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17th Jan '17 11:47:32 AM wrpen99
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*** One possible interpretation of the episode basically states "The third option isn't necessarily the best option, and ''all'' options should be considered with logic instead of blind faith"
7th Jan '17 10:31:50 AM nombretomado
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After people noted the apparent FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that science can't explain everything and therefore you should believe in some paranormal things or something similar, WordOfGod admitted that the aesop had got lost along the way. Then again, the comment by LaurenFaust about what it was really supposed to be about[[note]]There are some things where the evidence is inconclusive, so you have to either remain agnostic or take it on faith one way or another. ...Okay?[[/note]] still sounded like a lost aesop and hardly made the matter much clearer. Perhaps more to the point was her saying that it was supposed to be a funny episode about the characters' personalities interacting.

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After people noted the apparent FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that science can't explain everything and therefore you should believe in some paranormal things or something similar, WordOfGod admitted that the aesop had got lost along the way. Then again, the comment by LaurenFaust Creator/LaurenFaust about what it was really supposed to be about[[note]]There are some things where the evidence is inconclusive, so you have to either remain agnostic or take it on faith one way or another. ...Okay?[[/note]] still sounded like a lost aesop and hardly made the matter much clearer. Perhaps more to the point was her saying that it was supposed to be a funny episode about the characters' personalities interacting.
16th Dec '16 2:32:53 PM Unicorndance
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* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'': The episode "Hatchery" involves Archer stumbling upon a nest of Xindi eggs and trying to help them. Nobody else wants to help and at first, it's because they're [[FantasticRacism prejudiced]] against Xindi, but then it turn's into because he's neglecting his work...and then T'Pol and Malcolm try to take over the ship...and then it's revealed that [[spoiler: Archer only wanted to help the Xindi eggs because he was affected by some sap that made him think he was their dad.]] So is the Aesop....''Do'' be prejudiced against aliens? No, that's not like Star Trek. Helping baby animals makes you and everyone else go crazy? We only help animals because we think we're their parents? Who knows.


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* ''WesternAnimation/HelloKitty'': The episode "Replying Properly" begins with a rather obvious Aesop about "always answer when someone calls your name", but then it turns into "slang is bad" (i.e. Mama Cat saying "shouldn't you say 'yes' instead of 'uh-huh'?"), which escalates when a monster appears who gets bigger when he hears 'yeah, what?', but smaller when he hears 'yes'. Then, they all play hide-and-seek and Kitty answers upon being called, giving herself away, so...don't call someone's name when they're playing hide-and-seek.
16th Dec '16 1:58:46 PM Unicorndance
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This is when the audience is clearly presented with a lesson, only to have that moral contradicted, then reinstated, then forgotten about, then addressed, then ignored... you get the picture. It gets so messy that it's no longer clear exactly ''which'' Aesop has been broken and which one did the breaking. At some point, certain viewers or readers will begin to have doubts about whether the writer knew what they were doing.

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This is when the audience is clearly presented with a lesson, only to have that moral contradicted, [[BrokenAesop contradicted]], then reinstated, [[ReconstructedTrope reinstated]], then [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse forgotten about, about]], then addressed, then ignored... you get the picture. It gets so messy that it's no longer clear exactly ''which'' Aesop has been broken and which one did the breaking. At some point, certain viewers or readers will begin to have doubts about whether the writer knew what they were doing.
30th Oct '16 4:38:25 PM nombretomado
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* In the episode ''Invasion from Below'' from the ''Franchise/HeroFactory'' animated specials, monsters are attacking the city after a drilling team has disturbed their nest. The Heroes are dispatched to defeat them, but Breez discovers that they only want to be left alone, and convinces her partners to put down the weapons because violence is not a solution. Sure enough, the monsters turn peaceful and return to their nest. [[spoiler:Just then, one of the monsters accidentally steps on a gun, firing it off and making the [[MonsterLord queen beast]] think the Heroes have fooled them. So the Heroes beat them, the queen, the monsters, their eggs and the entire nest fall into acid]], and... celebration, the end.

