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6th Apr '16 1:11:14 PM longWriter
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* ''Series/TheMrPotatoHeadShow'': Baloney gets a magic kit in one episode. He thinks it's plain sleight-of-hand magic that he's getting into, but his magic wand turns another character into a toaster, and he accidentally summons a monster out of his top hat while trying to perform a magic act.
4th Apr '16 7:12:20 PM Fireblood
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** This being the [=WoT=]verse, most commoners (and much of the nobility) are incredibly superstitious and stubborn and believe that all Channeling is evil, though much of that stems from the male Aes Sedai going insane and the end of the War of Power and devastating the world.

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** This being the [=WoT=]verse, most commoners (and much of the nobility) are incredibly superstitious and stubborn and believe that all Channeling is evil, though much of that stems from the male Aes Sedai going insane and the end of the War of Power and devastating the world. The Children of the Light is an organization which firmly believes this that seek to hunt down and kill all magic users.



* In ''Literature/TheSwordOfTruth'' the Blood of the Fold believes all magic is from [[TheDevil the Keeper of the Underworld]], and thus hunt down magic users. However, the leader of the group has a sister who is a sorceress [[{{Hypocrite}} whom he uses to further his aims]].
* Clan Righteous in ''Literature/TheLostYearsOfMerlin'' despises all magic, attempting to kill its users and magical creatures without regard for how they use it.



** Mind, supernatural ''miracles'' have always been a part of Judaism and Christianity, however; the difference is the entity to whom one is appealing for supernatural aid: miracles (prophecies, water-into-wine, fire from Heaven, etc.) come from God, magic (i.e. divination, sorcery, necromancy, etc.) from Satan. Generally, Judaism is a lot more relaxed when it comes to magic, and occult traditions using angels and Yahweh have been the norm for centuries.
* In [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek Mythology]], magic is often seen as primal and dangerous. The main magic users, sorceresses like Circe, are almost always villains.

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** Mind, Mind you, supernatural ''miracles'' have always been a part of Judaism and Christianity, however; Christianity; the difference is the entity to whom one is appealing for supernatural aid: miracles (prophecies, water-into-wine, fire from Heaven, etc.) come from God, magic (i.e. divination, sorcery, necromancy, etc.) from Satan. Generally, Judaism is a lot more relaxed when it comes to magic, and occult traditions using angels and Yahweh have been the norm for centuries.
* In [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek Mythology]], magic is often seen as primal and dangerous. The main magic users, sorceresses like Circe, are almost always villains. The Greeks had laws against magic that prefigured many of those later revived under Christian kings in the early modern period {{witch hunt}}s.
4th Apr '16 7:02:25 PM Fireblood
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Some settings simply achieve this effect by featuring predominantly [[WickedWitch wicked]] [[EvilSorceror magic-users]] or magical creatures, contrasting it with liberating and safe technology and ordinary human pursuits. Some settings tie the use of their phlebotinum intrinsically to moral corruption or even the gradual destruction of the world; magic is, at best, a decadent and arrogant practice by frail humans who would wield [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow power too great for them]]. Some even go so far as to make nearly all magic have hideous moral or physical costs that gradually destroy the sorcerer's humanity and make it impossible for magic to be a common fixture of the setting. After all, if there is just the DevilButNoGod; and if magic is theurgic (coming from a magical being), there's no "good" source.

Some settings mitigate this slightly by portraying ''divine'' or religious magic with a more positive brush. In this case the message seems to be that God, or perhaps faith or the community, is acceptable, whereas the sorcerer's lonely power is inherently dehumanizing. A more cynical take on this view might argue that "miracles" are portrayed as good, but "magic" is portrayed as bad, because the church proclaiming the miracles dislikes competition.

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Some settings simply achieve this effect by featuring predominantly [[WickedWitch wicked]] [[EvilSorceror magic-users]] or magical creatures, contrasting it with liberating and safe technology and ordinary human pursuits. Some settings tie the use of their phlebotinum intrinsically to moral corruption or even the gradual destruction of the world; magic is, at best, a decadent and arrogant practice by frail humans who would wield [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow power too great for them]]. Some even go so far as to make nearly all magic have hideous moral or physical costs that gradually destroy the sorcerer's humanity and make it impossible for magic to be a common fixture of the setting. After all, if there is just the DevilButNoGod; DevilButNoGod, and if magic is theurgic (coming from a magical being), there's no "good" source.

