand magic that he's getting into, but his magic wand turns another character into a toaster, and he accidentally summons a monster out of his top hat while trying to perform a magic act.
4th Apr '16 7:12:20 PM Fireblood
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** This being the [=WoT=]verse, most commoners (and much of the nobility) are incredibly superstitious and stubborn and believe that all Channeling is evil, though much of that stems from the male Aes Sedai going insane and the end of the War of Power and devastating the world.

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** This being the [=WoT=]verse, most commoners (and much of the nobility) are incredibly superstitious and stubborn and believe that all Channeling is evil, though much of that stems from the male Aes Sedai going insane and the end of the War of Power and devastating the world. The Children of the Light is an organization which firmly believes this that seek to hunt down and kill all magic users.



* In ''Literature/TheSwordOfTruth'' the Blood of the Fold believes all magic is from [[TheDevil the Keeper of the Underworld]], and thus hunt down magic users. However, the leader of the group has a sister who is a sorceress [[{{Hypocrite}} whom he uses to further his aims]].
* Clan Righteous in ''Literature/TheLostYearsOfMerlin'' despises all magic, attempting to kill its users and magical creatures without regard for how they use it.



** Mind, supernatural ''miracles'' have always been a part of Judaism and Christianity, however; the difference is the entity to whom one is appealing for supernatural aid: miracles (prophecies, water-into-wine, fire from Heaven, etc.) come from God, magic (i.e. divination, sorcery, necromancy, etc.) from Satan. Generally, Judaism is a lot more relaxed when it comes to magic, and occult traditions using angels and Yahweh have been the norm for centuries.
* In [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek Mythology]], magic is often seen as primal and dangerous. The main magic users, sorceresses like Circe, are almost always villains.

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** Mind, Mind you, supernatural ''miracles'' have always been a part of Judaism and Christianity, however; Christianity; the difference is the entity to whom one is appealing for supernatural aid: miracles (prophecies, water-into-wine, fire from Heaven, etc.) come from God, magic (i.e. divination, sorcery, necromancy, etc.) from Satan. Generally, Judaism is a lot more relaxed when it comes to magic, and occult traditions using angels and Yahweh have been the norm for centuries.
* In [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek Mythology]], magic is often seen as primal and dangerous. The main magic users, sorceresses like Circe, are almost always villains. The Greeks had laws against magic that prefigured many of those later revived under Christian kings in the early modern period {{witch hunt}}s.
4th Apr '16 7:02:25 PM Fireblood
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Some settings simply achieve this effect by featuring predominantly [[WickedWitch wicked]] [[EvilSorceror magic-users]] or magical creatures, contrasting it with liberating and safe technology and ordinary human pursuits. Some settings tie the use of their phlebotinum intrinsically to moral corruption or even the gradual destruction of the world; magic is, at best, a decadent and arrogant practice by frail humans who would wield [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow power too great for them]]. Some even go so far as to make nearly all magic have hideous moral or physical costs that gradually destroy the sorcerer's humanity and make it impossible for magic to be a common fixture of the setting. After all, if there is just the DevilButNoGod; and if magic is theurgic (coming from a magical being), there's no "good" source.

Some settings mitigate this slightly by portraying ''divine'' or religious magic with a more positive brush. In this case the message seems to be that God, or perhaps faith or the community, is acceptable, whereas the sorcerer's lonely power is inherently dehumanizing. A more cynical take on this view might argue that "miracles" are portrayed as good, but "magic" is portrayed as bad, because the church proclaiming the miracles dislikes competition.

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Some settings simply achieve this effect by featuring predominantly [[WickedWitch wicked]] [[EvilSorceror magic-users]] or magical creatures, contrasting it with liberating and safe technology and ordinary human pursuits. Some settings tie the use of their phlebotinum intrinsically to moral corruption or even the gradual destruction of the world; magic is, at best, a decadent and arrogant practice by frail humans who would wield [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow power too great for them]]. Some even go so far as to make nearly all magic have hideous moral or physical costs that gradually destroy the sorcerer's humanity and make it impossible for magic to be a common fixture of the setting. After all, if there is just the DevilButNoGod; DevilButNoGod, and if magic is theurgic (coming from a magical being), there's no "good" source.

Some settings mitigate this slightly by portraying ''divine'' or religious magic with a more positive brush. In this case the message seems to be that God, or perhaps faith or the community, is acceptable, whereas the sorcerer's lonely power is inherently dehumanizing. A more cynical take on this view might argue that "miracles" are portrayed as good, but "magic" is portrayed as bad, because the church proclaiming the miracles dislikes competition.
competition. Evil magic may be portrayed as coming from a DealWithTheDevil, just to drive home the point.
28th Feb '16 1:30:55 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* In the ''Literature/LandOfOz'' books, magic is illegal in the Kingdom of Oz unless you have permission from its ruler, Ozma. (typically, only Glinda, the Wizard, and Ozma herself use it). Of course, you can hardly debate such a rule, because nearly every villain encountered in the books is a sadist who uses black magic of some sort; spells used to inflict BalefulPolymorph and [[AndIMustScream even worse curses]] seem rather common.
20th Feb '16 2:33:17 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* While many characters and cultures in [[Creator/JRRTolkien Tolkien's]] legendarium exercise powers we would call "magical," the terms "magic" and "sorcery" usually imply artificially-acquired powers that seek to forcibly bend the world to the user's will and draw on Morgoth's lingering evil. Benevolent supernatural powers appear to come from understanding and love of the world around you, rather than simple desire to control, and the Elves are frequently confused or annoyed by mortals calling their arts "magic".

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* While many characters and cultures in [[Creator/JRRTolkien Tolkien's]] legendarium exercise powers we would call "magical," the terms "magic" and "sorcery" usually imply artificially-acquired powers that seek to forcibly bend the world to the user's will and draw on Morgoth's lingering evil. Benevolent supernatural powers appear to come from divine force or from understanding and love of the world around you, world, rather than simple desire to control, and the Elves are frequently confused or annoyed by mortals calling their arts "magic".
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