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8th Sep '16 11:54:09 AM elfey
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*** though nowhere near as over-the-top as ''Lensman,'' [[note]]Much of the "new" tech is actually existing tech being used in new ways; the realism of this is hotly debated.[[/note]] the series started out as a RecycledInSpace retelling of English and French naval battles of the Napoleonic Wars, and the technology advances mirror actual advances in naval warfare. Smooth-bore cannons to rifled guns (multi-drive missiles). Armor ("bow and stern walls" energy shielding) to aircraft and aircraft carriers ([=LACs=] and [=CLACs=]) to radio (faster-than-light comms) to guided missiles (project Ghost Rider). Submarines are creeping in with [[spoiler:the Mesans' new "stealth" spider drive, and their single-shot laser missile that behaves suspiciously like a homing torpedo.]]

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*** though nowhere near as over-the-top as ''Lensman,'' [[note]]Much of the "new" tech is actually existing tech being used in new ways; the realism of this is hotly debated.[[/note]] the series started out as a RecycledInSpace retelling of English and French naval battles of the Napoleonic Wars, and the technology advances mirror actual advances in naval warfare. Smooth-bore cannons to rifled guns (multi-drive missiles). Armor ("bow and stern walls" energy shielding) to aircraft and aircraft carriers ([=LACs=] and [=CLACs=]) to radio (faster-than-light comms) to guided missiles (project Ghost Rider).Rider) to radar guided gunnery (Apollo). Submarines are creeping in with [[spoiler:the Mesans' new "stealth" spider drive, and their single-shot laser missile that behaves suspiciously like a homing torpedo.]]
13th Aug '16 10:16:38 AM htuttle
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* This also occurs within, and over the course of, the ''{{X-Com}}'' games. The first game starts on New Year's with a group of soldiers, rifles, and rocket launchers. They've got lasers before the end of February. Around April, they're using alien plasma cannons that can burn through almost anything, and wearing armor made out of the hull metals of captured [=UFOs=]. Around the end of the summer, they're wearing PoweredArmor and firing guided missiles that are even more powerful. Around October they can fly, and they ride a ship that can travel to Mars. Around November, at the latest, they're all psychic. The second game features much the same thing, but underwater (it's basically a carbon copy of the first game, so no advancement is expected). Chronologically, we then travel to The Frontier(TM) region of space and by the end of the game, we can travel ''through black holes'' to reach pocket dimensions, and have a bomb that can ''force supernovas from suns''. And then Apocalypse just goes ''nuts''.

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* This also occurs within, and over the course of, the ''{{X-Com}}'' ''[[{{VideoGame/XCOM}} X-COM]]'' games. The [[VideoGame/XCOMUFODefense first game game]] starts on New Year's with a group of soldiers, rifles, and rocket launchers. They've got lasers before the end of February. Around April, they're using alien plasma cannons that can burn through almost anything, and wearing armor made out of the hull metals of captured [=UFOs=]. Around the end of the summer, they're wearing PoweredArmor and firing guided missiles that are even more powerful. Around October they can fly, and they ride a ship that can travel to Mars. Around November, at the latest, they're all psychic. The second game features much the same thing, but underwater (it's basically a carbon copy of the first game, so no advancement is expected). Chronologically, we then travel to The Frontier(TM) region of space and by the end of the game, we can travel ''through black holes'' to reach pocket dimensions, and have a bomb that can ''force supernovas from suns''. And then Apocalypse ''[[VideoGame/XCOMApocalypse Apocalypse]]'' just goes ''nuts''.
5th Aug '16 11:59:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* Summarized and taken to its logical conclusion [[http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2138 on this strip]] from ''SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal''.

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* Summarized and taken to its logical conclusion [[http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2138 on this strip]] from ''SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal''.''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal''.
5th Aug '16 8:22:06 AM Dreadjaws
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** ''Film/SuicideSquad2016'' suggests that this BoxedCrook team would be another factor in trying to ward off Superman in case he turns against the world. Before Superman the knowledge of metahumans was kept to a minimum, but ever since he showed up he's been a "beacon" to pull them out of the shadows.

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** ''Film/SuicideSquad2016'' suggests that this BoxedCrook team would be another factor in trying to ward off Superman in case he turns against the world. Before Superman the knowledge of metahumans was kept to a minimum, but ever since he showed up he's been a "beacon" to pull them out of the shadows. [[spoiler: The actual film is set after the events of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', where Superman dies, so it's revealed that the Suicide Squad was formed to ward off "the next Superman".]]
26th Jul '16 8:37:16 AM Malady
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* Briefly referenced in ''Discworld/SmallGods'', with regard to the Moving Turtle (a steam tank designed by the young philosopher Urn). In the event, though, it doesn't come to that, partly because the Turtle doesn't work ([[spoiler: [[TimePolice Lu-Tze]] can spot something that could change history, and takes steps]]) and partly because [[spoiler: Om forces the other gods stop the war altogether.]]

