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5th Nov '16 8:05:25 PM Berrenta
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A common cause of the UnbuiltTrope. Compare RetCanon, SeinfeldIsUnfunny, InkStainAdaptation. Since the first imitators change things from the original work, this is strongly related to SadlyMythtaken.

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A common cause of the UnbuiltTrope. Compare RetCanon, SeinfeldIsUnfunny, InkStainAdaptation.AudienceColoringAdaptation. Since the first imitators change things from the original work, this is strongly related to SadlyMythtaken.
21st Oct '16 11:49:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* Professor Challenger has, similar to Quatermain, returned in various projects which seem to cash in on ''Film/TheLostWorldJurassicPark'' and ''Film/KingKong'' -- which Challenger's debut, ''Literature/TheLostWorld'', influenced.

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* Professor Challenger has, similar to Quatermain, returned in various projects which seem to cash in on ''Film/TheLostWorldJurassicPark'' and ''Film/KingKong'' -- which Challenger's debut, ''Literature/TheLostWorld'', ''Literature/TheLostWorld1912'', influenced.
15th Oct '16 11:29:02 PM Tron80
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* Ever since ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' cast Creator/PhilMorris to play the Comicbook/MartianManhunter's "John Jones" identity, just about every subsequent adaptation (such as ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' and ''Series/{{Supergirl}}'') has made the Manhunter's human form a black man.
* As [[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/other/other.php?topic=phonebooth this page]] analyzes, “If you ask the average person on the street, ‘Where does Clark Kent change into Franchise/{{Superman}}?’, nine out of ten people will answer ‘In a phone booth’”. This particular part of Superman mythology was not originated in the comics, but in "The Mechanical Monsters", a Fleischer WesternAnimation/{{Superman Theatrical Cartoon|s}}. The page presents another 9 mentions until 1978 (another Fleischer cartoon, 1 Superman Sunday Newspaper, 1 Continental Insurance Superman Ad, some references to [[Radio/TheAdventuresOfSuperman the radio series]], and one reference to the Superman Broadway Musical, and four cover in the comics). But then mentions the joke in ''Film/{{Superman}}'' (1978) works because, for some reason, everyone "knows" Clark Kent uses a phone booth to make his quick-change into Superman. How could this be if the joke was made only ten times in Superman Canon? Because the joke was made ''far'' more often than that in canon. The author of the article admits (toward the bottom) that he didn't bother to find all the instances of Superman changing in a phone booth in the comics; he's (mostly) only citing appearances in other media. It may have originated in the serials, but the comics were quite happy to pick it up and run with it.
** Creator/RichardDonner's original Film/SupermanTheMovie and its sequel, Film/SupermanII remain the main template for live-action adaptations to the extent that recent Superman movies like Creator/BryanSinger's Film/SupermanReturns and Film/ManOfSteel still use the same familiar tropes and characteristics from these movies with Singer using the first two movies (made in TheSeventies) as continuity. For instance, Superman's RoguesGallery in movies can be restricted to Luthor and Zod, and it took Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice to introduce a new member of Superman's RoguesGallery: Doomsday, who was himself a deformed clone of [[spoiler:General Zod's body]]. There have been talks of bringing in Brainiac, Mxyzsptlk, Bizarro, Toyman, Parasite among many others into the movie continuity but the first two Donner movies remain the main reference point.

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* Ever since ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' cast Creator/PhilMorris to play the Comicbook/MartianManhunter's "John Jones" identity, just about every subsequent adaptation (such as ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' and ''Series/{{Supergirl}}'') ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}}'') has made the Manhunter's human form a black man.
* Franchise/{{Superman}}:
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As [[http://www.supermanhomepage.com/other/other.php?topic=phonebooth this page]] analyzes, “If you ask the average person on the street, ‘Where does Clark Kent change into Franchise/{{Superman}}?’, nine out of ten people will answer ‘In a phone booth’”. This particular part of Superman mythology was not originated in the comics, but in "The Mechanical Monsters", a Fleischer WesternAnimation/{{Superman Theatrical Cartoon|s}}. The page presents another 9 mentions until 1978 (another Fleischer cartoon, 1 Superman Sunday Newspaper, 1 Continental Insurance Superman Ad, some references to [[Radio/TheAdventuresOfSuperman the radio series]], and one reference to the Superman Broadway Musical, and four cover in the comics). But then mentions the joke in ''Film/{{Superman}}'' (1978) works because, for some reason, everyone "knows" Clark Kent uses a phone booth to make his quick-change into Superman. How could this be if the joke was made only ten times in Superman Canon? Because the joke was made ''far'' more often than that in canon. The author of the article admits (toward the bottom) that he didn't bother to find all the instances of Superman changing in a phone booth in the comics; he's (mostly) only citing appearances in other media. It may have originated in the serials, but the comics were quite happy to pick it up and run with it.
** Creator/RichardDonner's original Film/SupermanTheMovie and its sequel, Film/SupermanII remain the main template for live-action adaptations to the extent that recent Superman movies like Creator/BryanSinger's Film/SupermanReturns and Film/ManOfSteel still use the same familiar tropes and characteristics from these movies with Singer using the first two movies (made in TheSeventies) as continuity. For instance, Superman's RoguesGallery in movies can be restricted to Luthor and Zod, and it took Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice to introduce a new member of Superman's RoguesGallery: Doomsday, who was himself a deformed clone of [[spoiler:General Zod's body]]. There have been talks of bringing in Brainiac, Mxyzsptlk, Bizarro, Toyman, Parasite among many others and secondary characters like Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} into the movie continuity but the first two Donner movies remain the main reference point.
4th Oct '16 8:05:22 AM madammina
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** In the novel, Mina Harker was A) In love with Jonathan for the entire book B) Was FORCED to drink Dracula's blood and C) repeatedly came up with the successful ideas to counter Dracula after the men's initial plans failed. (in fact, keeping her out of it caused her to be bitten as she didn't realize she should prepare) None of this generally ends up in any adaptation. MAYBE she likes Jonathan in the beginning, but that's about it.
20th Sep '16 6:28:13 AM Naram-Sin
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** The pervasive idea that the novel cheers Don Quixote's rejection of reality and depicts him as a misunderstood hero is also nothing but [[DeathOfTheAuthor centuries-old]] AlternateCharacterInterpretation. In reality, the first book has little but contempt for Don Quixote or his condition. The second book is more sympathetic to Don Quixote, but it also ends with him [[FixFic recovering his senses]], sending Sancho away for buying into the fantasy world [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions he has now rejected]], and [[TorchTheFranchiseAndRun dying after learning what a fool he has been.]]
16th Sep '16 7:50:14 PM maxwellsilver
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* Many comic book characters have this happen, with the changes frequently becoming RetCanon.
13th Sep '16 7:40:18 PM BrendanRizzo
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** The ''1916'' film version, of all adaptations, got this right!
1st Sep '16 1:01:15 PM lalalei2001
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* The musical ''Theatre/JekyllAndHyde'' is based on Spencer Tracy's and earlier movie versions of Stevenson's novel more than the text itself. Almost all adaptations have a BettyAndVeronica LoveTriangle with Jekyll engaged to Sir Danvers Carew's daughter, and Hyde hooking up with a good-time girl ... all entirely absent from the book... to say nothing of the fact that Jekyll and Hyde being the same person was the ''twist ending'' of the book, while in practically every adaptation, [[AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame the duality is known and played up from the beginning of the story]], and indeed becomes the point of the plot.

