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22nd Mar '17 12:40:11 AM pcw2727
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** Replicators, however, take the cake. This race of sentient lego bricks which form into spiders and endlessly build more of themselves were a threat so advanced even the Asgard, a race that could pimp smack the Goa'uld, have to devote most of their resources to fighting them. At first it is mankind's more primitive way of thinking that allows us to stand toe to toe with this menace. Since their replicator blocks are based on "kiron" pathways, an energy particle humans had not even discovered, [=SG1=] decided the best response to a replicator threat was [[KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter flying chunks of metal]]. This seems to work until the Asgard decide to screw it up by trapping the replicators in a time dilation field. Their stupidly brilliant plan backfires when the replicators are able to reverse the time dilation device just before it activates and advance thousands of years, creating new humanoid replicators (made up of nanobots instead of cells) that are immune to shotgun blasts! Not to worry though, because thanks to [=SG1=] the device was reset properly, freezing the replicators in time just long enough for humanity to learn how to make a weapon that destroys kiron pathways.

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** Replicators, however, take the cake. This race of sentient lego bricks which form into spiders and endlessly build more of themselves were a threat so advanced even the Asgard, a race that could pimp smack the Goa'uld, have to devote most of their resources to fighting them. At first it is mankind's more primitive way of thinking that allows us to stand toe to toe with this menace. Since their replicator blocks are based on "kiron" pathways, an energy particle humans had not even discovered, [=SG1=] decided the best response to a replicator threat was [[KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter flying chunks of metal]]. This seems to work until the Asgard decide to screw it up by trapping the replicators in a time dilation field. Their stupidly brilliant plan backfires when the replicators are able to reverse the time dilation device just before it activates and advance thousands of years, creating new humanoid replicators (made up of nanobots instead of cells) that are immune to shotgun blasts! Not to worry though, because thanks to [=SG1=] the device was reset properly, freezing the replicators in time just long enough for humanity to learn how to make a weapon that destroys kiron pathways. They first build a single kiron disruptor cannon, but later combine this device with Ancient technology to simultaneously wipe out all the Replicators in the Galaxy.
** At this point the Goa'uld are all but destroyed and no longer a threat to Earth so a new villain is introduced, the Ori. Whereas the Goa'uld were aliens posing as gods the Ori basically are gods. They're immortal incorporeal beings with vast power that grows from people worshiping them. In their final bout of Lensman style ingenuity SG-1 defeat the Ori with a device that "neutralizes" them. They later have to strip the last surviving Ori of its power with an ancient brainwashing device and an arsenal of Asgard technology.
28th Feb '17 5:54:45 PM ErikModi
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** And that's not even getting into all the various plans, ranging from the [[BoringButPractical plausible]] to the CrazyEnoughToWork to the AwesomeButImpractical to the [[StupidJetpackHitler completely ludicrous]] and back again that never even made it off the drawing boards.
17th Feb '17 11:47:41 AM Jhonny
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** The naval arms race actually runs back much farther. During the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, the first battle of the [[CoolBoat "ironclads"]] between the ''USS Monitor'' and the ''CSS Virginia'' sparked this around the world, as one European newspaper after battle noted that entire wooden Navies of countries around the world had just become "obsolete", and there was a huge movement to copy and improve these "ironclad" ships around the world, making more of them, and making them bigger, faster and better. By World War I, there were still ships using ''CSS Virginia'' style rams.

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** The naval arms race actually runs back much farther. During the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, the first battle of the [[CoolBoat "ironclads"]] between the ''USS Monitor'' and the ''CSS Virginia'' sparked this around the world, world; as one European newspaper after the battle noted that noted: entire wooden Navies of countries around the world had just become "obsolete", and there was a huge movement scramble to copy and improve these "ironclad" ships around the world, making more of them, and making them bigger, faster and better. By World War I, there were still ships using ''CSS Virginia'' style rams.
17th Feb '17 1:42:14 AM JBsteeple
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** The naval arms race actually runs back much farther. During the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, the first battle of the [[CoolBoat "ironclads"]] between the ''USS Monitor'' and the ''CSS Virginia'' sparked this around the world, as one European newspaper after battle noted that entire wooden Navies of countries around the world had just become "obsolete", and there was a huge movement to copy and improve these "ironclad" ships around the world, making more of them, and making them bigger, faster and better. By World War I, there were still ships using ''CSS Virginia'' style rams.
8th Jan '17 1:29:10 PM nombretomado
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* This is a major plot point in ''TheUltimates'', crossed with GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke. After the public debut of the Ultimates, various foreign nations begin trying put together their own teams of superhumans, such as ComicBook/AlphaFlight and the Liberators. The final arc by Creator/MarkMillar has the Ultimates racing to stop military dictatorships like North Korea from developing their own superhumans.