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* In the episode ''Invasion from Below'' from the ''Franchise/HeroFactory'' ''Toys/HeroFactory'' animated specials, monsters are attacking the city after a drilling team has disturbed their nest. The Heroes are dispatched to defeat them, but Breez discovers that they only want to be left alone, and convinces her partners to put down the weapons because violence is not a solution. Sure enough, the monsters turn peaceful and return to their nest. [[spoiler:Just then, one of the monsters accidentally steps on a gun, firing it off and making the [[MonsterLord queen beast]] think the Heroes have fooled them. So the Heroes beat them, the queen, the monsters, their eggs and the entire nest fall into acid]], and... celebration, the end.
27th Oct '16 7:09:44 AM HighCrate
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*** The real lesson of this episode? The reason you well-behaved kids with all your moral qualms [[CheatersNeverProsper never prosper when you cheat]] is because [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids you're too young and too idealistic]]. [[DoWrongRight Here, let the grown-ups show you how it's done!]]
*** Plausible deniability. Lisa keeps her ideals, and the school gets cash. Take that, Cynics.
27th Oct '16 6:59:10 AM onetimo
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***Plausible deniability. Lisa keeps her ideals, and the school gets cash. Take that, Cynics.
21st Oct '16 5:59:53 PM gophergiggles
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** "One Bad Apple" is so clumsy with it's intended messages of "standing up to a bully makes you a bully as well" and "telling an adult is the solution to being bullied" that it makes one wonder if some of the cast or crew [[SpoofAesop secretly disagreed with them]]. In the climax of the episode, almost ''immediately'' after the Crusader's epiphany that they should have told an adult, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon pop up and begin bullying them right in front of Applejack who [[AdultsAreUseless does nothing other than frown]], effectively negating aesop number one. Then Babs Seed gets in their faces and intimidates them into leaping back in fear and landing in the mud, [[BrokenAesop effectively solving the current bullying issue by standing up to them]] and negating aesop number two.
8th Oct '16 5:37:55 PM DustSnitch
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* ''[[Creator/ThisIsIt Don't Hug Me I'm Scared 3]]'' parodies this with a fake parable, that's supposedly about how everyone has a special person to love. However...

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* ''[[Creator/ThisIsIt "[[WebVideo/DontHugMeImScared Don't Hug Me I'm Scared 3]]'' 3]]" parodies this with a fake parable, that's supposedly about how everyone has a special person to love. However...
23rd Sep '16 12:49:08 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'': not any individual entry in the series but the franchise as a whole jumps between ScrewDestiny and YouCantFightFate with regard to whether or not the heroes can stop Skynet from being built and initiating [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Judgment Day]] in which it kills off most of the human race. The [[Film/TheTerminator first film]] has Skynet create a StableTimeLoop when Cyberdine uses a recovered piece of the Terminator it sent back [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast to build what will become Skynet]]. The [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay second]] film [[ScrewDestiny cancels this out]], as the heroes have become GenreSavvy about the StableTimeLoop and do everything they can to destroy all Terminator/Skynet technology that could be used to build Skynet. The 3rd film [[note]]and the beginning of the post-Cameron canon that was intended to end with ''Terminator 2''[[/note]] has Skynet activate and start Judgement Day later than originally fated but [[YouCantFightFate the message is it will still happen nonetheless]]. ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' fleshes it out even further, showing Skynet using TimeTravel to [[TrickedOutTime help create itself in the present day]] and sowing the seeds for Judgment Day to ensure that no matter how many alternate realities/futures are created by the heroes changing things in the present, Skynet is still the BigBad.

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* ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'': not any individual entry in the series but the franchise as a whole jumps between ScrewDestiny and YouCantFightFate with regard to whether or not the heroes can stop Skynet from being built and initiating [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Judgment Day]] in which it kills off most of the human race. The [[Film/TheTerminator first film]] has Skynet create a StableTimeLoop when Cyberdine uses a recovered piece of the Terminator it sent back [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast to build what will become Skynet]]. The [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay second]] film [[ScrewDestiny cancels this out]], as the heroes have become GenreSavvy wise about the StableTimeLoop and do everything they can to destroy all Terminator/Skynet technology that could be used to build Skynet. The 3rd film [[note]]and the beginning of the post-Cameron canon that was intended to end with ''Terminator 2''[[/note]] has Skynet activate and start Judgement Day later than originally fated but [[YouCantFightFate the message is it will still happen nonetheless]]. ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' fleshes it out even further, showing Skynet using TimeTravel to [[TrickedOutTime help create itself in the present day]] and sowing the seeds for Judgment Day to ensure that no matter how many alternate realities/futures are created by the heroes changing things in the present, Skynet is still the BigBad.
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