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16th May '17 5:52:10 PM AthenaBlue
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* It's standard procedure for the more anticipated films to be produced under a false title, sometimes until they actually arrive at the theaters, to keep people from spying on the shootings or intercepting the reels. For instance, during production of ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', the crew worked under the title "Blue Harvest." But in that case, it was less about snooping fans and mostly to avoid the headaches during ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' when the locations charged extra because they knew a ''Star Wars'' movie was being filmed.

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* It's standard procedure for the more anticipated films to be produced under a false title, sometimes until they actually arrive at the theaters, to keep people from spying on the shootings or intercepting the reels. For instance, during production of ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', the crew worked under the title "Blue Harvest." Harvest". But in that case, it was less about snooping fans and mostly to avoid the headaches during ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' when the locations charged extra because they knew a ''Star Wars'' movie was being filmed.



* In a playful example, Creator/WilliamGoldman presents ''Literature/ThePrincessBride'' as an abridgement of a much longer work by "S. Morgenstern." Neither Morgenstern nor the unabridged work actually exist.

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* In a playful example, Creator/WilliamGoldman presents ''Literature/ThePrincessBride'' as an abridgement of a much longer work by "S. Morgenstern." Morgenstern". Neither Morgenstern nor the unabridged work actually exist.



* [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Jim Butcher]] explains some of the reasons behind it [[http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,8276.msg368509.html# here]].

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* [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Jim Butcher]] Creator/JimButcher, author of ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', ''Literature/CodexAlera'' and ''Literature/TheCinderSpires'', explains some of the reasons behind it [[http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,8276.msg368509.html# here]].



*** ExactWords: [[spoiler: She's [[GenderBender the Mistress now]], not the Master.]]

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*** ExactWords: [[spoiler: She's [[spoiler:She's [[GenderBender the Mistress now]], not the Master.]]]]
*** Which was then nullified when [[spoiler:Creator/JohnSimm's Master returned in series 10]].
16th May '17 1:46:26 AM PaulA
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* In a playful example, WilliamGoldman presents ''Literature/ThePrincessBride'' as an abridgement of a much longer work by "S. Morgenstern." Neither Morgenstern nor the unabridged work actually exist.

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* In a playful example, WilliamGoldman Creator/WilliamGoldman presents ''Literature/ThePrincessBride'' as an abridgement of a much longer work by "S. Morgenstern." Neither Morgenstern nor the unabridged work actually exist.
21st Apr '17 9:41:30 PM nombretomado
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* A character in Suda51's ''VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes'', which [[NoFourthWall lacks a fourth wall]], states to the player that "there won't be a sequel" at the end. Then we got ''VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes2DesperateStruggle''.
** The game ''did'' end on a '''ToBeContinued'''-screen, however. This is probably more a case of {{Suda 51}} [[PostModernism being Suda 51]].

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* A character in Suda51's Creator/Suda51's ''VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes'', which [[NoFourthWall lacks a fourth wall]], states to the player that "there won't be a sequel" at the end. Then we got ''VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes2DesperateStruggle''.
** The game ''did'' end on a '''ToBeContinued'''-screen, however. This is probably more a case of {{Suda 51}} [=Suda51=] [[PostModernism being Suda 51]].
10th Apr '17 3:14:44 PM nombretomado
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* Steve Lycett of Sumo Digital [[http://www.tssznews.com/2009/11/30/exclusive-banjo-kazooie-in-asr-not-so-fast-says-lycett/ said]] that he'd "not hold too much stock in" leaked evidence pointing towards a {{guest|Fighter}} appearance from [[VideoGame/BanjoKazooie Banjo and Kazooie]] in the UsefulNotes/{{Xbox 360}} version of ''[[SegaSuperstars Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing]]''. Then he let Sega go ahead and officially announce the bear and bird a few weeks later.