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* Briefly referenced in ''Discworld/SmallGods'', with regard to the Moving Turtle (a steam tank designed by the young philosopher Urn). In the event, though, it doesn't come to that, partly because the Turtle doesn't work ([[spoiler: [[TimePolice Lu-Tze]] can spot something that could change history, and takes steps]]) and partly because [[spoiler: Om forces the other gods to stop the war altogether.]]
17th Jul '16 10:57:04 AM nombretomado
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* Happening in the ''{{MUGEN}}'' community with "[[UpToEleven Uber]]-[[GameBreaker Cheap]]" characters. We aren't talking about the likes of F1, Omega Tom Hanks, Rare Akuma, Legend Gogeta or A-Bomb here- these guys would die in seconds against an Uber-Cheap. We're talking about things like ChuckNorris (obviously), Oni-Miko-Zero (an edit of [[VideoGame/{{Touhou}} Reimu]] who KILLS the opponent ''before the battle starts''), various modifications of Orochi from ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' series, and other such chars that cause seizure with their flashy, deadly moves. If any of these are defeated, expect their next update to come back with immunity to the move that killed it.

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* Happening in the ''{{MUGEN}}'' ''VideoGame/{{MUGEN}}'' community with "[[UpToEleven Uber]]-[[GameBreaker Cheap]]" characters. We aren't talking about the likes of F1, Omega Tom Hanks, Rare Akuma, Legend Gogeta or A-Bomb here- these guys would die in seconds against an Uber-Cheap. We're talking about things like ChuckNorris Creator/ChuckNorris (obviously), Oni-Miko-Zero (an edit of [[VideoGame/{{Touhou}} Reimu]] who KILLS the opponent ''before the battle starts''), various modifications of Orochi from ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' series, and other such chars that cause seizure with their flashy, deadly moves. If any of these are defeated, expect their next update to come back with immunity to the move that killed it.
10th Jul '16 8:22:29 PM Discar
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** ''Film/SuicideSquad'' suggests that this BoxedCrook team would be another factor in trying to ward off Superman in case he turns against the world. Before Superman the knowledge of metahumans was kept to a minimum, but ever since he showed up he's been a "beacon" to pull them out of the shadows.

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** ''Film/SuicideSquad'' ''Film/SuicideSquad2016'' suggests that this BoxedCrook team would be another factor in trying to ward off Superman in case he turns against the world. Before Superman the knowledge of metahumans was kept to a minimum, but ever since he showed up he's been a "beacon" to pull them out of the shadows.
4th Jul '16 6:26:17 AM Morgenthaler
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* {{Parodied| Trope}} in ''TheTick''. The US military made a sentient mustache because "The Russians were working on a ''beard''!"
* Parodied on ''TheSimpsons,'' where Itchy and Scratchy draw progressively bigger weapons on each other and finally end up with enormous pistols that wrap around the globe.

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* {{Parodied| Trope}} in ''TheTick''.''WesternAnimation/TheTick''. The US military made a sentient mustache because "The Russians were working on a ''beard''!"
* Parodied on ''TheSimpsons,'' ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons,'' where Itchy and Scratchy draw progressively bigger weapons on each other and finally end up with enormous pistols that wrap around the globe.
12th Jun '16 10:26:44 AM WillKeaton
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* At the opening of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the Royal Navy and the US Navy was still deploying ''biplanes''.[[note]] in a famous instance, very effectively because they were so ''slow'' they could not be targeted accurately by a battleship's flak batteries[[/note]]. By the end of the war, the Nazis were fielding ''[[CoolPlane jet fighter planes]]'' and ''ballistic missiles'' (the Royal Air Force also had jet fighters, but neither side's jets ever fought the other's). It ended with the United States {{Curb Stomp| Battle}}ing with two ''[[NukeEm atomic bombs]].''
** Similar tactics were seen in localized areas - for example, the Russians built the T-34 to stop the Panzer, so the Germans built the [[TankGoodness Panther and Tiger tanks]] to beat it. The British had already developed night carrier techniques (no one else bothered, which the USN was very thankful for at Pearl Harbor), and once it all kicked off, everyone else scrambled to do the same. When they realized that the Brits fitted armored decks to their aircraft carriers (which made the usual reaction to a Kamikaze attack: "sweepers, man your brooms"), the Japanese built the MXY7 ''Ohka'', essentially a manned cruise missile, to stop them. When it became apparrent that Tiger and Bengal Tiger tanks vastly outclasses Shermans, the USA simply built lots more Shermans and ZergRush-ed them.