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* The musical ''Theatre/JekyllAndHyde'' is based on Spencer Tracy's and earlier movie versions of Stevenson's novel more than the text itself. Almost all adaptations have a BettyAndVeronica LoveTriangle with Jekyll engaged Later Broadway revivals hew closer to Sir Danvers Carew's daughter, the show's original vision, which was darker and Hyde hooking up with a good-time girl ... all entirely absent from edgier than the book... to say nothing of the fact that Jekyll 1997 version and Hyde being the same person was the ''twist ending'' of closer to the book, while having Jekyll revel in practically every adaptation, [[AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame the duality is known freedom Hyde gave him and played up paraphrasing directly from the beginning of the story]], and indeed becomes the point of the plot.book as he contemplated his dual natures.
31st Aug '16 1:47:08 PM lalalei2001
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* The novella ''Literature/TheStrangeCaseOfDrJekyllAndMrHyde'' is a [[ItWasHisSled mystery]] story about a lawyer who turns detective to discover why his client has made a will leaving everything to a mysterious ne'er-do-well, with the twist only revealed at the end. Since the twist is so famous, adaptations tend to focus on the drama between Jekyll and Hyde, often giving Jekyll a love interest or two to further enhance the tragedy. Utterson, the viewpoint character in the book, is often omitted, combined with Dr. Lanyon, or has his role reduced.

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* The novella ''Literature/TheStrangeCaseOfDrJekyllAndMrHyde'' is a [[ItWasHisSled mystery]] mystery story about a lawyer who turns detective to discover why his client has made a will leaving everything to a mysterious ne'er-do-well, with the twist that they're the same person only revealed at the end. Since the twist is so famous, adaptations tend to focus on the drama between Jekyll and Hyde, often making Jekyll more heroic and giving Jekyll him a love interest or two to further enhance the tragedy. Utterson, the viewpoint character in the book, is often omitted, has his role reduced, combined with Dr. Lanyon, or has his role reduced.omitted entirely.
31st Aug '16 12:44:20 AM lalalei2001
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A strange form of AdaptationDecay where new adaptations of an original work -- generally a work which has inspired countless imitators -- actually resemble the previous imitators more than the original. Sometimes the changes are subversive, or done because the original themes [[ValuesDissonance are no longer accepted by the audience]], but often it's [[TheCoconutEffect just because the writers think that it's what the audience is used to seeing at this point]]. It is especially prone when there is a PragmaticAdaptation in play, with a belief that a truly 100% faithful adaptation is not possible in another medium. Done properly, though, you have CharacterDevelopment like no one's business.

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A strange form of AdaptationDecay where new New adaptations of an original work -- generally a work which has inspired countless imitators -- actually tend to resemble the previous imitators imitations more than the original. Sometimes the changes are subversive, or done because the original themes [[ValuesDissonance are no longer accepted by the audience]], but often it's [[TheCoconutEffect just because the writers think that it's what the audience is used to seeing at this point]]. It is especially prone when there is a PragmaticAdaptation in play, with a belief that a truly 100% faithful adaptation is not possible in another medium. Done properly, though, you have CharacterDevelopment like no one's business.



A common cause of the UnbuiltTrope. Compare RetCanon, SeinfeldIsUnfunny, InkStainAdaptation.

Since the first imitators (who then everyone imitates) change things from the original work, this is strongly related to SadlyMythtaken.

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A common cause of the UnbuiltTrope. Compare RetCanon, SeinfeldIsUnfunny, InkStainAdaptation.

InkStainAdaptation. Since the first imitators (who then everyone imitates) change things from the original work, this is strongly related to SadlyMythtaken.
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