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* Steve Lycett of Sumo Digital [[http://www.tssznews.com/2009/11/30/exclusive-banjo-kazooie-in-asr-not-so-fast-says-lycett/ said]] that he'd "not hold too much stock in" leaked evidence pointing towards a {{guest|Fighter}} appearance from [[VideoGame/BanjoKazooie Banjo and Kazooie]] in the UsefulNotes/{{Xbox 360}} version of ''[[SegaSuperstars ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing]]''. Then he let Sega go ahead and officially announce the bear and bird a few weeks later.
31st Mar '17 1:33:30 PM RacattackForce
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* Some people accuse the creators of ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' of lying about the presence of an official timeline for the series.
** Quote from [[http://gannon-banned.com/ Gannon-Banned]]: "At E3 2007, IGN conducted an interview with Eiji Aonuma, in which he revealed that there is a document on a few computers at NCL which are marked 'top secret' which contain the basic 'timeline' of the entire Zelda series, known or unknown to the public. /b/ army, do not fail me and get that document!"
*** However, a official timeline was finally revealed in an art book released in 2011 along with the latest game, ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]''. Though it contains notes that the timeline could change at a moment's notice.

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* Some First, an [[SubvertedTrope subversion]]. Before it was revealed in 2011 to coincide with the series' 25th anniversary, a decent amount of people accuse assumed that the creators presence of an official timeline for ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' of lying about the presence of an official timeline for the series.
** Quote from [[http://gannon-banned.com/ Gannon-Banned]]: "At E3 2007, IGN conducted an interview with Eiji Aonuma, in
was this trope. Even after it was revealed, some remained incredulous, as some minor issues and contractions still remained. (At which he revealed that there is a document on a few computers at NCL which are marked 'top secret' which contain point, Nintendo basically told fans the basic 'timeline' of the entire Zelda series, known or unknown to the public. /b/ army, do not fail me and get that document!"
*** However, a official timeline was finally revealed in an art book released in 2011 along with the latest game, ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]''. Though it contains notes that the timeline could change at a moment's notice.
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** The N64 game ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' was designed to have things added to it by a disk for the [=N64DD=] add-on to the system, codenamed ''Ura Zelda''. This was never released in the end. Years later a special edition of ''Ocarina of Time'' was made, called ''Master Quest'', which had the insides of dungeons altered and was otherwise the same. Nintendo said that this is what Ura Zelda was supposed to be but many fans don't believe it, claiming that Ura was said to change more than this. Conversely, Nintendo might have simply lied about how big the changes for ''Ura Zelda'' were going to be.
** On the topic of Nintendo, let's play a drinking game, where you take a shot every time they announce that a new console is going to be a third pillar to an existing two, then quickly discontinue the least popular of the older two a few months later. This has pretty much been happening since the UsefulNotes/NintendoDS was introduced.
** Also, they along with Nvidia claimed that the UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch will contain a Nvidia Tegra X1 [=SoC=] that has been customized to their exact needs. When Tech Insider got their hands on a sample of the CPU and proceeded to analyze the silicon, they found it to be a stock X1 with no modifications whatsoever. On the other hand, it does have one customization- Nintendo's otherwise-meaningless custom part number silkscreened on the package.

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** The N64 game ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' was designed to have things added to it by a disk for the [=N64DD=] add-on to the system, codenamed ''Ura Zelda''. This was never released in the end. Years later a special edition of ''Ocarina of Time'' was made, called ''Master Quest'', which had the insides of dungeons altered and was otherwise the same. In an odd example of the trope, Nintendo said that this is what Ura Zelda was supposed to be but many fans don't believe it, claiming that Ura was said to change more than this. Conversely, Nintendo might have simply lied about how big the changes for ''Ura Zelda'' were going to be.
be. So the assumption is that Nintendo lied...but fans are unsure ''how'' they lied.
** On the topic of Nintendo, let's play a drinking game, where you take a shot every time they announce that a new console is going to be a third pillar to an existing two, then quickly discontinue the least popular of the older two a few months later. This has pretty much been happening since the UsefulNotes/NintendoDS was introduced.
** Also, they along with
non-Zelda note, Nintendo and Nvidia claimed that the UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch will contain a Nvidia Tegra X1 [=SoC=] that has been customized to their exact needs. When Tech Insider got their hands on a sample of the CPU and proceeded to analyze the silicon, they found it to be a stock X1 with no modifications whatsoever. On the other hand, it does have [[ExactWords one customization- customization]] - Nintendo's otherwise-meaningless custom part number silkscreened on the package.
28th Mar '17 11:23:56 AM jharrison3051
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** Probably the most notorious example came after the fifth season finale, when Jon Snow was stabbed repeatedly by Night's Watch mutineers and left to die in the snow. Literally [[http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Look-Back-Game-Thrones-Actors-Execs-Who-Lied-About-Jon-Snow-135437.html everyone involved with the show]] unequivocally stated the character was dead and never coming back. David Benioff and D.B. Weiss gave countless interviews talking about how difficult it was to kill off the character. The president of HBO said he was "Dead is dead as dead as dead." Harington stated [[http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/game-of-thrones-jon-snow-dead-finale-season-five-kit-harington-1201519627/ in an interview]], "Iím dead. Iím not coming back next season... We did the Tony Soprano walk. And they said, ĎLook, youíre gone, itís done.'" David Nutter, the director of the episode, even [[http://winteriscoming.net/2015/07/11/director-david-nutter-to-president-obama-really-jon-snow-is-dead/ told President Obama]] when asked point-blank that "Jon Snow is deader than dead." Harington was spotted near the show's Belfast filming location several times during the filming of the sixth season, and claimed he was only appearing as a corpse. Jon was resurrected in the second episode of the sixth season, and the next day Harington told ''Entertainment Weekly'', "I'd like to say sorry for lying to everyone."
27th Mar '17 6:46:03 AM Adept
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* During production of ''WebVideo/SuburbanKnights'', it was hotly debated among fans whether the special would feature the return of ThatDudeInTheSuede, the site's first outside hire who had left for two years on a mission for his church. Both Suede and the Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses staff made statements that they remained on good terms, but Suede had decided not to return to the site after he returned home and preferred to focus on some new online projects. Then a certain mask comes off...

