History Main / LoyalToThePosition

13th Mar '18 8:25:09 PM crowmagnon
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* In ''Film/BlackPanther'', the [[AmazonBrigade Dora Milaje]] are sworn to serve the king of Wakanda, whoever that may be. As a result, they agree to follow Killmonger after he seems to have killed T'challa in ritual combat. However, when T'challa is revealed to still be alive, thereby leaving the challenge for the throne unresolved, Killmonger's refusal to finish the fight honorably causes them to reassert their loyalty to T'challa.
5th Feb '18 3:32:16 PM Discar
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Suppose that we live in TheKingdom. Our wise king hires a treasurer -- to mint coins, balance the Kingdom's budget, raise revenue, borrow funds cheaply, and all of the other BoringButPractical essentials of keeping the Kingdom running. Our treasurer does an exemplary job.

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Suppose that we live in TheKingdom.TheGoodKingdom. Our wise king hires a treasurer -- to mint coins, balance the Kingdom's budget, raise revenue, borrow funds cheaply, and all of the other BoringButPractical essentials of keeping the Kingdom running. Our treasurer does an exemplary job.
10th Nov '17 1:06:20 PM Malady
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* Obsidian and Strika in ''Wesaternanimation/{{Beast Machines}}'' don't particularly care what Megatron is up to; they simply serve whoever rules Cybertron, and when Megatron is [[{{Not Quite Dead}} apparently]] destroyed, they seriously consider siding with the Maximals. Thrust calls them out on this, arguing that if they're loyal to everybody, can they truly be loyal to anybody?
** This comes up a decent amount among the baddies of the Transformers franchise. Should TheStarscream succeed in taking over, there will be many who will then unquestioningly follow their orders. Should their old boss come back, they will go back to serving them. An example would be Soundwave from TransformersPrime.

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* Obsidian and Strika in ''Wesaternanimation/{{Beast Machines}}'' ''Wesaternanimation/BeastMachines'' don't particularly care what Megatron is up to; they simply serve whoever rules Cybertron, and when Megatron is [[{{Not Quite Dead}} [[NotQuiteDead apparently]] destroyed, they seriously consider siding with the Maximals. Thrust calls them out on this, arguing that if they're loyal to everybody, can they truly be loyal to anybody?
** This comes up a decent amount among the baddies of the Transformers franchise. Should TheStarscream succeed in taking over, there will be many who will then unquestioningly follow their orders. Should their old boss come back, they will go back to serving them. An example would be Soundwave from TransformersPrime.''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime''.



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* In China's [[ThreeKingdomsShuWeiWu Three Kingdoms]] period, Chen Deng was known for serving Tao Qian, then Liu Bei, then Lu Bu, then Cao Cao. Yes, some people think that four unrelated rulers indicates ChronicBackstabbingDisorder. But there's another way of looking at it: he first served Governor Tao Qian of Xu, then his successor Governor Liu Bei of Xu, then the unreliable Lu Bu (who had seized control of Xu), and finally Cao Cao, who ruled multiple provinces (and conquered Xu). As a bonus, his father Chen Gui also served with him -- and, before the four, Chen Gui served the Han Empire (which, naturally, included Xu!).

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* In China's [[ThreeKingdomsShuWeiWu Three Kingdoms]] UsefulNotes/{{Three Kingdoms|ShuWeiWu}} period, Chen Deng was known for serving Tao Qian, then Liu Bei, then Lu Bu, then Cao Cao. Yes, some people think that four unrelated rulers indicates ChronicBackstabbingDisorder. But there's another way of looking at it: he first served Governor Tao Qian of Xu, then his successor Governor Liu Bei of Xu, then the unreliable Lu Bu (who had seized control of Xu), and finally Cao Cao, who ruled multiple provinces (and conquered Xu). As a bonus, his father Chen Gui also served with him -- and, before the four, Chen Gui served the Han Empire (which, naturally, included Xu!).Xu!).
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27th Oct '17 10:08:19 PM AdamC
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* Dolores Umbridge from the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books. First she very thoroughly implements the policies of a Minister of Magic who is in utter denial regarding the resurrection of Voldemort. When we meet her again a few books later, she works ''for'' Voldemort! A less clear-cut example than most on this page, however, since she's so sadistic that it's highly likely she's in it more for the abuse of power than the job in itself. [[spoiler: And when Voldemort is killed and overthrown, the resistance aren't very understanding of the crimes she committed under the regime. WordOfGod says they threw the book at her but good.]]

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* Dolores Umbridge from the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books. First she very thoroughly implements the policies of a Minister of Magic who is in utter denial regarding the resurrection of Voldemort. When we meet her again a few books later, she works ''for'' Voldemort! A less clear-cut example than most on this page, however, since she's so sadistic that it's highly likely she's in it more for the abuse of power than the job in itself. Also Voldemort set up a puppet regime rather than outright announce his conquest, giving Umbridge some degree of plausible deniability. [[spoiler: And when Voldemort is Either way, once Voldemort's been killed and overthrown, the resistance aren't very understanding of the crimes she committed under the regime. WordOfGod says they threw the book at her but good.]]
24th Jun '17 9:36:47 AM nombretomado
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* ''JudgeDee'': Judges are moved to a different position in a different province every few years, to avoid complacency and corruption settling in.

