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23rd Jan '18 3:50:41 PM Gene0129
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{{Anti Hero}}es generally fall under DarkIsNotEvil rather than this Trope unless they're a KnightTemplar, for instance a ruthless ChurchMilitant who works with the good guys. Light Is Not Good is when a character is [[{{Villain}} directly bad, directly villainous]] -- and ''still'' has Light powers. Depending on characterization, [[AntiVillain they might be sympathetic]], perhaps [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned but horribly misguided]]. Or the person could be the most gleefully twisted bastard imaginable.

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{{Anti Hero}}es generally fall under DarkIsNotEvil rather than this Trope unless they're a KnightTemplar, for instance a ruthless ChurchMilitant who works with the good guys. Light Is Not Good is when a character is [[{{Villain}} directly bad, directly villainous]] -- and ''still'' has Light powers. Depending on characterization, [[AntiVillain they might be sympathetic]], perhaps [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned but horribly misguided]]. [[AxCrazy Or the person could be the most most]] [[OmnicidalManiac gleefully twisted bastard imaginable.
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2nd Jan '18 5:49:04 AM Dragon573
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This trope is ''not'' a ObviouslyEvil character such as a BedsheetGhost wearing white. To qualify a character must fit into two types:

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This trope is ''not'' a an ObviouslyEvil character such as a BedsheetGhost wearing white. To qualify a character must fit into two types:
7th Dec '17 8:49:52 AM WaterBlap
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[[LightIsGood The Light seems like a good, kindly thing]], especially compared with [[DarkIsEvil that bad old Darkness]]. Whereas Darkness is usually concerned with [[KickTheDog kicking puppies]], [[EatsBabies eating children]], and [[EvilLaugh laughing its head off]], the forces of Light generally worry about nicer things, like [[FriendToAllLivingThings singing with the birds]], [[PetTheDog helping little old ladies cross the street]], and... well, you know, being a [[IdealHero Hero]]. Whereas [[EvilIsSexy the Dark is sexy and alluring]] and [[SensibleHeroesSkimpyVillains tends to dress that way]], the Light ([[BeautyEqualsGoodness while often quite attractive in its own way]]) tends to be a bit more conservative when it comes to clothing. Women serving the Light tend to really appreciate this, considering what [[{{Stripperiffic}} the Darkness usually makes its women wear]]. Whereas [[OrderVersusChaos the Darkness seems to revel in lawlessness and chaos, the Light tends to prefer law and order]], providing for properly maintained roads, a court system, and safe cities. And [[TrainsRunOnTime trains that run on time]].

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[[LightIsGood The Light seems like a good, kindly thing]], especially compared with [[DarkIsEvil that bad old Darkness]]. Whereas Darkness is usually concerned with [[KickTheDog kicking puppies]], [[EatsBabies eating children]], and [[EvilLaugh laughing its head off]], the forces of Light generally worry about nicer things, like [[FriendToAllLivingThings singing with the birds]], [[PetTheDog helping little old ladies cross the street]], and... well, you know, being a [[IdealHero Hero]]. Whereas [[EvilIsSexy the Dark is sexy and alluring]] and [[SensibleHeroesSkimpyVillains tends to dress that way]], the Light ([[BeautyEqualsGoodness while often quite attractive in its own way]]) tends to be a bit more conservative when it comes to clothing. Women serving the Light tend to really appreciate this, considering what [[{{Stripperiffic}} the Darkness usually makes its women wear]]. Whereas [[OrderVersusChaos the Darkness seems to revel in lawlessness and chaos, the Light tends to prefer law and order]], providing for properly maintained roads, a court system, and safe cities. And [[TrainsRunOnTime trains that run on time]].
cities.
26th Nov '17 8:09:56 AM WaterBlap
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[[LightIsGood The Light seems like a good, kindly thing]], especially compared with [[DarkIsEvil that bad old Darkness]]. Whereas Darkness is usually concerned with [[KickTheDog kicking puppies]], [[EatsBabies eating children]], and [[EvilLaugh laughing its head off]], the forces of Light generally worry about nicer things, like [[FriendToAllLivingThings singing with the birds]], [[PetTheDog helping little old ladies cross the street]], and... well, you know, being a [[IdealHero Hero]]. Whereas [[EvilIsSexy the Dark is sexy and alluring]] and [[SensibleHeroesSkimpyVillains tends to dress that way]], the Light ([[BeautyEqualsGoodness while often quite attractive in its own way]]) tends to be a bit more conservative when it comes to clothing. Women serving the Light tend to really appreciate this, considering what [[{{Stripperiffic}} the Darkness usually makes its women wear]] (though the color of Light's wardrobe is more ideal for wet T-shirt contests). Whereas [[OrderVersusChaos the Darkness seems to revel in lawlessness and chaos, the Light tends to prefer law and order]], providing for properly maintained roads, a court system, and safe cities. And [[TrainsRunOnTime trains that run on time]].

