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9th May '16 10:43:56 AM thatmadork
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* The WildCard ending to ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' has The Courier create an independent New Vegas free of the machinations of Mr House, the NCR and the Legion, for the reason that the people of the Mojave deserve to govern themselves without any outside interference.
** The final mission and achievement for this is literally titled "''No Gods, No Masters''".

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* The WildCard ending to ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' has The Courier create an independent New Vegas free of the machinations of Mr House, the NCR and the Legion, for the reason that the people of the Mojave deserve to govern themselves without any outside interference.
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interference. The final mission and achievement for this is literally titled "''No Gods, No Masters''".Masters''".
* Done again in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' should you [[spoiler:side with the Minutemen and help them destroy the Institute. The Institute's technological marvels in the fields of robotics and bioscience are LostForever, but at least the Commonwealth is still in the hands of the wastelanders who live in it, rather than the testing ground for the amok experiments of a handful of shady scientist types.]]
20th Apr '16 4:49:13 AM Morgenthaler
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->''I've seen the future, you know what it is!? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener"! You live up top, you live Cocteau's way: what he wants, when he wants, how he wants! The alternative? Come down here]], maybe starve to death.''

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->''I've seen the future, you know what it is!? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener"! You live up top, you live Cocteau's way: what he wants, when he wants, how he wants! The alternative? Come down here]], here, maybe starve to death.''
20th Apr '16 4:46:17 AM Morgenthaler
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->''I've seen the future, you know what it is!? It's a [[NoSexAllowed 47-year-old virgin]] sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking [[{{Veganopia}} a banana-broccoli shake]], singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener"! You live up top, you live [[BigBad Cocteau]]'s way: [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill what he wants, when he wants, how he wants]]! The alternative? Come [[AbsurdlySpaciousSewer down here]], [[SadisticChoice maybe starve to death]].''
-->-- '''[[RebelLeader Edgar]] [[BadassLongcoat Friendly]]''', ''Film/DemolitionMan''

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->''I've seen the future, you know what it is!? It's a [[NoSexAllowed 47-year-old virgin]] virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking [[{{Veganopia}} a banana-broccoli shake]], shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener"! You live up top, you live [[BigBad Cocteau]]'s Cocteau's way: [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill what he wants, when he wants, how he wants]]! wants! The alternative? Come [[AbsurdlySpaciousSewer down here]], [[SadisticChoice maybe starve to death]].death.''
-->-- '''[[RebelLeader Edgar]] [[BadassLongcoat Friendly]]''', '''Edgar Friendly''', ''Film/DemolitionMan''
8th Mar '16 4:15:09 AM thatmadork
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->"''Here at least we shall be free; the Almighty hath not built here for his envy, will not drive us hence: Here we may reign secure, and in my choice to reign is worth ambition, though in Hell'': '''''Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven'''''."
-->-- '''{{Satan}}''', ''Literature/ParadiseLost''

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->"''Here at least we shall be free; ->''I've seen the Almighty hath not built here for future, you know what it is!? It's a [[NoSexAllowed 47-year-old virgin]] sitting around in his envy, will not drive us hence: Here we may reign secure, and in my choice beige pajamas, drinking [[{{Veganopia}} a banana-broccoli shake]], singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener"! You live up top, you live [[BigBad Cocteau]]'s way: [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill what he wants, when he wants, how he wants]]! The alternative? Come [[AbsurdlySpaciousSewer down here]], [[SadisticChoice maybe starve to reign is worth ambition, though in Hell'': '''''Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven'''''."
death]].''
-->-- '''{{Satan}}''', ''Literature/ParadiseLost''
'''[[RebelLeader Edgar]] [[BadassLongcoat Friendly]]''', ''Film/DemolitionMan''
24th Jan '16 6:38:42 PM nombretomado
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* In ''SupermanRedSon'', the Global Soviet Union rules over the whole world, save the DividedStatesOfAmerica. Despite people all over the world living in a socialist utopia, the Americans remain independent, living in a war-torn country, to avoid being ruled over by BigBrother Superman.