Some settings mitigate this slightly by portraying ''divine'' or religious magic with a more positive brush. In this case the message seems to be that God, or perhaps faith or the community, is acceptable, whereas the sorcerer's lonely power is inherently dehumanizing. A more cynical take on this view might argue that "miracles" are portrayed as good, but "magic" is portrayed as bad, because the church proclaiming the miracles dislikes competition.
competition. Evil magic may be portrayed as coming from a DealWithTheDevil, just to drive home the point.
28th Feb '16 1:30:55 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* In the ''Literature/LandOfOz'' books, magic is illegal in the Kingdom of Oz unless you have permission from its ruler, Ozma. (typically, only Glinda, the Wizard, and Ozma herself use it). Of course, you can hardly debate such a rule, because nearly every villain encountered in the books is a sadist who uses black magic of some sort; spells used to inflict BalefulPolymorph and [[AndIMustScream even worse curses]] seem rather common.
20th Feb '16 2:33:17 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* While many characters and cultures in [[Creator/JRRTolkien Tolkien's]] legendarium exercise powers we would call "magical," the terms "magic" and "sorcery" usually imply artificially-acquired powers that seek to forcibly bend the world to the user's will and draw on Morgoth's lingering evil. Benevolent supernatural powers appear to come from understanding and love of the world around you, rather than simple desire to control, and the Elves are frequently confused or annoyed by mortals calling their arts "magic".

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* While many characters and cultures in [[Creator/JRRTolkien Tolkien's]] legendarium exercise powers we would call "magical," the terms "magic" and "sorcery" usually imply artificially-acquired powers that seek to forcibly bend the world to the user's will and draw on Morgoth's lingering evil. Benevolent supernatural powers appear to come from divine force or from understanding and love of the world around you, world, rather than simple desire to control, and the Elves are frequently confused or annoyed by mortals calling their arts "magic".
20th Feb '16 2:31:00 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* CSLewis likewise plays this trope for all it's worth in ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew''. Sure, some kinds of "magic" are all right for the purposes of the story's narration, but not the occult kind of sorcery from our world the foolish and evil Uncle Andrew is practicing without even understanding very well what he's doing.

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* CSLewis likewise plays this trope for all it's worth in ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew''. Sure, some kinds of "magic" (usually divine in origin) are all right for the purposes of the story's narration, but not the occult kind of sorcery from our world the foolish and evil Uncle Andrew is practicing without even understanding very well what he's doing.
18th Feb '16 12:05:27 AM Dravencour
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In these settings, ''all'' magic is essentially BlackMagic, leading quickly to TheDarkSide, and few if any supernatural beings have the best interests of humans in mind. In many cases, magic has few benign uses and can only work its tainted wonders through blood or other acts of terrible sacrifice. It may be tied to horrific beings from beyond that want nothing good for humanity, be it TheLegionsOfHell or some EldritchAbomination that is madness to look upon let alone deal with. Maybe it has some corruptive effect upon the wielder's body, mind, and/or soul, such that anyone who uses it too much will eventually go evil, go mad, or suffer some other inevitably awful fate.

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In these settings, a Magic Is Evil setting, ''all'' magic is essentially BlackMagic, leading quickly to TheDarkSide, and few if any supernatural beings have the best interests of humans in mind. In many cases, magic has few benign uses and can only work its tainted wonders through blood or other acts of terrible sacrifice. It may be tied to horrific beings from beyond that want nothing good for humanity, be it TheLegionsOfHell or some EldritchAbomination that is madness to look upon let alone deal with. Maybe it has some corruptive effect upon the wielder's body, mind, and/or soul, such that anyone who uses it too much will eventually go evil, go mad, or suffer some other inevitably awful fate.
18th Feb '16 12:05:05 AM Dravencour
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In these settings, ''all'' magic is essentially BlackMagic, leading quickly to TheDarkSide, and few if any supernatural beings have the best interests of humans in mind. In many cases, magic has few benign uses and can only work its tainted wonders through blood or other acts of terrible sacrifice. It may be tied to horrific beings from beyond that want nothing good for humanity, be it TheLegionsOfHell or some EldritchAbomination that is madness to look upon let alone deal with. Maybe it has some corruptive effect upon the wielder's body, mind, and/or soul, such that anyone who uses it too much will inevitably go evil, go mad, or suffer some other inevitably awful fate.