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[[LightIsGood The Light seems like a good, kindly thing]], especially compared with [[DarkIsEvil that bad old Darkness]]. Whereas Darkness is usually concerned with [[KickTheDog kicking puppies]], [[EatsBabies eating children]], and [[EvilLaugh laughing its head off]], the forces of Light generally worry about nicer things, like [[FriendToAllLivingThings singing with the birds]], [[PetTheDog helping little old ladies cross the street]], and... well, you know, being a [[IdealHero Hero]]. Whereas [[EvilIsSexy the Dark is sexy and alluring]] and [[SensibleHeroesSkimpyVillains tends to dress that way]], the Light ([[BeautyEqualsGoodness while often quite attractive in its own way]]) tends to be a bit more conservative when it comes to clothing. Women serving the Light tend to really appreciate this, considering what [[{{Stripperiffic}} the Darkness usually makes its women wear]] (though the color of Light's wardrobe is more ideal for wet T-shirt contests).wear]]. Whereas [[OrderVersusChaos the Darkness seems to revel in lawlessness and chaos, the Light tends to prefer law and order]], providing for properly maintained roads, a court system, and safe cities. And [[TrainsRunOnTime trains that run on time]].
25th Nov '17 10:49:11 PM Crossover-Enthusiast
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22nd Nov '17 3:48:43 AM memememememe
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But in one of those instances where you should BewareTheNiceOnes, the Light isn't always what it appears to be. Sometimes, a battle with an obviously Light-wielding character will not result in [[DefeatMeansFriendship Defeat Meaning Friendship]] or an EpiphanyTherapy, but will just end with a laser-scorched corpse and the shiny happy killer skipping off to continue using their [[GoodPowersBadPeople sunshine-fueled powers]] to wreak decidedly '''un'''holy havoc. There is a reason why the word "Light Bringer," in [[AltumVidetur Latin]], literally means ''[[Satan|Lucifer]]''.

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But in one of those instances where you should BewareTheNiceOnes, the Light isn't always what it appears to be. Sometimes, a battle with an obviously Light-wielding character will not result in [[DefeatMeansFriendship Defeat Meaning Friendship]] or an EpiphanyTherapy, but will just end with a laser-scorched corpse and the shiny happy killer skipping off to continue using their [[GoodPowersBadPeople sunshine-fueled powers]] to wreak decidedly '''un'''holy havoc. There is a reason why the word "Light Bringer," in [[AltumVidetur Latin]], literally means ''[[Satan|Lucifer]]''.
''[[{{Satan}} Lucifer]]''.
22nd Nov '17 3:48:21 AM memememememe
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But in one of those instances where you should BewareTheNiceOnes, the Light isn't always what it appears to be. Sometimes, a battle with an obviously Light-wielding character will not result in [[DefeatMeansFriendship Defeat Meaning Friendship]] or an EpiphanyTherapy, but will just end with a laser-scorched corpse and the shiny happy killer skipping off to continue using their [[GoodPowersBadPeople sunshine-fueled powers]] to wreak decidedly '''un'''holy havoc.

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But in one of those instances where you should BewareTheNiceOnes, the Light isn't always what it appears to be. Sometimes, a battle with an obviously Light-wielding character will not result in [[DefeatMeansFriendship Defeat Meaning Friendship]] or an EpiphanyTherapy, but will just end with a laser-scorched corpse and the shiny happy killer skipping off to continue using their [[GoodPowersBadPeople sunshine-fueled powers]] to wreak decidedly '''un'''holy havoc.
havoc. There is a reason why the word "Light Bringer," in [[AltumVidetur Latin]], literally means ''[[Satan|Lucifer]]''.
14th Nov '17 7:10:34 PM ectostar
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But in one of those instances where you should BewareTheNiceOnes, the Light isn't always what it appears to be. Sometimes, a battle with an obviously Light-wielding character will not result in [[DefeatMeansFriendship Defeat Meaning Friendship]] or an EpiphanyTherapy, but will just end with a laser-scorched corpse and the shiny happy killer skipping off to continue using his [[GoodPowersBadPeople sunshine-fueled powers]] to wreak decidedly '''un'''holy havoc.