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* In ''SupermanRedSon'', ''ComicBook/SupermanRedSon'', the Global Soviet Union rules over the whole world, save the DividedStatesOfAmerica. Despite people all over the world living in a socialist utopia, the Americans remain independent, living in a war-torn country, to avoid being ruled over by BigBrother Superman.
6th Jan '16 6:38:31 PM DoctorCooper
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'''Please note: This is for fictional cases where it is clear that the people are choosing freedom over comfort (or at least ''believe'' they are doing so) - this is not a place to vent about political opinions, so Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease.'''

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'''Please note: This is for fictional cases where it is clear that the people are choosing freedom over comfort (or at least ''believe'' they are doing so) - this is not a place to vent about political opinions, so Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease.'''''' [[noreallife]]
22nd Oct '15 11:59:47 PM M84
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* This is the main point of ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed''. Both the Templars and the Assassins want peace and prosperity for all mankind. It's just that the Templars think peace can only be achieved by enslaving everyone, whilst the Assassins think that it can only be gained, or is best gained, when we are free to pursue it, even if that means great pain.

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* This is the main point of ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed''. Both the Templars and the Assassins want peace and prosperity for all mankind. It's just that the Templars think peace can only be achieved by enslaving everyone, whilst the Assassins think that it can only be gained, or is best gained, when we are free to pursue it, even if that means great pain. The fact that both groups ultimately want the same thing hasn't gone unnoticed by some people on both sides -- attempts were made in the past to end the conflict peacefully so they could work together to make a better world but they always failed.
2nd Oct '15 9:40:28 PM nombretomado
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-->-- '''{{Satan}}''', ''ParadiseLost''

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-->-- '''{{Satan}}''', ''ParadiseLost''
''Literature/ParadiseLost''



* ''ASongOfIceAndFire'': This is how the wildlings or [[InsistentTerminology "free folk"]] (the two names speak volumes about what the two cultures think of each other) view themselves, preferring to live in a very harsh, cold, and sometimes giant-infested land outside the boundaries of the realm, than to be "kneelers".
* ''ParadiseLost'': Satan would rather reign in {{Hell}}, than serve in {{Heaven}}, and his minions go right along with him. They are all in a literal SelfInflictedHell, and can go back to Heaven at any time they wish, yet are staunchly determined to remain "free".

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* ''ASongOfIceAndFire'': ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': This is how the wildlings or [[InsistentTerminology "free folk"]] (the two names speak volumes about what the two cultures think of each other) view themselves, preferring to live in a very harsh, cold, and sometimes giant-infested land outside the boundaries of the realm, than to be "kneelers".
* ''ParadiseLost'': ''Literature/ParadiseLost'': Satan would rather reign in {{Hell}}, than serve in {{Heaven}}, and his minions go right along with him. They are all in a literal SelfInflictedHell, and can go back to Heaven at any time they wish, yet are staunchly determined to remain "free".
13th Sep '15 4:53:14 PM CyberTiger88
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* This is one reason why Red in ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' doesn't get along with White. Red prioritizes freedom and passion while White focuses on order and peace to the exclusion of all else. In broader terms, their conflict boils down to OrderVsChaos.
28th Jun '15 9:59:48 AM tesseract732
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The exact nature of the freedom to be sacrificed varies. At one extreme, a character may object to being herded into a BreadAndCircuses Dystopia, where surveillance is omnipresent and everything, even jobs and marriages, are arranged by the state; at the other extreme, a character may object to the imposition of a justice system, and so giving up the freedom to extract a private {{Revenge}} for slights, however trivial, or the justice system treating memebers of other groups as if they were equal to their own, and had rights. And all between.

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The exact nature of the freedom to be sacrificed varies. At one extreme, a character may object to being herded into a BreadAndCircuses Dystopia, where surveillance is omnipresent and everything, even jobs and marriages, are arranged by the state; at the other extreme, a character may object to the imposition of a justice system, and so giving up the freedom to extract a private {{Revenge}} for slights, however trivial, or the justice system treating memebers members of other groups as if they were equal to their own, and had rights. And all between.
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