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* This is a major plot point in ''TheUltimates'', ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'', crossed with GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke. After the public debut of the Ultimates, various foreign nations begin trying put together their own teams of superhumans, such as ComicBook/AlphaFlight and the Liberators. The final arc by Creator/MarkMillar has the Ultimates racing to stop military dictatorships like North Korea from developing their own superhumans.
27th Dec '16 2:48:33 PM ShorinBJ
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** We got off easy then. They could've [[Film/StarTrek blown up Vulcan too]].
19th Dec '16 7:19:22 PM WillKeaton
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* A variation of this occurs towards the end of ''VideoGame/TIEFighter''. The Empire has just built the more durable TIE Defender to deal with Rebel starfighters. Then Grand Admiral Zaarin steals a few dozen TIE Defenders and stages a coup. Thus the Empire is, from a certain point of view, in an arms race with itself. They counter the TIE Defender with the Missile Boat, a starfighter loaded with as many warheads as it can carry.
19th Dec '16 6:57:10 PM WillKeaton
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* In Creator/AlanDeanFoster's ''Literature/HumanxCommonwealth'' universe, this occurred between two [[{{Precursors}} Precursor]] races in the series' BackStory. The Tar-Aiym were individually powerful, warlike, and technologically advanced; while the Hur'rikku were prolific and persistent. Panicked by the Hur'rikku threat to use their planet-destroying anticollapsar weapon on Tar-Aiym worlds, the latter embarked on a hurried program of weapons development. The program eventually led to the release of a "photonic storm", a plague that travelled from world to world, wiping out all life forms more complex than single-celled organisms over a vast region of the galaxy, including the Tar-Aiym and Hur'rikku themselves. 500,000 years later, this region becomes known to the expanding Commonwealth as the Blight.\\\
It later turns out that the Tar-Aiym constructed, but never used, an entire artificial planetoid constructed entirely out of Krangs, a single one of which is enough to destroy a fleet and the combined might of all of them is sufficient to rip a hole across spacetime that can destroy entire star systems. And when that weapon [[TheWorfBarrage proves ineffective]] against the [[UltimateEvil Great Evil]], TheHero Flinx has to go looking for an even bigger one built by an even older race.

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* In Creator/AlanDeanFoster's ''Literature/HumanxCommonwealth'' universe, this occurred between two [[{{Precursors}} Precursor]] races in the series' BackStory. The Tar-Aiym were individually powerful, warlike, and technologically advanced; while the Hur'rikku were prolific and persistent. Panicked by the Hur'rikku threat to use their planet-destroying anticollapsar weapon on Tar-Aiym worlds, the latter embarked on a hurried program of weapons development. The program eventually led to the release of a "photonic storm", a plague that travelled from world to world, wiping out all life forms more complex than single-celled organisms over a vast region of the galaxy, including the Tar-Aiym and Hur'rikku themselves. 500,000 years later, this region becomes known to the expanding Commonwealth as the Blight.\\\
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It later turns out that the Tar-Aiym constructed, but never used, an entire artificial planetoid constructed entirely out of Krangs, a single one of which is enough to destroy a fleet and the combined might of all of them is sufficient to rip a hole across spacetime that can destroy entire star systems. And when that weapon [[TheWorfBarrage proves ineffective]] against the [[UltimateEvil Great Evil]], TheHero Flinx has to go looking for an even bigger one built by an even older race.
19th Dec '16 6:56:12 PM WillKeaton
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* ''VideoGame/StarRuler'': You start without practical lasers or missiles and only the basics for everything else. By lategame you can build {{Ringworld Planet}}s, casually even, go StarKilling through brute force firepower, cause EarthShatteringKaboom with point defence guns, build ClownCar [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rjwZPRnv08 carriers holding thousands of parasite battleships half its size]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJJEMmzKzR4 build ships larger than the galaxy]].

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* ''VideoGame/StarRuler'': You start without practical lasers or missiles and only the basics for everything else. By lategame you can build {{Ringworld Planet}}s, casually even, go StarKilling through brute force firepower, cause EarthShatteringKaboom with point defence guns, build ClownCar [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rjwZPRnv08 carriers holding thousands of parasite battleships half its size]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJJEMmzKzR4 build ships larger than the galaxy]].galaxy.]]
19th Dec '16 6:53:30 PM WillKeaton
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** In less than a decade, the SGC goes from special ops guerrilla tactics, and firing missiles through the stargate, to commanding a fleet of home built interstellar starships. Most of this advancement happens after season 6 or so when Earth's first starship, the ''Prometheus'', is completed and the US starts making squadrons of F302 space fighters.

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** In less than a decade, the SGC goes from special ops guerrilla tactics, and firing missiles through the stargate, to commanding a fleet of home built Earth-built interstellar starships. Most of this advancement happens after season 6 or so when Earth's first starship, the ''Prometheus'', is completed and the US starts making squadrons of F302 F-302 space fighters.
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