History Main / Macekre

2nd Jun '16 5:43:09 PM Daikun
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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following [[TechnologyMarchesOn the rise of cable]] and on-demand streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 1970s-2000s have either closed their doors or left the industry while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs--even for children's television--have taken their place.

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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following [[TechnologyMarchesOn the rise of cable]] and on-demand streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 1970s-2000s have either closed their doors or left the industry while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs--even for children's television--have taken their place.
place.[[note]]''PowerRangers,'' while not an anime, seems to be the sole exception today.[[/note]]
21st May '16 8:03:12 PM Daikun
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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following [[TechnologyMarchesOn the rise of cable]] and on-demand streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 70s-90s have closed their doors while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs--even for children's television--have taken their place.

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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following [[TechnologyMarchesOn the rise of cable]] and on-demand streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 70s-90s 1970s-2000s have either closed their doors or left the industry while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs--even for children's television--have taken their place.
21st May '16 7:59:06 PM Daikun
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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following [[TechnologyMarchesOn the rise of cable]] and on-demand streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 80s and 90s have closed their doors while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs--even for children's television--have taken their place.

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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following [[TechnologyMarchesOn the rise of cable]] and on-demand streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 80s and 90s 70s-90s have closed their doors while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs--even for children's television--have taken their place.
13th May '16 4:33:29 PM Daikun
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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following the rise of cable and on-demand streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 80s and 90s have closed their doors while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs--even for children's television--have taken their place.

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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following [[TechnologyMarchesOn the rise of cable cable]] and on-demand streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 80s and 90s have closed their doors while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs--even for children's television--have taken their place.
13th May '16 2:07:56 AM Daikun
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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following the rise of cable and on-demand streaming.

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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following the rise of cable and on-demand streaming.
streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 80s and 90s have closed their doors while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs--even for children's television--have taken their place.
13th May '16 1:45:09 AM Daikun
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In recent years, this has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has [[DeaderThanDisco lost its luster]] following the rise of cable and on-demand streaming.
12th May '16 7:38:44 PM MercifulCingulatan
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Pronounced similarly to "massacre", the term was coined by anime fans from the name of the late producer/writer [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Macek Carl Macek,]] whose early "free adaptations" of anime frequently bore little or no resemblance to the original Japanese stories. His usual procedure was to dispose of the original script entirely, and write his own from scratch. This was no ''Anime/SamuraiPizzaCats'', however. He would often combine two or more unrelated series simply in order to have enough episodes to fulfill a syndication deal. He is particularly reviled for the seemingly xenophobic ruthlessness with which he purged any hint of Japanese culture -- what he euphemistically called "ethnic gestures" -- from the series which he adapted.[[note]]Macek later claimed that many of these changes, including his having to splice together three different series to create ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'', were a case of ExecutiveMeddling; he was required to force the show to fit syndication-length guidelines, without having complete scripts for any of them, while still making it compelling enough to sell the accompanying toy lines. Trying to tie the three shows together by giving them a unified script was his attempt at meeting these conditions; obviously, this didn't work as well as he hoped. As to the charges of removing "ethnic gestures" from scripts: to be fair to the late Mr. Macek, there is some evidence that his original plan was to have Hikaru Ichijyo/Rick Hunter remain ethnically Japanese, naming him "Rick Yamada".[[/note]]

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Pronounced similarly to "massacre", the term was coined by anime fans from the name of the late producer/writer the late [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Macek Carl Macek,]] whose early "free adaptations" of anime frequently bore little or no resemblance to the original Japanese stories. His usual procedure was to dispose of the original script entirely, and write his own from scratch. This was no ''Anime/SamuraiPizzaCats'', however. He would often combine two or more unrelated series simply in order to have enough episodes to fulfill a syndication deal. He is particularly reviled for the seemingly xenophobic ruthlessness with which he purged any hint of Japanese culture -- what he euphemistically called "ethnic gestures" -- from the series which he adapted.[[note]]Macek later claimed that many of these changes, including his having to splice together three different series to create ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'', were a case of ExecutiveMeddling; he was required to force the show to fit syndication-length guidelines, without having complete scripts for any of them, while still making it compelling enough to sell the accompanying toy lines. Trying to tie the three shows together by giving them a unified script was his attempt at meeting these conditions; obviously, this didn't work as well as he hoped. As to the charges of removing "ethnic gestures" from scripts: to be fair to the late Mr. Macek, there is some evidence that his original plan was to have Hikaru Ichijyo/Rick Hunter remain ethnically Japanese, naming him "Rick Yamada".[[/note]]
2nd May '16 1:18:59 PM MsChibi
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It's important to understand this phenomenon in the context of its time. What modern anime fans might not realize is that at the time, there simply was no Western fanbase for Japanese animation in its pure form and in fact the term "anime" itself was not commonly known to Westerners at all. For many years, a variety of companies simply saw Japanese animation as a cheap way of producing disposable children's programs for syndication. For these companies, the process of buying the rights to Japanese shows, which at that time had no real foreign market, so international rights were cheap, editing, and redubbing them was far more inexpensive than actually producing original animation. This was typically done with no respect whatsoever for the original material, as it was intended for a children's audience typically on weekday mornings and afternoons where they competed with reruns of original series produced for the more profitable Saturday morning timeslot.

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It's important to understand this phenomenon in the context of its time. What modern anime fans might not realize is that at the time, there simply was ''was'' no Western fanbase for Japanese animation in its pure form and in fact the term "anime" itself was not commonly known to Westerners at all. For many years, a variety of companies simply saw Japanese animation as a cheap way of producing [[AnimationAgeGhetto disposable children's programs programs]] for syndication. For these companies, the process of buying the rights to Japanese shows, which at that time had no real foreign market, so international rights were cheap, editing, and redubbing them was far more inexpensive than actually producing original animation. This was typically done with no respect whatsoever for the original material, as it was intended for a children's audience typically on weekday mornings and afternoons where they competed with reruns of original series produced for the more profitable Saturday morning timeslot.
20th Mar '16 3:21:01 PM PF
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->'''Ichigo:''' Mew Mew Style, I think I'll pass, your Mew Mew Power [[CurseCutShort can kiss my--]] \\

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->'''Ichigo:''' Mew Mew Style, I think I'll pass, your Mew Mew Power [[CurseCutShort can kiss my--]] my-- \\



-->-- Fanart that made the rounds of the ''Manga/TokyoMewMew'' fandom upon the release of ''[[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment Mew Mew Power]]''

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-->-- Fanart that made the rounds of the ''Manga/TokyoMewMew'' fandom that made the rounds upon the release of ''[[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment Mew Mew Power]]''
Power]]''.
20th Mar '16 3:03:59 PM aye_amber
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Keep in mind that TropesAreNotBad. Some people use such dubs as a GatewaySeries, and the virulent fan reaction against the dubs may puzzle those not familiar with the original version, or even perhaps those that watched the dubs first. Also, the sliding scale of macekre varies from person to person; what one may consider [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks bad changes]], another may not mind quite as much.

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Keep in mind that TropesAreNotBad.TropesAreTools. Some people use such dubs as a GatewaySeries, and the virulent fan reaction against the dubs may puzzle those not familiar with the original version, or even perhaps those that watched the dubs first. Also, the sliding scale of macekre varies from person to person; what one may consider [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks bad changes]], another may not mind quite as much.
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