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ACarlssin
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11:39:16 AM Dec 26th 2013
Removed this:

...because it appears to be a Broken Aesop rather than a Lost Aesop.
CaptainCrawdad
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01:07:03 AM Jul 18th 2012
Removed:

  • The Invention of Lying: A world without lying is a sad place where everyone everyone is bluntly cruel and shallow. In a world with lying, however, religion becomes the opiate of the masses, tricking people into feeling good about life, but it's all a sham. So are religion and lying good or bad for us?

The film is all about how lies comfort us, and that religion is the ultimate extension of that concept.
Tekrelious
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06:51:49 PM Nov 17th 2011
I don't know how to put into words what I'm thinking about Chobits message or if I'm answering the question or just delving off into pointless drivel. So I'll post here, someone better than me can put it into words.

Part of the problem in the lost aesop is the discrepancy between the manga and anime. Where the manga points out that Chii is nothing more than a computer running a program and asks if Hideki can love her anyway. Taken along with Shinbo's speech to Hideki that the problem Miss Shimizu faced was that her husband wasn't devoted to HER and it didn't matter whether he was addicted to Persocoms or ... I dunno, John Deere Tractors, it was the same. Nor did it matter whether Miss Shimizu was human or a persocom she deserved his attention. The aesop then becomes 'don't be a dick to your wife/robot girlfriend.'

I think that was lost in the anime version where both Chii's question to Hideki whether he can love a computer simply responding to her programming and Shinbo's speech to Hideki were cut which leads us to a lost aesop.
SomeSortOfTroper
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05:53:35 AM May 28th 2010
Removed examples that dealt with a consistency of portrayal across episodes. These fail in several ways.

  • The actual individual Aesop of each episode is normally very clear and avoids the writing mistakes that would actually make up a Lost Aesop.
  • If you actually took two episodes with conflicting messages and stuck them together to make one episode with two conflicting morals then that would actually be Broken Aesop.
  • The point of Aesop being named after Aesop's Fables is that it is the simple short moral at the end of a singular short tale. The overarching theme or message of a large body of work or series of installments is not An Aesop.
  • Some were from series which no continuity across their episodes (Family Guy, The Simpsons). Trying to take any sort of message from across the entire series is pointless.

So there you have it. You should not confuse LostAesops with BrokenAesops nor confuse overarching themes with An Aesop nor expect an overarching theme when there isn't one.
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