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* During production of ''WebVideo/SuburbanKnights'', it was hotly debated among fans whether the special would feature the return of ThatDudeInTheSuede, WebVideo/ThatDudeInTheSuede, the site's first outside hire who had left for two years on a mission for his church. Both Suede and the Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses staff made statements that they remained on good terms, but Suede had decided not to return to the site after he returned home and preferred to focus on some new online projects. Then a certain mask comes off...
22nd Mar '17 2:42:45 AM RAMChYLD
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** Granted, it's not so much "keeping the fans guessing" as it is [[SpringtimeForHitler "wanting to end the series, but constantly being roped in for another go."]] Kojima's been at it since ''[=MGS2=]''. He's also gone on record saying that he receives death threats every time he announces that he's ending the series.

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** Granted, it's not so much "keeping the fans guessing" as it is [[SpringtimeForHitler "wanting to end the series, but constantly being roped in for another go."]] Kojima's been at it since ''[=MGS2=]''. He's also gone on record saying that he receives death threats every time he announces that he's ending the series.Metal Gear series, and no one really knows if that's true.
22nd Mar '17 2:40:01 AM RAMChYLD
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** Granted, it's not so much "keeping the fans guessing" as it is [[SpringtimeForHitler "wanting to end the series, but constantly being roped in for another go."]] Kojima's been at it since ''[=MGS2=]''.
** Kojima has stated that the only reason that [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain MGSV]] doesn't have a UsefulNotes/WiiU version because there's nothing he can do with the gamepad only to announce a few weeks later that the [=PS4=] version will have remote play capability with the Vita and the XboxOne will have Smartglass capabilities.

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** Granted, it's not so much "keeping the fans guessing" as it is [[SpringtimeForHitler "wanting to end the series, but constantly being roped in for another go."]] Kojima's been at it since ''[=MGS2=]''.
''[=MGS2=]''. He's also gone on record saying that he receives death threats every time he announces that he's ending the series.
** Kojima has stated that the only reason that [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain MGSV]] doesn't have a UsefulNotes/WiiU version because there's nothing he can do with the gamepad only to announce a few weeks later that the [=PS4=] version will have remote play capability with the Vita and the XboxOne will have Smartglass capabilities. Perhaps he's trying to be polite and trying to avoid calling Nintendo's choice of hardware "underpowered", given that he's a fan of many of Nintendo's franchises.
21st Mar '17 11:33:15 PM RAMChYLD
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** On the topic of Nintendo, let's play a drinking game, where you take a shot every time they announce that a new console is going to be a third pillar to an existing two, then quickly discontinue the least popular of the older two a few months later. This has pretty much been happening since the UsefulNotes/NintendoDS was introduced.
** Also, they along with Nvidia claimed that the UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch will contain a Nvidia Tegra X1 [=SoC=] that has been customized to their exact needs. When Tech Insider got their hands on a sample of the CPU and proceeded to analyze the silicon, they found it to be a stock X1 with no modifications whatsoever. On the other hand, it does have one customization- Nintendo's otherwise-meaningless custom part number silkscreened on the package.
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