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15th Mar '17 6:46:10 AM HighCrate
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** I think the message here is that "the only life you're allowed to sacrifice for the greater good is your own." Grindelwald was a Dark Lord because he was justifying sacrificing others as something that will eventually result in the good of all; while Harry is a hero because he takes the responsibility and the consequences of his actions on himself, sacrificing noone's life but his own.
15th Mar '17 4:50:13 AM FeralMulan
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**I think the message here is that "the only life you're allowed to sacrifice for the greater good is your own." Grindelwald was a Dark Lord because he was justifying sacrificing others as something that will eventually result in the good of all; while Harry is a hero because he takes the responsibility and the consequences of his actions on himself, sacrificing noone's life but his own.
13th Mar '17 3:23:01 PM Unicorndance
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* ''WesternAnimation/HelloKitty'': The episode "Replying Properly" begins with a rather obvious Aesop about "always answer when someone calls your name", but then it turns into "slang is bad" (i.e. Mama Cat saying "shouldn't you say 'yes' instead of 'uh-huh'?"), which escalates when a monster appears who gets bigger when he hears 'yeah, what?', but smaller when he hears 'yes'. Then, they all play hide-and-seek and Kitty answers upon being called, giving herself away, so...don't call someone's name when they're playing hide-and-seek.

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* ''WesternAnimation/HelloKitty'': The episode "Replying Properly" begins with a rather obvious Aesop about "always answer when someone calls your name", but then it turns into "slang is bad" (i.e. Mama Cat saying "shouldn't you say 'yes' instead of 'uh-huh'?"), which escalates when [[SpaceWhaleAesop a monster appears who gets bigger when he hears 'yeah, what?', but smaller when he hears 'yes'.'yes']]. Then, they all play hide-and-seek and Kitty answers upon being called, giving herself away, so...don't call someone's name when they're playing hide-and-seek.
22nd Feb '17 2:49:59 PM HighCrate
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*** One possible interpretation of the episode basically states "The third option isn't necessarily the best option, and ''all'' options should be considered with logic instead of blind faith"
22nd Feb '17 10:25:32 AM Dere
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** ''Unlimited'' Seasons One and Two: Even the writers admit that they had written themselves into a corner concerning whether or not superheroes were a good or a bad thing, which was the driving question of the two-season long MythArc. Thankfully, [[ConflictKiller then the space alien computer showed up]] and it was so cool, [[DistractedByTheShiny few cared until they reached]] [[FridgeLogic the fridge.]]

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** ''Unlimited'' Seasons One and Two: Even the writers admit that they had written themselves into a corner concerning whether or not superheroes were a good or a bad thing, which was the driving question of the two-season long MythArc. Thankfully, Then [[ConflictKiller then the space alien computer computer]] [[DebateAndSwitch showed up]] and it was so cool, [[DistractedByTheShiny few cared until they reached]] [[FridgeLogic the fridge.]]
17th Jan '17 11:47:32 AM wrpen99
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*** One possible interpretation of the episode basically states "The third option isn't necessarily the best option, and ''all'' options should be considered with logic instead of blind faith"
7th Jan '17 10:31:50 AM nombretomado
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After people noted the apparent FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that science can't explain everything and therefore you should believe in some paranormal things or something similar, WordOfGod admitted that the aesop had got lost along the way. Then again, the comment by LaurenFaust about what it was really supposed to be about[[note]]There are some things where the evidence is inconclusive, so you have to either remain agnostic or take it on faith one way or another. ...Okay?[[/note]] still sounded like a lost aesop and hardly made the matter much clearer. Perhaps more to the point was her saying that it was supposed to be a funny episode about the characters' personalities interacting.

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After people noted the apparent FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that science can't explain everything and therefore you should believe in some paranormal things or something similar, WordOfGod admitted that the aesop had got lost along the way. Then again, the comment by LaurenFaust Creator/LaurenFaust about what it was really supposed to be about[[note]]There are some things where the evidence is inconclusive, so you have to either remain agnostic or take it on faith one way or another. ...Okay?[[/note]] still sounded like a lost aesop and hardly made the matter much clearer. Perhaps more to the point was her saying that it was supposed to be a funny episode about the characters' personalities interacting.
16th Dec '16 2:32:53 PM Unicorndance
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* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'': The episode "Hatchery" involves Archer stumbling upon a nest of Xindi eggs and trying to help them. Nobody else wants to help and at first, it's because they're [[FantasticRacism prejudiced]] against Xindi, but then it turn's into because he's neglecting his work...and then T'Pol and Malcolm try to take over the ship...and then it's revealed that [[spoiler: Archer only wanted to help the Xindi eggs because he was affected by some sap that made him think he was their dad.]] So is the Aesop....''Do'' be prejudiced against aliens? No, that's not like Star Trek. Helping baby animals makes you and everyone else go crazy? We only help animals because we think we're their parents? Who knows.


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* ''WesternAnimation/HelloKitty'': The episode "Replying Properly" begins with a rather obvious Aesop about "always answer when someone calls your name", but then it turns into "slang is bad" (i.e. Mama Cat saying "shouldn't you say 'yes' instead of 'uh-huh'?"), which escalates when a monster appears who gets bigger when he hears 'yeah, what?', but smaller when he hears 'yes'. Then, they all play hide-and-seek and Kitty answers upon being called, giving herself away, so...don't call someone's name when they're playing hide-and-seek.
16th Dec '16 1:58:46 PM Unicorndance
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This is when the audience is clearly presented with a lesson, only to have that moral contradicted, then reinstated, then forgotten about, then addressed, then ignored... you get the picture. It gets so messy that it's no longer clear exactly ''which'' Aesop has been broken and which one did the breaking. At some point, certain viewers or readers will begin to have doubts about whether the writer knew what they were doing.

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This is when the audience is clearly presented with a lesson, only to have that moral contradicted, [[BrokenAesop contradicted]], then reinstated, [[ReconstructedTrope reinstated]], then [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse forgotten about, about]], then addressed, then ignored... you get the picture. It gets so messy that it's no longer clear exactly ''which'' Aesop has been broken and which one did the breaking. At some point, certain viewers or readers will begin to have doubts about whether the writer knew what they were doing.
30th Oct '16 4:38:25 PM nombretomado
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* In the episode ''Invasion from Below'' from the ''Franchise/HeroFactory'' animated specials, monsters are attacking the city after a drilling team has disturbed their nest. The Heroes are dispatched to defeat them, but Breez discovers that they only want to be left alone, and convinces her partners to put down the weapons because violence is not a solution. Sure enough, the monsters turn peaceful and return to their nest. [[spoiler:Just then, one of the monsters accidentally steps on a gun, firing it off and making the [[MonsterLord queen beast]] think the Heroes have fooled them. So the Heroes beat them, the queen, the monsters, their eggs and the entire nest fall into acid]], and... celebration, the end.

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* In the episode ''Invasion from Below'' from the ''Franchise/HeroFactory'' ''Toys/HeroFactory'' animated specials, monsters are attacking the city after a drilling team has disturbed their nest. The Heroes are dispatched to defeat them, but Breez discovers that they only want to be left alone, and convinces her partners to put down the weapons because violence is not a solution. Sure enough, the monsters turn peaceful and return to their nest. [[spoiler:Just then, one of the monsters accidentally steps on a gun, firing it off and making the [[MonsterLord queen beast]] think the Heroes have fooled them. So the Heroes beat them, the queen, the monsters, their eggs and the entire nest fall into acid]], and... celebration, the end.
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