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In these settings, ''all'' magic is essentially BlackMagic, leading quickly to TheDarkSide, and few if any supernatural beings have the best interests of humans in mind. In many cases, magic has few benign uses and can only work its tainted wonders through blood or other acts of terrible sacrifice. It may be tied to horrific beings from beyond that want nothing good for humanity, be it TheLegionsOfHell or some EldritchAbomination that is madness to look upon let alone deal with. Maybe it has some corruptive effect upon the wielder's body, mind, and/or soul, such that anyone who uses it too much will inevitably eventually go evil, go mad, or suffer some other inevitably awful fate.
18th Feb '16 12:04:32 AM Dravencour
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In these settings, ''all'' magic is essentially BlackMagic, leading quickly to TheDarkSide, and few if any supernatural beings have the best interests of humans in mind. Some settings simply achieve this effect by featuring predominantly [[WickedWitch wicked]] [[EvilSorceror magic-users]] or magical creatures, contrasting it with liberating and safe technology and ordinary human pursuits. Some settings tie the use of their phlebotinum intrinsically to moral corruption or even the gradual destruction of the world; magic is, at best, a decadent and arrogant practice by frail humans who would wield [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow power too great for them]]. Some even go so far as to make nearly all magic have hideous moral or physical costs that gradually destroy the sorcerer's humanity and make it impossible for magic to be a common fixture of the setting. After all, if there is just the DevilButNoGod; and if magic is theurgic (coming from a magical being), there's no "good" source.

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In these settings, ''all'' magic is essentially BlackMagic, leading quickly to TheDarkSide, and few if any supernatural beings have the best interests of humans in mind. In many cases, magic has few benign uses and can only work its tainted wonders through blood or other acts of terrible sacrifice. It may be tied to horrific beings from beyond that want nothing good for humanity, be it TheLegionsOfHell or some EldritchAbomination that is madness to look upon let alone deal with. Maybe it has some corruptive effect upon the wielder's body, mind, and/or soul, such that anyone who uses it too much will inevitably go evil, go mad, or suffer some other inevitably awful fate.

Some settings simply achieve this effect by featuring predominantly [[WickedWitch wicked]] [[EvilSorceror magic-users]] or magical creatures, contrasting it with liberating and safe technology and ordinary human pursuits. Some settings tie the use of their phlebotinum intrinsically to moral corruption or even the gradual destruction of the world; magic is, at best, a decadent and arrogant practice by frail humans who would wield [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow power too great for them]]. Some even go so far as to make nearly all magic have hideous moral or physical costs that gradually destroy the sorcerer's humanity and make it impossible for magic to be a common fixture of the setting. After all, if there is just the DevilButNoGod; and if magic is theurgic (coming from a magical being), there's no "good" source.
17th Feb '16 11:53:53 PM Dravencour
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In a Magic is Evil setting, ''all'' magic is essentially BlackMagic, leading quickly to TheDarkSide, and few if any supernatural beings have the best interests of humanity in mind. Even well-meaning magic-wielders are generally portrayed as dealing with a dangerous power that will eventually destroy them. Mages and others might be tormented souls, hated and feared by the population, or even actively persecuted. They might also be conduits or dupes for an EldritchAbomination, or doomed to insanity. In many such settings, magic has few benign uses and can only work its tainted wonders through blood or other acts of terrible sacrifice.

The degree to which Magic Is Evil can vary, of course. Some settings simply achieve this effect by featuring predominantly [[WickedWitch wicked]] [[EvilSorceror magic-users]] or magical creatures, contrasting it with liberating and safe technology and ordinary human pursuits. Some settings tie the use of their phlebotinum intrinsically to moral corruption or even the gradual destruction of the world; magic is, at best, a decadent and arrogant practice by frail humans who would wield [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow power too great for them]]. Some even go so far as to make nearly all magic have hideous moral or physical costs that gradually destroy the sorcerer's humanity and make it impossible for magic to be a common fixture of the setting. After all, if there is just the DevilButNoGod; and if magic is theurgic (coming from a magical being), there's no "good" source.

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In a Magic is Evil setting, these settings, ''all'' magic is essentially BlackMagic, leading quickly to TheDarkSide, and few if any supernatural beings have the best interests of humanity humans in mind. Even well-meaning magic-wielders are generally portrayed as dealing with a dangerous power that will eventually destroy them. Mages and others might be tormented souls, hated and feared by the population, or even actively persecuted. They might also be conduits or dupes for an EldritchAbomination, or doomed to insanity. In many such settings, magic has few benign uses and can only work its tainted wonders through blood or other acts of terrible sacrifice.

The degree to which Magic Is Evil can vary, of course.
mind. Some settings simply achieve this effect by featuring predominantly [[WickedWitch wicked]] [[EvilSorceror magic-users]] or magical creatures, contrasting it with liberating and safe technology and ordinary human pursuits. Some settings tie the use of their phlebotinum intrinsically to moral corruption or even the gradual destruction of the world; magic is, at best, a decadent and arrogant practice by frail humans who would wield [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow power too great for them]]. Some even go so far as to make nearly all magic have hideous moral or physical costs that gradually destroy the sorcerer's humanity and make it impossible for magic to be a common fixture of the setting. After all, if there is just the DevilButNoGod; and if magic is theurgic (coming from a magical being), there's no "good" source.
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