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* At the opening of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the Royal Navy and the US Navy was still deploying ''biplanes''.[[note]] in [[note]]In a famous instance, very effectively because they were so ''slow'' they could not be targeted accurately by a battleship's flak batteries[[/note]]. batteries.[[/note]] By the end of the war, the Nazis were fielding ''[[CoolPlane jet fighter planes]]'' and ''ballistic missiles'' (the Royal Air Force also had jet fighters, but neither side's jets ever fought the other's). It ended with the United States {{Curb Stomp| Battle}}ing with two ''[[NukeEm atomic bombs]].''
** Similar tactics were seen in localized areas - for example, the Russians built the T-34 to stop the Panzer, so the Germans built the [[TankGoodness Panther and Tiger tanks]] to beat it. The British had already developed night carrier techniques (no one else bothered, which the USN was very thankful for at Pearl Harbor), and once it all kicked off, everyone else scrambled to do the same. When they realized that the Brits fitted armored decks to their aircraft carriers (which made the usual reaction to a Kamikaze attack: "sweepers, man your brooms"), the Japanese built the MXY7 [=MXY7=] ''Ohka'', essentially a manned cruise missile, to stop them. When it became apparrent that Tiger and Bengal Tiger tanks vastly outclasses Shermans, the USA simply built lots more Shermans and ZergRush-ed them.



** The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_beams Battle of the Beams]]. The Germans invented ever more complex systems of radio guidance for their bombers, only to have the British deploy even more complex counter-measures.

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** The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_beams Battle of the Beams]]. Beams.]] The Germans invented ever more complex systems of radio guidance for their bombers, only to have the British deploy even more complex counter-measures.



* In the automotive world, look no further than [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can-Am The Canadian-American Challenge Cup, or Can-Am for short]]. An odd racing series, Can-Am had very few restrictions for cars: if it had an engine and was covered in an enclosed body, it was approved. Soon, companies started to make their cars more and more powerful, leading to races that went to absolutely ''absurd'' heights--by the end of the series, Can-Am cars were going UpToEleven [[SerialEscalation at each successive race]] having crazy amounts of technology, from fans to increased downforce to six-wheeled cars, and regularly having more than ''900'' horsepower. Sadly, the series only lasted about a single decade, because the cars were getting too expensive to make and Porsche was kicking everyone else's asses with their '''''1500'''''-horsepower "[[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Turbopanzer"]] 917/30KL. Even so, it still was one of the most ridiculous and over-the-top racing series ever.

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* In the automotive world, look no further than [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can-Am The Canadian-American Challenge Cup, or Can-Am for short]]. short.]] An odd racing series, Can-Am had very few restrictions for cars: if it had an engine and was covered in an enclosed body, it was approved. Soon, companies started to make their cars more and more powerful, leading to races that went to absolutely ''absurd'' heights--by the end of the series, Can-Am cars were going UpToEleven [[SerialEscalation at each successive race]] having crazy amounts of technology, from fans to increased downforce to six-wheeled cars, and regularly having more than ''900'' horsepower. Sadly, the series only lasted about a single decade, because the cars were getting too expensive to make and Porsche was kicking everyone else's asses with their '''''1500'''''-horsepower "[[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Turbopanzer"]] 917/30KL. Even so, it still was one of the most ridiculous and over-the-top racing series ever.
12th Jun '16 10:25:57 AM WillKeaton
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*** though nowhere near as over-the-top as ''Lensman'' [[note]]Much of the "new" tech is actually existing tech being used in new ways; the realism of this is hotly debated.[[/note]], the series started out as a RecycledInSpace retelling of English and French naval battles of the Napoleonic Wars, and the technology advances mirror actual advances in naval warfare. Smooth-bore cannons to rifled guns (multi-drive missiles). Armor ("bow and stern walls" energy shielding) to aircraft and aircraft carriers ([=LACs=] and [=CLACs=]) to radio (faster-than-light comms) to guided missiles (project Ghost Rider). Submarines are creeping in with [[spoiler:the Mesans' new "stealth" spider drive, and their single-shot laser missile that behaves suspiciously like a homing torpedo.]]

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*** though nowhere near as over-the-top as ''Lensman'' ''Lensman,'' [[note]]Much of the "new" tech is actually existing tech being used in new ways; the realism of this is hotly debated.[[/note]], [[/note]] the series started out as a RecycledInSpace retelling of English and French naval battles of the Napoleonic Wars, and the technology advances mirror actual advances in naval warfare. Smooth-bore cannons to rifled guns (multi-drive missiles). Armor ("bow and stern walls" energy shielding) to aircraft and aircraft carriers ([=LACs=] and [=CLACs=]) to radio (faster-than-light comms) to guided missiles (project Ghost Rider). Submarines are creeping in with [[spoiler:the Mesans' new "stealth" spider drive, and their single-shot laser missile that behaves suspiciously like a homing torpedo.]]



* {{Parodied| Trope}} in ''TheTick''. The US military made a sentient mustache because "The Russians were working on a ''beard''!".

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* {{Parodied| Trope}} in ''TheTick''. The US military made a sentient mustache because "The Russians were working on a ''beard''!".''beard''!"
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