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But in one of those instances where you should BewareTheNiceOnes, the Light isn't always what it appears to be. Sometimes, a battle with an obviously Light-wielding character will not result in [[DefeatMeansFriendship Defeat Meaning Friendship]] or an EpiphanyTherapy, but will just end with a laser-scorched corpse and the shiny happy killer skipping off to continue using his their [[GoodPowersBadPeople sunshine-fueled powers]] to wreak decidedly '''un'''holy havoc.



This Trope is an [[InvertedTrope inversion]] of the standard that "[[LightIsGood Light = Good]]". Like with DarkIsNotEvil, Light Is Not Good can {{subvert|edTrope}} or {{avert|edTrope}} a number of other Tropes depending on how it comes into play -- usually BeautyEqualsGoodness and GoodColorsEvilColors, among others.

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This Trope is an [[InvertedTrope inversion]] {{inver|tedTrope}}sion of the standard that "[[LightIsGood Light = Good]]". Like with DarkIsNotEvil, Light Is Not Good can {{subvert|edTrope}} or {{avert|edTrope}} a number of other Tropes depending on how it comes into play -- usually BeautyEqualsGoodness and GoodColorsEvilColors, among others.



The mildest form of this Trope involves beautiful, charismatic villains dressed in white and surrounded by religious symbols. A step further features a villain who wields [[LightEmUp Light as an elemental power]]. Whether by technology or [[FunctionalMagic magic]], he can bend physical light to his whims, displaying such powers as [[BishieSparkle beauty-enhancing sparkles]] or an angelic glow, [[MasterOfIllusion optical illusions and holograms]], MindControl through LaserGuidedAmnesia, [[BlindedByTheLight blinding flashes]], and [[FrickinLaserBeams laser beams]]. For artistic contrast and further deconstruction, he might be opposed by a hero who uses [[CastingAShadow shadows and darkness]] as ElementalPowers.

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The mildest form of this Trope involves beautiful, charismatic villains dressed in white and surrounded by religious symbols. A step further features a villain who wields [[LightEmUp Light as an elemental power]]. Whether by technology or [[FunctionalMagic magic]], he they can bend physical light to his their whims, displaying such powers as [[BishieSparkle beauty-enhancing sparkles]] or an angelic glow, [[MasterOfIllusion optical illusions and holograms]], MindControl through LaserGuidedAmnesia, [[BlindedByTheLight blinding flashes]], and [[FrickinLaserBeams laser beams]]. For artistic contrast and further deconstruction, he they might be opposed by a hero who uses [[CastingAShadow shadows and darkness]] as ElementalPowers.



Keep in mind that stories where Light Is Not Good does not automatically enforce DarkIsNotEvil. In Fact, stories where DarkIsEvil and Light Is Not Good are commonplace to show that the light can be just as foul as darkness. In addition, some stories may use BOTH LightIsNotGood and LightIsGood at the same time, with good light based characters calling the evil ones {{Hypocrites}}

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Keep in mind that stories where Light Is Not Good does not automatically enforce DarkIsNotEvil. In Fact, stories where DarkIsEvil and Light Is Not Good are commonplace to show that the light can be just as foul as darkness. In addition, some stories may use BOTH LightIsNotGood and LightIsGood at the same time, with good light based characters calling the evil ones {{Hypocrites}}
{{Hypocrites}}.
16th Sep '17 4:39:15 AM Gorank
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Light and Dark are both [[LowestCosmicDenominator oversimplified metaphors]] for Good and Evil, not truly synonymous terms. Looking at the matter rationally, too much sunlight causes burns, sunstroke, skin cancer, and drought, which is bad; whereas nightfall and sufficient shade provide relief and rest, which is good. So, neither [[ElementalRockPaperScissors physical brightness nor physical shade]] can be all good or all bad. [[ElementalPowers Elements]] are properly value-neutral. [[note]] It should be noted however that there's no reason to think Humans equate light with good and dark with bad for any reason other than ''nature instilling it in us since we cannot see in the dark.''[[/note]]

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Light and Dark are both [[LowestCosmicDenominator oversimplified metaphors]] for Good and Evil, not truly synonymous terms. Looking at the matter rationally, too much sunlight causes burns, sunstroke, skin cancer, and drought, which is bad; whereas nightfall and sufficient shade provide relief and rest, which is good. So, neither [[ElementalRockPaperScissors physical brightness nor physical shade]] can be all good or all bad. [[ElementalPowers Elements]] are properly value-neutral. [[note]] It [[note]]It should be noted however that there's no reason to think Humans equate light with good and dark with bad for any reason other than ''nature instilling it in us since we cannot see in the dark.''[[/note]]
10th Apr '17 4:46:25 AM ChrisX
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Its counterpart in the whole OrderVsChaos scheme is OrderIsNotGood.
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