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* ''JudgeDee'': ''Literature/JudgeDee'': Judges are moved to a different position in a different province every few years, to avoid complacency and corruption settling in.
27th Apr '17 12:35:55 PM TheUnknownUploader
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* In ''WebVideo/{{Kickassia}},'' Fritz Von Baugh appears to be this way as first, but it soon becomes clear he's trying to stir up resentment towards WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic so he'll be overthrown.

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* In ''WebVideo/{{Kickassia}},'' Fritz Von Baugh Baugh, Minister of Keeping Things Orderly, appears to be this way as first, but it soon becomes clear he's trying to stir up resentment towards WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic so he'll be overthrown.
4th Apr '17 4:37:46 PM karstovich2
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** Varys is probably the best example, holding his position as spymaster under the Targaryens, the Baratheons, the [[spoiler: Lannisters, and then the Targaryens--well, ''a'' Targaryen, not that there are many left--again.]] Treasurer Petyr Baelish does so too, until he decides it's prudent to get the hell out of Dodge, but in his case it's more naked self-serving ambition than loyalty to anything.

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** Varys is probably the best example, holding his position as spymaster Master of Whispers (i.e. TheSpymaster) under the Targaryens, the Baratheons, the [[spoiler: Lannisters, and then the Targaryens--well, ''a'' Targaryen, not that there are many left--again.]] Treasurer left--again. This last one is a break from the usual pattern, as Danaerys is not the "official" regime (not yet, anyway), although from his perspective he was always acting according to what he understands to be the "good of the Realm"--and, given that he knows everything from his spy network, he has a good sense of what's good for the Realm]].
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Petyr Baelish does so too, also sticks through the transitions, serving as Master of Coin (i.e. the royal treasurer) under multiple regimes, until he decides it's prudent to get the hell out of Dodge, but in his case it's more naked self-serving ambition than loyalty to anything.
4th Mar '17 4:03:18 PM nombretomado
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* Gladiator of the Shi'Ar Imperial Guard in MarvelComics. He serves the ruler of the Shi'ar Empire, whether that's [[TheEvilPrince D'Ken]], [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Lilandra]] or [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Deathbird]]. Eventually, [[TheCaligula Vulcan]] proves too much for him, and following Vulcan's death, [[spoiler: he reluctantly takes the role of Emperor himself]].
* Gateway, an Aborigine who appeared in ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}''. He spent most of his time in quiet meditation, but he also had the power to open portals, and would do so for ''anyone'' who requested it, no questions asked.

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* Gladiator of the Shi'Ar Imperial Guard in MarvelComics.Creator/MarvelComics. He serves the ruler of the Shi'ar Empire, whether that's [[TheEvilPrince D'Ken]], [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Lilandra]] or [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Deathbird]]. Eventually, [[TheCaligula Vulcan]] proves too much for him, and following Vulcan's death, [[spoiler: he reluctantly takes the role of Emperor himself]].
* Gateway, an Aborigine who appeared in ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}''.''ComicBook/XMen''. He spent most of his time in quiet meditation, but he also had the power to open portals, and would do so for ''anyone'' who requested it, no questions asked.
12th Jan '17 3:08:39 PM DragonAtma
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* In China's [[ThreeKingdomsShuWeiWu Three Kingdoms]] period, Chen Deng was known for serving Tao Qian, then Liu Bei, then Lu Bu, then Cao Cao. Yes, some people think that four unrelated rulers indicates ChronicBackstabbingDisorder. But there's another way of looking at it: he first served Governor Tao Qian of Xu, then his successor Governor Liu Bei of Xu, then the unreliable Lu Bu (who had seized control of Xu), and finally Cao Cao, who ruled multiple provinces (and conquered Xu). As a bonus, his father Chen Gui also served with him -- and, before the four, he served the Han Empire (which, naturally, incldued Xu!).

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* In China's [[ThreeKingdomsShuWeiWu Three Kingdoms]] period, Chen Deng was known for serving Tao Qian, then Liu Bei, then Lu Bu, then Cao Cao. Yes, some people think that four unrelated rulers indicates ChronicBackstabbingDisorder. But there's another way of looking at it: he first served Governor Tao Qian of Xu, then his successor Governor Liu Bei of Xu, then the unreliable Lu Bu (who had seized control of Xu), and finally Cao Cao, who ruled multiple provinces (and conquered Xu). As a bonus, his father Chen Gui also served with him -- and, before the four, he Chen Gui served the Han Empire (which, naturally, incldued included Xu!).
12th Jan '17 3:07:11 PM DragonAtma
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* In China's [[ThreeKingdomsShuWeiWu Three Kingdoms]] period, Chen Deng was known for serving Tao Qian, then Liu Bei, then Lu Bu, then Cao Cao. Yes, some people think that four unrelated rulers indicates ChronicBackstabbingDisorder. But there's another way of looking at it: he first served Governor Tao Qian of Xu, then his successor Governor Liu Bei of Xu, then the unreliable Lu Bu (who had seized control of Xu), and finally Cao Cao, who ruled multiple provinces (and conquered Xu). As a bonus, his father Chen Gui also served with him -- and, before the four, he served the Han Empire (which, naturally, incldued Xu!).
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